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Carnage
Sat, 04-29-2006, 09:34 AM
No, to me the render seems fine. Its just the text. Otherwise, thats great sig.

Alhuin
Sat, 04-29-2006, 10:53 AM
I agree with xDM: the render looks a little stretched. And the text, of course, needs work. Other than that, it looks nice; I like the render and the background. You know you can get new brushes off DeviantART.

Anyways, God#2.... you've produced quite a few sigs over the months; and, while they are good for beginners (minus the most recent one, which seems like you made it in 5 minutes), I think you should read up on tutorials and start trying different techniques. Start downloading some brushes and begin making more complex sigs. By no means am I demanding you do this, but you'll grow as an artist as you try different techniques.

Anyways, another new one. Kinda simple.... I think I need to work on the text...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Alhuin/Sigs/princeofpersia.jpg

NM
Sat, 04-29-2006, 11:22 AM
v2 of the sig (fixed render size and changed text):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/NarutoMaster/WisdomSorasigv2.jpg

The text probably needs to be fixed again but meh, I think its better than the last one I used. I haven't updated any of my brushes in like a year. Anyone have any recommended brushes I can get off DeviantArt? I'm thinking of deleting everything I have (some of mine are crappy) and starting fresh. The only ones I'll probably hold on to are my tech brushes.

@Al: That PoP sig is kickass! Love the background.

Board of Command
Sat, 04-29-2006, 03:45 PM
Any way to sharpen the render a bit? It's really awkward when the background is sharp and the the render is blurry. Try Unsharp Mask or High Pass.

xDarkMaster
Sat, 04-29-2006, 07:06 PM
Here is my latest sig, I think it needs some work. It just doesn't feel right for some reason. Any advice is appreciated.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8265/hitsu9qz.png

Kraco
Sat, 04-29-2006, 08:01 PM
The text has rough edges, and it could blend a bit better also otherwise with the bg. Parts of Toushirou also look quite pixelated, or overly sharp. However, other than that, I like especially the background a lot. The render is quite nice as well artistically. It could also be worth the try to see if a tiny amount of blue hue would make the render fit better together with the background, unless your original intention was to make it clearly stand out, in which case it's just fine.

Board of Command
Sat, 04-29-2006, 08:13 PM
Try the Photo Filter adjustment layer, it's a really neat tool. Also, the text color stands out way too much.

xDarkMaster
Sat, 04-29-2006, 08:58 PM
Thanks for the help guys. I see what you mean about over sharpening the render, that was fixed. I also tried to make the text and Toushirou stand out less. Here's what I came up with.

@BoC: A neat tool indeed, I'll have to play around with it more. Thanks for the tip.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6916/hitsu0gp.png

Board of Command
Sat, 04-29-2006, 09:05 PM
A LOT better now. Nice work. Now the only little problem is the bright outline on the sleeves, but I'm sure that can be fixed in 5 seconds.

master_me
Sat, 04-29-2006, 10:59 PM
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/mgfxn/harpsfxy.png
I took the background of something I never quite finished and made it into this. I was sort of messing around with 1px brushes as one can see, so it's sort of messy. But still, I learned a lot from this signature. Like, "sucks lol"

Board of Command
Sun, 04-30-2006, 01:23 AM
I think one problem is that the background isn't techy enough to go with all those tech brushes.

Lucifus
Sun, 04-30-2006, 02:06 AM
Well, been away from Gotwoot and sigs for awhile. Since I'm back, figured its time for a change, what do you guys think?

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4063/kotonasan2xr.jpg

Don't think its too bad, comments?

Kraco
Sun, 04-30-2006, 03:08 AM
Thanks for the help guys. I see what you mean about over sharpening the render, that was fixed. I also tried to make the text and Toushirou stand out less. Here's what I came up with.

It looks a lot better. Very good work.


Well, been away from Gotwoot and sigs for awhile. Since I'm back, figured its time for a change, what do you guys think?

I think it's very good. Very brave use of colours, to say the least, but also succesful. Something I certainly could never do... I don't actually have anything really concrete to suggest other than that it might be worth the while to try different hues for the "Nakama" text. I suppose my eyes stronly look for harmony, and since the current colour of the text isn't used elsewhere in the sig, I think it just might look better with some other colour or hue. It might, but you don't know before trying, really.

master_me
Sun, 04-30-2006, 10:55 AM
I think one problem is that the background isn't techy enough to go with all those tech brushes.

Quite; I realized that myself. So, I made this earlier this morning:
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/mgfxn/zellofxc.png
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/mgfxn/zellofx.gif

Lucifus
Sun, 04-30-2006, 12:47 PM
I think it's very good. Very brave use of colours, to say the least, but also succesful. Something I certainly could never do... I don't actually have anything really concrete to suggest other than that it might be worth the while to try different hues for the "Nakama" text. I suppose my eyes stronly look for harmony, and since the current colour of the text isn't used elsewhere in the sig, I think it just might look better with some other colour or hue. It might, but you don't know before trying, really.

Thanks, I was never really good with text, but I'll give it a shot. =D

EDIT: Also, can any of you guys tell me how to have selected sigs change by them selves?

EDIT 2: Which of the two do you guys prefer?

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3055/kotonasan027lg.jpg

IFHTT
Sun, 04-30-2006, 01:37 PM
EDIT: Also, can any of you guys tell me how to have selected sigs change by them selves?

www.randomimage.net

And I like the first one better. While the blue is sort of out of place so to speak it works well and is a lot easier to read. That sig look awesome too Lucifus, nice way to start back up.

Lucifus
Sun, 04-30-2006, 01:43 PM
www.randomimage.net

And I like the first one better. While the blue is sort of out of place so to speak it works well and is a lot easier to read. That sig look awesome too Lucifus, nice way to start back up.

:D , Thanks man, I also lost all my old sigs, so gotta make some new ones for that random image thing, =)

Kraco
Sun, 04-30-2006, 01:49 PM
I think the red looks better, as it doesn't look to be out of place colours wise, but TonTonHater has a point of the old blue being more easily readable. Of course it must be your choice in the end, but if some tweaking could get the red a bit easier to read, I would vote for it. Now I really can't say, because in my eyes the blue still clashes slightly.

Lucifus
Sun, 04-30-2006, 02:01 PM
Hmm, how about this?

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6866/kotonasan032rb.jpg

Kraco
Sun, 04-30-2006, 02:16 PM
Hmm... A tough question. A kind of liked how the red was almost the same as the fiery red of the hair. Whilst it's now easier to read, that's true, it's also less prominent. The lighter colour pushes the text towards the backgroud, and now the render is at the foreground more. Not counting the ease of reading, that's the difference between these two red shades. I don't know if you desired that.

Lucifus
Sun, 04-30-2006, 02:58 PM
Okay.....>.< Lolz, How about this?
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9980/kotonasan045ua.jpg

xDarkMaster
Sun, 04-30-2006, 03:12 PM
Here's my latest sig. It doesn't have any text but if someone could think of something that would be great. As always, any help is appreciated.

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7450/ur3en.png

Lucifus
Sun, 04-30-2006, 03:48 PM
@xDM, Looks really kool, as for teh text.....I'm lost, Maybe just xDM in the bottom left corner? =S At current I have teh same problem.:D

Just did this, Looks decent, you guys have any idea for the text?

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4069/awesome8xu.jpg

Kraco
Sun, 04-30-2006, 03:49 PM
Okay.....>.< Lolz, How about this?

Oh, yes. You should keep this one!

Lucifus
Sun, 04-30-2006, 03:51 PM
:D , Thanks, I'm liking it too, you were definatly right.:cool: Any thoughts on the above post?

xDarkMaster
Sun, 04-30-2006, 03:58 PM
@xDM, Looks really kool, as for teh text.....I'm lost, Maybe just xDM in the bottom left corner? =S At current I have teh same problem.:D

Well, if you look at the bottom right corner you will see a symbol I designed that is on all my recent sigs, blended in somewhere. As for the text, I want something cool that Urahara said.

Lucifus
Sun, 04-30-2006, 04:24 PM
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5934/awesome0dr.jpg

This is the end product.
Yep, i see ya xDM, I used to use a ying ying symbol in all my sigs but I stopped, I just put it in this one. Now off to make another for my sig rotation. :cool:

Lucifus
Sun, 04-30-2006, 04:59 PM
I dunno, but I'm just not feeling this one.

What do you guys think?

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2030/sos3qg.jpg

Edit: Opps, sorry for the double post....

Edit: Recreated a Gaara sig I made a while back.

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/959/gaara4qz.jpg

Alhuin
Sun, 04-30-2006, 07:23 PM
Pretty nice sigs Lucifus. The Gaara one would be better without the distortion over the render... 'cause that is one kick-ass render. As for your other ones, you seem to use the dotted pattern a lot. Try using different techniques or patterns to make the sigs look more complex. If you need help making a pattern (through Photoshop), I'm sure someone could help you.

And xDM... or master_me... whichever one was asking for good brushes to download... I recommend any MetalCX brushes... and CRCharisma. Otherwise, click "Browse" and change settings to Category: other>resources and Subcategory: Photoshop brushes. I'm sure you'll find some good ones.

Come to think of it, I need to update my brushes as well.

Oh, and sorry no new work to post. I'm currently working on two...

xDarkMaster
Sun, 04-30-2006, 07:38 PM
I didn't ask for brushes but I did check them out and CRCharisma does have some good ones but I couldn't find MetalCX.

Lucifus, I love that Gaara render but you need to make it look less...plain.

Anyone have any ideas for my Urahara sig?

Alhuin
Sun, 04-30-2006, 07:49 PM
xDM... sorry fr the misinformation, but the name is Metal-CX Anyways... for your Urahara sig, the biggest thing I can recommend is the size-space ratio. Meaning, for the size of the sig, you need to fill more space. Was the original render that size, or was it bigger? If it was bigger, I would try not making it as small... and croppin about 1/4 of the sig to make it be around 300x100 pix. Personally, I make mine 310x110 when possible (a trick I learned from Kage). The brushing doesn't seem to fit the sig either. I like the idea of a symbol in it... gives it originality and a "signature" look. Anyways, if the render was that size originally, then just try cropping some of the extra space, and re-brushing. Hopefully you saved a .psd copy. Oh, and try enchaning the image, using the image inhancing tutorial posted in the tutorial thread. Hope all this helps... sorry if it all seems negative. I really do like your work though... keep up the good work.

xDarkMaster
Sun, 04-30-2006, 09:24 PM
Thanks for the suggestions and don't worry about it seeming negative, I don't think I get enough criticism. :p I will try to make the render bigger as I prefer to leave the sig size as it is. The render was also already enhanced. I'll post an update later.

Also, orginally when I said suggestions, I ment what text I should put on it...

Edit: Alright, I made the render bigger and made a new BG, but personally I still like the first one.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7559/u26sx.png

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2618/u17ee.png

Lucifus
Sun, 04-30-2006, 09:25 PM
Heres my lastest addition to my rotations, Rotation done in one day =D, the sigs aren't bad either.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8093/eurekaseven4jm.jpg

Comments anyone?

Alhuin
Sun, 04-30-2006, 10:00 PM
xDM... sorry, I thought you meant suggestions in general. I can't really give advice on text 'cause I'm not that good at it myself. I've learned one tech, and that's about it. But anyways, the update looks better, especially since you made the image bigger. I have to disagree on the bg, I think the new background looks better than the old. But, it's your sig, go with what feels most comfortable. As for anything else, try some more brushing on a layer above the render... making some of the render covered by the brushing. You can then mess with colour balances and/or variations and give it a unique feel.

Alright, here's another new one for me. Yeah, the text tech is getting old now, but it just seems to fit everything I do. And I should probably find another way to have "sub-zero" placed... since you can't read half of it. But for right now, you know what it is.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Alhuin/Sigs/sub-zero.jpg

master_me
Mon, 05-01-2006, 05:42 AM
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/mgfxn/phant.png
I attempted a more techy background on this one; once I get Photoshop fixed, I'll probably be able to do a better job.

GhostKaGe
Mon, 05-01-2006, 08:10 AM
i really have no skill with photoshop but this is my attempt at a sig

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3739/untitled10hm.jpg

master_me
Mon, 05-01-2006, 02:28 PM
Aside from the trimming on your render (which isn't a huge deal,) that's pretty amazing for a start.

Phoenix20578
Mon, 05-01-2006, 02:58 PM
Thanks for the suggestions and don't worry about it seeming negative, I don't think I get enough criticism. :p I will try to make the render bigger as I prefer to leave the sig size as it is. The render was also already enhanced. I'll post an update later.

Also, orginally when I said suggestions, I ment what text I should put on it...

Edit: Alright, I made the render bigger and made a new BG, but personally I still like the first one.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7559/u26sx.png

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2618/u17ee.png

I like the bg for #2. The only thing is that the render doesnt seem to blend into it. You might want to try the image enhancment trick the Kage posted in the help thread.

xDarkMaster
Mon, 05-01-2006, 03:30 PM
By blend in, do you mean color, or sharpness, or something else? Also, like I already said, I already did enhance the image. I'm not sure if it is the way Kage does it though, I looked through the help thread and couldn't anything.

Phoenix20578
Mon, 05-01-2006, 03:56 PM
Mostly, I mean the darkness of the render. That light render stands out to much, imo.

Lucifus
Mon, 05-01-2006, 04:29 PM
@xDM, Light up the background man.:cool: Give her a glow. And smooth out that thing that looks like a leaf? o.0


Okay.....Instead of the sigs I have now, I'll make a sig for each of my Top animes in my Rotation.
My Zoro sigs played out, so I still need One Piece and Black Lagoon.
And I don't exactly like my Suzumiya Haruhi one......=S Anyway..,

Heres my new sigs:
1.) http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/5231/sos4lb.jpg
2.) http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/5900/fatestaynight1mt.jpg
3.) http://img316.imageshack.us/img316/6128/eurekaseven026sc.jpg
4.) Pending
5.) Pending

And liked how these turned out:

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7732/kotonasan043qi.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/8483/awesome7tw.jpg

All made in the last 24/7 =D

Comments?

Grapes
Mon, 05-01-2006, 04:45 PM
IMO, too much color, too much contrast in most cases, and over-usage of glow

xDarkMaster
Mon, 05-01-2006, 04:48 PM
New guy, huh? Welcome to the forums.

Anyways, here is the end result of my Urahara sig.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4757/u11zd.png

BTW, does anyone know how to make an adjustment layer apply to only one layer?

Grapes
Mon, 05-01-2006, 04:53 PM
New guy, huh? Welcome to the forums.

Not new, just another name. But thanks anyway ;P

Lucifus
Mon, 05-01-2006, 04:59 PM
@xDM, much better, giving Urahara a tint of the background was the way to go, but theres still something that doesn't feel right about it, don't ask me what =S

GhostKaGe
Mon, 05-01-2006, 05:36 PM
My first attempt

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3739/untitled10hm.jpg


My second attempt

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/4097/untitled11vf.jpg


i think my second attemp is much better than the first 1
anyone got any tips to improve it?

Grapes
Mon, 05-01-2006, 05:41 PM
I suggest you ditch the blue stroke, and try with another color, or no stroke at all.

The text is as simple as before, if that's how you want it, then it looks ok, but you could put some transparens on the text stroke if you feel like it, I don't think it would hurt

Background looks good

Lucifus
Mon, 05-01-2006, 05:46 PM
Give the render itself a very light outer glow tint of the background color, that should fade in nicely.

GhostKaGe
Mon, 05-01-2006, 06:02 PM
i was trying to get a Nen effect with the blue stroke but didn't come out as planed just gotta keep workin on it

thanks Lucifus i'll give that a try

Lucifus
Mon, 05-01-2006, 06:09 PM
Well, if ya want a Nen effect....Just give it a *light* blue outer glow, remove the stroke effect. :D

GhostKaGe
Mon, 05-01-2006, 06:30 PM
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2688/untitled16oa.jpg

Have i hit my alcohol limit or does this look much better?

Kraco
Mon, 05-01-2006, 06:39 PM
That one certainly has attitude. It could use a bit more ghastly colours and shades in the background, though.

Lucifus
Mon, 05-01-2006, 06:47 PM
That one definatly looks kool, Keep tring different stuff, ya get the hang of it pretty fast. The skeleton looks tight man.

Deadfire
Mon, 05-01-2006, 07:15 PM
Just to let everyone know I uploaded a whole crap load of Renders in to my account in the galleries about 45 in total

Link to my gallery (http://forums.gotwoot.net/gallery/browseimages.php?c=5&userid=9648)

Lucifus
Mon, 05-01-2006, 07:19 PM
Wow, those are excellent, Nice post man. :cool: I'ma try some of these out. Sweet renders.

EDIT: Which of the two do you guys prefer? I like my B but I'm leaning towards A.

A.)
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/5900/fatestaynight1mt.jpg

B.)
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5176/fsn4xz.jpg

IFHTT
Tue, 05-02-2006, 01:31 AM
I felt like making a new F/SN sig, since I can't really think of anything else to make at this time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/habighk/sig17.png
Comments/Suggestions?

Mr Squiggles
Tue, 05-02-2006, 01:51 AM
Is that sakura dying or are my eyes fooling me from wishfull thinking?

Either way its pretty good, I like the contrast between blue and red.

dragonrage
Tue, 05-02-2006, 01:54 AM
I felt like making a new F/SN sig, since I can't really think of anything else to make at this time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/habighk/sig17.png
Comments/Suggestions?


nice new sig TonTon.... and no its rider from Fate/stay night. The background doesn't go with the render, thats just my opinion ofcourse.

GhostKaGe
Tue, 05-02-2006, 08:48 AM
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2688/untitled16oa.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4623/kagesig1eu.jpg

http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/9746/kagesig35bo.jpg

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/2808/kagesig29tp.jpg

I like the last one best ...gotta admit im having fun playing with photoshop

Kraco
Tue, 05-02-2006, 09:14 AM
The last one is actully pretty wicked, I agree. The colour of the bg is cold enough to reflect the nature of the Reaper. The empty upper left corner and how a couple of the thorns pointing there seem to be cut short are the only things that catch my attention. But good work, altogether..

Lucifus
Tue, 05-02-2006, 12:45 PM
I really like the one with the red background, but I agree with your current one. Nice work man, Keep it up.:cool:

Deadfire
Tue, 05-02-2006, 04:04 PM
Well I'm trying my hand at it again although it looks nice I still need some work on the fact it looks pixalated in some places

http://forums.gotwoot.net/gallery/files/9/6/4/8/saber_sig1_771829.jpg

Thanks in advance of any help

Lucifus
Tue, 05-02-2006, 04:09 PM
Looks very kool, my suggestion is to use the smudge tool to smooth out the edges of the sword. And if ya wanna, give Saber more vivid colors, but that might not work well with the background. Either way, very nice sig man.

Deadfire
Tue, 05-02-2006, 05:11 PM
Thanks for your input, I got another one for you guys to rate and comment about

http://forums.gotwoot.net/gallery/files/9/6/4/8/rin_sig_980080.jpg

I'll see about that saber sig

Lucifus
Tue, 05-02-2006, 05:28 PM
Tohsaka Rin with a gun..........Very kool!:cool: Very nice sig:D

GhostKaGe
Tue, 05-02-2006, 05:39 PM
very nice sig Deadfire

dragonrage
Tue, 05-02-2006, 05:43 PM
well as they all have said very nice work deadfire..... and if you work out the kinks in the saber sig. That will be very impressive. nice job.

Lucifus
Tue, 05-02-2006, 06:29 PM
What do you guys think of this one? Just did it.
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/3446/saber016hq.jpg

Zinobi
Wed, 05-03-2006, 01:07 AM
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2121/ichigosigcopy1xn.jpg
frankly i dont like it...couldnt get it the way i wanted :'(

edit: i continued with it and got
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3185/ichigosigcopy2lx.jpg

and DF whats the brush set for that sig?

Deadfire
Wed, 05-03-2006, 01:58 PM
What do you guys think of this one? Just did it.

Very cool, I like your style with your sigs. It looks like you have the same problem as I do with the pixalated part of the render.

@Zinobi That sig looks very good, the bluring is a very nice touch. My brushes are my secret :p

Lucifus
Wed, 05-03-2006, 02:36 PM
Not my best work......too bored to do any more..
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2797/blacklagoon9uh.jpg

Edit: Heres another
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3554/hentai9gc.jpg

Zinobi
Wed, 05-03-2006, 09:15 PM
nice job Lucifus good to see you back...ashame ive never watched that anime >_<

re did the text alittle
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6903/ichigosig2copy7lf.jpg

just made this
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1690/kadajsigcopy9iv.jpg

Lucifus
Wed, 05-03-2006, 09:29 PM
The Ichigo ones alot better, good job on the text.:cool:

Edit: Is it just me.....or does sigs look like crap on regular monitors..........At school, and both my avatar and all my sigs look pixelated.......T-T

Kraco
Thu, 05-04-2006, 03:57 PM
Edit: Heres another

This is a neat picture. Good work.

Knives122
Thu, 05-04-2006, 04:31 PM
I think I'm done with it(besides adding a border) , but I may do something with the text. I made two versions tell me which one is better.

Ps: this sig is brought to you by Deadfires pic......which I stole :p

ver. 1:
http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/3681/sancturary0fs.jpg

ver 2:
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1364/redemption7km.jpg

Lucifus
Thu, 05-04-2006, 04:44 PM
Very unique style, I like it but, to me, its a bit weird.
I like the second one better.

Try it with a darker more vivid render and the first ones text. Thats just my opinion though.:cool:

Nice job man.

Lucifus
Thu, 05-04-2006, 05:43 PM
Just did this, havn't added text or anything yet. Planning on putting Gotwoot.net on the right in the blue area, and in the mid of the sig the text covering up the pixelated white bands.:cool: Comments?

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7879/smooth2lg.jpg

Edit:.......sorry for double post.....I've got to check who posted last...I've done this like 5 times in the last 3 days..

Kraco
Thu, 05-04-2006, 06:03 PM
It looks really good. I like the background a lot. It's quite a nice change from the typical abstract backgrounds. However, I'm not too sure about the colour change on the right. And somehow the blurry green thing on the upper left corner bother my eyes. Perhaps because it's bright green when everything else is either blue or calm red/pink in the face. Very nice work, though, altogether. Add some text and post it anew.

Lucifus
Thu, 05-04-2006, 06:09 PM
Always excellent feedback man.:cool: I'll get right on it, I'll try tinting the green thingy to a light vivid blue.

Man...I *suck* with text... I'm no feeling it...
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2980/gwsurvior9cx.jpg

GLS
Thu, 05-04-2006, 09:35 PM
@Lucifus - That Levi sig pwns! And your current sig is decent, and the fonts aren't too bad, it's just that there's so much stuff going on in the background. If you could give your Survivor text that "Saiyan" glow, it'd look cool.

Here's my latest effort:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/gaaralovessand/majorsig.jpg

Lucifus
Thu, 05-04-2006, 11:44 PM
Hers the end product.......=S
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/462/gotwootsurvivor4ee.jpg

heero
Fri, 05-05-2006, 12:52 AM
Here's my lastest work. Comments/advice appreciated. As you can see, there's no text. I need some help on it. Don't know how to make it look good...and duno where to put it. Arg..text is like the hardest thing for me. Would be nice if someone can give me a site with good fonts. :)

(Contain Bleach Spoilers For Non-Manga Readers)
Ver 1.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/heeroyuri/Ichigo.jpg

Ver 2.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/heeroyuri/Ichigo2.jpg

Thi3f
Fri, 05-05-2006, 03:24 AM
....................

heero
Fri, 05-05-2006, 03:39 AM
alright I'll try to fix the white spots... Its kinda hard to clear them all out. took me quite a while.

PSJ
Fri, 05-05-2006, 04:46 PM
New work:

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/907/stitchnr1copy5hd.png
I think i'm gonna use this as my current, you can't deny the coolness of it.

Lucifus
Fri, 05-05-2006, 04:50 PM
Haha, Stitch, Excellent. Very kool.

Excellent use of colors.

dragonrage
Fri, 05-05-2006, 05:47 PM
New work:

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/907/stitchnr1copy5hd.png
I think i'm gonna use this as my current, you can't deny the coolness of it.

Nice PSJ, great sig as usual. But i think it might be alittle to bright or it could be my eyes are fucking with me again. Anyway great job as always.

PSJ
Fri, 05-05-2006, 06:13 PM
I like it bright, couldn't have it much darker.

Lucifus
Fri, 05-05-2006, 10:54 PM
Just did this out of dire boredom....Wheres F/ SN 18.........:(

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9800/blacklagoon010ss.jpg

Anyway, comments anyone?

Zinobi
Sat, 05-06-2006, 01:30 AM
Nice it blends nicely. But the smaller render looks distorted. I really like your style.
my latest:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4724/conkersigcopy2li.jpg

PSJ
Sat, 05-06-2006, 08:09 AM
There's to much going on in that sig Lucifus. The render in itself is pretty bad, i know you wanted to do something with that character but my advice is find good quality renders that you like disregarding certain shows etc. You will get much better results from better renders, and check out how to use brushes., Kage got a tutorial in the tutorial section.

Lucifus
Sat, 05-06-2006, 11:24 AM
Yep..Believe it or not, thats one of the best renders I could get of Levi..........

I want a sig of Levi. T-T But yea....I should stick to higher quality renders....

Board of Command
Sat, 05-06-2006, 03:35 PM
We're the first team to have a team sig and unique avatars. +1 already.

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/5079/ths6cl.png

Lucifus
Sat, 05-06-2006, 04:32 PM
HA ha haha ha, bow before The Purple Sharkcoon.

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/5108/sharkcoon8ts.jpg

Board of Command
Sat, 05-06-2006, 04:36 PM
HA ha haha ha, bow before The Purple Sharkcoon.

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/5108/sharkcoon8ts.jpg
If humor was your intention, mission accomplished :D :eek:

PSJ
Sun, 05-07-2006, 03:59 AM
LOOL that sig is amazing Lucifus.

xDarkMaster
Sun, 05-07-2006, 08:32 AM
@Lucifus: LOL, I love the trashcan in the BG.

Lucifus
Sun, 05-07-2006, 12:50 PM
ROFL, I was laughing s ohard when I came up with teh idea. xD Priceless.:cool:

PSJ
Sun, 05-07-2006, 02:13 PM
Newest work:
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/8507/crusadersigcopy8jw.png

Lucifus
Sun, 05-07-2006, 02:16 PM
No idea what it is, but very kool none the less. The darkness in the top left seems out of place, but still excellent work dude. :cool:

PSJ
Sun, 05-07-2006, 02:23 PM
It's a knight, a crusader or something i think, good that you pointed that darkness on the top left out, didn't notice that think i'll go back and fix that.

Zinobi
Sun, 05-07-2006, 07:59 PM
my latest:
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1297/voltronsigcopy1xi.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3303/kenshinsigcopy9za.jpg
yay or nay?

Knives122
Sun, 05-07-2006, 08:10 PM
HA ha haha ha, bow before The Purple Sharkcoon.

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/5108/sharkcoon8ts.jpg

where the hell is the Barracuda?

xDarkMaster
Sun, 05-07-2006, 08:47 PM
@Zinobi: Too much red! BG also looks kinda dull.

Board of Command
Sun, 05-07-2006, 08:51 PM
Especially the Voltron one. At least erase some of the stuff covering the Voltron.

cugginenter
Mon, 05-08-2006, 04:51 PM
Great sigs guys, I really liked the Kenshin one, though the background is a bit dull.

Narasho
Mon, 05-08-2006, 05:13 PM
I'm really impressed with your guy's sigs. That Ichigo one is my favorite. Keep up the good work.

Kraco
Mon, 05-08-2006, 06:45 PM
yay or nay?

The Kenshin one is actually quite interesting, now that I think of it more. At first I thought the blood red background would be unsuitable, because Kenshin isn't like that now. But then I realised what you probably had planned all along, along with the text and the dim image in the background: That's his past. And in the actual render he looks resolute but not proud (of what his past is). Aye, it's actually a very good composition, even if it takes some thinking.

Purely technically cugginenter might be right, though. The background could perhaps use something of more contrast and more clear shapes. I say could, because in a certain sense since it refers to his past it should be cloudy and dim. But you never know before you try (unless you already did, heh).

Good work, altogether.

Deadfire
Mon, 05-08-2006, 10:19 PM
I got very bored today waitting to go to work and made this

http://forums.gotwoot.net/gallery/files/9/6/4/8/saber_sig2_967277.jpg

and thanks to Phoneix I have a lens flare effect on one of my previous ones

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/2226/untitled13wi.jpg

xDarkMaster
Mon, 05-08-2006, 10:21 PM
Deadfire, that first one kicks ass! Keep up the work man.

Lucifus
Mon, 05-08-2006, 10:22 PM
Really like the new one, Very good use of vivid colors, the background and render goes almost perfect with each other. Only think I'd think about changing is the text color and a border.

That is an excellent sig.:cool:

Kraco
Tue, 05-09-2006, 02:45 AM
and thanks to Phoneix I have a lens flare effect on one of my previous ones

Using any means available to hide the pixelated parts of the blade, lol? :D

Seriously, though, I'm not sure if it's better because of that. The picture altogether isn't very bright, so a really bright spot on the blade (causing such a flare) might not be fitting. But not counting that it does look quite nice.

The new one is quite neat. The shading of the background fits nicely the shading of the render with the blueish hue, and the ruggedness reflects Saber's battle worn outfit likewise. Good work.

Board of Command
Tue, 05-09-2006, 08:54 PM
I got very bored today waitting to go to work and made this

http://forums.gotwoot.net/gallery/files/9/6/4/8/saber_sig2_967277.jpg

Crop off some of the empty space on the left. Looks good.

Narasho
Tue, 05-09-2006, 09:52 PM
That is really well made. Makes me want to watch the series.

master_me
Wed, 05-10-2006, 06:03 AM
It really is, DF. I can't get over the lighting~

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/mgfxn/bluestest.png
This one was me testing four components, (the blurring on Blues, shiny text, shiny border, and background) and I think I'll be using a few of the methods again.

dragonrage
Wed, 05-10-2006, 07:03 AM
I got very bored today waitting to go to work and made this

http://forums.gotwoot.net/gallery/files/9/6/4/8/saber_sig2_967277.jpg

and thanks to Phoneix I have a lens flare effect on one of my previous ones

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/2226/untitled13wi.jpg

The new sig looks awsome, very very nice. It blends quite perfectly with the background and you know how i feel about Saber. The DF in the right upper corner, use another font man, its no good. Also add a little text here and there to fill in the gaps. I think it would make it so much better. Nothing much maybe just her name, Saber or Arthuria would be fine.

Hemm your older sig, i don't think that its much of a difference but, as Kraco said you are using any means necessary to cover up that pixelation of the sword, it doesn't really help, but keep on trying its too good of a render to pass up. I have been reading up on photoshop myself (trying to increase my already limited intelligence, you know i don't know anything), and i came across something that might help.

Go to Image > image size > resolution. [ increase the resolution]

play around with it as see what happens. I think that should work quite nicely.

also be warned i am stealing your renders, they will show up in my sigs soon, well not that soon i hope. I still have the Gotwoot Survivor thingy to compete in. Anyway i hope that helps. Good luck man. I told you Saber >>>>>>>>>> Rin. hehehehe

Lucifus
Wed, 05-10-2006, 07:33 AM
DF's sig has inspired me to do another sig.......I'ma use the render you provided Dragonrage, the outcomes gotta be sweet no matter what with that render. :rolleyes:

dragonrage
Wed, 05-10-2006, 07:43 AM
lol, glad to help. Have fun, can't wait to see what you come up with.

Deadfire
Wed, 05-10-2006, 08:03 AM
Thanks alot guys it really helps to get all the comments I can get (What is this only my 5th or 6th sig?)

So comments about this
http://forums.gotwoot.net/gallery/files/9/6/4/8/saber_sig2_967277.jpg


Change the text font
Chop off some of the empty space on the left.
Some more text on the left if I don't chop it off


Alright, I'll get on this when I have a chance. As well DR don't worry about using my renders, they are there for everyone's use. I added them because of the lack of free renders for people to use (Yes I got myself a pay account for renders) If people need renders use that thread I made.

Lucifus
Wed, 05-10-2006, 08:09 AM
Your a saint if I do say so myself, Those are some excellent renders you've uploaded as well. Once GW Survivor Event #1s finished, I'll go on a sig frenzy again.

I'm Also taking exams till Tuesday next week. Then I'm free.:D

dragonrage
Wed, 05-10-2006, 08:11 AM
Actually i like the fact that her skirt is floating on the left. I see no problem with it and the little sparks are very nice. Text is the only thing i think you need to work on.

Well now don't i feel stupid i have only made 5 sigs myself well 6 if you want to be technical. I have learned much and much yet to learn.

Lucifus
Wed, 05-10-2006, 08:14 AM
I've made a whole lot of sigs, but most were crap when I was getting used to photoshop, and I really think ya should keep the left, I see no reason to cut it off, it looks really kool.

The only thing I think you should change the the color and font of the text. At current it looks like a very dull DJ.:D

Narasho
Wed, 05-10-2006, 11:24 AM
As you guys continue to post amazing sigs, I realize that I cannot keep giving you positive rep due to the restrictions :p

Lucifus
Wed, 05-10-2006, 02:56 PM
Just did this, what do you all think? Gonna go do another.:rolleyes:
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/8183/tohsakarin6oo.jpg

Edit: I'll do it later...I'm tired, barly got any sleep last night...Nappy time:)

Kraco
Wed, 05-10-2006, 03:58 PM
I like it. It's very nice artistically and has a consistent colour scheme (and balance). Also, it doesn't have any places feeling empty, yet neither places feeling too cramped. Proportions look good as well. The "stay night" text is somewhat blurry, but otherwise I have nothing at all to criticize. Good work.

Thi3f
Wed, 05-10-2006, 04:24 PM
....................

Lucifus
Wed, 05-10-2006, 05:13 PM
Okay, heres what I came up with, what do you guys think, First or second?:)

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3287/fsntohsakarin6na.jpg

dragonrage
Wed, 05-10-2006, 06:05 PM
The first one was better, the logo doesn't have to be bigger just more visible. In this one it is over powering the sig. and somewhat competing for attention with the render. Other than that its a great sig. Nice new style and it is a welcomed edition for the fate/ stay night fans.

Lucifus
Wed, 05-10-2006, 06:42 PM
Thanks for the comments DR, and I totally see your point, I'll get to work on it =)

In the meantime, just did that at the request of Woofcat, what do you all think?

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9577/woofcatavatar5eg.jpg

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/862/woofcatsignature9la.jpg

EDIT: Heres the outcome, this one work?

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9717/tohsakarinfsnfinal014fy.jpg

EDIT: Wow, somethings wrong with me...once I start making sigs I can't stop till I'm dead tired....=S Anyway, heres another one, I'm not sure about this one, comments on this one as well?:p

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/606/ilyafsn018km.jpg

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Wed, 05-10-2006, 10:28 PM
Yeeeah check the Alphonse ava and the Halo 3 sig...prooooooooooooo

Lucifus
Wed, 05-10-2006, 10:36 PM
And heres another......I've made too many sigs today and my judgements off, I'm not sure if they're good or bad. So, heres a sig of Lancer, I'll probably find a better render and do another sig of him.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2559/lancerfsn014re.jpg

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Wed, 05-10-2006, 10:42 PM
Well my first tip would be to start reading some more moderate tutorials. Not noob, but not quite intermediate yet either. Really any kind of tut would be fine, anything that helps you develop a sight for color flow, brightness, contrast, and saturation balance.

So yea blue and white dude with deeeep red and bright yellow border and text just naturally does not look good.

since this is a new page and my last post kinda got cut...

check the Alphonse avatar and the halo 3 sig heeeell yea thats badass.

check out all my best sigs here http://kage.mysigs.com/

Kraco
Thu, 05-11-2006, 03:25 AM
Yeah. Your latest one, Lucifus, has really clashing colours like Kage pointed out. However, I'm amazed how you can just keep making nice sig images with such speed and quantities. It's like you had a sig factory in your garage...

The Rin sig got a lot nicer. And even if I risk offending you, but the fact you dropped the ying yang is a big plus, as well. The text "Lucifus" could perhaps be a bit lower, closer to the corner than the "stay night" text. My gut feeling tells me it might look better that way.

Lucifus
Thu, 05-11-2006, 09:28 AM
@Kraco

Yep, I suddenly realized that the Ying Yang symbol really screws over my sigs......=S

And now that you say it, blending my name like I blended stay night would look awesome, as soon as I get home, I'll try that. At the Lancer sig, yep, I realized I probably messed it up, but I was truly tired, I did it as quickly as possibly, and the render I made wasn' that impressive either.

Again once I get home, I'm definatly gonna try another Lancer sig. Any comments on the Ilya sig? I think I need a better render for it.........:rolleyes:


Oh and ya, what do you guys think of the sig I did for Woofcat? I had a really awesome background but I added too many renders and covered it up T-T..........

@Kagemane

Yep, your totally right on the Lancer sig, yesterday when I was making it, I couldn't read the text on the wall 12 feet away from me that I could usually read with ease. I'm going to try another Lancer sig. Thanks for the advice.:D

Board of Command
Thu, 05-11-2006, 02:31 PM
Lucifus, you need to work with higher quality pictures. It's very appparent on your Ilya sig - you can clearly see the artifacts. Either conceal them by blurring or whatnot, or find better stocks to use.

PS: and the fact that your files are all around 10 KB means you're saving them in low quality JPEG. This creates artifacts even if you use good stocks to begin with.

Lucifus
Thu, 05-11-2006, 10:41 PM
Only one sig today, :( man I'm tired, just got up after my beauty nap and have to go to sleep again. Just did this....what do you all think? Man I love Levi......

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2691/leviblacklagoon5wx.jpg

Board of Command
Thu, 05-11-2006, 10:47 PM
89 KB, good job. See, no more nasty artifacts :)

Lucifus
Thu, 05-11-2006, 10:50 PM
Lol, Thanks dude, I knew there was something I was forgetting to do since I came back....

I've been coping all my sigs to paint and saving them as JPGs in there...:o Lol, I forgot that I could keep decent quality when using Photoshop.......:rolleyes:

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Thu, 05-11-2006, 11:17 PM
Lol when you save sigs as jpegs in PS all you have to do is make the quality less kbs. Before it finishes saving that little window pops up with a whole piss load of ways to edit the quality.

PSJ
Fri, 05-12-2006, 05:21 PM
Been a while since i posted in here so here comes my newest work. It's an abstract as you can see (hopefully)

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1672/abstractcopy2ad.png

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Fri, 05-12-2006, 07:53 PM
Well theres a couple things I think you could fix to make the sig better.

Focal point (the render) needs to stand out more so theres something for the eye to focus on. Do this by sharpening the render, and making more contrast between the bg and the render (not to be confused with the contrast adjustment).

Change the text as well.

PSJ
Sat, 05-13-2006, 05:18 AM
Yea, i see what you mean. I'll try to fix that.

EDIT:

Alright fixed the abstract, i think it looks much better so what do you guys think?

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3117/abstractcopynr24ic.png

EDIT2:

Here's the old version just so you can see the changes.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1672/abstractcopy2ad.png

Lucifus
Sat, 05-13-2006, 12:30 PM
I have never done a abstract, so I don't know how hard it is to do one, but it looks likes really complicated. Looks uh..very unique and kool, but needless to say, very pixelated.

But, I'll assume that this is infact a pretty kool abstract:rolleyes: NIcely done man.

PSJ
Sat, 05-13-2006, 12:36 PM
Hmm doesn't look to pixelated on my screen... It's basicly mostly brushing and an abstract render, some lighting and stuff, basicly the same process as a normal sig, but i am in no way very good at this, i've seen guys do loads better than this. But yea you need to try diffrent things to improve.

Lucifus
Sat, 05-13-2006, 12:41 PM
Really? Then its prolly just the monitor I'm using, at a library. Now then I look at it, all the sigs look pixelated.:rolleyes: I'll take another look at her when I get home.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Sat, 05-13-2006, 01:25 PM
Doesnt look pixelated but it does look weird, like its blurry and messy kinda looking. Lighting needs direction and it needs to compliment the focal point.

heres an old abstract of mine

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/RockLee89/AbstractPwned.jpg

PSJ
Sat, 05-13-2006, 01:44 PM
Yea there's something about it that i really can't put my finger on but it does look a bit blurry and messy. About the lighting well that has never been my strong point, i'll try to work that out.

dragonrage
Sat, 05-13-2006, 05:16 PM
@ PSJ.... The abstract sig looks alright, i think that the face that there are random spot of color in the sigs makes it strange. With there being a darkish gray backround and color spots all over the sig makes it look kinda messy.

@ Kage.... Nice new Halo sig, its blended quite nice. These intermediate tut you talked about , where can i find them?

xDarkMaster
Sat, 05-13-2006, 05:18 PM
As some of you might have been able to judge based on my title and sig, I'm psyched for Halo 3. That being said, this is my first sig in awhile. At this point I'm unsure whether or not I should add some text. As always, any help is appreciated.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5489/3copy6ap.png

Board of Command
Sat, 05-13-2006, 06:00 PM
I just stumbled across this render and couldn't resist making a sig out of it. I can't think of anywhere else to put the text (blending, etc) so I just stuck it in the corner. Although I think it looks fine, some of you would probably disagree.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6376/emeraldafanart11ix.jpg

Screw it, here's version 2:
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7426/emeraldafanart28hg.jpg

Sigh...version 3. Hair is more transparent like my other Emeralda sig, and font is changed. Man, this thing is hard to get right.
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3453/emeraldafanart30lq.jpg

dragonrage
Sat, 05-13-2006, 06:36 PM
Nice BoC, very nice. I like version 2 more, the BoC on the collar was a nice touch. The only thing i can see that can be improve is the font but that is not necessary, its awsome as is.

PSJ
Sat, 05-13-2006, 09:00 PM
Whipped something together for another forum.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2308/martinsweet8bq.png

Lucifus
Sat, 05-13-2006, 09:11 PM
Now thats f*cking sweet. Nice job.

@ BoC, that sig also pawns, and yea, I think version 3 owns man. Same to PSJ's sig.

I can't really find anything wrong with either sig, Nicely done to both of ya.:cool:

xDarkMaster
Sat, 05-13-2006, 10:08 PM
I changed the BG on my Halo 3 sig abit, I like it more this way.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2338/321dd.png

Here's a version without the white brushing.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/4522/322copy1rp.png

Seeing as how nobody had anything to say about it, I take it it's perfect? :p

Lucifus
Sat, 05-13-2006, 10:14 PM
Like the second version xDm, but, I think ya should add some text, like in the top left corner. I myself can't wait for Halo 3. Halo 2 for that matter, Only played Combat Evolved, don't have an Xbox:rolleyes:

Alhuin
Sat, 05-13-2006, 10:39 PM
Haven't really made a new sig recently... but I have done a couple photo-manips. They're too big to post here, but you can look at them on my deviantART site (link below). I'd appreciate some comments, as photo-manipping isn't something I regularly do... and therefore know that they can be done better. Of course... I still do have some sigs in the making... they're just on hold right now.

Lucifus
Sat, 05-13-2006, 10:45 PM
Theres a ton of stuff there, I don't knwo what a photomanip is so I can't comment..=S

But all the stuff their, have all been excellently done. Don't know you, but you've gotta be good with Photoshop. And that Tsubasa Chronicle sig is f*ckign sweet man.

master_me
Sun, 05-14-2006, 01:32 AM
I agree 100% with Lucifus on the TC one. By the way, Lucifus, photo manip is in short manipulating a photo. For a really awesome example, see KaGe's photo manip sig tut(s).

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/mgfxn/shodaime.png
I've finally come close to mastering not using brushes, and I feel good about it too :D

Board of Command
Sun, 05-14-2006, 10:02 AM
master_me, I think you should work on the blending between background and the guy's shoulder. The transition is very abrupt. I can see that his arm is down there so you have to keep that, but maybe you can blend in the upper part a bit.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Sun, 05-14-2006, 11:23 AM
@ Kage.... Nice new Halo sig, its blended quite nice. These intermediate tut you talked about , where can i find them?

Well I think one or two of the ones I posted in the Tutorial section here could be considered intermediate. Also try looking through the tutorial sections on these sites:

www.nsl.com
www.GFXHaven.com = my home :P
www.Climb-X.com
www.NationalSigLeague.com



http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3453/emeraldafanart30lq.jpg

I don't think those kind of brushes look right with a soft anime render. Not feeling the BOC text either. Also try using color balance and more adjustments then just hue/saturation. Not a bad sig at all though.


Whipped something together for another forum.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2308/martinsweet8bq.png

Well the first thing I notice is the highly contrasted areas where theres no color left and its just intense red and bright yellow then turns to white. Those are nasty try to stay away from em. Sharpen up the render a bit too. And why haven't you posted this on GFXHaven :P? Theres tons of people ready to help :D

Also don't like big giant red hue'd c4d render. Takes up too much space as is just graphically ugly. Try using c4d on colordodge and make them less a part of your sig.



http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/4522/322copy1rp.png

Right now Master Chief isn't the main focus point of the sig for three reasons; he is too small, he's too blurry, and he's all the way in the corner. Try keeping your main renders towards the center of the sig to draw attention. Sharpen it up a bit too. Another problem I see with it is the flow of color, or lack there of. Take a very big colorful picture you like, put it over all the layers, and set it to overlay (might have to blur it so its not recognizable) then mess around with the opacity. Also use color balance layers and photo filters. It's all about the adjustments people.

Looking at this sig again I see the main purpose was just to show off the trailer pretty much. But yea that was still some good advice :P


I agree 100% with Lucifus on the TC one. By the way, Lucifus, photo manip is in short manipulating a photo. For a really awesome example, see KaGe's photo manip sig tut(s).

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/mgfxn/shodaime.png
I've finally come close to mastering not using brushes, and I feel good about it too :D

Well this sig is having contrast problems also, you boosted it up way too much. Text is nasty, try just setting a nice small text into the corner without a stroke or any crazy designs. Just use arial font. Render was blended nicely. Not liking those lines crossing through the sig though. Keep reading tutorials, and incorperate brushing and other skills together for better outcomes, it doesn't matter if you didn't brush or not if the sig looks pretty bad =/ so yea keep working.

YOU SHOULD DEFF TAKE THE TIME TO READ ALL OF THOSE IF YOU WANT TO GET BETTER!

and heres my new sig, probly my favorite everrrrrr

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/RockLee89/Halo3Saucay.jpg

DISCUSS XD

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Sun, 05-14-2006, 11:38 AM
bah double post...go back a page for the helpful goodness.

Alhuin
Sun, 05-14-2006, 11:41 AM
Glad to see you back Kage. Love the new Halo sig. No matter what I do, I never seem to be able to catch up to your greatness!

Anyways... as talked about earlier... here's a new sig.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Alhuin/Sigs/samus2.jpg

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Sun, 05-14-2006, 11:58 AM
Looks really nice, only thing I would change is the text, not liking the greyness.

Board of Command
Sun, 05-14-2006, 12:10 PM
I don't think those kind of brushes look right with a soft anime render. Not feeling the BOC text either. Also try using color balance and more adjustments then just hue/saturation. Not a bad sig at all though.

I am using color balance, not hue/saturation. I was just trying to somewhat match the color of the hair. I tried some blurring on the background brushing but it didn't look very good. Maybe I'll try some other stuff later.

xDarkMaster
Sun, 05-14-2006, 12:16 PM
Kage: Thanks a lot for the help and tips, I'll try to keep them in mind for future works. Anyways, this is what I came up with.

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7117/3242xd.png

Not sure if it got better or worse. :confused:

PSJ
Sun, 05-14-2006, 01:54 PM
Thanks for the comments Kage. I'll try to check back at GFXhaven soon.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Sun, 05-14-2006, 06:34 PM
Kage: Thanks a lot for the help and tips, I'll try to keep them in mind for future works. Anyways, this is what I came up with.

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7117/3242xd.png

Not sure if it got better or worse. :confused:

Damn where'd you get the idea to put those in your sig :P

xDarkMaster
Sun, 05-14-2006, 08:12 PM
The logo was already in the sig before, lower left corner. I just had the blending mode to soft light. So, technically you copied me (you also used the same render :p). Unless that's not what you mean, in which case, what do you mean?

master_me
Sun, 05-14-2006, 09:06 PM
Keep reading tutorials, and incorperate brushing and other skills together for better outcomes, it doesn't matter if you didn't brush or not if the sig looks pretty bad =/ so yea keep working.

Actually, it was made in Imageready (photoshop is broken >_>) so I was limited. No brushing, no color balance... but yeah, I should be able to do much better. Thanks for the comments.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/mgfxn/YOSHI.png
I particularly like this sig; it's a simple effect, with an even simpler background.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Sun, 05-14-2006, 10:25 PM
The logo was already in the sig before, lower left corner. I just had the blending mode to soft light. So, technically you copied me (you also used the same render :p). Unless that's not what you mean, in which case, what do you mean?

haha really I didn't even notice, don't I feel retarted.

samsonlonghair
Mon, 05-15-2006, 01:56 AM
Don't feel too bad, we're all retarded at times. It's good to see you back Kagemane.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Mon, 05-15-2006, 01:50 PM
Why thank you samson.

Thi3f
Tue, 05-16-2006, 09:12 AM
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Kraco
Tue, 05-16-2006, 09:27 AM
Heh. A funny idea. Although I immediately began to wonder what text you have placed there, or if it was just random letters, it took me some seconds to figure it out, before I spotted the one word right of his neck... Probably because I only stared at the darker letters, and on the left side they didn't tell me much.

Well, it's not certainly as fancy as the abstract backgrounds most commonly around, but it captured my attention for a while, alright. And actually it doesn't look bad, either. Except for that typo you mentioned...

Thi3f
Tue, 05-16-2006, 10:25 AM
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PSJ
Tue, 05-16-2006, 10:30 AM
Does the background say Strawberry in alot of diffrent languages? didn't even know Ichigo meant strawberry.

Thi3f
Tue, 05-16-2006, 10:44 AM
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Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Tue, 05-16-2006, 02:06 PM
Thanks man. Well, I've never been a fan of the uber detailed super backgrounds *cough* Kage *cough*. I like things simple, and clean. I'll fix the typo sometime... Until then, just imagine the E isn't there... :)

:'( 'post is too short'

Thi3f
Tue, 05-16-2006, 02:17 PM
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Board of Command
Tue, 05-16-2006, 03:34 PM
Simplicity is not a bad thing. I like that text background.

Alhuin
Tue, 05-16-2006, 04:29 PM
That's a very nice sig Thi3f. I personally like the text background as well. It's simple, and I love seeing strawberry in all the different languages. Though, not the style for me... keep up the good work.

Here's a simple one for me. Just a header for a profile. It didn't take me that long... maybe 10 minutes. But I like the way it looks...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Alhuin/alhuinheader.jpg

Zinobi
Tue, 05-16-2006, 11:08 PM
@Thi3f it looks good i like it
@Alhuin that looks good too
Note: I am a very blunt person when it comes to giving or receiving compliments.

Anyway Heres my latest:
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6408/reisigcopy6xn.jpg
I found this render just sitting around...so i used it

Board of Command
Tue, 05-16-2006, 11:16 PM
It doesn't blend well, Zinobi. The background is grungy/rough looking but the render is silky smooth. Background is pretty flat too, so try adjusting contrast or curves.

dragonrage
Wed, 05-17-2006, 12:12 AM
@Thi3f : nice, very nice. Yea simple does look good, especial since it is something different.

@Alhuim : looks good, for a header for a profile is awsome as a sig, its not bad, the water ripples are nice, but the background is a little scratchy and looks kinda bad up against the ripples. If you could get the letters to wave together with the ripples that would be awsome.

@zinobi : your sigs are getting better, maybe you could add a border and enhance the background alittle.

PSJ
Wed, 05-17-2006, 03:15 PM
New Work, i like this one alot but i think i'll keep Stitch as my current for a while longer.

This is the same picture i used on the big ass sig i made before but i put alot more work into this one, it's a photomanip.
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2830/martinsweetsignewcopy7lk.png

New work, yet another photomanip, ask if you want to see the original pic.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8493/photomanip1copy3jv.png

Alhuin
Thu, 05-18-2006, 03:08 PM
@Alhuim : looks good, for a header for a profile is awsome as a sig, its not bad, the water ripples are nice, but the background is a little scratchy and looks kinda bad up against the ripples. If you could get the letters to wave together with the ripples that would be awsome.


What do you mean "ripple effect". I used no such effect. All I did was take a c4d render, duplicate it, colour change on the second one then mess with blurs and opacity. Then, there's an outer glow on the text. I don't quite see what you mean by "ripple effect". Thanks for the criticism though.

EDIT: Also, the text is meant to be visible... not in a position where it's hard to read. It's just for the top of a profile so people can see my name.

Carnage
Thu, 05-18-2006, 05:52 PM
Ok. Its not that great, but I didnt want to do anything special with these. But I still want to know how I did. Im going to actually do more to the background and renders when I make my bleach sigs. So what do you think?

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9069/calamitysig9zm.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5629/raidersig9rn.jpg


http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/8841/forbiddensig1kg.jpg

dragonrage
Thu, 05-18-2006, 06:14 PM
What do you mean "ripple effect". I used no such effect. All I did was take a c4d render, duplicate it, colour change on the second one then mess with blurs and opacity. Then, there's an outer glow on the text. I don't quite see what you mean by "ripple effect". Thanks for the criticism though.

EDIT: Also, the text is meant to be visible... not in a position where it's hard to read. It's just for the top of a profile so people can see my name.


Look at the lower left hand side of you sig. There are ripples coming out of it, like some just dropped a pebble in water.

Zinobi
Thu, 05-18-2006, 06:42 PM
@god2 well the gundam renders look good but get rid of the thing behind that guy on the first one, they look fine though. but fix the pixelated text it just doesnt look good. enhance your background and good text placement except on the Raider one try to not have the underline and make the text part of the mace. also with the text try to blend it better with whatever its over (ie the background or mace)

Alhuin
Thu, 05-18-2006, 07:03 PM
Look at the lower left hand side of you sig. There are ripples coming out of it, like some just dropped a pebble in water.


Ahh.... I see what you mean now. Unfortunately, that wasn't intentional. That's actually the center of the c4d render... and it has a radial blur on it... which is how it has that effect. I actually think it looks good the way it is... so I'm not going to worry about messing with it anymore. I'll probably just do something similar to it soon for a sig for this forum (finally)...

Phoenix20578
Thu, 05-18-2006, 07:03 PM
Ok. Its not that great, but I didnt want to do anything special with these. But I still want to know how I did. Im going to actually do more to the background and renders when I make my bleach sigs. So what do you think?

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9069/calamitysig9zm.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5629/raidersig9rn.jpg


http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/8841/forbiddensig1kg.jpg

Those bgs and texts really suck...so much more effort could have been put into that...

dragonrage
Thu, 05-18-2006, 07:35 PM
i seconded, just didn't want to say anything until his bleach sigs came out. this seem to be just thrown together.

Carnage
Thu, 05-18-2006, 07:53 PM
Thx alot for the advice Zinobi, I'll be sure to take it in future sigs.

@Pheonix and drage: Ya, the bgs do suck, but I'm pretty sure Ill do much better on the bleach sigs.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Thu, 05-18-2006, 11:38 PM
Ok. Its not that great, but I didnt want to do anything special with these. But I still want to know how I did. Im going to actually do more to the background and renders when I make my bleach sigs. So what do you think?

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9069/calamitysig9zm.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5629/raidersig9rn.jpg


http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/8841/forbiddensig1kg.jpg


For the text set it to to sharp or something. Not just "none". Its on the top bar menu thingy. And yea read some of my basic tutorials. I wrote A LOT of helpful stuff in this forum so anyone who comes here should be able to be pro in a couple days if they read it all :P

PSJ
Fri, 05-19-2006, 08:06 AM
I agree with Kage, read his tutorials. This goes for all beginners and not just God#2. It will do all of you very good to read up on some tutorials.

Carnage
Fri, 05-19-2006, 07:36 PM
Is this any better?

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3096/ichigobankaisigcopy1dv.jpg

dragonrage
Fri, 05-19-2006, 08:58 PM
Is this any better?

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3096/ichigobankaisigcopy1dv.jpg
its better, you should work on the text, and do a some enhancement to the render, its deffinately better. Not sure how i feel about the render on the left though, think you should work on that i don't see the significance of it.

Take pheonix and Kage's advice, go over some of the tuts.

Kraco
Sat, 05-20-2006, 03:14 AM
Is this any better?

Heh. Aye, it's much better and shows some nice artistic and technical aspects, but for some reason it hurts my eyes... I think the background and the renders are blending in a twisted way, and I can't always tell which one is which. That, of course, is my problem as such, and has nothing to do with your work. I just needed to say it here.

Other than that, like you said yourself, the render on he left is a bit strange. Generally people with their heads cropped out of the picture aren't the greatest of details. With that render you could say the red cape and the katana justify it some extent, but I'm still not sure they are enough as such to give the render the whole left side of the image. But once again, that's just my personal opinion.

master_me
Sat, 05-20-2006, 06:18 AM
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/mgfxn/shikagan.png
I went a bit over the top. Like, literally, over the top.
Note to self: No.

This was made as a joke for someone, hence the poor value:
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/mgfxn/lozkhr.gif

PSJ
Sat, 05-20-2006, 06:43 AM
I like that little banner thingy. Looks cool and it is very true to. Real heroes do use real blades.

Carnage
Sat, 05-20-2006, 11:00 AM
Ok, how is this? Any suggestions on how I can make it better? Im not sure if I should keep Byakuya in it.....What should I replace him with?


http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7623/sig3gp.jpg

PSJ
Sat, 05-20-2006, 11:18 AM
Keep Byakuya and remove Ichigo from the pic. The background needs work. I don't really know what you did there but it doesn't look very good. Keep working and read Kage's tutorials.

xDarkMaster
Sat, 05-20-2006, 11:59 AM
God#2: TRY to make the BG and render/s look good with each other. I honestly think you just make a BG with a random color and stick a render or two onto it sometimes.

PSJ or anyone else: You guys are all like "Read Kage's tutorials." However, I can only find the two video tuts and the Spidey tut. Am I missing something?

PSJ
Sat, 05-20-2006, 12:53 PM
Nah that's the tuts i'm talking about, the first video tut(one with Justice gundam as render) is probably the best for most of you, got some about brushing in that one.

Board of Command
Sat, 05-20-2006, 02:01 PM
Honestly, I don't agree with all the "read Kage's tutorials".

Most of the people that need to "read Kage's tutorials" need not to learn how sig making works, but to learn how to use Photoshop. The fundamentals are a lot more important than learning how to blend a render with a background. They need to learn how to use the all tools in Photoshop in conjunction with each other. They need to learn how to work with pictures before learning how to make sigs, not the other way around. Once you learn the basics you can apply them to sig making or whatever it is you want to do.

Good-Tutorials (www.good-tutorials.com) <- site with thousands of tutorials ranging from complete noob to very advanced.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "don't read Kage's tutorials". I'm sure they're very helpful. Personally, I've never read a single sig tutorial because it feels like you're just recreating what the author was making. I find it much more valuable to learn Photoshop in general and make what I want to make.

Kraco
Sat, 05-20-2006, 02:26 PM
Although I haven't read the said tutorials myself (my sigs aren't exactly of the same style), I think such straight-forward tuts can be very valuable. While I naturally think it would be nicer to know PS all-around as making sigs is 0.5% of the time I spend in PS, for many people desiring a completely custom sig image that's not necessary. If they can just follow an efficient and good tutorial, they will still get their own handmade signature in far less time than first learning great many things in PS they might not ever need. If they later decide they want to use PS for many other things, then they can go and learn it in a more broad way, taking their time, like the rest of us.

PSJ
Sat, 05-20-2006, 03:00 PM
You learn the use of diffrent tools and whatnot in a sig tutorial. "Learning how to blend a render with a background" isn't the only thing in a sig tutorial and you are not just re-creating the tutorial makers work. Learning how to blend bg and render is important in sig making though and i'm giving the advice of reading the Kage's tutorials because i think most people that visit this part of the forums does it mainly because they want to make kickass sigs not to learn PS as a whole.

Board of Command
Sat, 05-20-2006, 03:04 PM
But I'm speaking on behalf of the people trying to make their own sigs instead of following a template, people like God#2. They've worked very hard in creating their own stuff, but visually, they're certainly not the best in the world. I was on this boat when I first started too. It's people like this I'm gearing my last post to. Instead of saying "just go make what Kage's making", it's better for them to explore Photoshop before making images for specific purposes.

I agree that there are people who just want to make a quick, good-looking sig. And I'm definitely not saying you're giving bad advice. There is simply a group of people who choose not to follow templates, myself being one of them. For them, it's better to learn Photoshop in general.

PSJ
Sat, 05-20-2006, 03:39 PM
So you're saying that the rest of us aren't making our own stuff and just copying Kage and other people who have been nice enough to create sig tutorials?

I was the same when i started out photoshop to, and you can still explore photoshop. To me it is better to have a foundation to build on and then build your own work and put your own touch in it. I don't see my works as a "copy" of other people's sig works yet i have read tutorials to learn how to do diffrent things. The key is to mix and match everything you have learned as well as to put your own experimental touch on it.

Board of Command
Sat, 05-20-2006, 03:48 PM
So you're saying that the rest of us aren't making our own stuff and just copying Kage and other people who have been nice enough to create sig tutorials?
I meant no such thing. Obviously, people like you are already quite competent with Photoshop. I'm saying it's better to tell a beginner "go read a little bit on layer masking" than to say "go check out Kage's tutorial".

The key is to mix and match everything you have learned as well as to put your own experimental touch on it.
That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. There are some people who benefit more from learning the tools of the trade than from sig templates. To them, a simple tutorial on a blur effect could make all the difference. Like I said in my last post, not sure if you missed it or not (oh, it was the first sentence), that I'm only speaking on behalf of the people who fall into this category.

I don't see my works as a "copy" of other people's sig works
And I never implied that. Nowhere did I say it's bad to read sig tutorials.

PSJ
Sat, 05-20-2006, 04:03 PM
I haven't always been good at PS though. One thing that really made me try harder was to see good works from other people, among them Kage and the desire to make works like them. In a way i guess this can be interpreted as copying but it's more like inspiration.

I get what you mean though, there are alot of people that wants to know photoshop in general rather than just sig making, i think our opinions really doesn't agree on God#2 and that's why we have this discussion. Although i don't know #2 that well, but his works give me the impression that he mostly wants to learn how to make sigs and not the general idea of photoshop therefore i gave the advice of reading up on backgrounds and render blending. I might be wrong here and in that case the link to good-tutorials is a much better choice, i never learned alot from there though.

Board of Command
Sat, 05-20-2006, 04:49 PM
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7623/sig3gp.jpg
Like you, I don't know him very well either. But looking at this sig, it's obvious that something isn't right. Not because it doesn't look like a sig, but because he's not using Photoshop properly to piece everything together. It's not like he can't make sigs and needs a tutorial to get a rough starting point. It's that he already made a sig but it doesn't look right. I didn't mean he should master all aspects of Photoshop, I'm saying general tutorials could help to eliminate the technical flaws he currently has. This is probably what I meant to say in the beginning.

And no, PSJ, I'm not picking on you or anyone else in particular, so don't take it personally.

PSJ
Sat, 05-20-2006, 05:05 PM
I meant the same. Lets drop this discussion now. I didn't take it personally it just sounded a little strange, that's all. No harm done though.

master_me
Sat, 05-20-2006, 11:44 PM
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/mgfxn/yunam.png

I'm thinking about scanlines in the background, but there seems to be something lacking. I'd like to say now that I can _not_ use color balance layers, as photoshop is broken. This was made in Imageready.

Board of Command
Sun, 05-21-2006, 12:07 AM
I think the render being on the very right and the abstact stuff sticking out the left feels unbalanced. Try putting them closer together, if possible.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Sun, 05-21-2006, 01:55 AM
kk well now that was a lot of mentions of moi. Well heres my take:

BOC, you say you never read nor seen any of my tutorials. Yet somehow you know precisely what it covers? I made my tutorials to teach begginers and to teach anyone something new and original to add to their collection of PS knowledge. And of course that is exactly what tutorials are made for, atleast mine anyway. To give out knowledge you have learned from all other tutorials and trial and error. I have done my share of both and can assure you that this is the best way to learn the elements and tools photoshop has to offer. Unless you have a job where they don't monitor you and you can sit behind your desk all day doing nothing but photoshop, testing EVERY LAST DETAIL, then you can never really learn everything there is to learn. Or your a bum who doesn't need to work and does the same. Don't be so quick to judge my tutorials if you haven't read them. k?thnx.bye.

oh and btw, go read em. You might just learn something.

Thi3f
Sun, 05-21-2006, 10:21 AM
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Board of Command
Sun, 05-21-2006, 11:18 AM
Well, I thought we dropped this discussion, but apparently not. And in addition, you come straight at me with hostility. If you really want to go at it like this, I have no objections.


BOC, you say you never read nor seen any of my tutorials. Yet somehow you know precisely what it covers?
Actually, no. Find me one quote where I specifically mention what they cover. And don't say "blending render to background" because that's what every sig tutorial includes.

I made my tutorials to teach begginers and to teach anyone something new and original to add to their collection of PS knowledge. And of course that is exactly what tutorials are made for, atleast mine anyway. To give out knowledge you have learned from all other tutorials and trial and error. I have done my share of both and can assure you that this is the best way to learn the elements and tools photoshop has to offer.
Maybe you misinterpreted the entire discussion, because that was not the topic at hand. We were discussion whether it's better for certain individuals to read sig tutorials or general Photoshop tutorials. Sig tutorials teach techniques that look nice in sigs, while general tutorials teach techniques that are more broadly-used and could help to improve a sig. There's a big difference between the two.

Unless you have a job where they don't monitor you and you can sit behind your desk all day doing nothing but photoshop, testing EVERY LAST DETAIL, then you can never really learn everything there is to learn.
I never said you have to learn EVERYTHING if you don't stick to sig tutorials alone. I never said you have to master every last detail. Please don't put words in my mouth.

Or your a bum who doesn't need to work and does the same. Don't be so quick to judge my tutorials if you haven't read them. k?thnx.bye.
Oh, so quick to bring out the flamethrower. Did I judge your tutorials? Again, find me one quote where I judged your tutorials. I just used your tutorials as an example of sig tutorials. Once again, the discussion was whether or not sig tutorials or general tutorials are better for certain individuals. Please stop putting words in my mouth. Or better yet, stop getting all riled up just because your name was mentioned in a discussion. If anything, you should be proud because your work was used to represent sig tutorials in general.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "don't read Kage's tutorials". I'm sure they're very helpful.
Btw, that was in my very first post. Please read the entire discussion instead of skimming through the page looking for your name.

oh and btw, go read em. You might just learn something.
Maybe I will. I never said I wouldn't, I just haven't done so yet.

Any tutorial/method of doing anything, should not be followed mechanically, you need to find the right balance between using it as a base, and your own creativity and experience, this applies to pretty much anything, unless your goal is to copy something.
And that was exactly the agreement we came to. A sig is a compilation of many tools you've learned, and those tools can come from both sig tutorials and general tutorials. Whenever someone makes a sig that doesn't look quite right, telling them to "go read a sig tutorial" is quite restricting. That's why I said it's better for some people to read general tutorials. Never have I said "don't read sig tutorials."

And here's to all you bystanders waiting to get a piece of this action:
Make sure you read and understand the discussion before posting irrelevant garbage.

PSJ
Sun, 05-21-2006, 12:46 PM
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/mgfxn/yunam.png

I'm thinking about scanlines in the background, but there seems to be something lacking. I'd like to say now that I can _not_ use color balance layers, as photoshop is broken. This was made in Imageready.


First i don't agree with the positioning of the render. The render should be the main focus in the sig, your sig simply doesn't have anything i can focus on as the background is pretty empty in itself. Don't get me wrong, it's a good background but it needs a point of focus and the text in the middle simply isn't enough of a focus point.

It also feels very bland, it lacks color. On the render you have a color balance layer right? It is erased right by the shoulder which is grey, this looks very strange. Keep the render in colors and use the colors from the render in the bg.

It may be because you didn't make it in PS. Please note that it is in no way a bad sig, it just needs some finishing touches and changes.

I hope this will help you.

xDarkMaster
Sun, 05-21-2006, 03:31 PM
I have just made my latest sig. It is a bit different than all my others in more that one way.

WARNING: MAJOR, SUPER, ULTRA NARUTO MANGA SPOILERS!!! (http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/549/sasukecopy1qg.png)

PSJ
Sun, 05-21-2006, 03:35 PM
That looks pretty awesome, keep working with the bg a bit and you will have yourself a cool looking sig, toobad you can't use it on the forums for a long time.

Zinobi
Sun, 05-21-2006, 03:56 PM
What exactly is the spoiler there?

xDarkMaster
Sun, 05-21-2006, 04:16 PM
I dunno, some people consider how someone looks after the time jump a spoiler. PSJ, what do you think needs improving in the BG?

Board of Command
Sun, 05-21-2006, 04:24 PM
Maybe you can try to get rid of that big angular cut on the right side of Sasuke. Also, the left and right sides of the smoky stuff in the background blend into the black differently, so try making it more uniform.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2083/bauer7ep.jpg
New work. I suck with text.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Sun, 05-21-2006, 11:59 PM
Things wrong with this sig:

Render is just hanging out not really looking like its a part of the sig. The outer glow is a big no.

Scanlines = garbage. Always. Forever.

The render's brightness/contrast doest match that of the bg.

Yea, text...too big and the stroke makes it stand out so much that it's pretty much the focal point.



And BTW BOC, my tut's are exactly like my cnc (comments 'n criticisms). I just write what makes a good piece of art, a good piece of art. And that's all there is to it. You can't debate that with "sig tutorials are different from photoshop tutorials".
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Darkmaster. You're really improving and that is a great sig. Keep it up!

Board of Command
Mon, 05-22-2006, 12:10 AM
Thanks for the comments, Kage. I'll rework that piece sometimes in the near future.

You can't debate that with "sig tutorials are different from photoshop tutorials".
I don't see why I can't. Take the sharpening tutorial I posted for example. That's not exactly meant to create great art, but it's certainly a tool that might come in handy once in a while. And it just happens, by pure chance, that it works wonders in anime sigs. Have you seen that technique used in any sig tutorials? Probably not. This is just one example of how general tutorials are different from sig tutorials.

PSJ
Mon, 05-22-2006, 03:47 AM
I dunno, some people consider how someone looks after the time jump a spoiler. PSJ, what do you think needs improving in the BG?

Depth and color alternation, you got two shades of purple in all of it and it feels very flat. Add highlights and shadows through brushing to get some depth to it, it also gives you a bit more diffrent shades of purple, you could work with some blending of the render to but that comes after the bg. You could also add some text but it isn't really necessary if you can pull of a good bg.

Otherwise it looks cool.

master_me
Mon, 05-22-2006, 06:07 AM
On the render you have a color balance layer right?

Actually, no. Imageready, which I'm using in place of photoshop, lacks that. I just did low saturation colorize >_>;;

As far as the render being the focus, it's a sort of small and bland render in itself. I might decide to just remake it, as now that I look at it, it's not too great.

PSJ
Mon, 05-22-2006, 06:54 AM
Ah k, the background is nice so you should keep that but if the render in itself is small and bland try to find a better more colorful render.

Did a new one with an FFX-2 render

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6483/ffx2copy1qf.png

Board of Command
Mon, 05-22-2006, 10:42 AM
That looks very nice PSJ. My one suggestion is to fade away the top right corner like you did to the bottom left. But then again, I don't know what that would look like, so try it and see if it works out.

PSJ
Mon, 05-22-2006, 01:09 PM
That would give to much white in it, partial fade could work but if i over-do it it will look crappy and the top right will lose depth and that will probably make the top right look crappier than it already does, i'm thinking of just re-doing all of that. Not really happy with the brushing.

Here's an update:
V1
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6483/ffx2copy1qf.png
V2
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9749/ffx2copy22bg.png

Board of Command
Mon, 05-22-2006, 02:20 PM
You know what? Screw the Jack Bauer sig. That was just a joke (people with me on IRC would know what I'm talking about). Here's a new one.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9118/squall13xg.jpg

PSJ, I like the first version better. I know you're trying to balance out the yellow, but white is easier on the eyes.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Mon, 05-22-2006, 02:27 PM
Thats looking pretty nice but I'd say 80% of the sig is all render. The bg is really just some red brushing, and it looks quite flat. Text is nicely done but it looks as if you spent the most time on that then the rest of the sig.

As far as your statement goes regarding your "sharpening technique" I think that when applied correctly most, if not ALL of my tutorials can be used with a much larger canvas. In fact my one photomanip using an anime render (Auel from GSD) was a larger scale work. I see what your trying to say though that certain tut's apply to everything and some only apply to one thing, that is true in some cases. That is, if the tutorial is very poorly done and just isn't good. I teach the elements of photoshop and what makes something not only look good but have it look good with detail and evidence of effort.

Oh and PSJ I dont like the FF one. Use a bigger canvas and try to make the sig less busy (too much going on) focal point focal point focal point!

Screw it Im making a new tut. I'm gonna try to make one that teaches you how to have a good focal point cause I seem to be saying this a lot.

Board of Command
Mon, 05-22-2006, 02:44 PM
I guess I have a knack for hiding my trails :) Most of the background is a stained glass filter, with a little bit of brushing over top.Most of the time was spent on masking work. And text is actually very easy (unless you were being sarcastic) and I'll post a tut if you're interested. But thanks for the comments nonetheless.
It looks flat? I'll play with some contrast/levels then. If you meant it only has one color, that's because the render is dark and monotonous. I wanted to try multiple colors but the second color turned out to be black...

Adjusted:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/363/squall27kp.jpg

And I'm not gonna reply to your latest addition to this tutorial discussion. I'm just gonna drop it before it gets out of hand. If you feel that I was dissing up your work, I wasn't. Just like I said to PSJ, none of this is anything personal so don't take it that way.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Mon, 05-22-2006, 02:59 PM
The bg feels flat because theres no higlights and shadows, its just a solid shade of midtones coloring. No lighting.

And I didn't think you were dissing my work, just trying to prove that my tutorials aren't one-dimensional and helps in a variety of things.

heres the sig I'll be making a tutorial on. I really like it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/RockLee89/Haku.jpg


went back and fixed it up a bit

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/RockLee89/fbcbafd9.jpg

PSJ
Tue, 05-23-2006, 08:30 AM
Awesome work Kage, version 2 is great. Looks really hot, i'll be sure to check out the tutorial on that one when you're done.

xDarkMaster
Tue, 05-23-2006, 04:14 PM
Thanks for all the help on my Sasuke sig guys, sorry it took me so long to respond but I have been busy. I have tried to fix all the suggestions you gave me, and this is what came out.

WARNING: NARUTO MANGA SPOILERS (http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/543/sasukecopy32zi.png)

I'm still debating over text. As always, any comments are helpful and appreciated. I should check to see if I can use that sig earlier....

Board of Command
Tue, 05-23-2006, 04:41 PM
Certainly an improvement, xDarkMaster.

I decided to try a different background style with that Squall sig. Maybe get more highlights and shadows like Kage said. Here it is.
Version 1:
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4870/squall29hr.jpg
Version 2:
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1028/squall2copy2mn.jpg

xDarkMaster
Tue, 05-23-2006, 04:45 PM
It certainly looks better than the first version. One complaint is the upper left corner looks out of place.

Board of Command
Tue, 05-23-2006, 04:50 PM
Fixed. Changed the belt color along the way too.

Itachi_y2k5
Tue, 05-23-2006, 04:52 PM
i havent posted in a while Oo' anyways i was just playing on photoshop and did this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/Itachi_y2k5/tomb-raider.jpg
its pretty crap but its the first peice of photoshop ive done in a while =S
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/Itachi_y2k5/gundam.jpg
what u guys think

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Tue, 05-23-2006, 05:12 PM
Ok BOC, a couple of tips.

Utilize negative space. Pretty much means the entire bg doesn't need to be filled and it should fade to black. Keyword there is fade, dont want an abrubt change into blackyness.

Another thing is the 'direction' of the sig. See how the render is going diagonally down and to the left, yet the bg is just left to right? You always wanna try to match the two as best you can.

Darkmaster, put the original next to the updated version in the same post so I can see the difference.

Itachi, you should start doing PS again, you were getting really good. You should be back to where you were at in no time.

Board of Command
Tue, 05-23-2006, 05:20 PM
Utilize negative space. Pretty much means the entire bg doesn't need to be filled and it should fade to black. Keyword there is fade, dont want an abrubt change into blackyness.

But my background is a photomanip of clouds and plains as if the guy is falling out of the sky. I know what you're saying because I've done it on some of my abstract backgrounds, but it doesn't make much sense to fade a sunny landscape to black.


Another thing is the 'direction' of the sig. See how the render is going diagonally down and to the left, yet the bg is just left to right? You always wanna try to match the two as best you can.
This sounds like a good idea. I'll try it out.

edit: ok I tried that, it looks very awkward because the blade is pointing to the ground. Also, it takes away from the "falling" aspect when the render is aligned parallel to the horizon.

xDarkMaster
Tue, 05-23-2006, 05:24 PM
Kage: Here you go

---Naruto Manga Spoilers---

v. 1 (http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/549/sasukecopy1qg.png)
v. 2 (http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3677/sasukecopy37ns.png)

Edit: Edited color in 2nd version a bit.

Kagari
Wed, 05-24-2006, 03:47 AM
Found some old sigs i made way back when for the gotwoot sig contests. brings back memories. The sasuke one is the original variation of the sig i'm currently using.

the last one is just something i created today from my Final Fantasy 11 character, wanted to practice with the gradient tools and get back in the sig business :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Kagarinaruto/nejistartkagari.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Kagarinaruto/Zakusig.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Kagarinaruto/sasuke.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Kagarinaruto/choujicopy.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Kagarinaruto/entinprogcopy.jpg


let me know what you guys think, if the feedback is good i might start up the ol' photoshop again :P

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PSJ
Wed, 05-24-2006, 05:40 AM
Yo Kagari, longtime no see. What made you comeback to the boards?

I like the Neji one and the Zaku one. Work a bit with the background in both. Since you already know your share of PS i can give this advice without getting killed by someone. Read up on some of Kage's tutorials in the tutorial section here at the fanart section, they are really good. The 2 video tut's are great so if you want to fire up PS again it's a good watch.

New work:
Tried something like Kage's Haku sig, comments are welcome.
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5303/angelsigcopy4vl.png

New work V2:
It turned out very diffrent from Kage's Haku work in the end.
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1269/angelsigcopy27od.png

IFHTT
Wed, 05-24-2006, 02:39 PM
Wow PSJ, that looks incredible! Very nice job!

Board of Command
Wed, 05-24-2006, 02:50 PM
Since you already know your share of PS i can give this advice without getting killed by someone. Read up on some of Kage's tutorials in the tutorial section here at the fanart section, they are really good.
You watch what you say, sir! :D

But ya I agree with PSJ, you need to work on the backgrounds. Try not to fall in love with the difference gradient too much (Neji and FFXI). I don't see any brushing in all 5 pieces, so try to incorporate some of that.

PSJ
Wed, 05-24-2006, 03:25 PM
You watch what you say, sir! :D

But ya I agree with PSJ, you need to work on the backgrounds. Try not to fall in love with the difference gradient too much (Neji and FFXI). I don't see any brushing in all 5 pieces, so try to incorporate some of that.


Please don't kill me!!!!

But yea i agree with BoC, brushing is a great friend in sig work. Don't fall into the trap of only brushing one layer and then slap a color balance on top of it, switch between brushes and black and white to get a more complex background, also use the layer function as much as possible not to much brushing on each layer, it will be alot harder to edit later. These advice are for everyone that wants to start out with brushing.

Get brushes at www.deviantart.com, just search for photoshop brushes.

Thi3f
Wed, 05-24-2006, 06:09 PM
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