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shinta|hikari
Wed, 06-24-2009, 06:40 AM
Changed to deviantart. She is back.

I honestly don't get why it got taken down at photobucket. It doesn't even expose anything.

Zinobi
Tue, 07-07-2009, 10:24 PM
Soo uh...
should i make sigs again?

Archangel
Tue, 07-07-2009, 10:31 PM
What would happen if we said no? O_o

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Wed, 07-08-2009, 03:45 AM
youre too official for sig making

Nadouku
Wed, 07-08-2009, 08:34 AM
If you're up to it, sure. :D

shinta|hikari
Thu, 07-09-2009, 06:31 AM
New avatar. My current.

Archangel
Thu, 07-09-2009, 07:28 AM
Why don't i ever recognize these characters you use? -_-

Buffalobiian
Thu, 07-09-2009, 07:58 AM
Why don't i ever recognize these characters you use? -_-

Watch Phantom then.

@shinta: Looks pretty cool, though a bit strange. I think its because the lighter green you used on the mask is a colour scheme previously unexplored in the anime, so it gives it different atmosphere.

To be really picky, that mask might be a little overempowering. (i.e. big), but it's not like it's ruining anything. Just me wanting to see more of Ein.

Nadouku
Thu, 07-09-2009, 09:23 AM
To be honest, I liked your Alice one better because I like the red color, but Ein is fine too with the green shade.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Fri, 07-10-2009, 09:20 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/RockLee89/naturalmysticcopy.jpg
An abstract wallpaper, I cant decide if its fine the way it is or if it needs more touching up.

Archangel
Fri, 07-10-2009, 09:30 PM
I think it has too much black space, try filling that out

I'd also go for brighter colors but that's just my personal taste

RyougaZell
Fri, 07-10-2009, 10:58 PM
I pretty much haven't had the time to better my low skills on Photoshop... but I had the sudden urge to do this one.

Its nothing original though... I blatantly copied the Yuzu one and replaced her with Haru...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/haru.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/yuzuv2.png

KrayZ33
Mon, 07-13-2009, 03:55 AM
I like the yuzu one much more, maybe because I like her looks better :/

and she has this extremely cool look on her face

RyougaZell
Sat, 07-18-2009, 11:17 PM
I had the sudden urge to make this one.
The image doesn't have that great quality since its a 1998 game and hunting a good scan became a total pain.

Lisa Silverman. Persona 2.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/Lisa.png

Thoughts?

Archangel
Sat, 07-18-2009, 11:36 PM
Your stuff reminds me of the stuff i made when i first got photoshop. It's actually kind of nostalgic to see it haha

I think Luci made a tutorial on render improvement that would probably work well with the one. Also, try to extract it a little better

RyougaZell
Sun, 07-19-2009, 12:35 AM
Linkage would be appreciated.
And the render extraction was the best I could do... the video was a youtube source -___-

Archangel
Sun, 07-19-2009, 12:55 AM
Use the Poly lasso tool and zoom to like 400%

Takes some time but it's worth it

Try this (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8734/tutorial02original.jpg), but you might want to use a different background for it

enkoujin
Thu, 07-23-2009, 01:40 AM
One of my favorite characters to use in Super Smash Brothers Brawl is Jigglypuff, so after much delaying, I have finally created a signature as a tribute to it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/xSharinganx/jigglypuff_sig_enko.png

Tutorial Used: http://10steps.sg/photoshop/creating-an-abstract-watercolor-wallpaper/

The text is off a lot, so I will have to fix that very soon.

Archangel
Thu, 07-23-2009, 01:51 AM
Lol, i had to look for a couple seconds to see it

The "legs" in the center divert your attention from it

Buffalobiian
Thu, 07-23-2009, 05:58 AM
Lol, i had to look for a couple seconds to see it

The "legs" in the center divert your attention from it

It took me a little longer than a few seconds, but I found it. :p

I was like...."Where's the Jigglypuff?"

shinta|hikari
Sat, 07-25-2009, 03:08 AM
New CANAAN sig. It is my current as usual.

Comments are welcome :)

Nadouku
Sat, 07-25-2009, 04:07 AM
Cool as usual. I was like "where do the scanlines go: vertical or horizontal?" at first glance, but now I know the answer. :p

Buffalobiian
Sat, 07-25-2009, 05:16 AM
New CANAAN sig. It is my current as usual.

Comments are welcome :)

The source was from the CANAAN OP1 CD art, right?

I really like the colour scheme, since it blends with her hair so well.

Nice job.

samsonlonghair
Sat, 08-08-2009, 12:18 AM
I made this sig three years ago when I was going through a phase of only b&w signatures, but I never used it. Today I was looking through some old files on an external drive, and I'm thinking of using this here.
http://n.1asphost.com/Skellington/dragon%20sig.jpg.jpg

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Sat, 08-08-2009, 01:35 AM
i like it, text on the left is pro... right text ruins it.

Archangel
Sat, 08-08-2009, 09:16 AM
i like it, text on the left is pro... right text ruins it.

This

If you don't have the psd you could try some gradient overlay and then some healing

Ryllharu
Thu, 08-13-2009, 07:56 PM
The source image I got this from had a very yellowed, aged vellum feel to it that I liked, so I tried to maintain that. Unfortunately, the smoke really doesn't work with the yellow at signature resolutions, where it all but completely disappears, but I suppose it could make a decent PSP wallpaper with a few minor adjustments.
(That is..if I had a PSP).

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7955/misakiandusui1.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/i/misakiandusui1.jpg/)

shinta|hikari
Thu, 08-13-2009, 08:23 PM
You can simply up the contrast to make the smoke stand out more. A bit of colour balancing and adding an orange tint can make it a great sig.

shinta|hikari
Mon, 08-17-2009, 06:39 PM
Sorry for the double post.

New sig and avatar set. Again, it is my current.

Please ignore the strange blank space to the left of the left scan lines (the scan lines are supposed to extend to the edge, like the right side). It is unintentional and will be edited out after I get back home from work.

Comments please!

I just had to make them after watching Rebuild of Evangelion 2: You Can (Not) Advance. Fantastic movie, but no decent copy out yet.

Ryllharu
Mon, 08-17-2009, 07:14 PM
I like the avatar, but the render in the sig looks a bit too much like cheesy SquareEnix CG. Personal taste due to my deep hatred of the horrible dub on Star Ocean 4, which Asuka with plug suit reminds me of. Aside from that, the sig is nicely done too.

Now I have to get back on fixing that thing with your advice.

KitKat
Mon, 08-17-2009, 08:01 PM
I 100% agree with Ryll. Sig is excellent but the render is creepy. Although, for me it looks more like a doll from a horror movie that comes to life and murders everyone.....

Ryllharu
Mon, 08-17-2009, 08:33 PM
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3687/misakiandusuisig1.jpg

After a couple of adjustment layers and appropriate sig dimensions, I have this. A ton of negative space on the right side though, and I'm not sure what I really want to put there. I'd have to redraw her elbow if I wanted to put them in the middle to balance it out.

The seam is still visible as well on closer inspection. I need a bit more mending there.

shinta|hikari
Mon, 08-17-2009, 09:08 PM
You can just clone part of her forearm to complete it. The picture should not extend to her elbow anyway, so it should be easy. I think placing them on the center is a good idea.

Buffalobiian
Mon, 08-17-2009, 11:14 PM
I actually found the sig pretty intriguing. It's the first time I've seen her in 3D, and I like the result. Cheezy? Perhaps, but I don't find it a problem.

Individually, the sig and avatar look good, but together their style seems a bit too different. It's a fairly striking difference, but it's one I think I'll get used to over time.

Marik
Mon, 08-17-2009, 11:23 PM
I liked the Tsundere-chan sig more.


Although, for me it looks more like a doll from a horror movie that comes to life and murders everyone.....
Indeed. When I first saw it, I immediately thought of the movie, Child's Play. "Hi I'm Asuka, wanna plaaaay?" Nice avatar, though.

Archangel
Mon, 08-17-2009, 11:28 PM
Indeed, i hate the signature because of the render but the avatar is first class

shinta|hikari
Mon, 08-17-2009, 11:29 PM
Thanks for the comments. I was actually going for a more realistic depiction of Asuka (for personal reasons), which is why I chose those two images.

shinta|hikari
Wed, 08-19-2009, 07:26 AM
Sorry for the double post again. New Asuka sig, because almost everyone seemed to hate the 3d version.

Comments please! Obviously I listen to them LOL.

Marik
Wed, 08-19-2009, 10:06 AM
Major improvement, good job.

Archangel
Wed, 08-19-2009, 12:23 PM
Lol, that sig yells tsundere

Buffalobiian
Wed, 08-19-2009, 11:33 PM
Haha, I just find the second sig really really funny.

aka I like it.

Lucifus
Sat, 09-05-2009, 12:22 AM
Thanks to Shinta for some inspiration.
Wiped the dust off photoshop, I've been abstinent for far too long.


http://i32.tinypic.com/aub4lt.png

http://i32.tinypic.com/2v8i907.png

Random Quickies. Be brutal, I wanna start up some work again. Lemme know whats lacking/overpowered.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Sat, 09-05-2009, 01:39 PM
scanlines get old.
bg+render+border+text = not a nice sig

that was brutal, and this probably will be too even though its not meant to be, be more creative.

Lucifus
Sat, 09-05-2009, 01:52 PM
I appreciate it actually, your right. I just reverted to the last semi-remembered style I had, which needs to change.

Drop the scan-lines on the next attempt, got it.

"bg+render+border+text = not a nice sig"
This I dont get. Isn't that what a signature is comprised of? Or were you saying they were just terrible in general.

Your absolutely right though, I coulda have made so much more with both those renders.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Sat, 09-05-2009, 05:19 PM
nah im not saying its all terrible... just that theres steps in between those that your sigs could deff use. like some foreground effects, something to help draw your eye towards the renders.

shinta|hikari
Sat, 09-05-2009, 10:01 PM
New sig and avatar said starring who is arguable the most deservingly popular character this season. Again, the new set is the one I am using.

Comments please!

Carnage
Sat, 09-05-2009, 10:35 PM
Who's this? From which show?

Marik
Sat, 09-05-2009, 10:37 PM
Senjougahara Hitagi from Bakemonogatari.

Buffalobiian
Sat, 09-05-2009, 11:06 PM
New sig and avatar said starring who is arguable the most deservingly popular character this season. Again, the new set is the one I am using.

Comments please!

They're quite different from your other ones, and both play with contrasting colours that aren't all that natural to how they're portrayed in the anime.

A can't remember her ever pulling a face like she has in your avatar. It's a tad scary. Used to it now.

As for the sig, I think the colours are a little funny. I'm not against the style, since the show itself is also animated by SHAFT, but I don't think the colours go well together. The dark hair and shadow across her face gives her a "nasty" sort of feel. Senjougahara was always teasing and rather mean, but nor "dark", which the sig seems to suggest.

The grey and orange don't match well neither.

I like the concept, but it didn't turn out quite right. I think it's due to the lack of vibrant colours that gives her the impression of a light-hearted teasing character. But, perhaps you were aiming for something different.

shinta|hikari
Sun, 09-06-2009, 03:56 AM
Changed the colour scheme. I really didn't care much for the previous colour either. I was just lost on what to use, so if you think vibrant looks better, it may very well be so.

It is my current, again.

Is it any better?

Buffalobiian
Sun, 09-06-2009, 04:10 AM
Is it any better?

I guess... I don't know if it's just be, but it seems rather lifeless compared to your previous ones. It might be the render too.

Still, I think the new colour background works better than the last. That much is certain.

Alhuin
Sun, 09-06-2009, 12:25 PM
I don't really log in to post anymore (since I haven't had any real creative inspirations for photoshop in awhile, though I do work occasionally), but I visit the forums nearly every two-three days at the most. Now, being a fellow Photoshop artist, I like to see everyone else's creations and compare them to what I know... try and learn some more. So basically, I'm logging in to ask shinta if it's possible for you to actually post your sigs instead of always changing your current? I've missed... probably the last 5 or 6 sigs you've made and why they got the criticism they got (minus your most recent Asuka one). I apologize if my post seems demanding, that isn't my intention... simply asking if that would be possible. Thanks.

PS: If I can actually find time to sit down and finish the several sigs that I've been working on, then I'll be able to post my own again.

shinta|hikari
Sun, 09-06-2009, 06:33 PM
It is no problem. The images are uploaded anyway, so posting the links take no time at all.

Here they are from latest to earliest.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/hitagisigcommentscopy.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/hitagisig3flatcopy.jpg

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs49/f/2009/231/5/0/asukasig2_by_shinta_hikari.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/shikinami.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/syn2.jpg

http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs49/f/2009/175/9/f/Octavia_X_Sword_by_shinta_hikari.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/b-rabbitsigcopy.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/k-linesig.jpg

There are more, but these are the more recent ones that you probably missed.

I will post new sigs from now on, too.

EDIT: Please comment on the latest one as well. While I greatly appreciate Buff's comments as they allow me to improve the sig, more opinions are always wanted.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Mon, 09-07-2009, 01:29 AM
if you took the time to erase the white outline off asuka youd have a gorgeoussssiggg

The Chancellor
Tue, 09-08-2009, 03:28 PM
It is no problem. The images are uploaded anyway, so posting the links take no time at all.

Here they are from latest to earliest.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/hitagisigcommentscopy.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/hitagisig3flatcopy.jpg

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs49/f/2009/231/5/0/asukasig2_by_shinta_hikari.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/shikinami.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/syn2.jpg

http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs49/f/2009/175/9/f/Octavia_X_Sword_by_shinta_hikari.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/b-rabbitsigcopy.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/k-linesig.jpg

There are more, but these are the more recent ones that you probably missed.

I will post new sigs from now on, too.

EDIT: Please comment on the latest one as well. While I greatly appreciate Buff's comments as they allow me to improve the sig, more opinions are always wanted. I love the first one. The red is nice and rich and it makes it pop much more. Goes well with your profile pic too.

However I still think that the best one you've have was the one before this one with the girl holding the flower. That was also a nice one.

Archangel
Thu, 09-10-2009, 07:32 PM
I miss K-ON! ;_;

PS: That first Asuka sig still creeps me out, but the rest are quite good

Ryllharu
Thu, 09-10-2009, 07:45 PM
I miss K-ON! ;_;
There has only ever been room in my heart for one Miyo.

I'm predicting shinta goes for a Railgun sig, and a Yin sig. Though, depending on how Fairy Tail turns out, it could be Erza all the way. No Sawako (Kimi no Todoke), she's mine.

Once I can find some decent renders that is.

EDIT:
A goofy shot of her is the best available that I can currently find.

I'm always partial to simplicity, but without better renders, there's really nothing to inspire me to fill in the whitespace. Blank look, blank sig.
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3136/sawakoprelim.jpg

Archangel
Thu, 09-10-2009, 07:59 PM
In a weird way... i like it

And an Erza sig would be epic indeed, but Zell would kill Shinta with fire if he ever stole Biri Biri from him

shinta|hikari
Thu, 09-10-2009, 08:38 PM
I don't think I will ever make a Biri biri sig. I like her as a character, but I am not particularly fond of her looks (art style and face) which is the main focus in my sigs.

Yin and Erza are a definite, as long as good scans come out.

I actually really like that blank sig. The only thing I would add is a border with the same shade as the render, and/or maybe a Hiragana character "E..." or "E-" in the middle of the blank space on the left side.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Fri, 09-11-2009, 03:49 AM
i like your avatar muchooo shinta

shinta|hikari
Sat, 09-12-2009, 12:19 AM
Didn't have much to do so I tried making a Shinobu sig. The background is made from scratch. Aside from that, I added some shadows and softened the ones already drawn in to match the BG. I was trying to go for a vampire look with pale skin but really contrasting hair and eyes, but I'm not sure if I overdid the contrast because of my monitor (which has weird brightness).

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/shinobusig3copy.jpg

Here is one with slightly less contrast.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/shinobusig3copy2.jpg

Comments please!

Ryllharu
Sat, 09-12-2009, 05:15 AM
The lines on the render aren't very smooth (looks grainy), and the other problem with it is that it's really hard to tell it's Shinobu without the distinctive tips to her hair. It looks more like a blond Rei Ayanami wearing goggles. I'm not certain that Shinobu is that pale either. With SHAFT playing around with the colors all the time it is hard to be sure, but in episode 8 her skin color is the same shade as Araragi's.

The background looks great though.

shinta|hikari
Sat, 09-12-2009, 05:26 AM
The paleness is intentional. It is like a personal touch to emphasize her vampire nature. I can't really do anything about the hair though. The scan won't permit any of the tips to enter.

The big problem is indeed the lines. Maybe I will try to blur them a bit to make it less grainy. Still, since I don't plan to use this sig, I can't really get the motivation to edit it anymore.

Ryllharu
Sun, 09-13-2009, 11:51 AM
I tried it with a border and with my username on it and it just looked out of place. Simplicity really is best for Sawako.

I think it might be too soon to use a signature. I've spent so long without one, that my posts look very strange with one.

Perhaps it might be time for Miyo to move on out of my avatar...

RyougaZell
Thu, 09-17-2009, 09:28 PM
Meh... another clone of one of my sigs.
Didn't really do much yet again. Still... I can't really get in a mood to try and make good sigs like some people here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/firmas/amane.png

Archangel
Thu, 09-17-2009, 09:33 PM
Now she doesn't even match with the background >_>

RyougaZell
Thu, 09-17-2009, 09:40 PM
Have you even played Devil Survivor? :rolleyes:
How can she not match the background when even the souce from where I got it was like that? http://ds.atlusnet.jp/character/chara_amane.html

Archangel
Thu, 09-17-2009, 10:19 PM
I obviously mean the color doesn't match, not the context >_>

RyougaZell
Thu, 09-17-2009, 10:20 PM
And like I said. The source had the same background style. Go tell Atlus they don't match.

Buffalobiian
Thu, 09-17-2009, 10:25 PM
Misaki Mikoto is still my favourite one. It's also the cleanest.

Archangel
Thu, 09-17-2009, 10:28 PM
And like I said. The source had the same background style. Go tell Atlus they don't match.

I'm thinking it did match ( for them ) since they used that background on all their character's right? Probably because it makes sense if take the story into account.

In terms of colors, in my opinion, the render doesn't match with the background

RyougaZell
Fri, 09-18-2009, 12:51 AM
I suck at texts...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/firmas/rise.png

Any recommendation on what text to use? And how to make it look good... ugh.

Archangel
Fri, 09-18-2009, 12:59 AM
I don't know about any cute fonts... well, maybe cuisine but that's it

But the background/render looks blurry anyway, you should look for something else

shinta|hikari
Fri, 09-18-2009, 01:44 AM
The render is generally the most important part of the sig. If it has poor quality, it makes it all the more difficult to make a decent sig. There should be a lot of Rise pics with much better quality, so use those.

If you want cute fonts, you can find some at dafont.com.

RyougaZell
Fri, 09-18-2009, 10:12 AM
I work on the same render again, using less blur. I can swear people here suggested using blur when I did the Lisa Silverman one...

I like to hear/read the critics. But I swear you guys always say things as if we all were Photoshop experts...

Shinta... do tell me where I can find those you mention. No fanart and definitely not the official artwork profile that is everywhere.

EDIT:

V2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/firmas/risev2.png

I think I need to kill the RZ and Persona 4...

What about the rest?

Buffalobiian
Fri, 09-18-2009, 06:42 PM
I work on the same render again, using less blur. I can swear people here suggested using blur when I did the Lisa Silverman one...

I like to hear/read the critics. But I swear you guys always say things as if we all were Photoshop experts...

Shinta... do tell me where I can find those you mention. No fanart and definitely not the official artwork profile that is everywhere.

EDIT:

V2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/firmas/risev2.png

I think I need to kill the RZ and Persona 4...


Definitely, RZ and Persona 4 are overkill. The other words look good though.

I think the white compensates for the less-than-stellar-quality scan. It's still a tad blurry due to the quality, but it gets portrayed as an "effect" rather than a bad scan because the white gives the sig a "dreamy" effect

Better than the red ones IMO.

What about the rest?

RyougaZell
Fri, 09-18-2009, 07:04 PM
V3

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/firmas/risev3.png

Suggestions on how to make the render look better (in english) are welcome.
Here is the original scan

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/firmas/th_04.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/firmas/04.jpg)

Archangel
Fri, 09-18-2009, 07:37 PM
Just use these renders Zell

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/paulosergio96/persona-4-bikini-action.png

or

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/paulosergio96/P3RenderFIN.png

dragonrage
Fri, 09-18-2009, 07:42 PM
V3

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/firmas/risev3.png

Suggestions on how to make the render look better (in english) are welcome.
Here is the original scan

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/firmas/th_04.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/firmas/04.jpg)

Honestly haven't touched photoshop in years.

But I think it is a good try, but the render, the background and the text don't flow together.

I suggest you get a better render or do some touch up work on it. Try blurring and fading some layers. Mess with a bit and the background as well until you are comfortable with it. Mess with the contrast and sharpness of the render create copies of the layer and mess with they transparency.

The Font could work, but it stands out more that the render does, try reducing the size and change the pixel size in the highlights. Also try blurring and change this contrast of a few layers of the text itself as well as mess with it's transparency.

Border is nice but try a different color just for kicks see what you come up with.

Your tag could be a like a tattoo on her arm or something. Try bending it to fit.

RyougaZell
Fri, 09-18-2009, 08:33 PM
Just use these renders Zell

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/paulosergio96/persona-4-bikini-action.png

or

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/paulosergio96/P3RenderFIN.png

I don't want to use Fanart :mad:

And Im not fond of Aigis either.


Dragonrage: I sent you a pm.

shinta|hikari
Fri, 09-18-2009, 09:20 PM
Try these.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/MinitokyoShinMegamiTensei-Persona4W.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/MinitokyoShinMegamiTensei-Persona4S.jpg

dragonrage
Fri, 09-18-2009, 11:21 PM
here are a could of site you can make some renders from the wallpapers.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/09/17/persona-wallpaper-gallery/

http://videogamesheaven.net/movie-persona-4-downloads.htm

shinta|hikari
Sat, 09-19-2009, 12:05 AM
@RZ - both the pictures I posted are official art.

EDIT: Here is the original scan.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/MinitokyoShinMegamiTensei-Person-1.jpg

I just thought that using the cleaned up wallpaper version would make it easier for you to cut her out.

Archangel
Sat, 09-19-2009, 09:42 AM
here are a could of site you can make some renders from the wallpapers.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/09/17/persona-wallpaper-gallery/

http://videogamesheaven.net/movie-persona-4-downloads.htm

I love those wallpapers :)

Alhuin
Sat, 09-26-2009, 06:19 PM
@shinta|hikari - Thanks for posting your sigs in an order... I actually saw you had done that the day of (or day after) your post, I just didn't log in to thank you at the time. As for my comments on them, the Asuka (non-realistic), CANAAN, and Pandora Hearts sigs are my favourite out of the list (with the PH being my favourite). I've never been good with critiquing, so I won't go down that road, but I will say that I like that they are all simplistic in nature. On other forums you see sigs that are overloaded with C4D, text, vectoring, etc., and as a result, lose the luster they could have had (most of them anyways... some are really nicely done even with everything thrown in). Don't get me wrong though, I'm not calling your sigs simple, just that I like the simplistic feel of them vs. cluttered sigs you could find elsewhere.

@RyougaZell - I haven't noticed if you've uploaded any other works, but judging by your comments, I'm going to assume you are still learning the ropes for Photoshop? The best advice I can give is to take a look at sig tutorials (found on this site or other sites) and combine the techniques you learn/like to make your own style of sig. As for improving the quality of your image, I believe there is also a small tut on that in the tut thread. However my best advice for that is to just find a better quality render, if possible :P
And as for text... well I'm not the best with text either so I can't give you any advice on that. But, just keep playing around with things... it may be frustrating, but eventually you'll come up with techniques you like to use and your pieces will improve. Keep practicing!

Now that that's out of the way, I have a question for you sig-makers. What photo-hosting site do you recommend to host sigs, that won't reduce their quality after upload. I currently use Photobucket, but after I upload a piece, the quality turns to shit... becomes pixelated and blurry, etc. I'm not sure why... I never had a problem with it before. I had to stop using my sig here (it just simply said "alhuin"... most of you might remember it) because of this sudden quality reduction. I have a few pieces that are close to finished and I would like to post them for some critiques.

Archangel
Sat, 09-26-2009, 06:22 PM
It was probably too big and photobucket automatically resized which in turn made it blurry

Try http://imageshack.us/

Alhuin
Sat, 09-26-2009, 08:30 PM
Meh, I've always used PB and it never had a problem until now... a lot of my sigs that I uploaded there were just fine when and after I uploaded them, until just recently, and they got messed up. So unless PB changed their size limit for an upload, I don't think that's it.

And about imageshack... I've always hated it because of the damn advertisements you have to bypass when you're looking at pictures (you know, the... click here to continue to your image... thing). But is that what anyone else recommends instead of PB?

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Sun, 10-11-2009, 07:34 AM
finally made some new stuff.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/RockLee89/deadpool.jpg

where the wild things are wallpaper
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/RockLee89/wildthings.jpg

is it real obvious im rusty?

Buffalobiian
Sun, 10-11-2009, 08:00 AM
The purple goes well with Deadpool.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Thu, 10-15-2009, 09:58 PM
sage kage makin a comeback


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/RockLee89/Sagejiraiya-1.jpg

or current?

Buffalobiian
Thu, 10-15-2009, 10:59 PM
Current looks better, then lighting's more natural.

Is it possible to keep the lighting effect without obscuring Pa?

Archangel
Fri, 10-16-2009, 06:23 AM
Couldn't you center his face a bit better? And both are way too bright on the left

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Fri, 10-16-2009, 09:53 PM
yeah you guys are right the lighting is fucked im just gonna get rid of most of it


he looks pretty centered to me... now that you mention it though it is a bit off, guess we dont need to see his thumb that badly.

Archangel
Sat, 10-17-2009, 05:14 AM
Well Jiraya should be drawing in all the attention right? Then his froggy nose should be right in the middle :)

shinta|hikari
Mon, 10-19-2009, 07:11 PM
New set. Niche from Letter Bee. My current.

I know there is not much to comment on, but I just want to ask if the colours look okay, especially on the sig. In my home monitor it looks good, but at work it seems kind of weird.

Ryllharu
Mon, 10-19-2009, 07:21 PM
The colors on the avatar are nice, very vibrant, but the sig looks a bit washed out (only noticeable because of the avatar). It is partially because of the black background.

shinta|hikari
Mon, 10-19-2009, 07:25 PM
Yeah, it looks that way here at work too. I guess my home monitor has more contrast than most. Well, it can be fixed with a bit of saturation and contrast fiddling when I get home.

EDIT: Or would it be better to tone down the avatar instead? I'm worried about making the sig to contrasting and hard on the eyes.

Nadouku
Mon, 10-19-2009, 08:10 PM
I like the simplicity of it, aside from your usual works of art. I guess I should watch Letter Bee.

Buffalobiian
Mon, 10-19-2009, 08:42 PM
I agree with Ryll, but not because of the relative effect compared with the avatar. I just think it looks washed out overall with or without it.

I noticed it on my laptop as well as my desktop.

Archangel
Mon, 10-19-2009, 08:50 PM
How about you post a couple versions with different fonts? I'm not really feeling that one

And just crank up the colors a bit. Maybe by setting the dark curve on the dark blue in her eyes and the light on the pink in her head accessory

KitKat
Mon, 10-19-2009, 11:10 PM
New current set, in honour of my favourite series right now.

shinta|hikari
Tue, 10-20-2009, 12:09 AM
I think the text does not really fit the background and overall theme of the sig. Something sharper and thinner might look better, along with some foreground effects to incorporate the text into the sig.

Can you try zooming in a bit on her so that she can fill up more of the space on the left? That way, the kitkat text can be moved together with the DtB text. It might look a bit more focused that way.

I think the stars background is a great idea, so tweaking the sig a bit should greatly improve the final results.

KitKat
Tue, 10-20-2009, 01:34 AM
Foreground effects.....I am not so experienced with such things. And I'm limited with text right now because all my fonts are on my computer that died. Anyhow, is this kind of what you were suggesting?

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d125/engphysgirl/sigs/Suou2copy.jpg

shinta|hikari
Tue, 10-20-2009, 01:54 AM
Yeah, that looks great.

Buffalobiian
Tue, 10-20-2009, 02:14 AM
Yeah, that looks great.

+1fdsakl;fdjskal;

shinta|hikari
Tue, 10-20-2009, 04:58 AM
Okay, like everyone suggested, I upped the colour and brightness a bit. I also made several versions with different text. Which of them looks best?

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava5.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava4.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava3.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava6.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava7.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava8.jpg

I am going for a simpler look, so I only used fonts that are not too fancy or elaborate.

Buffalobiian
Tue, 10-20-2009, 06:27 AM
I like this one.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava8.jpg

It's striking enough to draw attention and get the message across without screaming at you. I think the bits of black in the white text softens the contrast a bit, resulting in the latter effect. The squarish-roundness also fits in with Niche's face and body shape/size, unlike the lanky font #3.

Archangel
Tue, 10-20-2009, 07:10 AM
Okay, like everyone suggested, I upped the colour and brightness a bit. I also made several versions with different text. Which of them looks best?

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava5.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava4.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava3.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava6.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava7.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/nicheava8.jpg

I am going for a simpler look, so I only used fonts that are not too fancy or elaborate.

The last one, with 2 px smaller font and you have yourself a winner


Foreground effects.....I am not so experienced with such things. And I'm limited with text right now because all my fonts are on my computer that died. Anyhow, is this kind of what you were suggesting?

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d125/engphysgirl/sigs/Suou2copy.jpg

You might want to remove the shading from the text

Also, is that background a snapshot from the anime? Because it looks kinda choppy. If you could fix that i would be a big fan of that sig

shinta|hikari
Tue, 10-20-2009, 07:33 AM
Looks great now. Thanks for the comments and advice guys.

KitKat
Tue, 10-20-2009, 08:56 AM
Also, is that background a snapshot from the anime? Because it looks kinda choppy. If you could fix that i would be a big fan of that sig

Choppy how? Like non-uniform? I used a snapshot as the base of the background, but incorporated an actual photo of a comet. I'll check it out on my computer at work today, because sometimes my laptop screen doesn't show me small subtleties of colour and shades very well.

Buffalobiian
Tue, 10-20-2009, 09:06 AM
I think he means something like motion blur (not really, but..). You know how when you take a snapshot from an anime and the image isn't very refined, with weak edges and all?

That's what I see anyway. It's more evident around the comet. You can have polished up motion-blur, and then there's the unclean sort of blur. I think it falls in the latter one a bit.

Even the stars upon closer inspection look unfocused compared to the foreground and text.

I'm not making much sense, am I? :p

PS, I'm being picky.

Archangel
Tue, 10-20-2009, 09:53 AM
Choppy how? Like non-uniform? I used a snapshot as the base of the background, but incorporated an actual photo of a comet. I'll check it out on my computer at work today, because sometimes my laptop screen doesn't show me small subtleties of colour and shades very well.

Yeah i could tell it was. You might want to use some very light blur and darken it a bit to make it look less like a snapshot

If you up the psd i could try and disguise it better, i've lately gained some experience with that sort of thing

RyougaZell
Tue, 10-20-2009, 08:27 PM
Foreground effects.....I am not so experienced with such things. And I'm limited with text right now because all my fonts are on my computer that died. Anyhow, is this kind of what you were suggesting?

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d125/engphysgirl/sigs/Suou2copy.jpg


I think it looks great as it is. And I'm watching it on a 42" tv... Arche is just being... Archie :p

Archangel
Tue, 10-20-2009, 08:35 PM
Archie is picky and that is how Archie improves

Do not question the Archie

KitKat
Tue, 10-20-2009, 09:01 PM
Thanks for the feedback, guys. I see what you're saying, Archie. It's actually due to the photo of the comet, rather than the screenshot, because I was too lazy to erase the stuff around it, so those rough looking stars are from the comet picture. Here's a touched up version where I went back and erased around the comet and muted the stars in the screenshot a bit. It changes the tone of the sig, I think, from like, 'Meteoric explosion of stars and spacedust' to 'Mysterious meteor cruises through subdued skies'.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d125/engphysgirl/sigs/Suou3.jpg

shinta|hikari
Tue, 10-20-2009, 09:23 PM
Hmm, I like that the comet seems more smooth without the rough edges, but I also liked the wider and softer aura the previous one had. Maybe you can erase the ends the light aura border with a soft brush to make it meld into the night sky. And is it just me or is the comet trail curved this time? I liked the previous trail better.

The BG looks much better now with the toned down stars. The darker corners also make it less monotonous.Text also appears clearer. Looks overall better IMO.

KitKat
Tue, 10-20-2009, 10:40 PM
I'm reaching the point where every time I change something I agonize over whether it looks better or worse, and I've mangled my poor little meteor picture beyond all repair, so for the sake of my sanity, here is the final edit. Now to go make some cookies!

shinta|hikari
Tue, 10-20-2009, 10:52 PM
Looks perfect to me.

Archangel
Wed, 10-21-2009, 05:29 AM
Yeah it looks much better now

Also, i want a cookie :(

oyabun
Thu, 10-22-2009, 09:36 AM
Hello! New saki Sig and avatar!

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f260/oyabin21/sakiava.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f260/oyabin21/saki-1.jpg

Avatar given to me by shinta. I edited the sig from shinta's concept. The Red Kanji is saki and the green one is Oyabun. And oh my name is spelled "oyabun" not "oyabin". Like I stated in my sig. :) Comments are very much appreciated. :D

shinta|hikari
Thu, 10-22-2009, 09:42 AM
I personally really like the edits you made to the basic sig concept. The blue waves do well in adding colour and movement to the sig. It also matches the avatar as a bonus.

Buffalobiian
Thu, 10-22-2009, 09:49 AM
I like the colours/cuteness. It's a refreshing change from the more "serious" stuff we've been getting of late.

I think it's the simple use of lighting that does it.

shinta|hikari
Sat, 10-24-2009, 12:47 AM
New wallpaper from Seizon.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/konololicondomomewall.jpg

I made it with a black and white theme because I am lazy to match my sig.

Archangel
Sat, 10-24-2009, 06:57 AM
What does it say?

darkshadow
Sat, 10-24-2009, 08:00 AM
This lolicon something, I have no idea what domome means.

edit: it might mean this lolicon's grateful eyes.

shinta|hikari
Sat, 10-24-2009, 01:18 PM
"Kono Lolicon domome!!!" is a line that was popularized a while ago that basically says "You damn lolicons!!!"

More info. (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090129162619AAyr1RA)

Archangel
Mon, 10-26-2009, 11:44 AM
3 new sigs and current avatar

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/paulosergio96/sig3.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/paulosergio96/sig.gif

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/paulosergio96/ichaicharailgun315.jpg

What do you guys think?

Add:

I also started with this

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4237/97903443.jpg

I was thinking of adding some angel feathers along the sides that would stand out even more in the darkness and then maybe even add a small and not too intrusive line of text to the near right

Now... any ideas on how to do that? :/

shinta|hikari
Mon, 10-26-2009, 08:56 PM
I like the 2nd one best among the black and white ones. The image is balanced, and the text is cute. It just seems complete, especially because it makes use of the black and white style so well. I like the image used in the first one (especially how it is placed and fitted in the sig), but a colored version will be many times better. To be honest, the third one is simply not on par with the others.

Are you planning to remove the hands on that Hitagi one? Araragi is practically invisible there, so it might be a good idea to simply make it look like she is falling/floating. The feathers seem like a good idea. For the text, I would recommend using a vertical one on both sides, just to keep the symmetrical effect already present with the BG.

Archangel
Tue, 10-27-2009, 10:34 AM
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2572/bakemonogatarisig.jpg

In all honesty... this sucks right?

oyabun
Tue, 10-27-2009, 10:44 AM
I like your Idea. Maybe you could lessen the feathers a little bit, and tweak the opacity a little higher.. You can also put a mild glow in the feathers and make Senjougahara stand out more. :)

Archangel
Tue, 10-27-2009, 12:35 PM
How about this?

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2572/bakemonogatarisig.jpg

KrayZ33
Tue, 10-27-2009, 12:57 PM
I don't know, but shouldn't the guy (forgot his name) in the background be more visible?
it looks a bit weird because his hands stand out so much


I like the rest though

Archangel
Tue, 10-27-2009, 01:18 PM
Oh, that's completely intended

It's a bit of a joke on the show is all about Hitagi even though she's not on every episode

I'll also be adding text btw, just looking for the right font

Buffalobiian
Tue, 10-27-2009, 07:20 PM
How about this?

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2572/bakemonogatarisig.jpg

Is it intended to be dark? If not, may I suggest to play with the lighting a bit? Make it brighter and more surreal? Whenever I see that scene, I see it like a Goddess was descending from Heaven or something. Keep the features.

Getting rid of Araragi to make it look like she's floating was an idea I agree with, brought up by someone. (shinta?).

Archangel
Tue, 10-27-2009, 07:24 PM
The floating idea was all me, don't steal my props dawg O_o

I made it somewhat dark ( especially on the side ) so i could bring more atention to her and the feathers

shinta|hikari
Tue, 10-27-2009, 07:32 PM
While I like the idea behind the joke, to be honest I don't think anyone will get it. Maybe a text clue will work, like "Only a shadow of a hero..." or something to that effect.

Rather than having a foggy feathered effect for the whole thing, maybe a few clear feathers floating down may look better. It will seem like Hitagi lost her wings and fell. Right now, it seems a bit too cluttered, but you should note that I am biased towards more simple works, so it may be just me.

Upon Arch's (I definitely prefer Arch to Archie, since it sounds cooler) suggestion, I made 2 more versions of my sig and rotated them. I plan to make one more version later.

Here are all 3 that I am currently using:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/yinloli.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/loliisenough2.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/loliisenough.jpg

Buffalobiian
Tue, 10-27-2009, 07:34 PM
Niche is still my favourite among the three.

Archangel
Tue, 10-27-2009, 07:52 PM
I dunno, those hand-cuffs work quite well for me :p

And the idea behind that is that if people stare long enough to the sig they'll go "lol, i just noticed Araragi in the back" which would translate metaphorically to how Hitagi steals the thunder every time she's on screen

It's not that hard to get, but i guess i could add the text to the left:

A fallen angel...

And to the right:

... and some dude

shinta|hikari
Tue, 10-27-2009, 07:53 PM
@Buff - Yeah, the sig was kind of made for Niche so it fits her the best. The lighting, text and spacing seems a little off on the other two, but that cannot be helped since the idea relies on the uniformity of the BG and text.

@Arch - I like the text you proposed. It is light and funny, and has two lines for symmetrical text placing. The only problem is how to place it on the sig without making it seem out of place. I am personally lost as to how to do that. Maybe keeping it that way is better in the end.

EDIT: I already added the 4th shinobu sig to my loli series, plus a new avatar.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/shinobuavacopy.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/shinobuloli.jpg

Archangel
Sat, 11-07-2009, 03:47 PM
A draft for something i'm working on

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6007/zell.jpg

I hate the text. Should i maybe move the P3P to the right so i can do more in the left?

Ryllharu
Sat, 11-07-2009, 04:39 PM
Do you really need the text at all? The white/yellow stuff, not the logo.

I think if you left the logo where it is, but remove the rest of the text, the overall balance of the image would improve a lot. I'm a big proponent of negative space.

Archangel
Sat, 11-07-2009, 04:43 PM
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2858/p3p.jpg

Kinda looks too empty now

Ryllharu
Sat, 11-07-2009, 04:48 PM
That's not what I meant.

Pardon the exceptionally crude work:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1118/98736197.jpg

You can keep the logo small, and it adds an appropriate level of negative space. It doesn't need to get filled, it's balancing out everything else that is going on on the other side.

That leaves the open space, while your eyes get drawn toward the render in the middle-right. If you leave the text there full size, or the other text, it ends up as a distraction.

Sapphire
Sat, 11-07-2009, 05:55 PM
Ooh I love the whitish smear to the left of the moon!

RyougaZell
Sat, 11-07-2009, 07:55 PM
A draft for something i'm working on

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6007/zell.jpg

I hate the text. Should i maybe move the P3P to the right so i can do more in the left?

Actually I like the text. Specially because of the significance behind it.

Without it, it looks quite empty, even with a bigger or smaller logo.

Actually... maybe it would be better to discard the logo. It kinda seems... off.

Conserning the nature of the picture (Minato Arisato x Minako Arisato)... maybe a tarot card from Persona 3 would be more appropiate

Here you can find scans of them.

http://www.giantbomb.com/shin-megami-tensei-persona-3-fes/61-20683/tarot-cards/52-341978/

Archangel
Sat, 11-07-2009, 08:48 PM
Actually I like the text. Specially because of the significance behind it.

Without it, it looks quite empty, even with a bigger or smaller logo.

Actually... maybe it would be better to discard the logo. It kinda seems... off.

Conserning the nature of the picture (Minato Arisato x Minako Arisato)... maybe a tarot card from Persona 3 would be more appropiate

Here you can find scans of them.

http://www.giantbomb.com/shin-megami-tensei-persona-3-fes/61-20683/tarot-cards/52-341978/

I came with it myself :D

You got the double meaning behind it? The infinite possibilities behind the wild card, even though this couple shouldn't be possible. I also thought about "Love Fools".

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6007/zell.jpg

I'm happy how this one turned out, what do you think? Maybe i should steal this one too ;)

RyougaZell
Sat, 11-07-2009, 09:03 PM
The universe should be shutting down if this happened anyway. For they are one and the same... or twins. As you prefer.

The fool on the background is little visible though.

PS: Stolen. Thanks. Lol.

Ryllharu
Sat, 11-07-2009, 11:09 PM
Actually I like the text. Specially because of the significance behind it.

Without it, it looks quite empty, even with a bigger or smaller logo.
I guess it is a done deal now, but unless you have played the game (which you two obviously have) I think the effect of the words are completely lost, and it looks like just another block of crowding text.

It might boil down to separate schools of thought. I've always been of the mind that an image should be able to stand on its own without any exterior knowledge.

RyougaZell
Sat, 11-07-2009, 11:38 PM
Yeah, I guess so Ryll.

The guy is the main character of Persona 3, dubbed Arisato Minato. While the girl is the new main character in Persona 3 Portable, which posses the Butterly Effect idea of what if the MC was a girl. She is dubbed Arisato Minako by fans.

Their encounter shouldn't be possible... they are the one and the same... yet they aren't... they are also twins... and they aren't... and they posess the Fool Arcana, the Wild Card, which can either mean empty or full. Thus, the text.

Archangel
Sun, 11-08-2009, 11:14 AM
I guess it is a done deal now, but unless you have played the game (which you two obviously have) I think the effect of the words are completely lost, and it looks like just another block of crowding text.

It might boil down to separate schools of thought. I've always been of the mind that an image should be able to stand on its own without any exterior knowledge.

The whole sig loses meaning out of context, Ryu

The render, the text, the background, the logo , they're all there for a reason.

Ryllharu
Sun, 11-08-2009, 01:39 PM
The whole sig loses meaning our of context Ryu

The render, the text, the background, the logo , they're all there for a reason.I get what you mean thanks to RZ's explanation, but I generally don't think a sig image needs text aside from the user's nick.

To pick on a convenient example, most of RZs sigs are half a wall of text, and half a render. It depends on the philosophical path you ascribe to. While you and RZ clearly don't see a problem with that, I think that a block of text will always detract from the render itself.

You can put whatever text you want outside of the image. That's just a caption. Captions (or titles) never detract from an image, they serve to enhance the image, or drive the viewer down a path the creators wants to convey. That's also not to say you can't have any text. I think a line or two in a small font can really enhance an image and send the message you want it to.

When text dominates the image, at least in my case, my eyes are drawn away from the image, and that becomes the background, rather than the focus.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6889/darksakurasig.png
[F/SN game spoilerific.]

Take this one I made some time ago for another forum (hence the large dimension). I liked it when I made it, but upon reflection the typeface kind of sucks and because of the complete lack of visual balance, your eyes go all over the place. It's only saving grace is the focal point right in the middle, where the light/dark contrast forces you to look. Unfortunately, neither of the renders are there, so it doesn't accomplish a great deal.

But the text is still a small percentage of the space in the image, and itself doesn't distract the eye. I think text should serve to enhance the meaning behind the image, but the renders themselves are the far more fascinating part of the total presentation. The text only need be read once, and if it is there at all, the viewer will read it.

It's the same reason you don't want too much going on in the background, because it kills the focus on the rest of it. (My example has that problem.)

Archangel
Sun, 11-08-2009, 01:47 PM
It's a matter of opinion
You see text as an addition to a sig who is supposed to have as it's main focus the render.

I feel that there isn't always a need for 1 single focus, but that all elements of the sig can work in a manner that will draw the viewers attention in its own way. That's also the reason why, as long as i'm not overcrowding the sig, i like to keep dead space to a minimum

By the way, isn't that sig kinda spoily outside the fsn game thread?

Ryllharu
Sun, 11-08-2009, 02:04 PM
It's a matter of opinion
...
as long as i'm not overcrowding the sig, i like to keep dead space to a minimum

By the way, isn't that sig kinda spoily outside the fsn game thread?
Noted and edited. I sorta figured it had been long enough now given that Fate Unlimited Codes has a western version and she is in that form in it, but it is better to play it safe.

Indeed, we'll have to agree to disagree.

RyougaZell
Sun, 11-08-2009, 08:31 PM
Showing off the avatar Arch made for me. Woot.

Archangel
Sun, 11-08-2009, 08:34 PM
The God of Death never looked more adorable

RyougaZell
Mon, 11-09-2009, 08:52 PM
Indeed.
It will be a least a few years until I change this avatar.

Archangel
Mon, 11-09-2009, 08:55 PM
Wow, years?

Maybe i should have pimped it out more O_o

Archangel
Wed, 11-18-2009, 12:30 PM
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1020/wallpapercx.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1020/wallpapercx.jpg)

Wallpaper i redrew myself, like it?

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Thu, 12-03-2009, 02:44 PM
you redrew? tablet or scanned?

heres a little collage like wall i just finished of beatles/dylan... featuring deadhead bears

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/RockLee89/beats-1.jpg

shinta|hikari
Wed, 12-09-2009, 07:46 AM
New set. Ame from Denpa Teki na Kanojo. It is my current.

The avatar I chose is intentionally simple to emphasize how cool/cute Ame looks underneath the fringe. Yes, for those who have not seen the show, the girl in my avatar and sig are the same person.

Buffalobiian
Wed, 12-09-2009, 08:20 AM
From what you've said, I'm guessing it takes one to have seen the show in part or whole to fully appreciate Ame's depiction.

The sig is nice as a standalone artwork. I like angle, which isn't uncommonly used in anime, but one that you don't see in sigs too frequently.

Archangel
Wed, 12-09-2009, 08:27 AM
Funny, i actually had that same series on my favorites with the intention of downloading it later

Can i assume you recommend it? Also, how dark is it? I ask because sexual abuse is one of the tags in anidb.

shinta|hikari
Wed, 12-09-2009, 08:47 AM
Violence, Sex, Yanderes, all masterfully depicted.

Denpa Teki na Kanojo episode 1 blew my mind when I watched it.

Then episode 2 wiped the floor with my brains.

Those are both compliments by the way.

It has intelligent yet absurdly eccentric characters. The story is also suspenseful, mysterious and can get you off guard. Great artwork is also a plus, since a lot of the more graphic and violent scenes will simply not be the same with mediocre art. The main male character is also quite strong, something very positive for those who despise weaklings.

And then, there is Ame.

I cannot recommend something more.

Buffalobiian
Wed, 12-09-2009, 08:52 AM
lol. Only after reading the above two posts did I realise I have actually watched this.

I thought the avatar was slightly familiar, but thought nothing of it. (edit: no wonder, only 1 episode has been subbed.)

Archangel
Wed, 12-09-2009, 09:44 AM
I assume the new set is because episode 2 just came out right?

Ass... you're lucky you understand japanese >_>

RyougaZell
Wed, 12-09-2009, 11:53 AM
Violence, Sex, Yanderes, all masterfully depicted.

Denpa Teki na Kanojo episode 1 blew my mind when I watched it.

Then episode 2 wiped the floor with my brains.

Those are both compliments by the way.

It has intelligent yet absurdly eccentric characters. The story is also suspenseful, mysterious and can get you off guard. Great artwork is also a plus, since a lot of the more graphic and violent scenes will simply not be the same with mediocre art. The main male character is also quite strong, something very positive for those who despise weaklings.

And then, there is Ame.

I cannot recommend something more.

I have to check this...

Archangel
Sat, 01-09-2010, 11:00 PM
As a preemptive review on Shinta's latest set i have to say that it looks somewhat rushed

I believe that this latest loli's effect left him unable to use both hands when creating the set, and it suffered for it

shinta|hikari
Sun, 01-10-2010, 12:09 AM
Definitely rushed.

Very few good pictures are out, and I don't really have time to edit them much.

I like the avatar, but I didn't even remove Akira's hair LOL. I just wanted to be the first to have a bund set (partially because of your comment in another thread), then when I find something better I will change them.

EDIT: New Tepes sig. It looks simple, but that doesn't mean I didn't spend time on it. A bit of cleaning and colour adjustment, but what really took me a bit is sig placement. That, and trying a ton of different fonts and font placements before realizing it just looks better without any. I also tried reducing the sig size horizontally to minimize the BG space, but it took away the BG and foreground contrast so I opted for this version.

Buffalobiian
Sun, 01-10-2010, 02:53 AM
Mina's cheeks look weird in the sig shinta.

Archangel
Sun, 01-10-2010, 03:13 AM
Why not just use the one from the website?

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4411/vampirebund.jpg

shinta|hikari
Sun, 01-10-2010, 05:55 AM
I considered using it for the 2nd one, but decided to use the one for my current instead because of the colouring style. I wanted it to have a soft look more reminiscent of the manga instead of the crisp version in the anime.

@Buff - I edited her cheeks. Does it look better this time?

EDIT: I also updated the avatar colours to match the sig a bit more.

Buffalobiian
Sun, 01-10-2010, 06:54 AM
@Buff - I edited her cheeks. Does it look better this time?

Heh, it's hard to say when you just refer to your "current" without posting previous versions with the [IMG] tag :p

But I do believe it's better, since I remember that the other one stood out to me a lot in a bad way. My issue was more to do with her right (our left) cheek, but I think narrowing it down too much may make her look uncute. (Narrowing it down was my initial thought). I guess since you're going for a manga look, the art may be a bit inconsistent too.

Nice Work.

Alhuin
Fri, 01-15-2010, 04:10 PM
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2009/361/a/d/Mew__Winter_Sonata__by_Alhuin.jpg

I made this for my girlfriend. She loves Mew, and her favourite colours are blue and silver (hence the text). The "winter" feel was my own idea, but I think it works. This could always be better I guess, especially the text, but she thought it was cute enough. My name isn't in this one, as I was going to put hers, but she hasn't gotten back to me on what name to use.

EDIT: Also, not sure if I ever posted this one

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/015/f/8/Gaara_of_the_Sand_by_Alhuin.jpg

Archangel
Fri, 01-15-2010, 05:51 PM
You misspelled Gaara

And i think the mew sig would look much better if you removed the snow effect

Alhuin
Fri, 01-15-2010, 07:52 PM
Heh, completely overlooked that. I'll update it soon.

As for the snow effect, if I remove it, the background/foreground just feels too... plain.

Archangel
Fri, 01-15-2010, 08:26 PM
Perhaps but i think it would bring more attention to the render and make it overall better

How about 2 more versions for comparison? One without the snow and another one also without the snow and with slightly less glow.

Alhuin
Fri, 01-15-2010, 09:00 PM
I just decided to make one more version with no snow/less glow. I actually thought there might be too much glow on the first one anyways.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Alhuin/Sigs/WinterMewnosnowlessglow.jpg

Photobucket has been rather crappy to me for some reason now; it reduces the quality on everything I upload it seems. Also, one of the reasons I wanted to keep snow is that the render wasn't the best of quality, so it kind-of drew attention away from the minor details.

Archangel
Fri, 01-15-2010, 10:03 PM
Just change the settings to no optimization

Honestly i think all you need now is a simpler stroke for a border and you've got yourself a winner

I'd also try to make it 400x100 but that's just my personal taste

Alhuin
Sat, 01-16-2010, 07:21 PM
Meh, I simplified the border and made a 400x100 version and it looked alright. I'm not worried about posting it cause the person I made it for likes it without the changes, so I think I'm just going to move on.

However, speaking of 400x100 sigs, it seems to be rather hard for me to make one good enough to use as a sig for the forums. I'm having trouble working with that small amount of space, haha.

Archangel
Sat, 01-16-2010, 07:49 PM
It's a matter of getting used to it, these days if i work on anything bigger when making a sig i never know what to do with the extra space

shinta|hikari
Wed, 01-20-2010, 09:49 AM
New set. Comments and suggestions please. Disclaimer: The text on the sig is intentionally made to be hard to read.

Archangel
Wed, 01-20-2010, 03:56 PM
Wtf? No more lolis???

Lucifus
Wed, 01-20-2010, 06:03 PM
Excellent set man. So much so that I actually had to login and comment.

My one issue, is the hair in the bottom right of the avatar is a little too dark.
If you can and are willing, ya should lighten her abit.

Perfect set. A+:cool:

shinta|hikari
Thu, 01-21-2010, 04:57 AM
Thanks for the kind comments. I see what you mean about the hair. I will fix it when I have time.

Buffalobiian
Thu, 01-21-2010, 10:09 PM
It does look nice, and I like the mysterious feel of the sig. What show is this from

Marik
Thu, 01-21-2010, 10:15 PM
It's from Kimi ni Todoke.

It's a great set and a great choice. It's nice to see Kurumi getting some love.

shinta|hikari
Fri, 01-22-2010, 01:04 AM
While I do think it is unfair that very few people like Ume Kurumi (or more like almost everyone hates her), I chose her for my set not because of pity, but because I have grown to like her character a lot. At the very least, I hoped using her as a sig would advertise her appeal, and maybe even promote Kimi ni Todoke at the same time.

Archangel
Fri, 01-22-2010, 02:50 AM
It's not like i hate her, but Sawako overshadows her in such a manner that i don't have much of a opinion on her character at all

Anyway as for some criticism, how about getting rid of that red line on the right of the sig? I'd also apply some blur followed ( maybe ) by some very light sharpening but honestly i think the grain works too.

shinta|hikari
Fri, 01-22-2010, 04:29 AM
I lightened the bottom left corner of my avatar to make the shading more uniform, and removed the obtrusive line on the sig. I hope it looks better now. Thanks for the feedback as always.

Ryllharu
Sun, 02-28-2010, 02:28 PM
Since I've been asked a few times, I switched my avatar from the lovely Miyo.

The character is Shigwen (or I've also seen it as Sigyun) from Break Blade (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=13176).

Larger cleaned image below:
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/797/shigwenclean.jpg

Buffalobiian
Mon, 03-01-2010, 03:17 AM
Love her eyes/gaze/stance/hood. Break Blade aye? Might check her that out then. :D

edit: anime adaptation announced? Guess I'll hold.

Alhuin
Sun, 03-14-2010, 09:23 PM
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/068/e/c/Lily_Saber__Sunset__by_Alhuin.jpg

I started this one in October (2009), but didn't put the finishing touches on it until this past week. I know the render isn't that fresh since it's part of the rotating banners at the top of the page, but I really liked it and wanted to do a sig with it. This will be last of my "glow effect" styled sigs for awhile; I've over-exhausted it now (though, at the time of creating this one I hadn't nearly as many as I do now).

Comments are always welcome. My name is her collar, in case anyone can't see it, or sees something but can't make out what it is.

I should also have some newer sigs posted soon (including, hopefully, one to use for the forums, finally).

Alhuin
Mon, 03-22-2010, 04:05 PM
No love for my Saber sig, huh?
Well, here is my newest set. It's my current. The sig took me hours to complete, as the only thing I did was take the original image and manipulate it to what you see here. Text and some black paint strokes were the only things I added. The ava took a decent amount of time because I went through 3 different images before I settled on this one. I tried to colour match as best as I could, but it looks like the ava is slightly "bluer"...

Here is the original version of the sig: http://alhuin.deviantart.com/art/Jace-Beleren-157801504
I had to shrink it a bit to fit the forums.

Also, sorry for the double post, but I couldn't recall if editing a post would mark it as new post.

Buffalobiian
Mon, 03-22-2010, 04:49 PM
No love for my Saber sig, huh?

I meant to reply when I first saw it but I totally forgot about it.

Anyway, the one thing that came to my attention was the light on Saber's head. It looks a little out of place. (I think it's because the depiction makes us unsure of what and where the lightsource is. I'm guessing it's the sun.)

As for your new set, I'm intrigued with the old-style art that the entire sig gives off. The amount of text seems to walk all over that though. Is there a way to shorten or lessen it?

Right now it looks like it's "on top" of the sig more than "integrated and is a part of" the sig. (PS I'm making it sound worse that it probably is. I thought maybe a bit less text would look better)

Alhuin
Mon, 03-22-2010, 06:06 PM
Hmm, I guess I can go in and see what it (the Saber sig) would look like without the glow effect. At the time of creation, it was something new I was using, so I put it in about everything, lol. It is supposed to give a "sunset" feel though.

As for my current, I too thought the text could be done a little better. Unfortunately, after several attempts to change/reposition/shorten/etc. I was unable to settle on anything that looked half as decent as it does now. In a sense, the way it is now, it isn't necessarily supposed to "integrate" with the sig; it's supposed to stick out just as much as the render (a style I have seen used on several sigs on the forum I originally made this for)... so I'm not sure what else I can do. I'm always thinking though.

shinta|hikari
Mon, 03-22-2010, 07:15 PM
Try changing the font colour to something lighter, then move it to the left or right side and use two lines instead of one so that it doesn't go over the render. The lighter colour should make it stick out like you want, and the placing would curb the slapped on look.

Alhuin
Tue, 03-23-2010, 11:30 AM
Alright, I'll work on it a bit later today when I can think of better text to use (something smaller). It needs to convey the thoughts/ideas of the character/image used, so I'm having a hard time thinking of something clever.

KitKat
Tue, 03-23-2010, 06:56 PM
Love the new style! This is a gorgeous sig. I agree with everyone else's comments that the text could use some work. I think perhaps if you place it so that it looks like it's in the same plane as the render instead of in front of it, it will be less jarring. Maybe make use of your space to the right and left, if you split the sentence up into two parts? Right now the focal point of your sig is the face, but the text changes the focal point and drags the viewer's eyes down the the bottom edge. I would aim for balancing the text so that your sig is not unnecessarily "weighted" focally too far away from your main focal point.

Alhuin
Sun, 03-28-2010, 01:08 PM
Sorry I haven't posted an update yet. I just got a new computer (my old one basically crapped out on me) and have been in the process of customizing it to my liking, and transferring all my files.

The screen on this thing is so much brighter than my old one, and it makes my current set look brighter to me, so I will probably try to darken it some, as well as adjust the text, whenever I sit down and work in PS again.

I'm glad people like the idea though, and that the general consensus is the text is throwing it off. Makes me realize how much I have grown since my early days in order to produce a quality sig, and that, in turn, makes me feel good as an artist. So, thank you all.

Votkrath
Sun, 03-28-2010, 05:41 PM
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/068/e/c/Lily_Saber__Sunset__by_Alhuin.jpg

I started this one in October (2009), but didn't put the finishing touches on it until this past week. I know the render isn't that fresh since it's part of the rotating banners at the top of the page, but I really liked it and wanted to do a sig with it. This will be last of my "glow effect" styled sigs for awhile; I've over-exhausted it now (though, at the time of creating this one I hadn't nearly as many as I do now).

Comments are always welcome. My name is her collar, in case anyone can't see it, or sees something but can't make out what it is.

I should also have some newer sigs posted soon (including, hopefully, one to use for the forums, finally).

Yeah, as Buffalobiian said, the light might be a bit out of place but overall a very well done sig, I really like it! I especially like the overall "water painting"-kinda look of it.

Alhuin
Mon, 03-29-2010, 05:21 PM
Okay, I finally did some updating to my Saber sig:

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/088/e/8/Lily_Saber__Sunset__version_2_by_Alhuin.jpg

I removed the "glow effect" and added a new colour gradient filter to try and make it more crisp/vivid. I also moved my name off her collar to the bottom left, in my most recent font choice. The name movement was kind of last minute, so I may mess with it again, but let me know what you think of this update.

As for my current set, I'm still working with the text. I can't think of anything that is short enough and "cool" enough to imply the feel of the image that can fit on one line without going over the render. I hate to make it two lines cause it just doesn't feel right. I'll keep working at it though and post something when I can.

shinta|hikari
Mon, 03-29-2010, 07:09 PM
That saber sig is very cool. The lack of the glow effect allows us to see the background, which for its simplicity still complements the render very well. I definitely think this is a significant improvement from the first version.

For the text on the other sig, maybe you can keep the content, and just remove the border and place it at the bottom center? Maybe that will make it less intrusive yet still be easy enough to see.

Buffalobiian
Mon, 03-29-2010, 08:25 PM
Yeah, I like the Saber this time too. The glare before made it hard to look at her.

Alhuin
Wed, 03-31-2010, 01:38 PM
Thanks, I'm glad you all like the updated version. I, too, like my newer version much better than the old.

I finally tried messing around with my current set. Changed the text and moved it some. Let me know if this is an improvement or not.

KitKat
Wed, 03-31-2010, 01:46 PM
I absolutely love the improvements on the Saber sig. Totally gorgeous. Though, even with you saying where you put your name, I can't see it at all. You might want to make it a little more visible.

Your current sig is an improvement, but now I think it's weighted too far to the left, which makes all the empty space on the right seem weird. Though, you could easily compensate for that by shifting your render to the right, or by cropping it from the right hand side to take the empty space down a bit.

Archangel
Wed, 03-31-2010, 01:49 PM
I sort of have an idea, can i have the psd so i can show you Alhuin?

Alhuin
Wed, 03-31-2010, 01:59 PM
I see where the sig feels weighted now, however the suggestion about shifting the render is impossible as it isn't a render.

The original image (http://www.wizards.com/magic/images/mtgcom/arcana1000/1608_JVC_image.jpg) I used when making this sig. I didn't render it out, I simply copied it several times, layer masked it, erased what I didn't need, moved various layers around to make the background look the way it did, multiplied some layers to make the edges "spread"... needless to say, the layers on this sig are so out of place, that I can't simply just shift it.

As for cropping from the right side... I rather like the way the right side looks, so I'd prefer not to destroy any of that. I'll have to think of another way to fix it.

Anyways, with my Saber sig, my name isn't written in English, it's in the font that I used in my current set (at the top right), so if you're looking for "Alhuin" you won't see it. But, I probably do need to mess with it a little bit. I'm glad you like the improvement though. And thanks for the suggestions for my current set.

EDIT: @Archie: Does your idea consist of cropping the sig, or attempting to move the render? If so, as I explained above, that won't work. But if it's something else, I can send you the file to take a look at.

Archangel
Wed, 03-31-2010, 02:30 PM
Here's my idea

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8167/86764174.png

I thought it was a waste to not use the fire, and with this position you have less wasted space while still leaving enough for the text you want to add

Alhuin
Wed, 03-31-2010, 04:58 PM
I like your idea, but I didn't really want to keep the fire (or any indication of it) in my version. It was supposed to be straight blue(ish). Not to mention I hate the way his hand is portrayed, so I didn't want it in the picture either.

I don't know, I might play around and start from scratch and try something similar to that with fire, but manipulate it to the extent of my current. I'm kinda getting bored with it, lol. I'm working on several other pieces that interest me more.

Like learning the pen tool...

Anyways, thanks for the idea; I definitely like it, and might use it... it just doesn't fit what I currently want it to portray. How is my text change though (the wording)? I tried for something smaller that still "fit" the image.

Also, I think I asked this once upon a time, but don't remember what anyone said: I need an image uploading site that isn't photobucket or imageshack. PB tends to lessen the quality of my uploads, and I hate the adds that IS has.

Archangel
Wed, 03-31-2010, 05:02 PM
Set photobucket to no optimization and get ad block for imageshack

Alhuin
Wed, 03-31-2010, 05:23 PM
I browsed PB for about 20 minutes and wasn't able to find an option to disable/set optimization... is it something you choose when you upload a picture?

Buffalobiian
Wed, 03-31-2010, 07:55 PM
The current sig does look weighted to the side, but I still prefer it over the first one since the text doesn't walk all over it.

Alhuin
Thu, 04-01-2010, 11:51 AM
Version 3:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Alhuin/Sigs/Jacever3400x100.jpg

Yes? No? Still feel weighted? Too much distraction from the focal point? I moved my "name" to try and balance the text, but it looks tacky, so not sure what I'm going to do about that.

Archangel
Thu, 04-01-2010, 12:00 PM
It still looks like he's making a dunk

If you're set on using that pose i would center him and split the text in 2 parts

Buffalobiian
Thu, 04-01-2010, 08:44 PM
It might be my monitor, since V3 looks way too dark.

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Thu, 04-01-2010, 08:57 PM
text is way better in your latest one. well most of it, not the text next to him.

Alhuin
Sat, 04-03-2010, 12:20 AM
It still looks like he's making a dunk

If you're set on using that pose i would center him and split the text in 2 parts

Now that you say it like that, I can totally see where it would look like that that. But I don't think the majority of people will see it that way (I could be wrong). And I'm not sure what you mean about splitting the text into two parts, since it kind of already is.


It might be my monitor, since V3 looks way too dark.

It's probably not your monitor, but I honestly didn't make the sig darker. I actually, slightly, lightened the focal area, but I lowered the opacity on the text so as not to draw too much attention to it. The only other thing I did was darken a bit in the area between his arm and head, because it felt to bright for the rest of the sig.


text is way better in your latest one. well most of it, not the text next to him.

I'm glad (most of) the text looks better, however I felt the text flowing around his body would be a great addition. Why do you not like it?

All in all though, I think I'm taking a break from it for now. I've been reading up on some tuts for different styles and I'm working on a lot of different things right now. I probably won't even finish half the ones I've started.

...I figured my posting here would inspire some other PS users to start working on things; try and revive this thread. Kage, where's all your work been? Used to pump out sigs left and right back in the day.

Archangel
Sat, 04-03-2010, 12:23 AM
Check my out, i got some new threads yo

Current set, thoughts?

Buffalobiian
Sat, 04-03-2010, 02:48 AM
Check my out, i got some new threads yo

Current set, thoughts?

I like them both. Shichika is very out of character in that sig though :p.


Criticisms:

I believe the strikingly difference in art style between the sig and the avatar makes for a feel best described as "confusing", though I like them both separately.

And the background for the avatar seems too complex IMO. That in itself isn't much of a problem if you can find a way to make the two characters stand out more.

Archangel
Sat, 04-03-2010, 10:25 AM
Criticisms:

I believe the strikingly difference in art style between the sig and the avatar makes for a feel best described as "confusing", though I like them both separately.

And the background for the avatar seems too complex IMO. That in itself isn't much of a problem if you can find a way to make the two characters stand out more.

Nothing i can do about that, there are too few katanagatari fanarts out there

I don't necessarily agree with you on that point, I'd like to hear some more opinions

Edit: A few alternatives:

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6708/frostiikatanagatari02hd.png

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6708/frostiikatanagatari02hd.png

Alhuin
Sat, 04-03-2010, 11:25 AM
Personally, I don't think any sig or avatar is complete without a border. When I first started in PS, I made some sigs without a border, and the pros around here (at the time) said it made a sig look tacky and, well, unfinished. So I've grown up on the mentality. It's nothing against your set or your style, just my personal view.

With that being said, I really like the avatar. I'm a fan of images that have the (focal) character looking off into the distance (or at least, not straight at you) but still being able to see their face (or most of it), so that image hits home with me. Like Bill said, the background seems a bit complex. I would suggest creating a new layer above everything, going to image > apply image (keeping settings as they are) then get out the smudge tool (or going to filter > lignify, or filter > distort > wave) and basically mess that layer up. Then get a soft brush eraser and erase everything over the focal. Something like that might bring it out a bit more.

I'm not a really a fan of the alternatives, though I haven't seen the series, so I can't say how well they "fit" their personas.

For the sig, I like it as well, but it feels washed out. I'm not very good with image enhancement, but mostly what I always do is copy the render layer and gaussian blur at 10 pixels, then set to hard light and lower the opacity some to get rid of most of the glow. It works great for darker images, but lighter ones tend to just get even brighter.

You probably already know most of those techniques, just posting them just in case.

oyabun
Mon, 04-05-2010, 06:42 AM
Arc, what a cool sig and avatar. Maybe its time for me to make a new one.

Archangel
Mon, 04-05-2010, 07:52 AM
Arc, what a cool sig and avatar. Maybe its time for me to make a new one.
Thanks :)

You shouldn't force it, just wait for an anime you'll love as much or more as you did Saki

Alhuin
Mon, 04-05-2010, 06:19 PM
Trying out some tuts and different styles. I'm not really liking a lot of the results, and I still haven't found a good tut on working with the pen tool, but here is an unfinished work that I thought was pretty decent.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Alhuin/Sigs/Ikarosunfinished.jpg

The background is basically a smudge background; there was no brushing in this. I know it gives off a really simplistic feel, but like I said, it's unfinished, and might even be scrapped. But aside from the empty space (and the horribad text), I just wanted some comments on the feel of this.

Buffalobiian
Tue, 04-06-2010, 03:10 AM
n working with the pen tool, but here is an unfinished work that I thought was pretty decent.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Alhuin/Sigs/Ikarosunfinished.jpg

The background is basically a smudge background; there was no brushing in this. I know it gives off a really simplistic feel, but like I said, it's unfinished, and might even be scrapped. But aside from the empty space (and the horribad text), I just wanted some comments on the feel of this.

WHAT? No way?! I like this :o

Sure it's unfinished, but I love the dreamy feel, and that render's good.

I'm not sure how well this will turn out, but it came into my mind, so I might as well spill it out. How would that sig look with the render put to the right? How would it look with the render still centered, but made smaller?

I'm trying to rationalise the "slightly off" feeling I'm getting from it, and it may be because having such a large, closeup pic smack center stops it from "blending in" as well as it could have.

Alhuin
Tue, 04-06-2010, 11:13 AM
Version 2:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Alhuin/Sigs/Ikarosunfinished2.jpg

Again, ignore the horribad text, I was just trying to fill empty space at the moment (I actually am not sure what to do with text on this one).

Anyways, I took both your suggestions. I made the render smaller and moved it more to the right. How are you liking it now?

EDIT: Also, I don't think I could really scrap this. Ikaros is just too cute.

Lucifus
Tue, 04-06-2010, 11:32 AM
I believe the 'slighty off' feeling your getting is due to the smudged render on the left.

Excellent and simple, but I think you should bring the render to the forefront without smudging the hair. It would stand out and contrast perfectly, and maybe add a slight lightsource behind the render.

My 2 cents. :D

Alhuin
Tue, 04-06-2010, 12:31 PM
The tutorial(s) I was pulling from had all the renders obscured slightly by a smudged/brushed foreground, as opposed to having the render fully visible. The idea was to "blend" most everything in except the focal point. I can try erasing part of the smudging on the left side of the render and see if that helps any.

Buffalobiian
Tue, 04-06-2010, 06:45 PM
Does that tutorial have any good examples that you could post so we can see how good its effect could potentially be?

I can't really say if V2 is better or not. I can't even put my finger on what it is now. After reading Lucifus' lightsource idea, I'm curious to see how that would turn out too. It might even make the "wasted space" more interesting.

Alhuin
Tue, 04-06-2010, 06:56 PM
Well, the smudging tutorial is this one (http://www.phstudios.com/forums/index.php?/topic/145-blank-stare-tutorial/). Obviously, that has C4D renders and various other tasks that I wasn't interested in at the moment, but the basic idea is what I took from it. As for the other tutorial with smudged/brushed/erased parts of the render... it was actually one Lucifus posted on one of the Tutorial thread pages... but it seems to have been taken down, so I can't point it out. Pretty much every tutorial I've read over on Animerender has the render being obscured by something in some way. In fact, when I posted my Lily Saber ver. 2 sig over there, it was criticized as being too plain and simple, and that the render sticks out too much. So I'm just going by what looks good to me at the moment, and think it looks better partly smudged over. I'll try messing around with it at some point though, since, like I said, it wasn't meant to be a final sig, just the idea I was playing around with and wanted some feedback.

I am working on another sig featuring the same style though... maybe it will turn out a bit better.

I need some more work with text though...

Lucifus
Tue, 04-06-2010, 07:07 PM
I think people honestly criticize work like that because they think you havn't put enough work into the signature; like you simply stole a awesome looking render and threw it onto a mediocore background.

Thats bs, renders look bloody fucking amazing, and they're the centerpiece of your artwork.

Every one in a while its nice to add some kool effects to enhance it or blend it with the background, but if you have a brand spanking render, show it off.

shinta|hikari
Tue, 04-06-2010, 08:20 PM
I agree. Sometimes doing too much will ruin a perfectly good render. Text is can be unnecessary at times as well.

Still, this does not excuse skimping out on a bit more effort if it could make the sig that much better.

Archangel
Tue, 04-06-2010, 08:27 PM
In other news, i just saw Luci's list of "currently watching" anime and loled a bit

KitKat
Tue, 04-06-2010, 09:25 PM
And just to add, every forum will have its own 'norms' of what it considers a good sig, shaped by the more influential members of the community. But at the end of the day, you're not factory-producing a product, you're creating art. You might get a lot of varied or even contradictory suggestions, but at the end of the day this is YOUR art, and the end result that makes you the happiest is the one you should go with.

In terms of your most recent sig, I prefer v1. The only thing that I find weird about it is that because there is no blending at the top but a lot of blending at the bottom, it evokes a decapitated floating head at first glance. I think making the bottom right side of her collar a little more defined would fix that pretty quickly. Otherwise, it looks pretty great to me.

Lucifus
Tue, 04-06-2010, 10:56 PM
It has been a very very long time.

Please be gentle, though I think it turned out well for the hiatus I've been on.

Here we have the original render.


Super Spoiler Alert!























Original (http://i41.tinypic.com/dqrcsg.png)


Signature - Naruto in one of his yet to be acquired forms in the anime (http://i44.tinypic.com/6rhht5.png)

shinta|hikari
Tue, 04-06-2010, 10:59 PM
Looks awesome, and definitely has your signature style.

Archangel
Tue, 04-06-2010, 11:05 PM
Dude, spoilerfuckingrific!! Totally against the rules of the forum, you should remove it

That said it's pretty awesome, i wish i had your knack for text execution

shinta|hikari
Tue, 04-06-2010, 11:48 PM
I totally forgot that it was a spoiler as well. Sorry I couldn't warn you earlier.

Lucifus has always been great with text, and I learned a lot from his style.

Lucifus
Wed, 04-07-2010, 12:23 AM
Trying something a bit more simple; these actually aren't the original, but the blond renders are just striking with the background, so I gave up on making a new Saya signature with this one.

I couldn't get the lighting right with the render, just too dark; not that these are perfect, but certainly better.

Made the background myself; and tried 3 renders; accepted these three.

Comments?

http://i40.tinypic.com/14xgjfb.png



http://i42.tinypic.com/2ykx8v4.png



http://i39.tinypic.com/120gy6s.png




Edit: Needed to work on my lighting; my currents the outcome.

Alhuin
Wed, 04-07-2010, 11:31 AM
Wow, a lot of discussion happened while I was sleeping.

Anyways, I know that every forum has their idea of what is normal for a sig, and what makes one good, and that ultimately the end result should be something I like... and I also know that I don't need to cover the render in every sig I make... I don't know about the text comment though... I feel like every sig deserves some sort of text... unless you have a big enough render/small enough space to not warrant any free space.

The main reasons I posted the unfinished pieces were to get feedback on the style (smudged background/smudging over the render) and, I guess feedback on the render as well (it takes a good render to make a good sig). I have gotten feedback and it seems that the general consensus is the background and render are nice, but the smudging over the render isn't to taste here. Not sure how much anyone will like my next sig then, since I have done the same thing. But when it is finished, I will post it for feedback as well.

I never intended to finish the Ikaros sig, it was just practice. Though I hope to refine it eventually... I want to display my own Ikaros everywhere!

As for Luci... Your Naruto sig is very nice. I didn't even realize the art was spoiler either (I don't remember that far back in the manga), and the background makes it flow really nice. It looks like for text you typed in white, then set to soft light with a lower opacity black stroke. Am I right? If so, I do that as well sometimes, but it never comes out as good as that one. For your other three... I feel like you can do better, to be honest. The first two renders seem really choppy. And I feel like the last one is suffering from the problem Kit said mine was (the floating, decapitated head). I'm guessing by "made the background (your)self" you started with a sky blue canvas and brushed the cloud effects? Or just used a cloud brush? Either way, it's nice. It feels a bit underwhelming though with nothing in the top half of the sigs (except for the Saber one, though I can't figure out what that is). Your current set is much better. The lighting fits really well. Though with that background, it's hard for me to imagine where the light would coming from.

Keep up the good work though.

Also, I hate typing so much/long that I get logged out of the forums =/...

Lucifus
Wed, 04-07-2010, 11:37 AM
Ya, I made those three really quickly; spent a good bit of effort on the last one though, its my favorite. Has alot of empty space, and the render isnt very defined (Did that bit on purpose, prefer it to the original render)

It just looks awesome to me.

Archangel
Wed, 04-07-2010, 11:39 AM
Shouldn't it be Assassin's Creed?

Alhuin
Wed, 04-07-2010, 11:44 AM
I have to agree, a head coming out of the clouds does look pretty awesome, and in comparison to the other two, I like it the best (it's simplicity and the text are really fantastic). I think it's just his overly long neck that is throwing me off.

Oh, and that it feels blended in too much at the bottom... but I guess that's on purpose to make it look like it's coming out the cloud.

Lucifus
Wed, 04-07-2010, 11:50 AM
Thanks for the heads up AA.

@ Alhuin; btw, thanks for reviving this super dead FanArt section.

Ya, sky blue canvas and brushed the clouds in.

I think I'm going to redo that last one, because I think it could become something along the lines of 'perfect', at least, to the idea that I have in my head.

Also, its not that I don't like smudging renders, because believe me, if you look at my tutorials, you'll catch me smudging the hell out of them to reduce choppiness.

Its just that in the Ikaros signature, it really did give off a feel of floating head, because not even her neck was shown, and even some of her hair was cut out.

To me it just felt like there was half a floating head in a pretty awesome background.

The smudging can stay, just to a lesser extent at the bottom corners.

More:

Playing with the same glowy background style; and believe me, It wasn't until I was just about done that I realised the render had red on it.

It took me by such surprise I went all the way back in my history thinking I had accidentally done something to cause it.

http://i40.tinypic.com/w13gvm.png

darkshadow
Wed, 04-07-2010, 12:26 PM
That's an awesome barret fan art, nice sig overall.

edit:
ok according to archangel I should swipe that sig, soooo could you put "DS" in there somewhere? >_>

Lucifus
Wed, 04-07-2010, 12:34 PM
Shes all yours mate.

http://i43.tinypic.com/5n3dde.png

http://i40.tinypic.com/206zh4m.png

Archangel
Wed, 04-07-2010, 12:36 PM
Quick Luci, make an avatar too so we can rid of that half assed Gaara crop :O

darkshadow
Wed, 04-07-2010, 01:11 PM
Thx a bunch ;D

Alhuin
Wed, 04-07-2010, 07:01 PM
@ Alhuin; btw, thanks for reviving this super dead FanArt section.

That was my goal. Glad I (seemingly) accomplished it.

Very nice Barret sig. For the render... was there a set of all the FFVII characters, or was that the only one? Anyways, I noticed the red offhand, just like you mentioned. If you really wanted to, you could probably blend that in/clone stamp it away. But it doesn't take away from the sig. Or you could put like a red light somewhere on that side.

Also... so are members allowed to have sigs bigger than 400x100 now? Or is there something special you have to do?

Lucifus
Wed, 04-07-2010, 07:05 PM
I had just that Barret render. Can't remember where I got it, I've had it for a while, but had no motivation to do anything with it.

I'm surprised how quickly I'm remembering how to operate Photoshop.

As for the limitations; I won a contest hosted here to unlock my 500 x 125 limit.
Shinta has both this and a 125x125 avatar limit.

As for Darkshadow, I don't have a clue, I forgot to re-size it for him, but it didn't seem to matter.


Free signature anyone?

http://i43.tinypic.com/15nkbqu.png

I was gonna do something with these three, but got lost halfway.

http://i42.tinypic.com/vyv1jq.png

http://i43.tinypic.com/140es77.png

http://i40.tinypic.com/2ij13de.png

Edit: O, and heres an avatar if ya want er DS.

http://i43.tinypic.com/5n3dde.png