Was using Ashe yesterday and I was around the same level as everyone else, but for some reason she wasn't as strong as the others on my team or the opposition. Maybe I'm not buying the right things!? I dunno, I'll just keep playing and hope that I get better :P
If anyone wants to play, (and help me :P) my account name is: gos27.
This helped me out
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-le...ampion/ashe-13
AS boots, Infinity Edge, Last Whisperer and Phantom Dancer, you`ll melt faces.Originally Posted by gos27
Was using Ashe yesterday and I was around the same level as everyone else, but for some reason she wasn't as strong as the others on my team or the opposition. Maybe I'm not buying the right things!? I dunno, I'll just keep playing and hope that I get better :P
If anyone wants to play, (and help me :P) my account name is: gos27.
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I like to get phantom dancer before whisperer though, helps me take down turrets within seconds when nobody's looking
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php is the best place for (most) guides, in my opinion. If you choose a "featured" guide, 90% of them are written by a top ELO player, and they go into explanations on their mastery choices, rune options, item purchases, etc. I used to use mobafire until I realized just how bad most of them were (haven't taken a look at the one Arch linked though, so no comment on that).
It's dangerous to go alone. Take Nep.
Last Whisper isn't a must have item - it all depends on what enemy tanks are getting. Ark - try fitting stark's fervor in there - especially if you have more ad champs.
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I don't think Stark's Fervor would serve such a squishy champion like Ashe
lol, everyone has armor even if they don`t buy armor items, last whisperer makes you but the enemies hp like butter.
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But nobody has unlimited armor even if they buy all the armor items in the game, while you're doing mid lane against another carry you should really focus on damage and not armor penetration. It's a good end game item though, for those team fights.
Well yeah, i meant in teamfights of course, but by the time you buy IE and lv2 boots, laning phase is usually over already.
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Anyone who uses Ryze have any idea what's best to buy first? Been using him a lot, quite like him and he suits my style of play.
Masteries: 9-0-21: i get the mpen talent and cdr in offense, and everything that gives mana + cdr in utility, that gives me 9 cdr.
Runes: Mpen reds and quint, mana per level yellow, 6% cdr per level blues and rest in mpen, that gives me a fair amount of mpen and 15% cdr at level 18.
Items: Mana crystal + health and mana potions, farm and buy tear of the goddess asap and start farming that mana, farming mana is crucial, get level 2 boots and roa by minute 20 or less, afterwards its up to you if you want glacial shroud or hextech revolver first, i like revolver first, when you get both upgrade revolver into WotA, if you can find someone else to get a wota for double stack, the game is pretty much over, you`ll be unstopable, last item is either a warmog or veil depending on the enemy comp, in some rare cases get a void staff if they`re stacking that Mresist. finally, upgrade your glacial shroud into frozen heart, and your tear into AA just for shit and giggles.
Explanation: Ryze depends a lot on mana and a consistent rotation, his Q gives 10% cdr, 15 from talents and masteries and 15 from shroud will give you early cdr cap while only buying one cheap cdr item.
Ryze has several rotations, if you can master all of them, especially his strongest one you`ll be a killing machine.
Last edited by UChessmaster; Mon, 10-24-2011 at 09:34 AM.
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Ok, i don't really understand much of what you said, but of what I did understand, I will take on board
only if they have above 100 armor, if it is less than that even brutalizer is better.
Mana crystal. no exceptions. and HP pot.
try to get tear asap, DO NOT upgreade it to Archangel Staff, do it as your last item. Rod of ages is nice on him after boots +1, then i go with either Catalyst->banshee or mana-giving item from Frozen Heart after finishing boots +mpen, depending on who get fed and their team proportions(AD -> frozen Heart, ap or lots of annoying skills banshee), after it i finish up the other item.
as for the last item i go with either lichbane or FoN. FoN makes me super tanky(about 180/180 resses), while lichbane can increase your dps i prefer fon usually.
after that i make Archangel's staff, Ryze benefits very slightly from ap compared to mana and it is really a waste to get it early.
for masteries i get mpen in offense, i get hp regen in def(it is after mres) and rest into utility(less time dead, better teleport, and more mana are must have)
I'm using mpen red runes, yellows mana regen/lv(i'll change it later to mana probably), and CDR per lv(with those i can easily get 40% cdr cap), and for quints i use my favourite movement speed runes <3.
i suggest getting RoA before the level 2 boots, i've found out that it works way better because if you are decent you can get it at about 18 min mark, so by 28 min you have fully charged RoA.
Revolver is a waste imho, ryze has enough spellvamp on his ulti, and ap bonus is just useless to him.
After i finish my build i have approx 2,9k hp, 180/180 resses, nearly 2k mana, i never really counted ap but after i get archangel i have about 200-300.
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cdr = cooldown reduction, it`s a critical status for ryze because it perfectly matches his passive for some hardcore Q spam (your strongest spell)
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Q is his strongest spell??? I thought W and E were? I never use Q, and don't really unlock it :/
Was wondering what cdr was, too afraid to ask cause I didn't wanna look like an eejit
You should get a roa by min 18 even if you buy boots first, usually my case. but sure, RoA can go before.
The thing with revolver (and especially wota) is, it`s really a secretly OP item for Ryze, it gives 25% spellvamp, imagine a double wota scenario, thats 50% vamp ALL THE TIME, this is specifically op for Ryze because he can cast to infinity unlike most mages, his ult doesn`t last forever, double wota does, his ult is something you need to save for his long rotation (qeqwqrqeqwq in case you`re wondering), you shouldn`t relly on it for healing only, if you use the ult too early your dps will greatly decrease, with double wota and ult you get a character that has high health, damage, defenses and 75% spellvamp, thats just absurd, you should try it out someday, you`ll be amazed.
3.9k HP, 180 armor, 4.1k mana, 337 ap, and if i`m lucky 50% consistent spellvamp.
Q is the strongest in a way that you should be able to spam it a lot, if you read his passive you`ll notice that every spell he cast decreases all of his cooldown by 1, the point of Ryze is that you use Q, then another spell in hopes that Q is ready again, repeat to infinity
Your priority when leveling spells should be R>Q>W>E
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What does R do? Don't entirely understand the explanation it gives in game
It gives you 25% spellvamp at level 3, that means that if you do let`s say, 100 magic damage, you heal yourself by 25, it gives your spells some AoE, that means that if you hit one enemy with Q, enemies nearby will also get hit by a small amount, it also increases your mana as a passive.
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That was supposed to be nearly 5k mana, aprox 4,8k or 4,95k with lichbane or so. my bad.You should get a roa by min 18 even if you buy boots first, usually my case. but sure, RoA can go before.
The thing with revolver (and especially wota) is, it`s really a secretly OP item for Ryze, it gives 25% spellvamp, imagine a double wota scenario, thats 50% vamp ALL THE TIME, this is specifically op for Ryze because he can cast to infinity unlike most mages, his ult doesn`t last forever, double wota does, his ult is something you need to save for his long rotation (qeqwqrqeqwq in case you`re wondering), you shouldn`t relly on it for healing only, if you use the ult too early your dps will greatly decrease, with double wota and ult you get a character that has high health, damage, defenses and 75% spellvamp, thats just absurd, you should try it out someday, you`ll be amazed.
3.9k HP, 180 armor, 4.1k mana, 337 ap, and if i`m lucky 50% consistent spellvamp.
Q is the strongest in a way that you should be able to spam it a lot, if you read his passive you`ll notice that every spell he cast decreases all of his cooldown by 1, the point of Ryze is that you use Q, then another spell in hopes that Q is ready again, repeat to infinity
Your priority when leveling spells should be R>Q>W>E
and the aoe damage also hits the main target so it is normal dmg + aoe dmg.
when you level up it is important to level up Q first, then W, but you must have E at lv 4 so you can spam more.
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