The Internet

[Buffalobiian]

One anime and one anime OP. They must purge data relatively fast, or have only just started collecting if that's all they got..

[David75]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t6KmxvEnkuU

Some people just don't care...

The wingsuit really was a strange idea by Patrick De Gaillardon, something like 15 years ago... But like many in his field, died from his passion, although on a basic/simple jump which adds to the irony of life and death.

[Kraco]

That was crazy. More like something from an action/agent movie than reality. It doesn't seem like a hobby you could ever really master before you die (which is likely very soon).

[David75]

That was crazy. More like something from an action/agent movie than reality. It doesn't seem like a hobby you could ever really master before you die (which is likely very soon).

I did not search a lot into this, but seems like death occurs in about 6 years of practice. Which is quite a long time IMHO for such a dangerous activity. This seems to include Base Jumping, not specifically the wingsuit users who seem to take even more risks.

While watching the video, I noticed the Redbull helmet and was wondering.
Then there are those flags with heavy Redbull advertsing.
Thing is, should the guy die on the attempt, the way things are organised, you could totally edit the video to cut the redbull part (except the helmet) and not associate the brand to the event.
Should the guy miss the hole and hit hard rock, you wouldn't even need to edit the vid.

[Kraco]

Redbull is known for sponsoring extreme sports most willingly, so I'm not overly sure they care one way or another. In the end extreme sports wouldn't be extreme if there wasn't a danger of serious injury or death. Of course the fatal attempts not so often are used in advertising purposes (if ever, really), but might still end up to news and such. However, in all honesty if I watch, in the news, Youtube, or elsewhere, a clip of some sportsman crashing, I never stare at the ads and think what a scumbag company to help somebody die gruesomely. Commercial sponsors simply are a part of the game, because not all people are millionaires able to fund it all by themselves.

[darkshadow]

That was crazy. More like something from an action/agent movie than reality. It doesn't seem like a hobby you could ever really master before you die (which is likely very soon).

Actually most of the wingsuit flying in transformers 3 was real, the stuntmen in that scene were from Red Bull as well ;]
http://www.military.com/video/off-duty/movies/wingsuit-stunts-in-transformers-3/997162199001/

[Sapphire]

http://madthad0890.tumblr.com/post/14221449410/it-was-our-first-time

What is this I don't even I don't even what is this.

N. S. F. W.

[Animeniax]

Humanity is doomed. Long live our robot overlords.

[Sapphire]

I watched it twice. I ........want more?

[Buffalobiian]

My internet chocked on it as it tried to feed it to me. I figured that as a sign to stop after 40 seconds or so.

[Sapphire]

40 seconds you'll never get back.

[Sapphire]

Girlfriend cheats on boyfriend -> boyfriend finds out -> boyfriend calls local radio station -> girlfriend expects a proposal -> instead, she gets dumped live on the air. (http://www.noob.us/entertainment/girlfriend-gets-dumped-on-the-radio/)

[Archangel]

Dem delicious tears

[darkshadow]

Man that was so great...seriously.

[fahoumh]

That truly was worth listening to from beginning to end. I am so glad I didn't skip ahead. My favourite part was when she finally clued in that this wasn't a joke.

[Animeniax]

Why did she stay on the line so long after she realized what was happening? Did she really think she could explain her way out of it, after the setup and everything arrayed against her?

[Assertn]

I found Animeniax's 12 Commandments (http://thoughtcatalog.com/2011/12-ways-to-be-taken-seriously/)

[Sapphire]

best part of teh article:


“Huh. That’s funny.” Say, “So you like to make jokes, huh?” with an ambiguously hostile tone. You’re either belittling him/ her or simply stating a fact, but no one can tell which.

[Animeniax]

I found Animeniax's 12 Commandments (http://thoughtcatalog.com/2011/12-ways-to-be-taken-seriously/)

No doubt while searching for a new personal statement for yourself. Do you often frequent sites like "Thought Catalog" looking for clever witticisms you can tell to acquaintances at parties?

[Assertn]

No doubt while searching for a new personal statement for yourself. Do you often frequent sites like "Thought Catalog" looking for clever witticisms you can tell to acquaintances at parties?

So you like to make jokes, huh?

[Animeniax]

So you like to make jokes, huh?

I actually read through part of that article... the person who wrote that is a putz. Probably a hipster.

[shinta|hikari]

1, 8, 9, 10.

[rockmanj]

I found Animeniax's 12 Commandments (http://thoughtcatalog.com/2011/12-ways-to-be-taken-seriously/)

Good lord...that sounds like me :\

[Archangel]

Back to the future (http://irinawerning.com/bttf2/back-to-the-future-2-2011/)

[XanBcoo]

Dammit, dude, I was on my way here to post that link.

It's so cool. I wanna do one of myself.

[Sapphire]

Name That Drug! (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/drugs-inc/name-that-drug-quiz/)

[Buffalobiian]

Name That Drug! (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/drugs-inc/name-that-drug-quiz/)

4/5 right. 3 of those were guesses though.

[Animeniax]

4/5 right. 3 of those were guesses though.

Kind of a bad score considering your future profession :(.

I got 3 out of 5 right, also bad considering my future profession (law enforcement).

[Buffalobiian]

Kind of a bad score considering your future profession :(.

I got 3 out of 5 right, also bad considering my future profession (law enforcement).

Heh. Had they replaced the common names with the drug class I'm sure I'd guess less. ;)

[shinta|hikari]

4/5. I knew the first 4 by elimination. Hashish, I had no idea.

[Archangel]

What the actual fuck?

"Virgin" Bikini Waxing Now Popular for Pre-Teen Girls (http://gothamist.com/2008/08/15/virgin_bikini_waxing_now_popular_fo.php)

[Sapphire]

Virgin waxing... the new modern circumcision for girls!

[Buffalobiian]

The good: That shit's only in America right now.
The bad: I'll probably hit us 10 years later.

[Animeniax]

The next level of depravity that is child beauty pageantry.

[rockmanj]

Fifty Dumbest Tweets of 2011 (http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/2011/12/50-dumbest-tweets-2011.html)

[XanBcoo]

The next level of depravity that is child beauty pageantry.

Yeah, this steps way outside the confines of the crazy that is child beauty pageants. It's just another limb of America's obsession with sexualizing prepubescent traits.

And it hurts to think that the girls themselves are going to be blamed for this.

[fahoumh]

Fifty Dumbest Tweets of 2011 (http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/2011/12/50-dumbest-tweets-2011.html)
I only made it to #8 because I was afraid reading further would have resulted with my head smashing through the desk.

[Animeniax]

Yeah, this steps way outside the confines of the crazy that is child beauty pageants. It's just another limb of America's obsession with sexualizing prepubescent traits.

And it hurts to think that the girls themselves are going to be blamed for this.My bad, I saw the beauty pageant picture and couldn't stomach actually reading the article. Now that I have... I wonder how terrible this trend actually is. If a girl gets waxed early enough to kill the hair follicles, she would never have to wax again in her life. I can see the appeal from the woman's side. As a guy, I like natural bush.


Fifty Dumbest Tweets of 2011 (http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/2011/12/50-dumbest-tweets-2011.html)

No racist, but this is more like the 50 dumbest tweets made by black people in 2011.

[rockmanj]

My bad, I saw the beauty pageant picture and couldn't stomach actually reading the article. Now that I have... I wonder how terrible this trend actually is. If a girl gets waxed early enough to kill the hair follicles, she would never have to wax again in her life. I can see the appeal from the woman's side. As a guy, I like natural bush.



No racist, but this is more like the 50 dumbest tweets made by black people in 2011.

Not all of them are black, but quite a few are. But there is a mixture there. Whites, latinos and asians are represented as well.

[Buffalobiian]

I only made it to #8 because I was afraid reading further would have resulted with my head smashing through the desk.

I didn't keep count, but the 8th tweet would have been about right. It was just terrible.

[Sapphire]

OCZ Technology 512 GB Petrol Series 2.5-Inch SATA III Synchronous(MLC) Solid State Drive for $100 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MQ64BA).

Go.

[David75]

OCZ Technology 512 GB Petrol Series 2.5-Inch SATA III Synchronous(MLC) Solid State Drive for $100 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MQ64BA).

Go.

Out of stock. Pricing mistake.

amazon has rules against those.
I remember those SLC drives at 1/10th the usual price, ordered 2, they canceled the order...

[Sapphire]

Both of them? I've been hearing that if people buy more than one they just send one, but still send one.

[Janice]

Amazon is known to often honor price mistakes, but it's unlikely for something for $500 off. Still ordered one, though.

[Sapphire]

I ordered 3.

[Buffalobiian]

"Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available."

Damn it.. :(

On a related note, Amazon's discounts are pretty unreal (though after working in retail a while I've learned that a 100% mark-up isn't at all out of the question). My only problem trying to evaluate sellers to be confident in their products' authenticity. Some manufacturers also only honour warranty from authorised resellers.

And on another related note, OCZ's revodrive seems to kick ass from the specs. Maybe using something other than SATA isn't that bad an idea..

[David75]

be careful with trim support, boot time, bootable drive, and drive quality.

->Sapph: Yup, both drive cancelled.

[Sapphire]

People were contacting Amazon to make sure they get the product they bought, "as advertised".


http://i.imgur.com/1Ujk8.png

[Kraco]

They got even more of those mixed up, not only the 512GB version's title with the 64GB's price and description? They must have hired some Christmas time helper straight from the streets and sagely placed the doofus in charge of creating pages for new products...

[Animeniax]

I wonder about holding retailers responsible for pricing/advertising mistakes when people are so adverse to personal responsibility and accountability. Amazon won't hurt from losing a few upset bargain basement shoppers if they decide not to honor these obvious mistakes in pricing.

[Buffalobiian]

Well technically that guy needs to receive the "as advertised" 256gb model, not a 250gb one. Good luck finding one of those.. >_>

[Archangel]

The restart page (http://www.therestartpage.com)

How many do you remember? I counted 7

[Xelbair]

every windows one starting from 3.11.. none of macfag's.

[Sapphire]

Who knew (http://slickdeals.net/localdeals/new-york/) that you could so so much fun stuff in NYC for cheap (http://slickdeals.net/localdeal/544460/169-for-a-twohour-introductory-flight-package-from-empire-flight-academy-in-farmingdale-379-value)?

>_______________>

[Archangel]

Those are getting pretty popular

http://www.odisseias.com/

4 stars hotels at 70% off, Spas, restaurants, you name it. I'd probably make good use of it if i wasn't an immature punk with immature friends in an immature relationship.

[Buffalobiian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WjOPXpd9PSU

Right at the end, did he say "you should OF.."? >_>

[Animeniax]

Common 'mercan speech. It's like saying "gonna" when you mean "going to".

[Buffalobiian]

Common 'mercan speech. It's like saying "gonna" when you mean "going to".

"Gonna" is cool since it's like a made-up short-hand like an unofficial "don't" instead of "do not".

"Should of" is just wrong. It's not a short-hand, but an error.

Other examples: "Try to do" vs "Try and do", "I done it" vs "I did it OR I'd done it"

That stuff all happens commonly in Australian speech too. I was just amused that they slipped up at the end after trying to make the video all professional and serious and everything.

[Animeniax]

I think it's closer to "shoulduv" which is 'mercan for the contraction "should've" but ends up sounding like "should of".

[dragonrage]

Fifty Dumbest Tweets of 2011 (http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/2011/12/50-dumbest-tweets-2011.html)


I read some of this and felt my IQ dropping, thanks Rockmanj.

[Archangel]

I WANT EVERYTHING IN THIS WEBSITE

http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/

[rockmanj]

I WANT EVERYTHING IN THIS WEBSITE

http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/

Even the Game Boy dress?

[Buffalobiian]

I WANT EVERYTHING IN THIS WEBSITE

http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/

Companion Cube cookie jar!!

[Sapphire]

Oh yessu (http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/dragon-skull-incense-burner) I want this.

WHY DO I HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF THIS SITE???????/

Maybe it's one of those sites where you buy shit in a haze, but then later you find absolutely no use for it and it just lays around and makes you look like a hoarder.

[Buffalobiian]

A lot of the stuff is "alright", quite a few are simply impractical.. but they're fun to look at.

There's a handful that I'd actually buy because they're both practical and aesthetically pleasing (less than 10 items).

(edit: more if you were hoarding for a certain effect - such as all the steampunk clocks and keyboards etc)




.. And then you've got shit like the Optimus Prime statue

[rockmanj]

James Joyce (http://harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=32) is disgusting. (http://loveletters.tribe.net/thread/fce72385-b146-4bf2-9d2e-0dfa6ac7142d) Read the second link at your own peril. One of the masters of the English language was apparently a dirty perv.

[Sapphire]

Didn't people in the early 1900s write more Shakespearean like??

[rockmanj]

Didn't people in the early 1900s write more Shakespearean like??

Not really. Authors tended to write in a more vernacular style. Look at works by Joyce and Oscar Wilde.

[Uchiha Barles]

Those James Joyce letters got me going down a long, dark road. Check this out, indisputable geniuses who were also perverts.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18559_6-famous-geniuses-you-didnt-know-were-perverts.html

If you thought Einstein was awesome before...

edit: This is also fucking hillarious

http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_92_the-sex-ed-lessons-you-wish-theyd-taught-you_p14/#9

[Sapphire]

but nothing quite sums up Mozart's dirtiness as well as when he told his cousin that he wanted to "shit on her nose" and watch it "drip down her chin."

The fuck? I saw these people as totally dedicated to their work and not tainted by lowly, human passion. How disappointing.

[Animeniax]

I think the only way you can make such transcendent and timeless works of art is to be waist-deep in the excrement that is humanity. How else can your work speak to the filthy masses unless you yourself are even filthier?

Sapphy, your line of thinking isn't far from how some nerds think women's poo doesn't smell.

[Sapphire]

That's silly.

Women don't poo.

[Buffalobiian]

#1.
Jean-Jacques Rousseau

^ He looks exactly like our perverted friend from high school, it was hilarious.

[Archangel]

Party hard (http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2953/arrrgguy1cm2.swf)

[XanBcoo]

God, the lasers scared the crap out of me hahaha.

[Archangel]

Noooooo! (http://nooooooooooooooo.com/)

[Archangel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96hgSHvB78U

[Assertn]

This should be renamed to the reddit repost thread

[Archangel]

Which in turn should be renamed the 4chan repost website

[Assertn]

and half of 4chan's content comes from somethingawful...

[Xelbair]

and half of 4chan's content comes from somethingawful...
content? 4chan? lol.

[Sapphire]

Hairy legs club!!! (http://hairylegsclub.tumblr.com)

[Archangel]

Kill it with fire and dismember its corpse!

[Sapphire]

Why does the West expect women to shave their legs? No thanks to dragging a razor across them every week.

It seems odd to me since I never grew hair on my legs but apparently there's a "natural" movement against it to demonstrate self-confidence and resistance to societal control, much like the African-American hair community that goes "natural".

[Kraco]

Huh? Does West expect men to shave their face? It's their own choice and to what degree, although you might not get certain jobs if you look like bin Laden's brother. Women might face more external pressure, but ultimately it's their own choice to either do it or accept the possible consequences of skipping it.

[Sapphire]

I refer to societal control as the possible judgement and isolation a person can get from society by not following it's aesthetic expectations (Durkheim).

[David75]

Well, there's shaving and body hygiene.
Seems like some of the girls in those pics are not after the right to have hairy legs, but rather are too lazy to have proper hygiene or do not really care about how they look like. Or rather are lazy about it.
Do it right, or just forget it ;)

[XanBcoo]

Huh? Does West expect men to shave their face?
No. And whether they do or don't does not effect society's perception of them in any recognizably negative way.


Women might face more external pressure, but ultimately it's their own choice to either do it or accept the possible consequences of skipping it.
Well it's basically, "Comply with our arbitrary expectations or face discrimination." I don't know what it's like in other countries, but in the US it's expected. There's not really a "choice" at all.

I grew up in the US and think completely shaven women are as hot as it gets. But I realize that that's a product of being socialized to expect certain things. You can't really call it a fair choice until both options are accepted in society.

[Uchiha Barles]

Naw, corporate america at the very least prefers the image of a clean shaven man over that of a mustached and bearded man. There are many positions where you are required to keep a clean shaven and neat appearance. There's definitely pressure social pressure for men to shave from the workplace in addition to whatever sexual pressure there is from women who do not like facial hair. As far as I know, women only face sexual pressure to shave their legs, and maybe peer pressure from other women. That can become effective workplace pressure, but I've never heard of any actual policy against leg hair in the workplace (beyond the requirement to present a neat image).

[Buffalobiian]

It's just a perception of beauty. We like shaved women like we love slim women. It's not absolute, but there is a majority preference. Some things are simply more popular than others.

[Kraco]

Considering employment, lots of workplaces wouldn't protest against clothing that hides the legs, just like men's typical trousers do. However, hiding your face with clothing would be even worse than sporting a huge taleban beard. Unless you are applying for an Antarctic expedition, wearing a balaclava to the job interview would be worse than not appearing at all.

This isn't by far as black and white as a hasty thinker would consider it.

[XanBcoo]

Naw, corporate america at the very least prefers the image of a clean shaven man over that of a mustached and bearded man. There are many positions where you are required to keep a clean shaven and neat appearance.
Cool. That's not at all what's being discussed. And even then, there is a clear choice (with little repercussion) being made to enter that position or not. There is no stigma against not taking a position where that is required.


There's definitely pressure social pressure for men to shave from the workplace in addition to whatever sexual pressure there is from women who do not like facial hair.
Roughly equal amounts of women prefer men shaven to unshaven. Vastly fewer men prefer women unshaven to shaven, to the point where body hair on women is stigmatized. This is what I meant. There's no choice until both are acceptable options.

I'm not saying whether it should be or not, but that's the reality of the situation.

[Kraco]

Roughly equal amounts of women prefer men shaven to unshaven. Vastly fewer men prefer women unshaven to shaven, to the point where body hair on women is stigmatized. This is what I meant. There's no choice until both are acceptable options.

Huh? Both are acceptable already if there are men in significant numbers not minding or preferring their woman's appendages natural. Or are you arguing about statistics here? You need 50-50 for it to be okay, or something? Is that even realistic all things considered, since hairless legs or a hairless face aren't everything men or women look for in their partners, so you wouldn't get 50% acceptance anyway, due to all the other filters.

[XanBcoo]

Huh? Both are acceptable already if there are men in significant numbers not minding or preferring their woman's appendages natural.
No, they are not. Like I said, I don't know what it's like in other countries but body hair on women, even arm hair, is heavily stigmatizing. And even when it is accepted, it's treated as a fetish. A subversion. The pressure comes from both men and other women.

No one's asking for exact percentages.

And I'm being typically American and basing this on US culture. I realize that elsewhere it might not be the same, which is a good thing.

[Ryllharu]

Naw, corporate america at the very least prefers the image of a clean shaven man over that of a mustached and bearded man. There are many positions where you are required to keep a clean shaven and neat appearance. There's definitely pressure social pressure for men to shave from the workplace in addition to whatever sexual pressure there is from women who do not like facial hair. As far as I know, women only face sexual pressure to shave their legs, and maybe peer pressure from other women.

Indeed. Any job where you might have to use a respirator requires a clean shaven face.

Dress codes are a flip side to this coin. Women typically get a much more relaxed dress code when it comes to "business casual" and "professional" requirements. Men are stuck with slacks, tucked-in polo shirts (if they're lucky) and tucked-in dress shirts for Business Casual and dress pants, shirt, tie, and jacket for Professional. Women in the workplace can get away with quit a bit more, many of which straddle the line of each dress code standard.


Roughly equal amounts of women prefer men shaven to unshaven. Vastly fewer men prefer women unshaven to shaven, to the point where body hair on women is stigmatized. This is what I meant. There's no choice until both are acceptable options.
Where do you find these equal amounts going for male facial hair? Chest hair is one thing that goes one way or the other, but women in my age demographic generally don't allow their boyfriends/husbands to keep a beard (at least for long).

[XanBcoo]

Man, I really don't know why it's hard to accept that men don't face the same social discrimination that women do. I didn't mean to start a derail, and I haven't said anything particularly radical, but I keep reading posts that are unnecessarily defensive...


Dress codes are a flip side to this coin. Women typically get a much more relaxed dress code when it comes to "business casual" and "professional" requirements. Men are stuck with slacks, tucked-in polo shirts (if they're lucky) and tucked-in dress shirts for Business Casual and dress pants, shirt, tie, and jacket for Professional. Women in the workplace can get away with quit a bit more, many of which straddle the line of each dress code standard.
Personally I'd love to give up my clearly defined and near-universally standard dress code in lieu of one that lends itself to interpretation, and therefor abuse and discrimination due to being either way too slutty (http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/04/12/so-what-exactly-should-female-attorneys-wear/) or
not slutty enough (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0OJX/is_3_29/ai_n25100585/).

Non-sarcastic response: Men have fewer dress code options which, at its worst, is a bit of a bore. It sucks but we're basically unaffected. Women have many dress code options but face a higher risk of discrimination and must always "straddle the line" amongst judgmental coworkers, peers, and customers. Yes, it is a system that can be abused by some women. It is also a system that is constantly abused by men.

At the expense of dressing relatively similarly every day, men forgo this abuse. I don't see which side of the coin is the negative one.


Where do you find these equal amounts going for male facial hair? Chest hair is one thing that goes one way or the other, but women in my age demographic generally don't allow their boyfriends/husbands to keep a beard (at least for long).
Actually, I was speaking 100% anecdotally, but after a few minutes of googling it seems that unshaven is consistently considered at least kind of attractive:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/3345796/Women-prefer-men-with-stubble-for-love-sex-and-marriage.html

http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/chicks-dig-beards-science-dont-lie.php

http://www.lsureveille.com/facial-hair-at-its-most-popular-since-70s-1.1318609#.TxiyKvni03g

89% in the 1970s.

You don't find numbers like that approving of non-shaven women. But that's not even my point. The point is that men don't face the same stigma for not shaving that women do.

I need to reread my posts and make sure I'm not coming off too uptight or something.

[Ryllharu]

For the record, you're not coming off too uptight, I'm more after the debate for its own sake.


Non-sarcastic response: Men have fewer dress code options which, at its worst, is a bit of a bore. It sucks but we're basically unaffected. Women have many dress code options but face a higher risk of discrimination and must always "straddle the line" amongst judgmental coworkers, peers, and customers. Yes, it is a system that can be abused by some women. It is also a system that is constantly abused by men."Can be" as opposed to "constantly"? That seems a bit unfair. I take it you've never experienced a female co-worker with a serious case of RIBS (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ribs)? (alternate link (http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Rensselaer_Polytechnic_Institute#R.I.B.S._at_RPI)) Never been chastised for wearing jeans when a female co-worker gets away with substantially less appropriate attire? Not all discrimination is negative.

It sounds like a misogynistic joke, but I assure you, within male dominated industries like many of the STEM fields, it's a real phenomenon. There are simply things that female STEM employees can get away with because they are within the minority. Management also loves to fast-track them, to meet ultimately meaningless equal-opportunity metrics ("meaningless" entirely due to the 90%/10% demographics). I hesitate to state they face a higher rate of discrimination when they get that much more exposure to career development opportunities than their male peers.

Granted, not all of them are like that (more of the good kind than otherwise in my experience), but there is no question that there are some female STEM employees that love all the attention they get.

[Buffalobiian]

Just wanna add to what Ryll said.. It irks me too that the feminist movement has actually made them more powerful by making organisations fill quotas by providing equal or designated number of positions for each sex, rather than providing an equal opportunity instead.

I'm a little with what Xan is saying though. Unshaven women don't weird you out like an unshaven man does. It's not so much the fact that the leg is unshaven, but rather the mentality they possess to keep it unshaven (if they have such a mentality).

For example, the "natural" movement Sapphi mentioned.

"Forgetting to shave" nor "not bothering to shave in winter because it's covered up" is different.. like how no one gives a shit if I shaved or not on the weekend.

[Kraco]

Non-sarcastic response: Men have fewer dress code options which, at its worst, is a bit of a bore. It sucks but we're basically unaffected. Women have many dress code options but face a higher risk of discrimination and must always "straddle the line" amongst judgmental coworkers, peers, and customers. Yes, it is a system that can be abused by some women. It is also a system that is constantly abused by men.

At the expense of dressing relatively similarly every day, men forgo this abuse. I don't see which side of the coin is the negative one.


Let's apply this logic to the original case: Women have fewer shaving options, so at its worst it becomes a bore. Men have more, so they must spend time stressing over what kind of solution to find that suits themselves personally yet doesn't annoy the people around them, yet they see other, more daring or otherwise privileged men abuse it. At the expense of shaving similarly every day, women can entirely forgo the abuse.

[Sapphire]

How come hot women with unattractive men are more or less commonly seen, but I've never seen a hot man with an unattractive woman in my entire life?

[Buffalobiian]

There are 2 reasons:

-There are more attractive women than there are attractive men
-Men see looks as a prerequisite. They may or may not like a hot woman with a bitch-ass personality, but the hotness is still a crowd-control factor. Women tend to be more able to like a man for other qualities besides (or despite) his looks.

[Animeniax]

Denzel Washington's wife isn't hot, and he is widely accepted as the model of an attractive man. I could think of others, but it's 6am.

[rockmanj]

Here is an interesting exercise (http://secretlifeofpronouns.com/exercise/Bottle/)that is mentioned in a book I am reading. My results were...interesting, to say the least. I wonder what he would pick up if he studied how everyone on GW writes.

And I am not saying I am a "hot man", but I heard something weird when I broke up with my last gf. Almost all of my friends were flabbergasted that I was not with a better looking woman. Even she kind of said as much. And even though I don't see the big deal about Denzel, apparently his wife was a beauty queen or something in her youth.

[Buffalobiian]

My results are utterly bizarre to me. It rates many of my highs as being "healthy".. ??

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Overall, you wrote 219 words in the 5 minutes.

Generally, the more you write, the better. In this exercise, anything less than about 50 words is not too reliable.

Look at the table and compare your numbers with others who have done this task. In all cases, the higher the number, the more you used words associated with that particular category. The actual numbers refer to the percentage of all the words you wrote that were captured within each dimension. Based on very little evidence, one could imagine that your description of the bottle might mean something about you. This analysis is based on virtually no knowledge of you or of bottles in general. Take what is said with a grain of salt.

Words on the label: Verbal thinking. Me: 2.74. Average: 1.74 People who score high on this dimension tend to focus on the label and what the words actually say. They often report that the letters Oza and Ka referred to Ozarka and that "Thirst Quencher" could be seen on the blue background. Your score is about average. You probably mentioned a couple of the broad features of the words on the label but didn't dwell on them.

Colors and text: Visual sensitivity. Me: 2.28. Average: 3.74 Some people are particularly sensitive to colors and styles associated with writing. People who score high on the visual sensitivity dimension tend to write about colors of the text as well as the backgrounds. Your score on this dimension is below the average. You may be interested in what words say but not how they are presented. Graphic design may not be a wise career choice.

Bottle contents: Functional thinking. Me: 2.28. Average: 1.67 The purpose of a water bottle is to hold water. Duh. People who score high on this dimension focus on the bottle as a container of something. In other words, they are thinking about the function of the bottle. Your language use in describing the bottle suggests that you are someone who is in the healthy range of functional thinking. You can look at a picture of a water bottle and consider what is inside it. You don't dwell on it. You sound pretty healthy to me.

The bottle itself: Tactile sensitivity. Me: 3.65. Average: 2.91 Someone who is high in tactile sensitivity likes to touch things. They appreciate the surface, texture, and contours of objects and people. They have an appreciation of the dimensionality of objects. In describing the bottle, high scorers paid attention to the surface and contour of the bottle itself, perhaps thinking of it like a sculpture. Your writing suggests that you have a healthy appreciation of form. In looking at the bottle, you may have mentioned its surface structure, imagining how it would feel in your hands. You are a normal human being along this dimension.

Light and shadow: Contextual thinking. Me: 1.37. Average: 0.79 If you look closely at the picture of the bottle, you will see that the lighting casts a shadow on the table through the bottle. People who wrote about this tended to score highly on this dimension. As you can see in the table, your score indicates that you are in the normal range of contextual thinking. In your writing, you made reference to some features of the background surrounding the bottle. This is healthy in the sense that it suggests you can stand back and look at objects in a broader perspective.

Date/Time: 23 January 2012, 5:19 am

Your bottle description: I am presented with a picture containing a plastic bottle. The bottle is composed of clear, see-through plastic with a white cap. It looks like its capacity is around 600 millilitres. There is a red label that is around 10 centimetres in height that is wrapped around it. This sticker is set 5 centimetres below the bottle cap. The bottle cap, by the way is white. It also has a tamper seal underneath it, the typical tamper seals you commonly see on bottles. Facing roughly 25 degrees to the left on the bottle is a column of words that is orange in colour. The brand of the bottle seems to be Ozaka. The letters Oz are visible on the right of the bottle, while the ka is seen wrapped around on the left. The bottle contains a clear liquid. One should assume that it is water of some description. This water fills the bottle to roughly 40% of its capacity. The bottle is straight for its lower body, but tappers off bluntly to a point at the top. There are ridges on the bottle that look like waves. There is a light source on the bottle, which reflects as white on the contours on the top of the bottle, suggesting that the light source is a fluorescent light.

[Xelbair]

score 1.28 / 1.74
Words on the label: Verbal thinking. People who score high on this dimension tend to focus on the label and what the words actually say. They often report that the letters Oza and Ka referred to Ozarka and that "Thirst Quencher" could be seen on the blue background. Your score is about average. You probably mentioned a couple of the broad features of the words on the label but didn't dwell on them.

score 5.13 / 3.74
Colors and text: Visual sensitivity. Some people are particularly sensitive to colors and styles associated with writing. People who score high on the visual sensitivity dimension tend to write about colors of the text as well as the backgrounds. Your score on this dimension is close to the average. You are drawn to colors and have a passing interest in layout and design.

score 3.85 / 1.67
Bottle contents: Functional thinking. The purpose of a water bottle is to hold water. Duh. People who score high on this dimension focus on the bottle as a container of something. In other words, they are thinking about the function of the bottle. Your language use in describing the bottle suggests that you are someone who thinks about the functions of objects. When you looked at the picture, your eyes probably wandered to the contents of the bottle. Most people didn't do this. Perhaps you have deep philosophical thoughts. Perhaps you are an aspiring engineer. Perhaps you are thirsty.

score 3.85 / 2.91
The bottle itself: Tactile sensitivity. Someone who is high in tactile sensitivity likes to touch things. They appreciate the surface, texture, and contours of objects and people. They have an appreciation of the dimensionality of objects. In describing the bottle, high scorers paid attention to the surface and contour of the bottle itself, perhaps thinking of it like a sculpture. Your writing suggests that you have a healthy appreciation of form. In looking at the bottle, you may have mentioned its surface structure, imagining how it would feel in your hands. You are a normal human being along this dimension.

score 5.13 / 0.79
Light and shadow: Contextual thinking. If you look closely at the picture of the bottle, you will see that the lighting casts a shadow on the table through the bottle. People who wrote about this tended to score highly on this dimension. As you can see in the table, your score indicates that you are in the normal range of contextual thinking. In your writing, you made reference to some features of the background surrounding the bottle. This is healthy in the sense that it suggests you can stand back and look at objects in a broader perspective.

Date/Time: 23 January 2012, 9:47 am

Your bottle description: Plastic transparent bottle is standing near the wall, in the middle of the picture and light is coming from the right. The bottle is half filled with water, has red label with white name on it. We can't see the name fully because label is pointed with the contents data towards us. cap of the bottle is white and made of plastic. Wall behind the bottle is grayish with slight shade of yellow, while the ground is white.


written in approx 1min20s
i would describe dimensions of it but there was no other reference object i could use to relatively describe the distance/height

[Archangel]

Words on the label: Verbal thinking
1.01 / 1.74
Colors and text: Visual sensitivity
5.88 / 3.74
Bottle contents: Functional thinking
11.76 / 1.67
The bottle itself: Tactile sensitivity
11.76 / 2.91
Light and shadow: Contextual thinking
2.30 / 0.79

Cool test.

[David75]

Visual Dimension
Your data
The average response


Words on the label: Verbal thinking
2.15
1.74


Colors and text: Visual sensitivity
6.45
3.74


Bottle contents: Functional thinking
2.15
1.67


The bottle itself: Tactile sensitivity
4.30
2.91


Light and shadow: Contextual thinking
3.23
0.79

[rockmanj]

Ironically, I lost my results, but I remember most of them. My verbal was 2.19, Colors and text, 2.45, Functional thinking, 0.55, Tactile, 2.9, light and shadow 3.5

[darkshadow]

Interesting I guess...

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Overall, you wrote 159 words in the 5 minutes.



Words on the label: Verbal thinking. Me: 2.52. Average: 1.74
Your score is about average. You probably mentioned a couple of the broad features of the words on the label but didn't dwell on them.

Colors and text: Visual sensitivity. Me: 5.03. Average: 3.74
Your score on this dimension is close to the average. You are drawn to colors and have a passing interest in layout and design.

Bottle contents: Functional thinking. Me: 1.26. Average: 1.67
Your language use in describing the bottle suggests that you are someone who is in the healthy range of functional thinking. You can look at a picture of a water bottle and consider what is inside it. You don't dwell on it. You sound pretty healthy to me.

The bottle itself: Tactile sensitivity. Me: 3.14. Average: 2.91
Your writing suggests that you have a healthy appreciation of form. In looking at the bottle, you may have mentioned its surface structure, imagining how it would feel in your hands. You are a normal human being along this dimension.

Light and shadow: Contextual thinking. Me: 0.11. Average: 0.79
In your writing, you made reference to some features of the background surrounding the bottle. This is healthy in the sense that it suggests you can stand back and look at objects in a broader perspective.

Date/Time: 23 January 2012, 3:17 pm

Your bottle description: Imagine a standard soda bottle with a couple of indentations on it. So it's a bottle that is not smooth, but with a bit of texture feeling when touching it. The bottle is also clear; you can see through it and it has no colour, it is just simply translucent. Also the cap on the bottle is white. The bottle is also made out of plastic, not glass. Now for the label, the base colour of the label is red and the text on the side describing the ingredients and such is yellow. It's logo consists of the brandname in big stylised white letters and a picture of a drawn landscape nicely cut of at the top by a circular outline. Below the brandname there is a yellow ribbon with black lettering that has a tagline inside. Also on the bottle label is a blue flag on the top left outside of the logo which gives even more information.

[Sapphire]

http://puu.sh/enjn.jpg

This test sounds like a load of crap, it kept saying "I'm healthy".


It is a clear water bottle of average size. The plastic outer edges offers a crinkled exterior. Light shines off of the upper portion of the bottle, from the unscrewed white cap to the red label on the upper portion of the bottle. On the red label is white lettering of "oz" on one side, and "ka" on the other side. It is about 10 percent full of water. The plastic off the water bottle is soft and pliable, making a slight crinkle noise if one were to hold and finish the bottle. The label on the bottle is placed oddly, causing the bottle to appear slanted as it sits upon the table. yellow lettering is condensed on to the middle of the red label. the white cap on the top has ridged edges to help with unscrewing the bottle for a tasty filtered treat. the bottle probably weighs about 900 grams in weight.

-

So I cheated the system.

http://puu.sh/enm5.jpg


Words on the label: Verbal thinking. People who score high on this dimension tend to focus on the label and what the words actually say. They often report that the letters Oza and Ka referred to Ozarka and that "Thirst Quencher" could be seen on the blue background. Your score is lower than average. Your not mentioning the specific words or letters on the label may mean that you aren't particularly interested in words themselves. If you noticed the words but didn't write about them, you may be someone who doesn't need to discuss the obvious.

Colors and text: Visual sensitivity. Some people are particularly sensitive to colors and styles associated with writing. People who score high on the visual sensitivity dimension tend to write about colors of the text as well as the backgrounds. Your score on this dimension is below the average. You may be interested in what words say but not how they are presented. Graphic design may not be a wise career choice.

Bottle contents: Functional thinking. The purpose of a water bottle is to hold water. Duh. People who score high on this dimension focus on the bottle as a container of something. In other words, they are thinking about the function of the bottle. Your language use in describing the bottle suggests that you are not someone who automatically thinks of the function of an object. At least when it comes to looking at water bottles. I'm going out on a limb here, but I don't think engineering is a good profession for you.

The bottle itself: Tactile sensitivity. Someone who is high in tactile sensitivity likes to touch things. They appreciate the surface, texture, and contours of objects and people. They have an appreciation of the dimensionality of objects. In describing the bottle, high scorers paid attention to the surface and contour of the bottle itself, perhaps thinking of it like a sculpture. Your writing suggests a distinct lack of interest in the form of the bottle itself. Extending this reasoning a bit, you don't automatically imagine how an object feels. Touch is not your dominant sense. I just can't see you as a sculptor, a painter of still lifes, or a postmodern architect.

Light and shadow: Contextual thinking. If you look closely at the picture of the bottle, you will see that the lighting casts a shadow on the table through the bottle. People who wrote about this tended to score highly on this dimension. As you can see in the table, your score indicates that you are in the normal range of contextual thinking. In your writing, you made reference to some features of the background surrounding the bottle. This is healthy in the sense that it suggests you can stand back and look at objects in a broader perspective.

Date/Time: 23 January 2012, 6:32 pm


Your bottle description: It is a motherfucking bottle with water in it, man! A water bottle. That's what a water bottle is. It has water in it. Fine, I'll explain. Water is H2o. That is the molecular formula. It is dihydrogen monoxide. When you are in a chemistry lab they don't call it dihydrogen monoxide though they call it water. Isn't it weird that they call it water instead of something all scientific? Does this essay want me to answer like a scientist? There are only so many things that I can say that are science about this water bottle. Okay, screw science. I don't even know why I'm doing this. Is this test legit? When is it five minutes? I think it would take me five seconds to drink this water like a motherfucker. Does this test care about curse words? I hope not. Oh my god hurry up five minutes you are taking forever! Doesn't water last forever? I bet it gets all nasty if it gets polluted. Than you get nasty things like mold. I bet that water has mold in it. Gross, man. Isn't this product placement?

[Buffalobiian]

Looking at everybody's scores, the resultant scoring system doesn't make too much sense. David got higher than average in everything while sapphi's BS attempt was lower in everything. I thought this was about rating your various attributes as proportions of the whole writing. I thought this was a pie-graph result since mine had ups and downs, but it seems to be closer to a pentagonal-polygram like the ones you uuse for character stats. The more words you write the higher you score.

[Assertn]

How come hot women with unattractive men are more or less commonly seen, but I've never seen a hot man with an unattractive woman in my entire life?

A college friend of mine is a pretty good looking guy. His wife... probably one of the least attractive girls I've seen.

[Animeniax]

A college friend of mine is a pretty good looking guy. His wife... probably one of the least attractive girls I've seen.

Had a couple like that in high school. I'd joke that the guy owed a debt to the girl's father, so he was forced to date the daughter and eventually fell in love with her.

[rockmanj]

Had a couple like that in high school. I'd joke that the guy owed a debt to the girl's father, so he was forced to date the daughter and eventually fell in love with her.

Sometimes they just keep coming around and before you know it, you all are together. Women be tricky like that.

[dragonrage]

Visual Dimension
Your data
The average response


Words on the label: Verbal thinking
4.44
1.74


Colors and text: Visual sensitivity
0.00
3.74


Bottle contents: Functional thinking
4.44
1.67


The bottle itself: Tactile sensitivity
6.67
2.91


Light and shadow: Contextual thinking
0.00
0.79




What the hell does this mean? Only wrote 45 words in about 1 minute 20 seconds. Horrible typing speed I know. I used red label, yet nothing for the effort.

Also this test is bogus, you have nothing to compare the dimension of the bottle and the image is small, you're unable to give an accurate description to anyone within the 5 minute limit unless the person has prior knowledge of what something similar looks like.

Rockmanj you just wanted to know when people were born and where they live don't you. I gave bogus info, mawhahahahahahahaha


plastic bottle, red label. clear plastic. Twist off top. used for drinking water. Water as in H2O. Looks somewhat like a poland sping water bottle the 500ml variety. It looks almost empty, meaning it was previously used by someone, presumably used to quench thirst.

[rockmanj]

Even the guy running the test said that it is not possible to get a complete idea of your personality; just a small glimpse. I still thought it was kind of interesting.

[David75]

I partly got those results because I'm bad at English...
Let me explain:
When I read: be careful with your typing, I immediately decided to write short and easy sentences.

I guess their statistical algorithm only works well with easy vocabulary, short sentences.
Example:
"I see a cystal clear bottle, with a blue label, a white cap on a white surface." Might be too difficult to score for the algorithm
but
"I see a crystal clear bottle.
The bottle has a blue label.
The bottle has a white cap.
The bottle is on a white surface."
Is probably a lot easier to decipher and then score points.

[Archangel]

NSFW
Childhood status: Ruined (http://dlisted.blogspot.com/2006/03/from-power-ranger-to-porn-star.html)

[Xelbair]

proven to be fake ages ago - that's different guy.

[Uchiha Barles]

Naw, that's a false rumor though they do look alike in the face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npKXbriLBpM

[UChessmaster]

So rejoice! your childhood is intact.

[rockmanj]

This is an interesting article on networking: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/01/24/reid-hoffman-linkedin-startup-you/

[Assertn]

Childhood status: Ruined (http://dlisted.blogspot.com/2006/03/from-power-ranger-to-porn-star.html)

Gotta NSFW that shit, bro

[Archangel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVGHX5Vtf0Q&feature=player_embedded
Awesome toy is awesome.

[David75]

I remember those very light and fragile plastic birds sold to children when I was a kid. Totally mechanic, rewind and throw. The thing did fly in nice circles.
Never got one, mom and dad were crass poor at the time.

Nice little toy it is, fore sure.
Thanks

[Animeniax]

Crysis 2 for PC download for $10 on Amazon.com right now.

[Archangel]

Canvas (https://wbx-files.s3.amazonaws.com/jacksonpollock_by_miltos_manetas.swf)

Unleash your inner DaVinci.

[Uchiha Barles]

Had to get off that page quickly. It'll suck the time right out of your life.

[Animeniax]

Found this list on reddit of some of the best low budget movies ever made, including a lot of titles for the artsy types who shun Hollywood blockbusters and big money productions with little substance or innovation:
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1229782/top_50_modern_day_low_budget_movies.html

I've seen a lot of the movies listed and was able to add a good number of new movies to my Netflix queue.

[Uchiha Barles]

I'm sure there are some final fantasy tactics fans here that might be interested in this:

http://www.insanedifficulty.com/index.php/Final%20Fantasy%20Tactics%201.3/home

What it is, is a patch for the original final fantasy game tactics, that essentially remakes it. Job abilities are changed, buffed, nerfed and/or swapped, with new animations for new skills. monsters are changed (mostly buffed) and the AI was made *far* more intelligent. I'm having massive amounts of fun going through this game. The challenge is real, and the skillsets are deep so as to provide you with a vast array of strategies and tactics to live up to the challenges.

There's also a patch that has all the contents of the versions I'm speaking of, but I think they kept the AI unchanged, so it's dumb, and the game is overall much easier. To apply the patch, you'd download a patching utility called ppf-o-matic and then load up an iso copy of your fft disk along with ppf file into ppf-o-matic.

Enjoy xD

[Archangel]

The first one was already difficult enough.

[UChessmaster]

The first one was already difficult enough.

And then you get Orlandu... that said this patch... this is amazing!

[Uchiha Barles]

The first one was already difficult enough.

Yeah...no. Once you know how to get the jobs you want, it becomes a cakewalk. Turning Ramza into a Samurai with his guts abilities as a secondary (or a squire with draw out ability if you're scared) and teleport movement ability, I owned the hell out of chapter 3 Wiegraf/pre-Velius fight. He was lvl 26. That was my second time playing the game, and it was the most difficult fight that could be beaten without some kind of exploit or praying for luck.

The game could be half challenging if you did not allow yourself to use abilities that heal or revive, but...not really. Try the patch xD.

[Sapphire]

Here is an unofficial version (http://www.123test.com/disc-personality-test/) of a personality test I took for work.

The results (http://www.resourcesunlimited.com/images/Online_DiSC_Classic_2.pdf) from the test I took for work said I'm a "Persuader" which I have to agree with for the most part, though I might have changed a little since I last took it. I took the unofficial test and results were different each time I took it (first, hella dominance, then results looked like promoter which is just persuader with less dominance [which is consistent with me]...), probably 'cuz I started having expectations D:.

Here's the general comparative gist (http://www.disctraining.com/members/Classical_Profile_Patterns.pdf) of the different personality types.

You guys should take it! You can see what pattern fits your results best by looking at the patterns from the second (http://www.resourcesunlimited.com/images/Online_DiSC_Classic_2.pdf) link.

[Buffalobiian]

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1600/13190329.png

You are responsive to challenges in a practical, realistic and enthusiastic manner. You are a fact orientated person capable of providing help based on solid information.
You are assertive, self-sufficient and individualistic
People are likely to perceive you as being rational and creative at the same time.

The general summary there is rather accurate. I don't know how to get the whole breakdown from the other two links though.

[Animeniax]

I tried to take the test but some of the answers seem unrelated or contradictory, and others are 50/50 for me. Not sure it will be accurate at all.

[Sapphire]

Always pick the one that wins, even a little bit.

[Yukimura]

I just felt this was such a little gem I had to share it. This was emailed to the support account on Mangatraders (note for completeness that Mangatraders has had an online viewer for a few months now in addition to the traditional ddl support we've had for years.


Why is the manga \"Yami No Matsuei\" a zip file?
I don\'t want to download or upload it.
All I want to do is read it on your web site.
It is a hassle to unzip zip files. You have to have
a zip software program to unzip the file. That is
too complicated.
I have Windows 7, so why are people still
downloading and uploading things in zip files?

A response would be appreciated. Thank you.


Also in response to personality test, I don't put much stock in them. I've noticed that there are usually multiple 'personality types' that seem to fit any given person reasonably well which makes the whole notion of having a single type describe a person seem rather forced. It reminds me of horoscopes or blood typing in that that doesn't really seem to serve a purpose beyond giving people something they can compare and contrast with their friends to make themselves feel like they understand themselves.

[darkshadow]

http://www.imgjoe.com/x/durketest.jpg
You enjoy interacting with and helping people. You are open to new ideas and procedures.
Although you are calm and controlled you still project enthusiasm and optimism.
Your natural supportive, listening and empathetic behavior makes you a good coach. Someone people turn to when they need help or advice.

permalink (http://www.123test.com/disc-personality-test/id=5260388352d0018f1)

[Archangel]

http://i.imgur.com/cfnBv.png


You have a strong inner motivation to influence people and circumstances. You thrive on competitive situations and challenging assignments.
The stresses and pressures of everyday work and life are unlikely to reduce your effectiveness and enthusiasm.

Not sure if i agree with the results. Maybe in a sense that stress doesn't really make me unmotivated, it just puts me on edge.

[gos27]

http://www.123test.com/disc-personality-test/diagram/activiteiten/Male.:18/48:40:8:4/Dominance:Influence:Compliance:Steadiness/

You have a strong inner motivation to influence people and circumstances. You thrive on competitive situations and challenging assignments.
The stresses and pressures of everyday work and life are unlikely to reduce your effectiveness and enthusiasm.

Seems to be pretty accurate :)

[UChessmaster]

1210
You are tenacious and determined to follow a course of action - to achieve objectives.
You are a clear thinker. You have an inner need to be objective and analytical. You like to pursue a definite course of action. You respond to logic rather than emotion.
You are likely to be particularly good at handling challenging technical assignments.

hmmmmm...

[David75]

http://www.123test.com/disc-personality-test/diagram/activiteiten/Male.:36/44:36:12:8/Steadiness:Compliance:Influence:Dominance/

You are tenacious and determined to follow a course of action - to achieve objectives.
You are a clear thinker. You have an inner need to be objective and analytical. You like to pursue a definite course of action. You respond to logic rather than emotion.
You are likely to be particularly good at handling challenging technical assignments.

That would be accurate, should I have enough energy to cope with my personality...

[Buffalobiian]

Controversial thinking time!

1223

http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/02/22/medethics-2011-100411.full

[David75]

Yeah, we should eradicate the Human race...

[Kraco]

Not much luck, fortunately in my opinion, trying to get that legalized elsewhere in the Western world, but you never know with Australia; after all, they did make women with small breasts illegal. In China this is already business as usual, but traditionally the West hasn't had much interest in copying laws from China, though perhaps that's changing as well with all the citizen spying laws made with the excuse of enforcing copyrights.

[Archangel]

Controversial thinking time!

1223

http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/02/22/medethics-2011-100411.full
Dafuq??!

[Xelbair]

soon MD will be able to kill 5 year old kids, and later 20 year old people on their whim too?

[Uchiha Barles]

Both a fetus and a newborn certainly are human beings and potential persons, but neither is a ‘person’ in the sense of 'subject of a moral right to life’. We take ‘person’ to mean an individual who is capable of attributing to her own existence some (at least) basic value such that being deprived of this existence represents a loss to her.


So then here's a question: Lets say someone has a child and decides that he loves it. But then someone sneaks into the neo-natal intensive care unit with the intent of killing the infant, and then kills the infant. Lets then say killer gets caught or confesses. Should he be tried for murder or property damage/destruction?

[Death BOO Z]

well, apparently he's a real person. I thought that he was a conservative puppet trying to make an argument against abortions.

other works he's done: http://monash.academia.edu/ALBERTOGIUBILINI/Papers
it's impressive that he got a doctor's degree and published already, he looks my age in his picture.

anybody willing to read the paper and see if it makes sense?

[Uchiha Barles]

lol, I read it, and it makes sense, if you accept his definitions and premises, which I do not.

[Assertn]

Controversial thinking time!
Modest proposition time!

Babes: future generation of humanity, or delectable source of protein?

[Buffalobiian]

lol, I read it, and it makes sense, if you accept his definitions and premises, which I do not.

It hinges on his definitions, yeah.

A short version of his line of thought is this:

"If a newborn and those up to a certain age are classed as being closer to an unborn child than a 'real person', then abortion laws should be more applicable to them than laws that apply to 'real persons'."

He then makes the argument as to why newborns are closer to unborn foetuses.

Assertn's proposition says much the same thing in a different flavour. Difference is, the use of the label "protein" suggests that the babies are comparable to substances, while the debate compares them to something more like animals. They're living, no doubt about that - but they don't deserve the same moral considerations as a person.

Note that I used person as opposed to human. It's debatable over what else (if anything) is required for something to be considered a person besides being a member of our species.

[Animeniax]

Unless I'm mistaken, and I'm rarely mistaken, this guy is making his argument as a pretext to dispute abortion laws. Likening the newborn to the unborn fetuses is his way of humanizing the unborn and providing them with rights that have been denied since they are not classified as human beings at that point in their development. I think his ruse will backfire as it is absurd to think a newborn is the same as a fetus.

[Kraco]

No, I don't think so, Ani. This is at least trying to be a scientific article, not a typical article in some (popular) political or religious paper, so it wouldn't employ such a roundabout way to express things. It must say directly what it intends to say. That's how scientific articles are supposed to be, and also are when they aren't hoaxes.

A fetus is a parasite whereas a newborn is already an individual organism. There's no getting rid of that essential difference. If you throw ethics and the feelings of the parents into the trash can, there would be unquestionable benefits from murdering newborn under special circumstances, but without ethics, our societies would look quite different all in all.

[Buffalobiian]

If you throw ethics and the feelings of the parents into the trash can, there would be unquestionable benefits from murdering newborn under special circumstances, but without ethics, our societies would look quite different all in all.

Ethics is the very thing the guy's talking about Kraco.

As for the "feelings of the parent", we're not really talking about Drs strangling little children in their sleep. The article emphasises that there are currently laws that allow abortions for reasons other than for the health of the mother or the baby. The "feelings of the parent" may class as one such reason.

In other words, in parts of the world where a parent can abort an unborn because "they feel like it", then they should also be allowed to "abort" a born child (as the article argues that at certain ages we have the same moral obligations towards them as we do towards unborn foetuses) because "they feel like it".

As for "parasites", if a foetus can be argued to be a nutritional parasite, then a child can also be a financial parasite. And for newborns being an individual organism, that goes back to my previous post about what counts as a "person".

Is THIS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anencephaly) a person?

Two of my classmates thought it was an academic troll (one of them even mentioned /b/, interesting enough).. but such a thing doesn't really fit in with how scientific discussions are played out, as Kraco described.

[Animeniax]

No, I don't think so, Ani. This is at least trying to be a scientific article, not a typical article in some (popular) political or religious paper, so it wouldn't employ such a roundabout way to express things. It must say directly what it intends to say. That's how scientific articles are supposed to be, and also are when they aren't hoaxes.

A fetus is a parasite whereas a newborn is already an individual organism. There's no getting rid of that essential difference. If you throw ethics and the feelings of the parents into the trash can, there would be unquestionable benefits from murdering newborn under special circumstances, but without ethics, our societies would look quite different all in all.

I think the Chinese already practice these ethics-free methods of population control. They are a very pragmatic people indeed.

I think a fetus could be considered a symbiotic parasite at the least. They have positive effects for their host (which will only be realized once it's born).

Plus, what Buffalobiian said.

[Psyke]

A pretty though provoking video, along the lines of GITS and I, Robot.


http://youtu.be/JtbDDqU3dVI

[darkshadow]

Saw it on your facebook, very cool indeed.

[Animeniax]

Hopefully they make it into a game. Quantic Dream has made some pretty intense and amazing games.

I wish they could perfect long flowing hair on their character models. Tired of the short-haired or otherwise tightly-coiffed look on females.

[Xelbair]

If there will be any advanced AI capable of real thinking, not just running predetermined subroutines, i would treat it same as a living being - and i think that human rights should apply to such robots in future.

[David75]

If there will be any advanced AI capable of real thinking, not just running predetermined subroutines, i would treat it same as a living being - and i think that human rights should apply to such robots in future.
There were many attempts at dealing with those concepts.
They all finally try to answer the question of what is life and then what are the minimum characteristics involved to treat a system as a living thing.

[Xelbair]

I think that everyone should find their own answer to that concept -for me it is same case as racism/ultra-nationalism - treating such AIs as a lower beings is just wrong. There is no equality, each one is different, not equal -there is no higher, nor lower being.

[Animeniax]

We have a hard enough time deciding if fetuses are considered alive and human... robots definitely will not get the benefit of our compassion when deciding between their life and death, especially if they are guilty of a crime.

[Kraco]

You guys are totally forgetting half of the matter: Once AIs have reached the point to make the discussion relevant, they are also at the point where they will need to decide for themselves whether to demand equal rights or not. Humans haven't met a single high intelligence apart from our own, so we can't really imagine what they'd be like. This might be especially true for AIs because I can still see at this point they will have vastly superior computing and networking speed compared to humans, followed by all the consequences. They might turn out to be disinterested in being given "human" rights.

[Animeniax]

That's like Planet of the Apes but with robots.

[Animeniax]

Check out these cool sheep sculptures made out of telephones and telephone cords:

http://www.crookedbrains.net/2010/07/telephone-sculptures.html

Here's a sample:

1238

[Animeniax]

Guile's theme goes with everything! This clip makes me hungry.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYCT77YNHsk&feature=share

[darkshadow]

Awesome that it's now that you've apparantly finally seen that ancient video.

[KrayZ33]

hurr durr i know every video on the internet

[Assertn]

I thought I posted this video like a year ago

[Animeniax]

I thought I posted this video like a year ago

Do you really expect people will go that far back in the thread to see this video? It's worth reposting every few pages, it's just that good.

[Archangel]

Coooooooool


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9c6W4CCU9M4#!

Some Jetsons shit right here.

[Animeniax]

Coooooooool

Some Jetsons shit right here.So this looks like one more way for people to walk down the street without paying attention to what they are doing or where they are going. Fuck that shit.

[Xelbair]

AR glasses - they are available right now. Problem is power source(they don't last that long) and the processing unit(it usually is connected to PC/netbook in backpack). 6 months ago .Hak5 covered 5000USD AR glasses with gps tracking, motion sensors, 2 cameras(for 3d analysis of objects), with built in headphones...
I've been waiting for this tech for ages(since i was 10 or so to be honest).

[KrayZ33]

seems like that sort of tech, which the military will get years before anyone else

awesome stuff

[UChessmaster]

http://www.incredibox.fr/en/#/application

[Buffalobiian]

http://www.incredibox.fr/en/#/application

That's addictive. I'm too lazy to find the combination to unlocked Achievement #3 though..

[Archangel]

That's addictive. I'm too lazy to find the combination to unlocked Achievement #3 though..
First dude of each group.

[Archangel]

Solitaire for dummies (https://s3.amazonaws.com/mrdoob/lab/javascript/effects/solitaire/index.html)

[Animeniax]

Cool panoramic photo from the Coldplay concert in Zurich, Switzerland:

http://coldplay.com/uploads/Zurich_Large2.jpg

The file is too large to attach.

[Kraco]

Cool panoramic photo from the Coldplay concert in Zurich, Switzerland:

http://coldplay.com/uploads/Zurich_Large2.jpg

The file is too large to attach.

So many people there that the smartest climbed to the towers to get a better view.

[darkshadow]

I'm pretty sure the people in the towers are part of the staff..

[Animeniax]

I think you're right. If they let fans climb the towers, there'd be people hanging off the sides to the point they'd be falling off or the tower would collapse under the weight. Still, I love to be in the throng of a huge concert. Coldplay is cool, but Chris Martin's voice doesn't hold up in live performances.

[Archangel]

The best and most useful website on the internet (http://www.pointerpointer.com/)

[Abdula]

Lol. If you hold the mouse near the center of the upper right quadrant, there is a girl in a blue t-shirt whose head looks like it is 3 sizes too big.

[Buffalobiian]

Haha, I stumped it.. somewhere in the bottom right.

[Archangel]

http://www.gabenewell.org/

I love the internet

[Assertn]

http://www.gabenewell.org/

I love the internet

This is currently my favorite Gaben gag:
http://i.imgur.com/AwrKg.jpg

[Animeniax]

Holy hell, people are fucking retarded. There was an actual investigation into EA's claim that choices made in ME3 would affect the outcome of the game, fat losers citing that this claim was false advertising because the endings were too similar for this to be true. What the hell is wrong with people??

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353552/ea-in-the-clear-after-investigation-into-mass-effect-3-ending/

[Abdula]

Holy hell, people are fucking retarded. There was an actual investigation into EA's claim that choices made in ME3 would affect the outcome of the game, fat losers citing that this claim was false advertising because the endings were too similar for this to be true. What the hell is wrong with people??

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353552/ea-in-the-clear-after-investigation-into-mass-effect-3-ending/


That is nothing http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-skechers-20120517,0,2910121.story

Skechers has agreed to pay $40 million to consumers who purchased its rocker-bottom shoes under the mistaken belief that the shoes would help give them Kim Kardashian's booty or Joe Montana's stamina.
Now that is retarded

[Animeniax]

That is nothing http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-skechers-20120517,0,2910121.story

Now that is retardedThat is retarded but I think it's more the article writer speaking in euphemism. The actual case was of false advertising since the shoes don't do jack for toning your legs, not that it promised you legs like KK's or stamina like JoeMo's.

[Abdula]

I know. I've seen the commercials, ridiculed them a lot, and anyone who bought those shoes believing that they would make them fit is an idiot. This is America after all and a commercials like these two http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs_dKFuIEF0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erhbn3ElJVo are a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[Animeniax]

I love Skechers shapeup commercials... all them hot bitches.

[Y]

Videogamers are worthless, entitled shits.

[Archangel]

I'll laugh so hard when they release True End DLC: 19.99$

[darkshadow]

You'll have to bottle that laughter, since that is never going to happen.

[Archangel]

http://www.wimp.com/sprayartist/

Pretty cool

[Uchiha Barles]

*nods* Damned impressive.

[darkshadow]

That's probably the best post you've made; pretty cool.

[Animeniax]

Definitely awesome. Wonder how long it took him to perfect that technique. I'd buy one of his works.

[Kraco]

If I had seen that painting before seeing this video, I'd have imagined making it had taken a lot longer than this, that's for sure. Very impressive indeed. Although at the same time it's kind of sad it was created... how should I say it, so quickly and hastily, making it feel kind of mass produced.

[enkoujin]

That guy's a genius.

[Buffalobiian]

If I had seen that painting before seeing this video, I'd have imagined making it had taken a lot longer than this, that's for sure. Very impressive indeed. Although at the same time it's kind of sad it was created... how should I say it, so quickly and hastily, making it feel kind of mass produced.

I've got mixed feelings about that painting too (and would expand on your point).

On one hand it's cool, and it would be cool if he done it on the spot via spontaneous inspiration or even simply planned it out in his head.

But what I would think is more probable, is that he practiced the steps a number of times over and over so that he can produce the desired results in a short amount of time to the point where it's an automated process.. If that was the case it can be said that it's taken the artistic nature out of it.

[Uchiha Barles]

There certainly has been a lot of practice for him to get to that point, but mass produced? More likely, he developed a number of techniques that are repeatable, that can be combined in different ways with different colors to produce images that are generally going to be somewhat similar to this, but not identical. Here's a link to some more of his stuff:

http://www.spacepaintings.com/page/page/508814.htm

And here's a youtube video of some guy who presumably developed the technique:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14hckhqalc4

[Animeniax]

Thanks for the link. It helps to know the painter probably has to have real artistic talent (see his paintings of the jazz musician and the Statue of Liberty) and not just a gimmick to produce such cool works.

[fahoumh]

Draw A Stickman (http://www.drawastickman.com/)

I found this via bearfood.com and thought it was pretty neat.

[Animeniax]

That is pretty cool! Weird how much fun you can have with little applets like that.

Has anyone played Crayon Physics (I think it was mentioned here before). Similar fun concept.

[Uchiha Barles]

Draw A Stickman (http://www.drawastickman.com/)

I found this via bearfood.com and thought it was pretty neat.

Yeah that was kind of fun, and short. I can use it for diversions between long bouts of actually trying to be productive.

[Xelbair]

https://twitter.com/#!/NeedADebitCard
stupidity level: infinity.

[Archangel]

Stupid yes, but it's not like people can do anything with those numbers if they don't have the security number as well.

[Xelbair]

Really?
/me points to amazon.

not every service requires CVC code.

with minimal information gathering skills you can get all the other data(name, adress, etc.).
also some cards have CVC code on front(american express).

[enkoujin]

Good one; it kind of reminds me of

http://twitter.com/#!/StealthMountain

Twitterbots are hilarious.

[fahoumh]

https://twitter.com/#!/NeedADebitCard
stupidity level: infinity.

Wow...too bad you can't go higher than infinity.

[Uchiha Barles]

https://twitter.com/#!/NeedADebitCard
stupidity level: infinity.

I bet you they think they're clever by covering up the cvv code or the last few digits of the card. Fucking fools. One day the internet is going to be the major tool in cleansing the human gene pool of this stupidity.


Stupid yes, but it's not like people can do anything with those numbers if they don't have the security number as well.

Uchiha Barles: Hello, this is Selrab Ahihcu calling from Bank of America calling to speak to a Ms. Tiffany Dumbfuck concerning an urgent matter:

Tiffany Dumbfuck: This is Tiffany Speaking, what's the problem?

Uchiha Barles: Our records indicate that your debit card has been used in a manner inconsistant with your shopping patterns and we are calling to confirm this. Did you shop at KiddyPorn R' Us on 7/3/2000 using your Bank of America debit card.

Tiffany Dumbfuck: Oe Em Gee no! That's horrible! How did this happen?

Uchiha Barles: It seems the security of your card has been compromised. We highly suggest you deactivate your card to prevent further unauthorized use, at which point you will be mailed a new card with a new number. We'll also need you to assign a pin number to new card. Before we proceed, we'll need to very your card number, social security number and the zipcode in which you originally filed for your card.

Tiffany Dumbfuck: Ok sure, my card number is...


See the problem?

[Buffalobiian]

I was rather cheery when I learned that you can customise your bank card with various pictures, but then the fine print says that they can't do anything that violates copyright (pretty much, printing any existing characters) - so that just sucked then.

My card's a boring white at the moment. Damn, I'll even go for a Hello Kitty one.

[shinta|hikari]

Why not (have someone) make a custom character and use that? That would be even cooler, since it is one of a kind and fits your tastes perfectly.

[Buffalobiian]

Why not (have someone) make a custom character and use that? That would be even cooler, since it is one of a kind and fits your tastes perfectly.

I could do that.. but that's if I readily have a design in mind or something..

though I wonder if the people behind the "submission process" can readily identify copyrighted characters if they saw one? I could give it go. :p

[shinta|hikari]

As long as you don't get sued for it then why not?

[Uchiha Barles]

I thought this was fairly interesting:

http://fstoppers.com/the-anti-airbrush-what-celebrities-might-look-like-as-normal-people?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+fstoppersfeed+%28fstoppers%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Photoshopped pictures of what celebrities would look as as "normal" people. I find it interesting that the artist figures that the levels of obesity he's showing and the frequency he displays it in those pictures is normal. I find it funny that Jay-Z is actually slightly less hideous after the transformation.

[Dark Dragon]

Not sure if this should be here or funny pic. (http://www.freewoodpost.com/2012/07/28/anonymous-hacks-irs-database-publishes-romney-tax-returns/)

[UChessmaster]

Still a better candidate that one of the two we had during our elections.

[Animeniax]

Not sure if this should be here or funny pic. (http://www.freewoodpost.com/2012/07/28/anonymous-hacks-irs-database-publishes-romney-tax-returns/)

Is this legit or do I believe it because I'm tired and buzzed?

[Abdula]

Does it matter. A live in contortionist, lol, wow.

[Dark Dragon]

It's a satire website. Which is why i didn't post this in the news thread.

[Kraco]

If you can afford a live in contortionist, you simply have to hire one. No way around it.

[Death BOO Z]

is that a pun? I'm not sure if you're trying to twist the words or not...

anyway, can anyone confirm if it's real or not? I haven't found evidence of the incident in any other site that doesn't direct to that source

[Animeniax]

is that a pun? I'm not sure if you're trying to twist the words or not...

anyway, can anyone confirm if it's real or not? I haven't found evidence of the incident in any other site that doesn't direct to that sourceThat's essentially all the proof we need to know it's fake. Plus it's a satire website according to DD, so it's a fake article. Too bad, was hoping anonymous actually revealed the information.

Still, anyone who follows American politics should already know Romney doesn't pay taxes and is grossly rich. And anyone who disputes that won't be convinced even if they do see the official numbers on his tax return.

[UChessmaster]

So demonoid is down, does anyone knows a good site like it?

[enkoujin]

http://torrentfreak.com/top-10-most-popular-torrent-sites-of-2012-120107/
http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/peersharing/a/torrent_search.htm

[Uchiha Barles]

xkcd comic that's kind of cool. Like the title commands, click and drag on the larger panel. Move left first.

http://xkcd.com/1110/

[rockmanj]

Jesus, that was long.

[Archangel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixsn81SqU6E&feature=youtu.be

Jesus Christ, i don't think i've ever seen a more powerful concert.

[Buffalobiian]

It would really suck to be someone on the outskirts of the thing. Might as well not be there at all..

[Xelbair]

that gangnam shit is still going on?

[darkshadow]

You know that's a really stupid question right? gangnam style is the 10th most viewed video of all time on youtube.
Just because you don't like the genre doesn't mean it will just suddenly disappear.

[Animeniax]

Don't mind him, Xelbair. But yes, it's still going on. It has nothing to do with the genre, it's a one-off one-hit wonder that will fade with time, as all such things fade. Even Paris Hilton isn't in the news that much anymore. If ds was right about genres, K-pop would be taking over the world, which it is clearly not.

[Assertn]

that gangnam shit is still going on?

This is how it works:
Hey, I, too, saw that music video on youtube! Let's do the dance, it'll be so clever and fun!

[Archangel]

This is how it works:
Hey, I, too, saw that music video on youtube! Let's do the dance, it'll be so clever and fun!
Lol so funny and ironic! Totally posting that or reddit!!!!!

Learn to enjoy shit, faggot. :/

[enkoujin]

Lol so funny and ironic! Totally posting that or reddit!!!!!

Learn to enjoy shit, faggot. :/

I really don't see what's wrong with Reddit. At least I don't think there's any *illegal* profit associated with user-submitted links/pictures.

[Animeniax]

I really don't see what's wrong with Reddit. At least I don't think there's any *illegal* profit associated with user-submitted links/pictures.

It's payback for something assertn said to arc about reddit.

Personally I dislike reddit. It distills the internet into what little bs some geeks think is worthwhile/funny and ignores the rest.

[KrayZ33]

came across this today

I don't even know where to put this, its both funny and sounds so freaking amazing


http://kenashcorp.bandcamp.com/track/touch-fluffy-tail

http://kenashcorp.bandcamp.com/track/20-percent-cooler

<3 the second one

his PvP song which won the blizzcon song-contest is amazing too imho

[Archangel]

>Not touching the fluffy tail

You gay, son?

[Archangel]

http://virginswanted.com.au/index.html

Lol

[UChessmaster]

The winning bidder cannot:

- Be intoxicated during their time with the virgin.
- Involve any one else in the consummation.
- Kiss the virgin.
- Have or expect to fulfill any fantasies or fetishes during their time with the virgin.
- Use any sex toys or other objects during their time with the virgin.
- Use a telephone or any recording device during their time with the virgin.
- The length and duration of the sex is to be agreed by both participants before consummation begins. However, the minimum consummation time is one hour.


The conditions for sex are horrible, will not bid.

HOWEVER, http://www.facebook.com/VirginsWanted/photos_stream

[Archangel]

The bids for the guy are mostly dudes.

[Buffalobiian]

The winning bidder cannot:

- Be intoxicated during their time with the virgin.
- Involve any one else in the consummation.
- Kiss the virgin.
- Have or expect to fulfill any fantasies or fetishes during their time with the virgin.
- Use any sex toys or other objects during their time with the virgin.
- Use a telephone or any recording device during their time with the virgin.
- The length and duration of the sex is to be agreed by both participants before consummation begins. However, the minimum consummation time is one hour.


The conditions for sex are horrible, will not bid.

HOWEVER, http://www.facebook.com/VirginsWanted/photos_stream

I think the conditions would have to be in place for 2 reasons:

1) to protect the two people selling: they're only selling their virginity.. not to be mutilated by whoever pays.

2) everybody involved in production: they must put things in place to differentiate that this is the selling of virginity and not sex trade

[UChessmaster]

No kissing!? 1 hour min? the girl has like over 200k bid

[Animeniax]

Those are probably disclaimer rules to make the proposition seem less seedy. Once you're with the girl, I'd imagine anything goes if she's cool with it. Not like there will be a chaperone in the room with you.

[Uchiha Barles]

Lol...taking a look at the bids for both of them, upwards of 280k for the girl, and exactly 2k for the guy. Men are fucking idiots. Never really quite understood what the obsession over virginity, other than the idea that the girl you're in a relationship with, has never been with anyone else. That's a cute idea. Plus...I just find it offensive that on any given night out in nyc you will trip over and fall into the vaginas of dozens of women more attractive than this girl. For fucking FREE. Yet somehow her virgin sex organ commands over 200k on the market. To be sure, it's not her that's annoying me, good for her. It's the idiots who are going to pay that price for this.

People are dying of starvation and lack of clean water in large numbers, on a daily basis...