View Full Version : Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2
Pages :
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
[
8]
shinta|hikari
Fri, 10-03-2008, 10:32 AM
Ah, I see. Indeed, if you place it in the context that assumes the code needs to be activated by dying (with your added qualifier and assumption about the sister), that would make sense.
There was actually a discussion before whether the person that gives away the code will die immediately after the transfer in one of the geass threads. Ironically, I was on the side that espoused immediate death upon transfer. But after several exchanges with Kraco and Ryll, I changed my mind (particularly because of the flashback with the Nun laying dead looking peaceful and satisfied). It was left quite open though, as you say.
Buffalobiian
Fri, 10-03-2008, 10:48 AM
Talking about open ended stuff....Jupiter....
Why is it even in this anime?!
RyougaZell
Fri, 10-03-2008, 11:02 AM
Geass came from Jupiter?
Damn it... remember the 'flashback' with all the Code Bearers? What happened to that?
oyabun
Sun, 10-05-2008, 07:05 AM
Then maybe there are more code bearers hanging around eh?
Hiwatari
Mon, 10-06-2008, 08:23 AM
i'm very satisfied with the ending of R2. just a few questions, not sure if it's asked here in the forums though.
1) Is lelouch still alive?
2) Is there a possibility of a third season?
Buffalobiian
Mon, 10-06-2008, 08:38 AM
i'm very satisfied with the ending of R2. just a few questions, not sure if it's asked here in the forums though.
1) Is lelouch still alive?
2) Is there a possibility of a third season?
1) There is no conclusive answer.
2) Same as above, though more likely than not, answer's no.
RyougaZell
Mon, 10-06-2008, 08:40 AM
i'm very satisfied with the ending of R2. just a few questions, not sure if it's asked here in the forums though.
1) Is lelouch still alive?
2) Is there a possibility of a third season?
Remains to personal interpretation. Some of us believe he died. Others believe he survived.
No 3rd season please...ending is fine as it was. Besides... the director already stated it was the end, not a 'end of season' nor a 'to be continued'
Hiwatari
Mon, 10-06-2008, 08:48 AM
i hope they do an OVA though.
Buffalobiian
Mon, 10-06-2008, 08:49 AM
Well, the director's retiring after this isn't he? I'm not sure if I'll mind an OVA. Just whatever doesn't fuck it up. Open endings are good in a way.
But I really wouldn't mind seeing more of C.C.
RyougaZell
Mon, 10-06-2008, 09:05 AM
@Buff:
Check my pre-order http://www.hlj.com/product/MEG71189 :D
Buffalobiian
Mon, 10-06-2008, 09:32 AM
@Buff:
Check my pre-order http://www.hlj.com/product/MEG71189 :D
:(
But really, good for you :D:D Happy that you can get it :)
That site's pretty good. If I browse it a few more times, it'll definitely lure me into something.
*searches for C.C.*
TheBladeChild
Mon, 10-06-2008, 09:57 AM
2) Is there a possibility of a third season?
The only way they could have a third season IMO is to have a completely new cast and a side plot on a smaller scale then the one in seasone 1 and 2. Personally a I wouldnt mind a OVA or movie as long as it is written and directed well enough. Since Sunrise is such a cashhog theres no reason for them not to make more money out of CG.
Kraco
Mon, 10-06-2008, 10:37 AM
Since Sunrise is such a cashhog theres no reason for them not to make more money out of CG.
It doesn't look like they are running out of new projects, though, so they don't necessarily need to drag along old projects.
I wouldn't mind some silly OVA that wouldn't much touch the plot anymore. Though it most likely would take place somewhere between the real eps as they aren't likely to ever reveal an "official" opinion of Lelouch's fate.
RyougaZell
Mon, 10-06-2008, 11:25 AM
There is an OVA already.... nobody bothered to sub it though.
Black Rebellion. A summary of the whole 1st season, narrated by CC. It was released as UMD only, packaged in the special edition of the Lost Colors game for PSP.
Link to the raw:
http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=26021
@Buff:
The only available CC figure is kinda ugly... the good CC figure is coming out in february, by the same makers of the Kallen one I am pre-ordering. I think I placed a link to its photo several pages back...
animus
Mon, 10-06-2008, 11:25 AM
As much as some of us enjoy Geass, I believe it was doing very poorly on ratings. So, it wasn't making that much money for them maybe?
Hiwatari
Wed, 10-08-2008, 07:11 AM
geass doing poorly on ratings? really? on animenewsnetwork it's ranked as no. 2!
Buffalobiian
Wed, 10-08-2008, 07:54 AM
geass doing poorly on ratings? really? on animenewsnetwork it's ranked as no. 2!
It was on that rating as soon as the first episode aired anyway. Those ratings include the "rating" and hype.
It's hard to compare R2 solely to other shows without thinking that it didn't quite live up to the hype, or Season 1. Like many have said before, the setting was different, and the show had to take on a different direction, which IMO wasn't as tense as the first.
Don't take it as me complaining though. I enjoyed the show.
Buffalobiian
Thu, 10-09-2008, 07:41 PM
[Nipponsei] Code Geass R2 Sound Episode 4.zip (http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents/%5BNipponsei%5D%20Code%20Geass%20R2%20Sound%20Epis ode%204.zip.torrent)
Board of Command
Thu, 10-09-2008, 08:31 PM
Now that I think about it, and taking the timing of the season into account...
Isn't the ending of R2 somewhat inspired by The Dark Knight? The Zero Requiem is just like Batman's method of uniting the city.
DeathscytheVII
Fri, 10-10-2008, 01:51 AM
Interesting how everyone conveniently forgot Nunnally indiscriminately murdered tens of thousands of soldiers with a nuclear strike. Oh well XD She seems to be holding herself up well enough.
Great ending, although it is a tragedy that both the main characters have to bear with the weight of their sins while the idiots of the black knights (Kallen excluded of course XD) get to enjoy the lovely world suzaku and lelouch sacrificed to build. Oh well. can't have everything.
I also love how the ending lets the audience decide whether lelouch is alive or not.
oyabun
Fri, 10-10-2008, 06:18 AM
Nobody forgot about it but I guess after you see those eyes.. Well it makes you turn your back on some things. :D
TheBladeChild
Thu, 10-16-2008, 12:01 AM
I saw this and had to post it:
http://cdimg1.crunchyroll.com/i/spire3/1d425814acbd71bcb3c83ae3cb19d9581223781449_full.jp g
David75
Thu, 10-16-2008, 10:37 AM
I saw this and had to post it:
http://cdimg1.crunchyroll.com/i/spire3/1d425814acbd71bcb3c83ae3cb19d9581223781449_full.jp g
Nuclear weapons and tables provided by Nina Einsten. That one made me laugh :D
TheBladeChild
Thu, 10-16-2008, 12:55 PM
Personally I like the written by Lacus Clyne part lol.
RyougaZell
Thu, 10-16-2008, 04:56 PM
Forget the tables...
I can't believe I missed Anya's uniform for the last episode...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/017.jpg
I mean... Im sure she used a skirt... guess she forgot it... no?
Buffalobiian
Thu, 10-16-2008, 08:36 PM
Yeah, I always had something for that scene.
Though it was more because of how you can self destruct your own mech that it rips the canopy off your oponent's machine, leaving you to threaten her at sword point.....unharmed!
But the awesomeness of that move blows away any unreality it has :D
DarthEnderX
Fri, 10-17-2008, 07:45 AM
I just watched this whole series all at once.
1. I loved it.
2. I think Lelouche is alive
3. I wanted Mina to die about 50 times during the series.
Hiwatari
Fri, 10-24-2008, 12:59 PM
hmm, i've just rewatched the last episode of R2 again. I'm more convinced now that lelouch died.
Before the final parade glorifying his victory, there was the interlude between him and suzaku about fulfilling the promise of having suzaku kill him.
Lelouch was already somewhat determined to die by bearing everything over his own shoulders.
On the day of the parade suzaku pierced his sword through him.
At the last final minute of the show where C.C is seen on the hay cart, it seems that she's in her psychic mode, probably either airing her thoughts aloud of talking to Lelouch who, if he died, may be in the World of C. I don't think the "driver" of the cart is lelouch, the built of the person don't seem to be like him.
DarthEnderX
Sat, 10-25-2008, 10:19 AM
The way I feel about that is...Lelouche is a lier. All the time. He's an artist at lying. Especially to Suzaku. He always lies to that guy. Even at the end. He's not gonna tell him he's gonna live because he knows Suzaku hates him now and wants him to die. So he lies to him. "Yeah, you get to kill me, its gonna be awesome......ya douche."
Buffalobiian
Sat, 10-25-2008, 10:32 AM
Lelouch was already somewhat determined to die by bearing everything over his own shoulders.
On the day of the parade suzaku pierced his sword through him.
Not going to tell you you're wrong. Just providing a possible explanation.
http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread.php?p=400227&postcount=1738
Junior
Sat, 10-25-2008, 12:42 PM
^ Wow, there are incredible theories in there! Some I never even would've thought of!
I really enjoyed this anime but the ending is baffling. I thought MAYBE HE HAD CC'S CODE or MAYBE CC WAS TALKING TO HIM VIA PSYCHIC CONNECTION... And then I read wikipedia and apparently his creator confirmed his death. Who knows anymore.
"Yeah, you get to kill me, its gonna be awesome......ya douche."
I can just picture Lelouch whispering the 'ya douche' part to himself. XD
I can't believe I missed Anya's uniform for the last episode...
I kinda noticed it near the end because her whole butt is exposed at the back, at some point near the end of the show, you see her quickly from behind. I was like: "Wow...Loli service. This show has it all"
...I love C.C. D:
Buffalobiian
Sat, 10-25-2008, 06:44 PM
I really enjoyed this anime but the ending is baffling. I thought MAYBE HE HAD CC'S CODE or MAYBE CC WAS TALKING TO HIM VIA PSYCHIC CONNECTION... And then I read wikipedia and apparently his creator confirmed his death. Who knows anymore.
They cited this:
Ichiro, Okouchi (October 2008). "Lelouch dead!? Was it a good one or a bad one!?". Continue 42.
Anyone read it, or can access it?
RyougaZell
Sun, 10-26-2008, 09:31 PM
They cited this:
Ichiro, Okouchi (October 2008). "Lelouch dead!? Was it a good one or a bad one!?". Continue 42.
Anyone read it, or can access it?
This is a translation of Lelouch's timeline from Continue 42 I found in a blog, but they didn't translate Okouchi's interview.
Lelouch’s Lifetime
October 26, 2008 at 8:22 pm | In CODE GEASS Lelouch of the Rebellion, CODE GEASS Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 | No Comments
From Continue Vol.42, a translation of official information regarding the events in Lelouch’s life.
Lelouch’s Lifetime
- 1962 a.t.b/Britannia
Emperor Charles vi [sic] Britannia of the Holy Empire of Britannia makes a promise with his older twin brother V.V.
Knight of Honor, Marianne the Flash, becomes an imperial consort.
- 2000 a.t.b/Britannia/Lelouch, Age 0
Lelouch is born.
He is the 11th Prince and 17th in line for throne succession. His father is Emperor Charles with Imperial Consort Marianne.
- 2004 a.t.b/Britannia/Lelouch, Age 4
Nunnally is born.
She is Lelouch’s sister. Her father is Emperor Charles with Imperial Consort Marianne.
- 2010 a.t.b/Britannia → Japan (Area 11)/Lelouch, Age 10
Marianne is assassinated; Nunnally becomes blind, her legs are crippled.
Lelouch and Nunnally are disinherited, banished; banished to Japan by Emperor Charles.
They come to know Kururugi Suzaku.
Occupation of Japan; Japan is occupied by the Holy Empire of Britannia.
Suzaku and Lelouch vow rebellion.
Lelouch is admitted to school; he goes to Ashford Academy with the last name of Lamperouge.
- 2017 a.t.b/Area 11/Lelouch, Age 17
Lelouch contracts with C.C.; the Shinjuku incident. He gains the ability (Geass) that can order around anyone for just once.
Viceroy of Area 11 is assassinated; Using his Geass power, Lelouch murders 3rd Prince Clovis.
Zero debuts; Lelouch dons a mask, takes on the name Zero, and rescues the suspect of the Viceroy assassination, Suzaku.
Zero’s mask is stolen; the mask is stolen by Arthur the cat. Lelouch panics.
Lelouch hoists the flag of the Black Knights; taking advantage of the terrorism at Lake Kawaguchi, Lelouch announces his own army.
Battle for Narita; the Black Knights defeat Britannia’s army.
Geass user Mao appears; Lelouch cooperates with Suzaku and defeats Mao.
Using the Geass on Suzaku; Zero (Lelouch) puts the Geass of “Live” on Suzaku.
Ruins are discovered on Kamine Island; V.V. guides Lelouch to the ruins.
War at Kyushu; the Chinese Federation advances from Fukuoka Base. Suzaku of Britannia and Zero (Lelouch) of the Black Knights defeat it.
Declaration at the School Festival; Lelouch participates in a school festival at Ashford Academy as a student.
Establishment of Specially Administrated Zone of Japan; 3rd Princess Euphemia plans the restoration of the Japanese people.
Euphemia massacre; Lelouch’s Geass suddenly goes out of control. Euphemia massacres Japanese people in the Specially Administrated Zone of Japan.
Concept for United State of Japan; opposing the concept for Specially Administrated Zone of Japan, Zero advocates the creation of a new nation.
Black Rebellion; Japanese people who are angered by the massacre advance to the Tokyo Settlement along side the Black Knights. With the disappearance of Zero (Lelouch), the Black Knights fall apart.
Nunnally is kidnapped; right in the middle of the Black Rebellion, Nunnally is kidnapped. Lelouch reveals the true identity of Zero to Suzaku and seeks his cooperation. However, Suzaku rejects.
Memory modified; With his memories rewritten by Emperor Charles, Lelouch returns to school at Ashford Academy as bait to capture C.C.
- 2018 a.t.b/Area 11/Lelouch, Age 18
Memories recovered; he reunites with C.C. Lelouch regains his memories.
Recovering the Black Knights; Zero is revived. The Black Knights who were imprisoned after the Black Rebellion return.
Knight of Seven welcome party; the celebration of Suzaku’s arrival at Area 11 is held at Ashford Academy. Lelouch participates as a student.
Zero exiled; Zero cooperates with the condition of exile in Viceroy Nunnally’s inherited concept of Specially Administrated Zone of Japan. One million Japanese people masquerade as Zero and are exiled to the Chinese Federation.
Tianzi’s wedding ceremony; The puppet ruler of the Chinese Federation, Tianzi, enters a strategic marriage with the 1st Prince of Britannia. Zero kidnaps Tianzi.
Fortress Battle at the 88th Emperor’s Monument - Pursuing Tianzi, the Chinese Federation goes on full-on assault against the Black Knights. The Black Knights drive them back.
Cupid Day; wearing a balloon hat on your head, you become a couple with the first person to take it off. Held at Ashford Academy.
Shirley is murdered; jealous, Lelouch’s fake brother, Rolo, murders Lelouch’s female classmate Shirley.
Geass hunt; the Geass Directorate, which researches and succeeds the Geass ability, is annihilated by Zero’s orders.
United Federation of Nations Resolution Number One; by Zero’s suggestion, the United State of Japan and United State of China unite with 47 other countries and become the United Federation of Nations.
The second decisive battle of Tokyo; as a resolution of the United Federation of Nations, the Black Knight dares to recover Japan. It is decimated by the explosion of F.L.E.I.J.A.
The Black Knights surrender; learning the power of Geass and knowing that the true identity of Zero is Lelouch, the Black Knights revolt against him.
The Ragnarök Connection; Emperor Charles and Marianne begin the Ragnarök Connection in C’s World. They are prevented by Lelouch.
Lelouch assumes Emperor; Lelouch ascends the position of Emperor of Britannia.
Imperial capital Pendragon vanishes; the imperial capital of Britannia vanishes with the F.L.E.I.J.A. that 2nd Prince Schneizel fired.
Old emperor faction VS Britannian army; Schneizel rallies. Along side the Black Knights, he enters the final decisive battle against the Britannian army led by Lelouch.
Zero Requiem; the Emperor of Britannia, Lelouch, is murdered by Zero. Zero becomes a hero
LINK:
http://atashi.wordpress.com/?s=continue
Junior
Mon, 10-27-2008, 02:57 PM
Wait, so basically...no one knows for sure whether he died or not? Or is it official?
I mean the time line says 'Murdered' and I'm not sure whether it's serious as in YES DEAD or a DECIDE YOURSELF dead.
RyougaZell
Mon, 10-27-2008, 04:29 PM
Apparently Okouchi confirmed Lelouch's death in 'Continue Vol 42' but I can't find a translation of such interview. The only thing I found from that magazine was the timeline I posted above.
RyougaZell
Mon, 10-27-2008, 11:54 PM
Double posting... but I guess its worth it.
ITS OFFICIAL, LELOUCH IS DEAD!!!
Code Geass R2 Scan from Newtype November 2008
October 11, 2008 at 2:17 am | In CODE GEASS Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 |
The Code Geass spread from the November 2008 issue of Newtype caught my eye, specifically this one:
Link to scan on Moe Imouto, credits to the user. I’ll try to get my own scan up sometime soon.
The text reads:
September 28th, ‘08. The story of “Code Geass”, spanning roughly two years—Lelouch’s rebellion met its finale.
Lelouch, who plotted rebellion against his first love, friends, father, mother, and God, offered his own life to become a tyrant emperor.
The mask of Zero that Lelouch wore was succeeded by his one and only friend, Suzaku, for him to become the world’s savior.
His father yearned for the “past”, his brother insisted on “today”. However, Lelouch wished for “tomorrow”.
Believing in not the past or today, but the “tomorrow” that has yet to be seen.
Now that everything is over, has Lelouch fallen into deep slumber? In eternal rest that the ageless and immortal witch watches over.
From the present to the future. From an instant to perpetuity. Will the story be passed down?
The Resting Place of the Rebellion
Requiem
The tyrant emperor Lelouch gained F.L.E.I.J.A. and ruled the world. When the hatred and anger all over the world were focused on him, he played his final hand. It was the Zero Requiem. In a parade, just like a year ago, Zero, the masked man, appeared in front of the masses. Then he thrust a sword through Lelouch. The tyrant emperor fell and Zero became a hero again. Those who knew Lelouch and Zero’s thoughts shed tears and those who were ignorant cheered. The world is aiming for tomorrow. That was Lelouch’s final wish.
Yep, rest in peace, Lelouch-kun…
SCAN: http://moe.imouto.org/post/show/44534/c-c-code_geass-lelouch_lamperouge
LINK: http://atashi.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/code-geass-r2-scan-from-newtype-november-2008/
Buffalobiian
Tue, 10-28-2008, 01:29 AM
I'm somewhat confused by that. Who said that?
Good find there Ryouga. I'll still see if I can find that interview though.
You'll need something as concrete as a quote from the writer saying "Yep, Lelouch is dead" to convince us fans :D (since that last line wasn't actually in the scan)
Kraco
Tue, 10-28-2008, 02:44 AM
Yeah. That text reveals even less than the final episode itself. Besides, even if you found some "official" statement, it wouldn't be worth that much. If they wanted to make absolutely clear Lelouch is dead, they would have placed some old geezer or a woman to drive that cart, uncovered. But since they did what they did, it's obvious they wanted to leave a backdoor for those whose most earnest wish was to see Lelouch and C.C. live happily ever after. So, now that the story has a life of its own, any "official" statement would be only the opinion of the person giving the statement. Nothing more, nothing less.
masamuneehs
Tue, 10-28-2008, 07:45 AM
um, i think he's dead personally, but let me just step in and say that, nowhere in that article, is there anything truly confirming that he's dead.
Let's break it down, shall we? I'm in (parenthesis!)
Lelouch’s rebellion met its finale.
(the rebellion led by Lelouch came to its end)
Lelouch, who plotted rebellion against his first love, friends, father, mother, and God, offered his own life to become a tyrant emperor.
(offered his own life to become a tyrant emperor, not to be 'remembered as a tyrant emperor', certainly not 'to die as a tyrant emperor'. Also, offering his life (to Suzaku, whose loyalty was necessary for his becoming emperor) isn't the same as dying.)
The mask of Zero that Lelouch wore was succeeded by his one and only friend, Suzaku, for him to become the world’s savior.
(Suzaku became Zero. This, as Area 11 emigration officials will tell us, does not mean much of anything, as apparently little children can become Zero also. More literally, Lelouch quit being Zero for good to let Suzaku do it.)
His father yearned for the “past”, his brother insisted on “today”. However, Lelouch wished for “tomorrow”.
(So, he wished for the future... Strange, that doesn't fall in line with accepting death at all...)
Believing in not the past or today, but the “tomorrow” that has yet to be seen.
Now that everything is over, has Lelouch fallen into deep slumber? In eternal rest that the ageless and immortal witch watches over.
(Is he dead? Is he in a coma? "rest" from what? He's with C.C.? Watched over by C.C.? -Major counter point here that, if this is taken as talking about C.C., it's talking about C.C. with her code still in tact, meaning she couldn't have given it to Lelouch, meaning sword to the chest is the death-)
From the present to the future. From an instant to perpetuity. Will the story be passed down?
The Resting Place of the Rebellion
Requiem
The tyrant emperor Lelouch gained F.L.E.I.J.A. and ruled the world. When the hatred and anger all over the world were focused on him, he played his final hand. It was the Zero Requiem. In a parade, just like a year ago, Zero, the masked man, appeared in front of the masses. Then he thrust a sword through Lelouch. The tyrant emperor fell and Zero became a hero again. Those who knew Lelouch and Zero’s thoughts shed tears and those who were ignorant cheered. The world is aiming for tomorrow. That was Lelouch’s final wish.
(He got stabbed, he fell. Nothing here about death. His final wish is also not a problem. There's no reason to say that he would die after making his final wish (or seeing it achieved).
Let's use a parallel. A 60 year old man has a heart attack. Seeing his life clearly now that it's almost been taken, he reunites with his estranged son, who is engaged to be married. He makes a wish that will be his sole focus and goal for the rest of his life (his final wish), that he will live to see his grand children and help raise them to make up for his errors. Now, of course, he doesn't just flop dead. Quite the opposite. He gets in better shape, starts exercising, quits smoking, etc etc. Even when he gets his "final wish" that the grandchildren are born and he helps raise them for a few years, he doesn't just drop dead then either. He keeps on living because that's the best way he can fulfill his final wish.
And, of course, if you think about one particular pizza-eating character who Lelouch was pretty close too and who was always focused on the past until she decided to make a future involving Lelouch her aim, then, well...
finally, some lols
The “Lelouch” who died was Sayoko, who was having a loyalty-off with Jeremiah and decided to tell him she was hardcore by 1-uping the storm of loyalty and dying for Lelouch.
theory doesn’t really make sense since she was AT OUGI AND VILETTA’S WEDDING.
That was Lelouch disguised as Sayoko, duh.
Nunnally’s death was official for a time because for all intents and purposes, they intended on keeping her dead. However they ran into some un-foreseeable problems with the workings of R2 that basically messed the whole series up and they had to alter most of the plot, Nunnally’s death being part of that which had to be altered.
Lol wat.…Fuck Lelouch, I just want to know how the hell Orenji hid a backup Siegfried in the original Siegfried.
the more i think about this, the more I think about THIS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrodingers_cat)
Didn't somebody bring this up before? Also, we need us some Lelouch is Schroedinger's Cat themed demotivational posters...
RyougaZell
Tue, 10-28-2008, 09:50 AM
Bleh, so I guess not knowing Kanji had me fall for the 'translation'.
I'll keep searching for Okuchi's interview though. But I won't mark it as official until someone who can read kanji confirms it.
What did the scan say then? The text was supposedely from the side bar btw.
Buffalobiian
Tue, 10-28-2008, 06:23 PM
It was a translated version of the scan:
The Code Geass spread from the November 2008 issue of Newtype caught my eye, specifically this one:
Link to scan on Moe Imouto, credits to the user. I’ll try to get my own scan up sometime soon.
The text reads:
(top left text) September 28th, ‘08. The story of “Code Geass”, spanning roughly two years—Lelouch’s rebellion met its finale.
Lelouch, who plotted rebellion against his first love, friends, father, mother, and God, offered his own life to become a tyrant emperor.
The mask of Zero that Lelouch wore was succeeded by his one and only friend, Suzaku, for him to become the world’s savior.
His father yearned for the “past”, his brother insisted on “today”. However, Lelouch wished for “tomorrow”.
Believing in not the past or today, but the “tomorrow” that has yet to be seen.
Now that everything is over, has Lelouch fallen into deep slumber? In eternal rest that the ageless and immortal witch watches over.
From the present to the future. From an instant to perpetuity. Will the story be passed down?
The Resting Place of the Rebellion
Requiem
(bottom right black bar text)
The tyrant emperor Lelouch gained F.L.E.I.J.A. and ruled the world. When the hatred and anger all over the world were focused on him, he played his final hand. It was the Zero Requiem. In a parade, just like a year ago, Zero, the masked man, appeared in front of the masses. Then he thrust a sword through Lelouch. The tyrant emperor fell and Zero became a hero again. Those who knew Lelouch and Zero’s thoughts shed tears and those who were ignorant cheered. The world is aiming for tomorrow. That was Lelouch’s final wish.
Yep, rest in peace, Lelouch-kun…
Basically, the scan never said "Lelouch died".
Buffalobiian
Wed, 11-05-2008, 06:35 PM
[Nipponsei] Code Geass R2 Sound Episode 5.zip (http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents/%5BNipponsei%5D%20Code%20Geass%20R2%20Sound%20Epis ode%205.zip.torrent)
RyougaZell
Wed, 11-05-2008, 11:48 PM
Who's character song is there this time?
I liked Kallen's 'One More Chance' from Vol 4
Junior
Mon, 11-10-2008, 04:03 PM
Who's character song is there this time?
I liked Kallen's 'One More Chance' from Vol 4
I'm actually gonna download that one now and give it a shot. Have you heard all the character songs?
I enjoyed C.C's songs. They felt...elegant and mysteriously creepy. Especially Reincarnation (which is my favourite mostly because of the lyrics and Yukana's sexy voice)
oh...and Rollo's. It's cute. And caused everyone to think he's gay. Nice. *le sigh*
RyougaZell
Mon, 11-10-2008, 04:22 PM
Just Kallen's One More Chance one of Lelouch's whose title I can't remember right now.
I've actually download them all though, but until I update my ipod I don't think I'll listen to them.
Archangel
Wed, 11-12-2008, 02:37 PM
I'm on episode 15 now
Well i was kind of sad for Rolo at first but now i don't give a fuck, give me my shirley back :mad:
Edit1: Post memory loss CC is even hotter than the original
shinta|hikari
Wed, 11-12-2008, 08:05 PM
I loved her too, but then after a few episodes I started getting withdrawal symptoms (like I am now) because of the lack of the dry, sarcastic, and mysterious version.
RyougaZell
Wed, 11-12-2008, 09:55 PM
Some interesting Info.
New Novel:
Code Geass - Knight of Rounds
Marianne is Knight of Six
Bismark is not Knight of One yet
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/fa327ee9dd.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5277/1226031326931wn7.jpg
A screenshot of Picture Drama #4
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o464/romanceknigh/53474_448.jpg
animus
Thu, 11-13-2008, 08:34 AM
Huh? Is that Rakshata? The mannerisms fit, but the look not quite so much.
Buffalobiian
Thu, 11-13-2008, 09:25 AM
It's not even her skin colour.
Archangel
Thu, 11-13-2008, 02:49 PM
Awww why the hell did Rolo have to die like that? Now i can't stay mad at him anymore :(
Well i still have my hate for the emperor and Suzaku to keep me warm at night
Archangel
Thu, 11-13-2008, 05:45 PM
Double post, i'm very sorry but i simply have to say:
That ending was fucking brilliant!!!
How the hell did they manage to make me love every single character in the end after trying so hard to make me hate so many of them before?
Jesus to make Lelouch die like that... i mean i usually just can't get my head around endings where the main character dies in the "grand finale" but the way they did this was just... it was a masterpiece.
I don't regret having sped through the whole anime, it was dam worth it.
I have so many mixed feelings that i'm not even sure how to put them all in just one post, that's messed up :D
In short, when can we get code geass 3 with a zombie lelouch? :p
TheBladeChild
Thu, 11-13-2008, 07:27 PM
Lol archie, you really need to read the several pages back in this thread. Season 3 probably wont happen, at least with the same character it wont. My guess is there will be a movie or a OVA.
RyougaZell
Fri, 11-14-2008, 08:47 AM
Meanwhile... you can read one the four mangas... two novel series... or see the picture dramas
Archangel
Fri, 11-14-2008, 08:49 AM
Yeah ive read the pages, and i have to say i'll go with the "Emperor's Code" theory, because that means that both my favorite characters will live happily ever after :D
I was kidding about the third season, i hope they leave the series just the way it is, unless they do something with CC and some other character about 300 years or so before this main story ever happening. That way i could learn her true name and the show would be perfect.
Actually the show is so perfect in my eyes that an OVA or a movie would probably just ruin it even if just a little bit.
Kraco
Fri, 11-14-2008, 11:44 AM
Actually the show is so perfect in my eyes that an OVA or a movie would probably just ruin it even if just a little bit.
Yeah. An OVA that would touch the plot would be a dangerous thing indeed. And unnecessary. However, I wouldn't mind a fanservice ova taking place somewhere in the middle of the series, one that would have nothing to do with the story but everything to do with the characters.
Archangel
Fri, 11-14-2008, 11:50 AM
Yeah. An OVA that would touch the plot would be a dangerous thing indeed. And unnecessary. However, I wouldn't mind a fanservice ova taking place somewhere in the middle of the series, one that would have nothing to do with the story but everything to do with the characters.
Perhaps something between the 1 year time jump?
Kraco
Fri, 11-14-2008, 12:25 PM
If between means during, then no. I'm mainly interested in the Lelouch-C.C. couple (Kallen could be there as a third wheel), and so the time jump period would be troublesome in many ways.
I mean, C.C. and Kallen were real fanservice queens.
Archangel
Fri, 11-14-2008, 12:32 PM
I mean, C.C. and Kallen were real fanservice queens.
Lol no kidding, some of those outfits were down right preposterous ( i loved them :D )
Like i said, i would love something about CC's past, since i think there is no way to add Lelouch to the mix without somehow fucking up the original series.
Buffalobiian
Fri, 11-14-2008, 09:14 PM
If between means during, then no. I'm mainly interested in the Lelouch-C.C. couple
Like i said, i would love something about CC's past, since i think there is no way to add Lelouch to the mix without somehow fucking up the original series.
C.C. x Loli-Prince-Lelouch. Done :D
shinta|hikari
Fri, 11-14-2008, 10:57 PM
WTF. Don't you mean shota..?
Buffalobiian
Fri, 11-14-2008, 11:06 PM
WTF. Don't you mean shota..?
Shota's the male term?
Edit: Man, I should be ashamed :o
TheBladeChild
Sat, 11-15-2008, 12:20 AM
Lol shame Archie you missed out on this battle:
http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread.php?t=16180&highlight=hottest+girl+code+geass
It more or less spit the forum members down the middle.
RyougaZell
Sat, 11-15-2008, 12:22 AM
C.C. x Shota-Prince-Lelouch. Done :D
And people blame me for saying C.C. is a pedo :D
NeoCybercoin
Mon, 11-17-2008, 03:23 PM
http://fc12.deviantart.com/fs26/f/2008/149/a/3/Code_Geass___Refraining_by_FoxxFireArt.png
Artist found on deviantart
Foxxfireart (http://foxxfireart.deviantart.com/)
Most of the comics are like this. This guy is brillaint
RyougaZell
Mon, 11-17-2008, 04:41 PM
That guy is amazing
I had seen some of his 4koma before, but I didn't know he made more. Just saw em all. They are gold.
darkshadow
Mon, 11-17-2008, 06:19 PM
Finished it yesterday, and the ending, wow, just wow.
That's all I can say really.....
fucking magnificent................
Kraco
Mon, 11-17-2008, 06:20 PM
Foxxfireart (http://foxxfireart.deviantart.com/)
Most of the comics are like this. This guy is brillaint
That's some seriously good stuff! Thanks for the link, NeoCybercoin.
Buffalobiian
Tue, 12-09-2008, 03:48 AM
I don't know if the feeling can be described as "sad". Too bad doujins just all lack something original artworks have that make C.C. totally sexy.
http://www.animepaper.net/gallery/scans/toprated/item211898/
Munsu
Fri, 12-26-2008, 07:21 AM
Possibly more Code Geass being planned?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-12-25/sunrise-indicates-possibility-of-more-code-geass
Kraco
Fri, 12-26-2008, 04:35 PM
Hah hah. I hope they don't think they invented another Gundam... I wouldn't mind some silly ovas (that make C.C. and Lelouch considerably closer to each other) but I wouldn't like anything that screws up the story and the rather stylish ending.
Archangel
Fri, 12-26-2008, 05:37 PM
I hope it's a prequel
RyougaZell
Fri, 12-26-2008, 06:28 PM
While Lelouch stays dead and CC doesn't appear it will be fine by me.
Seriously... VV and CC could not have been the only Code Bearers in the whole planet... more Geass users surely are out there.
Or maybe they will only do an alternative universe a la gundam.
Ryllharu
Fri, 12-26-2008, 07:27 PM
Or maybe they will only do an alternative universe a la gundam.This sadly, was what I was thinking.
Next we will have C Code Geass (a looooove story), then Code Geass Squadron, followed by Code Geass ROOT and Code Geass ROOT Fate.
Or...alternatively, we'd see a retelling starring Tian Zi this time, but in another country and she'd wear maid clothes, and that would be followed by a prequel about her super badass mother. All the other characters would obviously be older, and Euphemia would be the headmaster of the Academy, Nina her trusty assistant.
Jokes aside, while I'd love to see more Geass-universe stories (written like the first season as opposed to the second for a slightly more adult audience), I felt that they told all you can tell with what they did. They even did the Orbital Weapon bit.
RyougaZell
Wed, 01-07-2009, 05:12 PM
From the Code Geass R2 Complete Official Guidebook...
Lelouch is 'dead' (http://community.livejournal.com/code_geass/1178870.html)
Kraco
Wed, 01-07-2009, 05:22 PM
Haha. I wonder what kind of a poor fan needs an official guide to tell him how a series ended... Well, it's of course nothing but the last way to milk the brand for the studio. But at the very least that should make sure they won't make unnecessary sequels anymore.
Ryllharu
Wed, 01-07-2009, 05:31 PM
My previous jokes aside, I thought about the "alternate" versions Sunrise may or may not do to continue milking the Code Geass franchise (much like their other popular title, Gundam). I got bored over the weekend, and read a few chapters out of Code Geass: The Nightmare of Nunnally (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=6751). [mangaupdates]. A lot like the manga versions of Mai-Hime and Mai Otome, it uses the basic premise of the anime and then messes around with it enough that the two series are quite different.
It's possible (far outside chance) they'd make an animated version of this. The reason? The two authors wrote the script for the original series.
Archangel
Wed, 01-07-2009, 05:47 PM
From the Code Geass R2 Complete Official Guidebook...
Lelouch is 'dead' (http://community.livejournal.com/code_geass/1178870.html)
With an ending like that Lelouch's fate isn't in the hands of its creators, but in the hands of the fans.
For me, Lelouch is still alive and laughing his ass off at Suzaku who got epically screwed one last time.
RyougaZell
Wed, 01-07-2009, 05:48 PM
Hey Ryll... since we are talking about the manga... do you happen to know how the fourth manga is called? The one that is set on Feudal Japan and Lelouch's Geass summons the Lancelot?
I like Knightmare of Nunnally for the sole fact there are 4 (or 5?) more Geass Users.
Ryllharu
Wed, 01-07-2009, 05:55 PM
I only knew of the manga version of the anime and Nightmare of Nunnally.
RyougaZell
Wed, 01-07-2009, 10:26 PM
There are 4 mangas.
- Lelouch of the Rebellion - Which does NOT have knightmares... and the sole follower of Zero is Kallen. No Black Knights here.
- Knightmare of Nunnally -
- Suzaku of the Counterattack
And the feudal one I spoke about.
EDIT:
- Tales of an Alternate Shogunate (wikipedia finally added info on it)
Manga
Kadokawa Shoten has published four manga adaptations of Code Geass, each containing alternate storylines.[30]
The first, Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion, by Majiko~!, focused on the protagonist of the series, Lelouch Lamperouge. It was originally serialized Monthly Asuka, starting in October 2006. The manga follows the same basic plot with the anime version with slight difference. Primarily, Knightmare Frames does not exist.
The second, Code Geass: Suzaku of the Counterattack (コードギアス 反攻のスザク, Kōdo Giasu: Hankō no Suzaku?), serialized in Beans A magazine, focused on Suzaku Kururugi. Written by Atsuro Yomino, it is set in an alternate reality where Knightmare Frames do not exist. Wearing a human-sized enhancement suit provided by Lloyd to greatly boost his physical ability, Suzaku takes on the identity of Lancelot, a masked government-sponsored crime fighter and superhero. Opposed is the criminal organization known as the Black Knights.
Code Geass: Nightmare of Nunnally (コードギアス ナイトメア・オブ・ナナリー, Kōdo Giasu Naitomea Obu Nanarī?), focused on Lelouch's sister Nunnally Lamperouge, was serialized in Comp Ace and written by Tomomasa Takuma.[30] When Lelouch goes missing in the incident at Shinjuku Ghetto, Nunnally encounters an entity called Nemo, which restores her health and grants her the ability to summon the Knightmare Frame Mark Nemo. Using these, Nunnally attempts to seek out the whereabouts of her brother. However, her actions rouse the interest of the elite covert-ops Britannian Special Foreign Legion "Irregulars," which seeks to capture or kill her.
The most recent manga adaptation, Code Geass: Tales of an Alternate Shogunate ( 幕末異聞録 コードギアス 反逆のルルーシュ, Code Geass: Tales of an Alternate Shogunate?), was serialized in Kerokero Ace. It is set in an alternate history in 1853 with new characters. Britannia's Black Ships appear in the harbor of Uraga. Some years later, Lelouch Lamperouge (琉々朱・爛縁侍, Lelouch Lamperouge?) — brother to a young blind girl named Nunnally (那奈離, Nunnally?) — is the commander of the military counterinsurgence brigade known as the Shinsengumi, formed under the orders of the Shogunate to fight the Black Revolutionaries (黒の維新団, Kuro no Ishin Dan?), a rebel group led by a mysterious masked individual known as Rei (零, lit. Zero?). In fact, these two organizations are one and the same, and they seek to combat in influences of Britannia. Geass is the ability to call upon and summon the armored entities referred to as Knightmares (騎士銘亜, Knightmares?); Lancelot (蘭須露斗, Lancelot?) is one such Knightmare.
Three of the manga series have been licensed for an English language release in North America by Bandai Entertainment.[31].
masamuneehs
Thu, 01-08-2009, 07:21 AM
a predictable and blatant attempt to milk some more money out of the cow. Sure, Geass's TV ratings aren't up there with Gundam, but it did create a lot of cash flow for an original anime.
It's possible that whatever they shovel out could be half-decent, but i'm willing to bet it'll only appeal to the fans, (which is to say, it'll suck ass but many of the fans will love it because it's Code Geass related/based).
David75
Thu, 01-08-2009, 07:34 AM
a predictable and blatant attempt to milk some more money out of the cow. Sure, Geass's TV ratings aren't up there with Gundam, but it did create a lot of cash flow for an original anime.
It's possible that whatever they shovel out could be half-decent, but i'm willing to bet it'll only appeal to the fans, (which is to say, it'll suck ass but many of the fans will love it because it's Code Geass related/based).
Are figures for cash flow and so on available?
if yes, I'm interrested in knowing how much money a good anime can make
Kraco
Thu, 01-08-2009, 07:40 AM
Considering financial crises seem to be frequent houseguests for anime companies, I'd say an anime that really makes money is a rarity (possibly only things like Ghibli and other major movies). Also the fact all the personnel working for an anime production, if you believe the articles, are in a position little better than slaves, doesn't speak for any gold mines. So, it's somewhat understandable if they try to get every last yen out of a title.
Besides, I wouldn't mind seeing a few Code Geass OVAs as long as they don't touch the main story. Some C.C. fanservice would be very welcome...
RyougaZell
Thu, 01-08-2009, 10:02 AM
a predictable and blatant attempt to milk some more money out of the cow. Sure, Geass's TV ratings aren't up there with Gundam, but it did create a lot of cash flow for an original anime.
It's possible that whatever they shovel out could be half-decent, but i'm willing to bet it'll only appeal to the fans, (which is to say, it'll suck ass but many of the fans will love it because it's Code Geass related/based).
Not saying they are good but... three of the four mangas have been out for a while.
Lelouch of the Rebellion manga has 5 volumes already
Suzaku of the Counterattack ended on volume 2 around halfway through the first anime airing.
Knightmare of Nunnally I believe has 3 volumes out.
Alternate Shogunate is the only manga that started after R2 ended.
We also have several novel series. A retelling of 1st season with many details seen only on picture dramas with 5 volumes. And a second set for 2nd season, which I don't know how many volumes it has.
Also a single volume named Red Tracks which is Kallen centric and Post R2, telling how she entered medical school and cut ties with everyone except Nunnally and Milly. I can't say it for sure, but reading on forums I saw that this supposedely happened after Kallen received the Guren Key back in a box signed by Lelouch with only the following phrase: "fulfill your dreams, that is my tiny little wish"
Yukimura
Tue, 01-27-2009, 09:58 AM
Gode Geass R2 - Turn 12.31 Picture Drama (1080p H264) - [schneizelXkannonOTP] (http://xabin.mine.nu/gg-tracker/torrents/%5BschneizelXkannonOTP%5D_Code_Geass_R2_-_Turn_12.31_-_Picture_Drama_6_%5B1080p,h264%5D_%5BC2DDAB54%5D.m kv.torrent)
Code Geass R2 - Turn 12.31 Picture Drama (400p XviD) - [schneizelXkannonOTP] (http://xabin.mine.nu/gg-tracker/torrents/%5BschneizelXkannonOTP%5D_Code_Geass_R2_-_Turn_12.31_-_Picture_Drama_6_%5B400p,XviD%5D_%5BEBBD1BD5%5D.mk v.torrent)
Not as revealing as some of the others but it adds even more circumstantial evidence to the whole Kannon is flamingly gay for Schneizel argument (as if more was needed). Also reveals their first meeting, quite abnormal if you ask me.
Sidnne
Tue, 04-28-2009, 09:32 PM
I just discovered this anime this past weekend when YouTube suggested one of the episodes. I ended up watching every single episode; I just couldn't stop!
I think this might be the best anime I have ever seen. Everything about it was just great.
Usually, I don't enjoy the sci-fi/futuristic anime, I prefer the swords and samurai and ninja anime. But the way Code Geass was done made it incredible. The story was just pure genius.
And, as much as I didn't want to see it end, I was very happy with the ending and I pray that they don't ever make anymore or do anything to jeopardize its greatness.
digitalrurouni
Tue, 04-28-2009, 11:00 PM
I would agree with you on that Sidnne for the 1st season. The 2nd season is nowhere as near as good as the first season.
That could be because the 1st season I thought was quite groundbreaking in terms of the story and the characters and all the baggage that they carried.
The 2nd season, you are not as much in awe.
Sidnne
Thu, 05-14-2009, 12:14 PM
Hmmm... I don't know, I enjoyed the 2nd season as much as the 1st. I thought it was equally as intelligent and still had a great deal of philosophical elements.
I also felt like season 2 had just as many "Oh shit!" moments as the first.
But, I watched both seasons right in succession over a single weekend, without any time gap between. So for me it might as well have been all one season. That may have something to do with the perception.
shinta|hikari
Thu, 05-14-2009, 11:35 PM
The problem with the second season was the amount of material it covered in such a short period of time. It can be said that the developments in the 2nd season amount to twice that of the first (including all the sudden WTF revelations, which would have been much better and easier to accept had it been hinted at and eased in) but had the same amount of time to present it.
BTW, since you have just watched it, do you think Lelouch is dead or alive? I know the anime purposefully made it vague and inconclusive, but I would like to hear your personal opinion, and maybe a brief explanation.
Sidnne
Thu, 05-14-2009, 11:52 PM
Well, I think he is alive based on the way the anime left it. I don't know if it was different in the manga.
But, because they purposely hid the the face of the person driving the carriage and then when CC said "isn't that right, Lelouch?" she kind of looked in the direction of the driver. So that leads me to believe that it was him and she was speaking directly to him, not just thinking out loud.
That isn't to say he wasn't really stabbed by Suzaku, but that he was immortal at that point having killed Charles in the other realm and gaining his immortality.
shinta|hikari
Fri, 05-15-2009, 12:05 AM
The manga actually came after the anime, so the anime is the only material that contains the ending, if I'm not mistaken.
I actually agree with you, except for the last part. I think he gained immortality from C.C. instead of Charles. You don't need to kill the previous geass master to obtain immortality after all. Also this way, C.C. gets her wish of dying with a smile, having spent her remaining days (should be quite long, judging from her looks) with Lelouch.
Buffalobiian
Thu, 06-11-2009, 04:40 AM
With this many CC fans here, I feel worse not posting this than digging this thread from the grave.
One of those pics that make you call in <3 all over again. :o
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8620/largeanimepaperscanscodz.jpg
source: http://www.animepaper.net/gallery/scans/toprated/item241585/
shinta|hikari
Thu, 06-11-2009, 04:47 AM
Saw this before, but didn't save it. A C.C. smiling like that is not C.C. Just kinda feels OOC.
Archangel
Thu, 06-11-2009, 07:42 AM
Saw this before, but didn't save it. A C.C. smiling like that is not C.C. Just kinda feels OOC.
Well, maid CC is 10 times sexier than it's cold counterpart anyway :p
RyougaZell
Thu, 06-11-2009, 08:43 AM
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/th_01-1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/01-1.jpg)
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/th_03.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/03.jpg)
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/th_01.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/RyougaZell/01.jpg)
Archangel
Thu, 06-11-2009, 09:18 AM
Are the last 2 characters manga exclusive?
Buffalobiian
Thu, 06-11-2009, 09:22 AM
That last pic is screaming SABER!! :)
RyougaZell
Thu, 06-11-2009, 09:25 AM
Are the last 2 characters manga exclusive?
Its your all time favorite CC.
The other one is Mao... not the same Mao of the series though... its an irregular Geass user whose Geass is 'Refrain'. It has the same effects as the refrain drug of the original series.
Archangel
Thu, 06-11-2009, 11:24 AM
/me gets a boner
I want an anime featuring that CC !!
RyougaZell
Sat, 12-05-2009, 12:37 AM
Bandai's mobile phone website m-pub.channel.or.jp is hosting a graphic that reads as follows:
New Code Geass Project Launch Green-Lit!
Wait for more info in 2010!!
The image adds that this project represents a "rebirth" and that Geass will take a new step starting today. The message is signed with the name, "ZERO."
In the January 2009 issue of Gakken's Animedia magazine, the Sunrise anime studio indicated the possibility of more plans for its Code Geass science-fiction franchise. Sunrise created and animated the Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion television anime series and its R2 sequel. Sunrise did not indicate the format that any hypothetical future plans might take. The Adult Swim television programming block ran Bandai Entertainment's adaptation of the R2 sequel in North America.
Image © Sunrise/Project Geass, MBS
Character Design © CLAMP
Source: ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-04/new-code-geass-project-launch-revealed)
Buffalobiian
Sat, 12-05-2009, 01:32 AM
Well if it's only called "Zero", it could well be following Suzaku in pursuit of world order after R2.
Code Geass will never be the same without Lelouch and C.C. . (and hence I think they'll appear in there somehow). Rebirth all but means Resurrection.
digitalrurouni
Sat, 12-05-2009, 01:50 AM
I agree with Buffalo wholeheartedly. I cant wait for it.
Kraco
Sat, 12-05-2009, 03:14 AM
Honestly with only Suzaku, Kallen, and some minor characters I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for anything amazing. C.C. is still around but what is she without Lelouch? If it's just Suzaku and Kallen running around it won't feel anything more than dvd extras would.
The show was all about Lelouch - all about Lelouch and C.C. for C.C. fans like me.
But maybe I'm just being far too pessimistic after a poorly slept night...
Archangel
Sat, 12-05-2009, 03:28 AM
God i do hope you're all horribly wrong about this
R2 had one of the best ending i've ever seen, i would hate for anything that would mess that up. I'm hoping this will just be a spinoff adaptation, maybe regarding "Nightmare of Nunnaly" since it seems to be the most successful of them
Pandadice
Sat, 12-05-2009, 04:52 AM
^i agree. one of the best endings out there. A sequel would ruin that, imo.
maybe by "rebirth" it means it's getting one of those series summery movies that so many shows get these days :\
the ttgl movies are just retellings of the series, right? i could see that as being all that this is.
shinta|hikari
Sat, 12-05-2009, 06:23 AM
I wouldn't mind (translated as would absolutely love) more C.C., but only if Lelouch is present. I personally believe he is still alive and well, together with the pizza loving witch, so I am optimistic even if this is indeed a sequel.
TheBladeChild
Sat, 12-05-2009, 06:43 AM
I dont know how to react to this:
possibility of more C.C(EPIC win)
possibility of more Suzaku(lose)
possibility of more Kallen(win)
possibilty of more Lelouch(win)
low chance of topping last season ending(lose)
Im kinda mixed on this one. I'll wait for more news of the series if it is happening at all.
Buffalobiian
Sat, 12-05-2009, 09:18 AM
The show was all about Lelouch - all about Lelouch and C.C. for C.C. fans like me.
And hence my (hence - ) remark. I believe Sunrise knows this (and god hope they do), and somehow it'll have Lelouch.
Seriously, what is the meaning of calling a show Code Geass if the Code and Geass bearers aren't in it? I am 100% confident in their (re)appearance.
I never thought too highly of the ending, but I still liked it. After all this time since R2 ended, my desire to see more C.C. surpasses the desire to leave the ending as it is.
maybe by "rebirth" it means it's getting one of those series summery movies that so many shows get these days :\
Now really, if they did that, I will seriously consider express-mailing Sunrise a box of turd and make sure they sign upon delivery.
RyougaZell
Sat, 12-05-2009, 01:14 PM
I place my bet on a Spinoff. Though I do not want to see either Suzaku of the Counterattack nor Nightmare of Nunnally nor Code Geass Manga (this one is the same as the anime but doesn't have knightmares)
Suzaku of the countterattack for one, focus on Suzaku, but had enough differences... as Lelouch abandoning the Black Knights leaving Kallen as 'Zero'
Nightmare of Nunnally has what I wished happened on the Code Geass anime... more Geass users... but its a complete utter mess at halfpoint. Not enough Lelouch, Kallen or CC either.
The Code Geass manga without knightmares is boring,
I actually want to see the Code Geass Stories of the Shogunate... an alternate story that takes place in old japan. The Black Knights are the Shinsengumi and the Geass power allows them to summon Knightmares out of nowhere. Maybe not...
An R3 would need to have Lelouch living at the end... and I don't want that.
Just give me an alternate universe with the same characters in another role.
EDIT:
Select all the post to see explanation of manga. Hidden because Archie cares about 4 year old mangas that will never get animated and have been published in the states for over 2 years now legally.
Archangel
Sat, 12-05-2009, 01:19 PM
So Zell... how about giving those spoiler rules another nice read?
Because you fucked like 2 mangas for me with just the first couple of lines...
RyougaZell
Sat, 12-05-2009, 01:26 PM
So Zell... how about giving those spoiler rules another nice read?
Because you fucked like 2 mangas for me with just the first couple of lines...
Hidden them so only those that want can read it.
Though I don't see why you care, since you obviously skipped reading 4 year old mangas that have been legally published in english for two years now...
Archangel
Sat, 12-05-2009, 01:28 PM
Just because i haven't read them yet doesn't mean i won't eventually and i would like to make that choice myself instead of having others doing it for me
Anyway i'm not asking for much, just the following of the rules
Ryllharu
Sat, 12-05-2009, 04:33 PM
Nightmare of Nunnally has what I wished happened on the Code Geass anime...but its a complete utter mess at halfpoint.
I'm quoting this, including a part that was hidden because I think it is a fair assessment about the quality of the series, and fairly accurate too, especially because of the Afterword by the artist.
I think I'd really enjoy seeing Nightmare of Nunnally, provided the original CG scriptwriters and series director worked to clean up the inconsistencies, rework the pacing, and perhaps extend the plot out a bit so it could hit a few more interesting nuances (like various forces involved).
The biggest problem with NoN is that you had to know Code Geass entirely. There was just so much left unexplained under the assumption that the readers had seen the series. The work could never stand on its own in the current format.
Luckily for us, the artist even admitted all this at the end of the series, calling certain areas a failure because he was "too much of a fan."
All that said, I thought it was a really interesting premise, and wouldn't mind seeing a reworked and improved version as an anime.
masamuneehs
Sun, 12-06-2009, 01:43 AM
after watching anime for a while, hearing this kind of news doesn't really bring me any reactions at all. it's vague enough that we might just be getting some compilation movies or a whole new series.
i guess, with a proven winner like Geass, Sunrise isn't going to stop riding it until the horse is totally dead (not bringing in enough money). it's not surprising in any way, and all i can honestly say is i don't care what the hell they do with it so long as they don't absolutely make a trainwreck out of it
which is probably exactly what they are going to do
DarthEnderX
Mon, 12-07-2009, 08:26 AM
I must be the only one here that hated the end of season 2.
Archangel
Mon, 12-07-2009, 11:26 AM
I must be the only one here that hated the end of season 2.
Probably
Marik
Mon, 12-07-2009, 06:30 PM
Code Geass: Shikkoku no Renya Manga to Launch in 2010
Helmer Taniguchi writes about boy who meets witch "Reifū C.C." & mysterious man
The January issue of Kadokawa Shoten's Newtype magazine is announcing on Thursday that Tomomasa Takuma (Code Geass: Nightmare of Nunnally, Kurogane Communication) is drawing a manga that is tentatively titled Code Geass: Shikkoku no Renya (Code Geass: Jet-Black Renya or Code Geass: Renya of the Blackness) next year.
Goro Taniguchi, the director and story co-creator of the original Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion television anime series, created the new manga's story concepts and is scripting the story. This is the first manga that Taniguchi is directly scripting himself.
The story takes place in the same official Code Geass history as the anime, but in a different era. The title character, Renya, is a 17-year-old boy with a mechanical left arm and shuriken throwing stars as his weapons of choice. The story begins when Renya encounters a mysterious, perpetually young witch named "Reifū C.C." C.C. has appeared in Japan's historical Edo era to seek a new partner for a covenant. Meanwhile, a mysterious man, with a striking resemblance to the character Lelouch of the original anime, also appears with unknown intentions.
The new manga is part of next year's new Code Geass project launch. Code Geass producer Yoshitaka Kawaguchi revealed on the franchise's website that the new project will feature the simultaneous releases of serialized comics, music, new products under development, and visual works.
Update: Bandai Entertainment's Bandai Books imprint published three of the previous manga titles: Majiko's Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion, Takuma's Code Geass: Nightmare of Nunnally, and Atsuro Yomino's Code Geass: Suzaku of the Counterattack.
Source (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-07/code-geass/shikkoku-no-renya-manga-to-launch-in-2010)
Archangel
Mon, 12-07-2009, 06:37 PM
The title character, Renya, is a 17-year-old boy with a mechanical left arm and shuriken throwing stars as his weapons of choice.
I loled, i really did
RyougaZell
Mon, 12-07-2009, 06:45 PM
So a complete alternate universe?
Wish they had done Stories of the Shogunate or whatever its called.
Ryllharu
Mon, 12-07-2009, 07:10 PM
So a complete alternate universe?
No, the other three manga series are in alternate universes. This one is different.
The story takes place in the same official Code Geass history as the anime, but in a different era.
...
C.C. has appeared in Japan's historical Edo era to seek a new partner for a covenantThis one is officially canon, and takes place in historical Japan (1603 to 1868). Presumably the Empire still exists back then, they just haven't come anywhere close to invading Japan (probably still busy subjugating North America and fighting with Europe).
RyougaZell
Mon, 12-07-2009, 07:15 PM
I don't see myself enjoying it much then... a mechanical arm already in Edo? I mean... the technology stupidly advanced in just the 2 years Code Geass took place... and suddenly this?
And a Lelouch look-alike while trying to stay in canon?
Im confused...
Archangel
Mon, 12-07-2009, 07:20 PM
Probably Lelouch's great great grandfather so they can cash in on moar sexual tension
Did CC ever mentioned Lelouch reminded her of anyone?
shinta|hikari
Mon, 12-07-2009, 07:51 PM
No, I don't think so. She even stated something that implied the opposite, telling Lelouch that it is her first time meeting a man like him (making him special).
MFauli
Mon, 12-07-2009, 07:51 PM
Meh, a prequel? that sucks. At least set it somewhere in the future, so we can find neat references... *sad panda*
Buffalobiian
Tue, 12-08-2009, 09:49 AM
Code Geass: Shikkoku no Renya Manga to Launch in 2010
Helmer Taniguchi writes about boy who meets witch "Reifū C.C." & mysterious man
Source (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-07/code-geass/shikkoku-no-renya-manga-to-launch-in-2010)
For a second, I thought THAT (^) was the new material. I almost cried.
DDBen
Wed, 01-06-2010, 12:49 PM
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/01/06/new-code-geass-anime-announced/
Not to many details to speak of but it is confirmation the new Code Geass Project will in fact be a anime.
Kraco
Wed, 01-06-2010, 01:38 PM
It's a good question what it's going to be all about. Fortunately I'm not any purity freak so I will wait for it with open eyes and an open mind.
And wishing for much more C.C. service...
Archangel
Wed, 01-06-2010, 01:41 PM
It's a good question what it's going to be all about. Fortunately I'm not any purity freak so I will wait for it with open eyes and an open mind.
Unfortunately, i am. Fuck this shit...
Ryllharu
Wed, 01-06-2010, 04:35 PM
R2 was different from the original intention because they shifted it to an earlier timeslot (5:00pm). That necessitated a recap for the new audience (why so much of the early parts were direct parallels to the first season's plot), and they toned it down as well.
One could say that the result was a great deal different than the original intention when the first series ended. I for one would appreciate less Sunrise clichés (resurrections, decoy ships, etc). They even overdid in on the technologically overpowering mechs. If Suzaku and Kallen were such great pilots, have them duke it on on pure skill rather than making it some over the top arms race (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Butter_Battle_Book). I felt that Sunrise approached that concept a lot better in the first season of Gundam 00 immediately before R2 aired.
...and I'm totally for Nightmare of Nunnally if they want to go there, but judging from the magazine scan and who is featured that is unlikely. However, that Zero in the background on the left looks a bit more feminine than normal, so it could be anything really. Maybe it is just all the text and graphics in front of it.
Archangel
Wed, 01-06-2010, 04:42 PM
That Zero is most likely a girl, the helmet even has some pink in it
masamuneehs
Wed, 01-06-2010, 07:39 PM
ugh. another season? i can't say i'll be waiting with bated breath...
digitalrurouni
Wed, 01-06-2010, 08:26 PM
ugh. another season? i can't say i'll be waiting with bated breath...
What? I cant believe I actually found someone who didnt like the show!
Dark Dragon
Wed, 01-06-2010, 08:32 PM
What? I cant believe I actually found someone who didnt like the show!
The show wasn't bad but the end of the last few episodes of the second season wasn't very good either and the ending pretty much saved the show. I would rather they stop milking the franchise and move on.
Buffalobiian
Wed, 01-06-2010, 09:08 PM
If there is C.C., I am watching.
That is all.
shinta|hikari
Wed, 01-06-2010, 10:51 PM
C.C. and Lelouch for me. If C.C. ends up with Suzaku for example, then I would kill all those responsible then myself.
C.C. and Kallen might be a welcome change though.
Archangel
Wed, 01-06-2010, 11:15 PM
CC and a character based on myself of GTFO
Or find me a really hot cosplayer, either one is fine.
Kraco
Thu, 01-07-2010, 02:20 AM
If C.C. ends up with Suzaku for example, then I would kill all those responsible then myself.
I'd willingly lend you assistance in punishing those responsible if C.C. x Suzaku happened.
Seriously, though, they would need to rewrite the whole history (all the way to events preceding even the old series's beginning) for C.C. x Suzaku to be even possible, so I don't see much danger of it happening. Also, it would seem a financially dubious decision.
Buffalobiian
Thu, 01-07-2010, 02:28 AM
C.C. and Lelouch for me. If C.C. ends up with Suzaku for example, then I would kill all those responsible then myself.
I would kill Suzaku, whether he is responsible or not.
shinta|hikari
Thu, 01-07-2010, 03:27 AM
I would kill Suzaku.
David75
Thu, 01-07-2010, 03:46 AM
From what I remember, the love conflict was more Lelouch X Suzaku...
I might be wrong though
I don't know what they'll do, but a nice spectacular flashy show is a nice thing in a season.
masamuneehs
Thu, 01-07-2010, 07:18 AM
From what I remember, the love conflict was more Lelouch X Suzaku...
I might be wrong though
I don't know what they'll do, but a nice spectacular flashy show is a nice thing in a season.
i really liked the two points you raised. i was really down on Geass toward the end of R2, and even though the ending was pretty good, I'd felt cheated out of what I thought was going to be the best, serious mecha show in years. but now that it's come down to this, and they're just obviously milking it for model kits and figurines and CMs, i suppose it will be good to suspend all expectations and just watch the spectacle they end up trotting out there.
also, man, those two were so gay for each other... even with the female love interests each of them had, just, so, fucking, gay.
Kraco
Thu, 04-22-2010, 03:59 PM
Code Geass Gaiden "Boukoku no Akito" Announced (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-04-22/code-geass-gaiden-bokoku-no-akito-project-announced).
"The Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion Kiseki no Birthday event video release is announcing a new project called Code Geass Gaiden Bōkoku no Akito on Friday. The side story is set in the European warfront, where a unit is sent into a military operation with a 5% chance of survival."
Sankaku seems to deduct from the meager info available that the side-story will basically feature an entirely novel cast.
I might need to slit somebody's wrists (though not my own because I still need them) if C.C. makes no appearance.
Archangel
Thu, 04-22-2010, 05:10 PM
As long as Lelouch and the original storyline are left untouched in all their glory i'm all for it
I wouldn't mind something featuring CC and VV for example, especially since we never got to really get to know the latter
RyougaZell
Thu, 04-22-2010, 05:55 PM
CC is most likely present. Do remember she's like 700 years old... so she can be alive there.
TheBladeChild
Thu, 04-22-2010, 06:07 PM
Code Geass Gaiden "Boukoku no Akito" Announced (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-04-22/code-geass-gaiden-bokoku-no-akito-project-announced).
"The Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion Kiseki no Birthday event video release is announcing a new project called Code Geass Gaiden Bōkoku no Akito on Friday. The side story is set in the European warfront, where a unit is sent into a military operation with a 5% chance of survival."
Sankaku seems to deduct from the meager info available that the side-story will basically feature an entirely novel cast.
I might need to slit somebody's wrists (though not my own because I still need them) if C.C. makes no appearance.
You can slit mine.
Archangel
Thu, 04-22-2010, 06:12 PM
CC is most likely present. Do remember she's like 700 years old... so she can be alive there.
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3075/800pxccpast.jpg (http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100111132929/codegeass/images/thumb/2/20/Cc_past.jpg/800px-Cc_past.jpg)
Gypsy CC would be nice...
shinta|hikari
Thu, 04-22-2010, 07:32 PM
Gypsy Any CC would be nice...
Fixed. Though, a miko one would be absolutely awesome.
http://th07.deviantart.net/fs37/300W/f/2008/253/1/1/Shrine_Maiden_by_shinta_hikari.jpg
I can't wait to make a new avatar, sig, wallpaper, starbucks tumbler custom cover, custom pillow case, custom shirt, cake etc. with C.C. on it, provided she does make an appearance preferably with a new awesome outfit.
And... will her name be revealed this time?
Buffalobiian
Thu, 04-22-2010, 07:47 PM
Remember that iconic photo featuring CC in the WW2 battlezone? I bet it's going to be that.
shinta|hikari
Thu, 04-22-2010, 08:09 PM
Which picture is that? Can you post an image or link of it? Or at least remind me what it looks like.
Buffalobiian
Thu, 04-22-2010, 08:27 PM
Which picture is that? Can you post an image or link of it? Or at least remind me what it looks like.
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/7472/codegeass03large19.jpg
On second thought, I think the trench warfare looks more like WW1.
shinta|hikari
Thu, 04-22-2010, 08:44 PM
Ah, quite nice. But I would prefer a more unique outfit. Well, she looks good in anything, even especially in a kindergarten outfit.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/shinta617/cchibi.jpg?t=1271987293
Archangel
Thu, 04-22-2010, 08:48 PM
That's disturbing cute
Buffalobiian
Thu, 04-22-2010, 08:52 PM
lol, is that.... Suzaku? :D
shinta|hikari
Thu, 04-22-2010, 09:04 PM
Yeah. That is the reason why this is one of my favorite Geass pics. I love the text as well. It means "Taste of the ground."
Eat dirt, Suzaku.
Archangel
Thu, 04-22-2010, 09:07 PM
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4213/suzakumaid.jpg
Moe moe kyun
Alhuin
Thu, 04-22-2010, 09:08 PM
Epic pic is Epic.
EDIT: Damn, Archie posted right before me. My response was to the Kindergarten pic.
shinta|hikari
Thu, 04-22-2010, 09:24 PM
LOL.
If it weren't for the edit, I would say you have very strange tastes.
masamuneehs
Fri, 04-23-2010, 06:32 AM
you guys read the whole post ?
The new side story is set in a.t.b.2017. A Knightmare unit made of boys and girls from Zone Eleven are thrown into a military operation with a 5% chance of survival. They must rescue an allied unit left behind on the European warfront.
i actually can't remember anyone being in the European front... and i also can't remember what year the events in the series are supposed to take place in?
I know CC would be with Mao (in China?) a few years before the start of the Geass series, but other than that...
I'm just about thrilled that this has no relation to the old show and that it should have a totally original cast. keeping my fingers crossed that this is something like the 08th MS Team of the Geass franchise.
Archangel
Fri, 04-23-2010, 08:13 AM
Epic pic is Epic.
EDIT: Damn, Archie posted right before me. My response was to the Kindergarten pic.
Backing out of it eh? :P
I'm just about thrilled that this has no relation to the old show and that it should have a totally original cast. keeping my fingers crossed that this is something like the 08th MS Team of the Geass franchise.
That's not completely true is it? Wasn't the protagonist a Lelouch lookalike?
Pandadice
Fri, 04-23-2010, 10:54 AM
^no the lelouch look a like was from that like Edo era Japan story. with the mechanical arm and shurikens.
Archangel
Fri, 04-23-2010, 10:58 AM
^no the lelouch look a like was from that like Edo era Japan story. with the mechanical arm and shurikens.
So that's not happening anymore?
Pandadice
Fri, 04-23-2010, 11:01 AM
^no, it happened. it was just a manga.
Archangel
Fri, 04-23-2010, 11:04 AM
So the manga has already been released? Has it been scanlated? What's the title?
RyougaZell
Fri, 04-23-2010, 11:13 AM
So the manga has already been released? Has it been scanlated? What's the title?
Code Geass: Shikkoku no Renya
And its not the only non scanlated Code Geass manga. we also have
A Record of the Strange Tales of the Bakumatsu Era: Code Geass
Ryllharu
Fri, 04-23-2010, 04:38 PM
i actually can't remember anyone being in the European front... and i also can't remember what year the events in the series are supposed to take place in?
I know CC would be with Mao (in China?) a few years before the start of the Geass series, but other than that...
According to the first episode of season 1, Japan was invaded by Britannia on August 10, 2010 (a.t.b.). At the time, Lelouch and Suzaku had recently met. The series proper began in 2017 (a.t.b.), so it will be simultaneous with Zero's rise to power.
I think one of the older siblings might have made a name for themselves in Europe, so it may include them. Maybe the tail end of Cornelia's campaign. Several of the Knights of the Round were there around that time frame as well, quelling the final cells of resistance.
Unless by "Allied" they mean the Japanese resistance fighters and not Britannian Empire. Then it would be anyone's guess.
RyougaZell
Tue, 04-27-2010, 08:34 PM
And people insisted Lelouch was alive... hmmmm
Code Geass Picture Drama - A Birthday Miracle (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=127092)
Archangel
Tue, 04-27-2010, 09:09 PM
The whole sunruse staff could get "Lelouch is dead" tattooed on their asses and i couldn't care less, as far as i'm concerned he is alive and having wild crazy monkey sex with CC 24/7
Buffalobiian
Wed, 04-28-2010, 04:00 AM
The whole sunruse staff could get "Lelouch is dead" tattooed on their asses and i couldn't care less, as far as i'm concerned he is alive and having wild crazy monkey sex with CC 24/7
But our poor mastermind has the endurance of an 80yr old. Too bad he's already geassed himself once.
vejita613
Wed, 04-28-2010, 04:06 AM
Somehow that video just seems kind of...short. Like, theres something missing. Like, why did it start off with this whole "terrorist" attack thing? I wonder if this is really the full video?
fireheart
Wed, 04-28-2010, 04:09 AM
But our poor mastermind has the endurance of an 80yr old. Too bad he's already geassed himself once.
Not a problem, he probably had Orange-kun anti geass him just for such an occasion
Ryllharu
Wed, 04-28-2010, 06:08 AM
Who was the little blond girl sitting beside Nunnally in the scene with Tian Zi and Kaguya? I don't recognize her at all. I remembered who everyone else was eventually, even if their appearances had changed a little bit or considerably, except for that girl.
(Kaguya looked absurdly tall given how little Nunnally and Tian Zi had aged)
Buffalobiian
Wed, 04-28-2010, 06:32 AM
Who was the little blond girl sitting beside Nunnally in the scene with Tian Zi and Kaguya? I don't recognize her at all. I remembered who everyone else was eventually, even if their appearances had changed a little bit or considerably, except for that girl.
(Kaguya looked absurdly tall given how little Nunnally and Tian Zi had aged)
Initially I thought she was some royal from Britannia, but since Nunnaly is there, I guess she's a never-introduced EU rep.
The video did look incomplete, considering how the music was suddenly cut off and all.
@fireheart: haha, I totally forgot about Orange-kun. Guess we can count on him to "continue the royal bloodline". :p
RyougaZell
Wed, 04-28-2010, 08:54 AM
Who was the little blond girl sitting beside Nunnally in the scene with Tian Zi and Kaguya? I don't recognize her at all. I remembered who everyone else was eventually, even if their appearances had changed a little bit or considerably, except for that girl.
(Kaguya looked absurdly tall given how little Nunnally and Tian Zi had aged)
My guess on the unknown girl is that she is from the new Code Geass project on the European Front.
About the video feeling incomplete... we kinda need someone to translate the full DVD. I think it has a 'Live' Section with the voice actors narrating a la picture drama some sections. And after that part it comes this animated picture drama. Im still looking for the live one. The 'terrorists' seem to be Chinese Activists or something like that.
Harima Kenji
Sun, 03-13-2011, 08:31 AM
Sorry for reviving an old thread like this, but I just finished the series yesterday, and it's not a series to keep quiet about IMO.
As most of you would agree, it was GOOD. I didn't intend a marathon, but I just couldn't stop. It's been a long time for me that I hád to finish the series as fast as possible. I haven't read all of the 97 pages of this thread, so I'm sorry if I say things that are already said.
When Rolo killed Shirley I wanted to jump into my PC and rip the guy to shreads. (very much like Lelouch wanted to himself) For some reason I always imagined Lelouch ending up with her, after granting C.C.'s wish of dying. Somehow I'm always rooting for such impossible romances..
Something that bugged me the last few episodes was that I don't understand why Lelouch made himself a tyrant. If he had a better idea for a world, why not do that instead. He started out by reforming the world, so why not continue? He could've warned the world about Damocles' threat, mobilized everyone and take it down. Instead he made the world his enemy. Did I miss this reasoning in the series?
About him being dead or not: I really think he's dead. He'd lost everything he fought for, even Nunnally disagreed with him and was prepared to kill him. He was aware of what horrible things he did, in order to achieve what he did, so I think a part of his whole final plan was to atone for his sins. The main thing he did was giving people hope for the future in the form of the symbol called Zero.
I think that C.C.'s saying that the Geass doesn't make you lonely refers to the redemption between Lelouch and Suzaku. They came together as best friends to accomplish their goals. They parted as friends as well.
When I read about a 3rd season I was hoping it was about completely erase Geass from the world. I remember C.C. in Season 1 yelling towards the Geass mark something like "don't infect me". The origin of the Geass is something you can base a new season on. The flashbacks showing masses of 'infected' people, just screams for an explanation. Somehow I also wanted to see that Lelouch's true intentions were revealed to the world to redeem him. A 'spinoff' kind of series isn't a good idea IMO.. Code Geass = Lelouch.
As with most series that end pretty sudden, I always long for a whole x-years/months after episode. The 2 minute wrapup is a bit short in my opinion. Even though I liked the ending, the whole stage was set for a kind of 'reset' ending. The world of C was pretty much a big reset button. I would have forgiven that ending here, even though I normally see it as an escape from a real ending. Even if the S3 was about annihilating the Geass, a reset end would be nice IMO. Too many good characters died.
Nevertheless this is one of the few series that ended with me being teary-eyed at the end.
It sucks that there are no Blu-ray releases that are subbed, because I'd love to own this series. I refuse to go from HD to SD quality, just because the US companies are too lazy to release them in HD.
Buffalobiian
Sun, 03-13-2011, 09:10 AM
Something that bugged me the last few episodes was that I don't understand why Lelouch made himself a tyrant. If he had a better idea for a world, why not do that instead. He started out by reforming the world, so why not continue? He could've warned the world about Damocles' threat, mobilized everyone and take it down. Instead he made the world his enemy. Did I miss this reasoning in the series?
Like you said, Lelouch wanted to atone for his sins. Suzaku, CC and Lelouch discussed this plan when they were in the World of Geass (or whatever place it was after they defeated Charles. Tower of something). Suzaku was going to kill Lelouch, and Lelouch was going to let him, though not before setting things straight.
He can't go out and reveal the plans to everybody since it would make him a hero. How would the world react when their hero dies and/or is revealed to have done so many unjust acts? He played the devil and left the world with a pure symbol worth following - Zero.
TheBladeChild
Sun, 03-13-2011, 11:29 AM
Season 3 is gonna be a prequel taking place, hundreds of years in the past. The only returning character is C.C.( ^_^)
Kraco
Sun, 03-13-2011, 12:06 PM
Nothing unites the world better than a common enemy. Nobody knew Lelouch beforehand, so he made a fine ultimate tyrant out of the blue, whom everybody could quickly hate and none defend. Of course nothing would prevent the world from going back to the old warring ways afterwards, so Zero's legend was left behind. I'm far from sure Lelouch wanted to atone for his sins as much as he wanted to leave Nunnally a better world, which was his aim from the get-go. I also don't think he and Suzaku ever became friends again after what happened; their aims simply coincided and the murderous Suzaku was ever too happy to slay Lelouch, as if he himself had never done any fell deeds. But of course Suzaku didn't really draw a much longer straw, being forced to remain Zero and fight for the rest of his days, incognito in the shadows since Suzaku Kururugi was a tainted war criminal, having publicly served Lelouch the tyrant.
RyougaZell
Sun, 03-13-2011, 01:01 PM
Season 3 is gonna be a prequel taking place, hundreds of years in the past. The only returning character is C.C.( ^_^)
If its based on the prequel manga I've been reading at mangafox I'll have to skip it. Its terrible.
Archangel
Sun, 03-13-2011, 02:16 PM
If its based on the prequel manga I've been reading at mangafox I'll have to skip it. Its terrible.
Lol, it really is.
DarthEnderX
Sun, 03-13-2011, 06:50 PM
About him being dead or not: I really think he's dead. I'm pretty sure the makers of the series have since come out and stated that he's really dead.
Marik
Mon, 08-01-2011, 11:03 PM
Masayuki Ozaki, the General Manager of Overseas Development at the anime studio Sunrise, confirmed that the studio is "looking forward to releasing" the new Code Geass anime project next year, although its production is behind schedule. During Sunrise's industry panel at Otakon on Sunday, Ozaki referred to the new project as the "next season of Code Geass" and noted that its director is Kazuki Akane (The Vision of Escaflowne, Noein - to your other self).
Ozaki described the project as taking place "in the same world as Lelouch [the protagonist of the earlier Code Geass anime] except with different characters (...) the stage is set in Europe, so we'll see a lot of European countries."
The Code Geass Gaiden Bōkoku no Akito project was announced in April of last year. The side story is set in the European warfront, where a Knightmare unit made of boys and girls from Zone Eleven is sent into a military operation with a 5% chance of survival. They must rescue an allied unit left behind on the European warfront. Apart from Akane, the credits include Shigeru Morita (Mobile Suit Gundam Seed, Blood+), with Takahiro Kimura once again adapting CLAMP's original character designs for animation (as he did for the previous Code Geass anime). Akira Yasuda returns to design the mechanical Knightmare units.
Source: ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-08-01/producer/next-season-of-code-geass-aimed-for-2012)
DarthEnderX
Mon, 08-01-2011, 11:31 PM
No Lelouch, no buy.
Kraco
Mon, 08-01-2011, 11:39 PM
Though I know it's futile (it's Sunrise, after all), but I'll watch this in the hopes it actually would present less superpowered individual characters and consequently would show us more gruesome and realistic warfare. You never know!
RyougaZell
Tue, 08-02-2011, 12:36 AM
Though I know it's futile (it's Sunrise, after all), but I'll watch this in the hopes it actually would present less superpowered individual characters and consequently would show us more gruesome and realistic warfare. You never know!
Personally, I thought there weren't enough superpowered characters. The damn Geass order was massive and yet we saw very few Geass users throughout the series. I wanted to see more of them, kinda like the Nightmare of Nuanally spinoff manga.
shinta|hikari
Tue, 08-02-2011, 12:46 AM
I think Lelouch with his brains and Suzaku with his brawn, as well as the huge number of elites in the show count as super powered individual characters.
Kraco
Tue, 08-02-2011, 12:58 AM
Indeed, like Shinta said, I counted the numerous elites in the super powered ones. The kind of people who alone could solve a difficult situations. Lelouch with his super brains would have been one even without the geass. He was rarely outsmarted yet frequently cooked up plans that perfectly predicted the enemy response. I'm hoping for a hopeless looking war where heads are rolling left and right and little seems to go as the cast anticipated, bringing numerous setbacks and deaths of named characters, but at the same time the enemy making mistakes or miscalculations as well, making progress possible.
MFauli
Tue, 08-02-2011, 04:50 AM
Ignoring the debate about super powers: I seriously doubt that this follow-up series will be anywhere as good as the original show. But I´ll watch it nonetheless. Here´s hope that Lelouch will make an appearance.
Buffalobiian
Tue, 08-02-2011, 07:21 AM
Now the thing is, if this new show doesn't all the things that made the old one what it was... it's hardly the "next season" of Code Geass. It's just another story set in the same universe.
All that this show will take to hook me into following this is an announcement that C.C. will be a major character again.
RyougaZell
Tue, 08-02-2011, 09:50 AM
C.C. shouldn't be there since this new series is suppossed to happen at the same time at the Europe front.
Buffalobiian
Tue, 08-02-2011, 09:56 AM
C.C. shouldn't be there since this new series is suppossed to happen at the same time at the Europe front.
Oh.. at the same time.
Bummer.
Archangel
Tue, 08-02-2011, 10:14 AM
C.C. shouldn't be there since this new series is suppossed to happen at the same time at the Europe front.
Source? Because i've read nothing on it being during the same events as the previous series
RyougaZell
Tue, 08-02-2011, 10:19 AM
Source? Because i've read nothing on it being during the same events as the previous series
I was going to tell you to read Marik's post again, but it only mentions it takes place on the same world. Im sure I read it somewhere about being at the same time. But if Europe is at war either a new conflict started or it happens before or at the same time as Zero existed.
Archangel
Tue, 08-02-2011, 10:29 AM
I was going to tell you to read Marik's post again, but it only mentions it takes place on the same world. Im sure I read it somewhere about being at the same time. But if Europe is at war either a new conflict started or it happens before or at the same time as Zero existed.
Or you could stop pulling theories out of your ass? Code Geass has hardly any factual background to it besides a few similarly named countries. If anything the fact that it's been called, by its own the developing crew i might add, as "the next season" leads one to believe that it will take place in the future and as such leaving the door open for more CC goodness.
No Kallen though so yeah... suck on that :D
RyougaZell
Tue, 08-02-2011, 10:38 AM
Code Geass Timeline from Code Geass Wikia (http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/World_History)
2017 a.t.b. / 1962 A.D.
Viceroy and Third Prince Clovis la Britannia is killed by Zero.
Second Princess Cornelia li Britannia is appointed Viceroy of Area 11, naming Third Princess Euphemia li Britannia as sub-viceroy. Cornelia immediately begins her campaign to bring Zero to justice.
Zero forms the Order of the Black Knights. Its membership expands with each victory. All attempts to destroy the Black Knights end in failure.
Using her power, Euphemia li Britannia tries to create a Special Administrative Zone of Japan.[1] It is "revealed" to be a plot to massacre the Elevens, and she is killed by Zero.
The Black Rebellion breaks out. The Black Knights ignite riots across the country as they continue to push towards the Area 11 Viceroy Palace. The rebellion is eventually pushed back and crushed, with most of the Black Knights killed or captured. Area 11 is demoted to a correctional sub-area.
Second Princess Cornelia li Britannia is gone missing during the Black Rebellion. Her position as Viceroy of Area 11 later is taken by Calares.
Code Geass Bokuko no Akito announcement from ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-04-22/code-geass-gaiden-bokoku-no-akito-project-announced) back in April 2010
The Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion Kiseki no Birthday event video release is announcing a new anime project called Code Geass Gaiden Bōkoku no Akito on Friday. The side story is set in the European warfront, where a unit made of boys and girls from Zone Eleven is sent into a military operation with a 5% chance of survival.
Update: The BIGLOBE website began streaming the event video at midnight on Friday. The event video is also available in Japan on Blu-ray, DVD, and UMD.
Update 2: Kazuki Akane (Escaflowne, Noein - to your other self, Birdy the Mighty Decode) is directing off scripts by Shigeru Morita (Mobile Suit Gundam Seed, Toward the Terra, Blood+). As in the previous two television series, Takahiro Kimura is adapting CLAMP's original character designs for animation. Akira Yasuda is also returning to design the mechanical Nightmare units. The anime studio Sunrise, the previous Code Geass director Goro Taniguchi, and the previous series script supervisor Ichiro Okouchi are credited with the original story.
The new side story is set in a.t.b.2017. A Knightmare unit made of boys and girls from Zone Eleven are thrown into a military operation with a 5% chance of survival. They must rescue an allied unit left behind on the European warfront.
Pulled out of the ass huh? I knew I read about it before. Suck on that Archie.
DarthEnderX
Tue, 08-02-2011, 10:45 AM
Yeah! You suck it hard!!
Archangel
Tue, 08-02-2011, 11:03 AM
Information over a year old that's never been mentioned again? Sounds reliable!
RyougaZell
Tue, 08-02-2011, 11:11 AM
Yes, because the ONLY trailer released about this project states the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoQ-W1Tqo10
The only new information released is 'hey, we are still doing it!' and while they haven't confirmed they are still following the previous released information, they aren't contradicting it either.
So, as much as you hate it, this is the only official information so far.
Archangel
Tue, 08-02-2011, 11:15 AM
If that's still the plan then that was one weird ass phrasing they used in the interview. Either that or i'm missing something from the translation.
Buffalobiian
Tue, 08-02-2011, 11:18 AM
Yeah! You suck it hard!!
Discussing the legitimacy of information is fine, but do refrain from posts that only infuriate others. Thanks guys.
RyougaZell
Tue, 08-02-2011, 11:27 AM
@Bill Understood
@Archie I don't know. I'm just the messenger. Don't kill the messenger.
On Geass Topic:
Since GG never released the remaning Picture Dramas... anyone know where we can get the rest referenced on this site?
http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Episodes
I'm particuarly interested on Turn's 9.34 and 25.01
Marik
Tue, 08-02-2011, 11:37 AM
Thora did all of the R2 picture dramas, which includes 9.34 and 25.01.
Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch | Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 [THORA] (http://www.bakabt.com/154690-code-geass-hangyaku-no-lelouch-lelouch-of-the-rebellion-r2-thora.html)
http://www.bakabt.com/images/pixel.gif Code_Geass_R2_Picture_Drama_0.56_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv 179.00 MB
http://www.bakabt.com/images/pixel.gif Code_Geass_R2_Picture_Drama_0.923_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv 79.35 MB
http://www.bakabt.com/images/pixel.gif Code_Geass_R2_Picture_Drama_12.31_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv 132.29 MB
http://www.bakabt.com/images/pixel.gif Code_Geass_R2_Picture_Drama_12.59_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv 133.95 MB
http://www.bakabt.com/images/pixel.gif Code_Geass_R2_Picture_Drama_19.02_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv 174.01 MB
http://www.bakabt.com/images/pixel.gif Code_Geass_R2_Picture_Drama_22.05_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv 234.77 MB
http://www.bakabt.com/images/pixel.gif Code_Geass_R2_Picture_Drama_25.01_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv 151.71 MB
http://www.bakabt.com/images/pixel.gif Code_Geass_R2_Picture_Drama_7.19_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv 90.13 MB
http://www.bakabt.com/images/pixel.gif Code_Geass_R2_Picture_Drama_9.34_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv 196.75 MB
and season one
Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch | Lelouch of the Rebellion S01 [gg-THORA] (http://www.bakabt.com/145404-code-geass-hangyaku-no-lelouch-lelouch-of-the-rebellion-s01-gg-thora.html)
Pandadice
Tue, 08-02-2011, 12:05 PM
Wait, the director of Noein and Birdy? Awman, this totally has the potential to be a heavily sakuga focused series! I really hope Akane works with Ryo-timo again like on the Birdy shows. Hopefully Ryo-timo's Yozakura OVAs are finished by then so he can get on board with this. And even if Ryo-timo is more responsible for Birdy's outcome, Akane directed the series and had to oversee everything he was doing. Not to mention dude was director of Noein. Maybe Noein's style could be attributed more to Matsumoto, Ryo-timo, Utsunomiya etc., but still, Akane is the guy who got all of them on board with the project. So even if he can't be directly blamed, he has still shown complete approval and support for what they're doing (I mean, he must've really liked Ryo-timo on Noein if he let him be head sakkan on both Birdy shows). And even if the entire series isn't in the same vein as either of those shows, then at the least we should be able to expect a single web-kei episode. Like, even if Ryo-timo doesn't sakkan, we should totally expect him to do some key animation in an episode or two at the very least.
Wasn't really big on Code Geass, but I am definitely anticipating this show.
RyougaZell
Tue, 08-02-2011, 12:05 PM
Thanks Marik! Downloading the Picture dramas alone now :D
Marik
Thu, 01-12-2012, 11:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVG38dD6CVc
Other Code Geass related news...
Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion Gets Film Project (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-01-12/code-geass/lelouch-of-the-rebellion-gets-film-project)
Maaya Sakamoto Sings Code Geass: Akito the Exiled Theme (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-01-12/maaya-sakamoto-sings-code-geass/akito-the-exiled-theme)
Code Geass: Nunnally in Wonderland Video Anime Revealed (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-01-12/code-geass/nunnally-in-wonderland-video-anime-revealed)
MFauli
Thu, 01-12-2012, 01:20 PM
Hate the music. Hyuuga Akito looks too much like Lelouch. And god, I hate that "look at me, im mysterious. I´ll be appearing every 2-3 eps and make a foreshadowing comment"-girl. lol
NeoCybercoin
Thu, 01-12-2012, 04:16 PM
All male characters look like Lelouch. Just different eyes and hair. Pretty sure I'm not going to watch this one.
Kraco
Thu, 01-12-2012, 04:46 PM
I think it looked pretty good. Not good for Europe but good for the story. I hope the knightmares will stay less fancy and pilots and ruthless strategy thus play a consistently bigger role (absolutely not meaning we'd need more spinzakus).
Alhuin
Thu, 01-12-2012, 10:18 PM
I didn't see any hint of a Geass in that trailer, so I'm hoping they just want it to be a surprise.
Or am I forgetting something important from the end of season 2 regarding that.
Buffalobiian
Thu, 01-12-2012, 10:35 PM
I didn't see any hint of a Geass in that trailer, so I'm hoping they just want it to be a surprise.
Or am I forgetting something important from the end of season 2 regarding that.
The blond girl looked like she was about to use some sort of eye power in that trailer.
Nothing inherently bad from first viewing, though that music didn't do it any favours.
Kraco
Fri, 01-13-2012, 03:21 AM
Yeah, I also didn't like the music - I don't like jazz in pretty much any situation even to the point of feeling it made Cowboy Bebop worse despite it being even a part of the show's name.
Haha, seems like the video is down. A promotional video was taken down because of a copyright claim. I'd understand if some family product manufacturer wouldn't like its commercial being aired on an exclusive porn channel, but what is this all about? Typical Japanese nonsense, no doubt.
Buffalobiian
Tue, 07-31-2012, 07:28 AM
[Notgg]_Code_Geass_Nunnally_in_Wonderland_[720p]_[83CF3062].mkv (http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=336802)
Complete with Spinzaku!
NeoCybercoin
Tue, 07-31-2012, 07:53 AM
Dat Cheshire cat.
Buffalobiian
Thu, 12-12-2019, 01:00 PM
Buffalobiian: Okay, I watched the Code Geass Resurrection movie and bought a figure featuring C.C.'s ass.
Buffalobiian: you guys should do the same
Note: Code Geass Movies 1-3 are recap with some changes compared to the TV version. The 4th movie (Resurrection) is a sequel to these rather than the TV version.
Recap Movies:
[Anonymous] Code Geass Episode I / II / III - Koudou / Handou / Oudou (magnet:?xt=urn:btih:105e6e78e091e41ba744367e17279 bfb1f11d9fc&dn=%5BAnonymous%5D%20Code%20Geass%20Episode%20I%20 %2F%20II%20%2F%20III%20-%20Koudou%20%2F%20Handou%20%2F%20Oudou%20%5BBD%201 080p%208bit%20FLAC%5D&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fnyaa.tracker.wf%3A7777%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.stealth.si%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fann ounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fan nounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969%2Fannounce )
[B]
Sequel movie:
[gg]_Code_Geass_-_Lelouch_of_the_Resurrection_(BD,1080p)_[4F72F79F].mkv (magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3b64f004324ea4ed54026f0579ee6 1c2396a8ca4&dn=%5Bgg%5D_Code_Geass_-_Lelouch_of_the_Resurrection_%28BD%2C1080p%29_%5B4 F72F79F%5D.mkv&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fnyaa.tracker.wf%3A7777%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.stealth.si%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fann ounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fan nounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969%2Fannounce )
Spoilers below, naturally.
DarthEnderX
Thu, 12-12-2019, 01:02 PM
So they're basically doing the NGE thing.
Buffalobiian
Thu, 12-12-2019, 01:23 PM
Post movie thoughts:
-If you didn't watch the recap movies, go back and watch it.
-I came into this expecting more information regarding the Code tribe (not the Code Order featured in this movie, but the Code-bearing tribe seen in C.C.'s flashbacks) along with the whole Jupiter connection. None of that happened. We just got a bit more mumbojumbo which was slightly disappointing.
-This version of Lelouch's survival retcons a few things. In particular, the assumption in the original series is that once a Geass user becomes a Code user, they lose access to their Geass. I don't think this was stated outright in the series, but it's heavily implied. No code user used a Geass ever. These movies danced around this issue by never explaining C.C.'s power origin at all.
----This makes the whole "He used his Geass while not resolving his Code issue" or whatever weird.
-On that note, C.C.'s explanation regarding their immortality is that they replace body parts. She also says that it's actually a finite resource since Lelough screwed up C's World order. Technically, she's not immortal anymore if she chooses to die enough times without replenishing her stock. Not that she wants to die anymore because...
-C.C. x L.L. ship sails! 10 years man... 10 years of waiting for this damn ending. It feels so good. Great use of Cheese-kun being gradually squeezed as a way of showing C.C.'s emotions. Apparently there's more material to come so bring it on.
-As for the movie itself, it's pretty fanservicey in that it's unnecessary except to reignite the franchise, reunite a bunch of characters and give us a C.C. shipping. The "revive Lelouch" arch of this movie was entertaining enough. "Rescue Nunally" was meh. Our mech pilots actually had hinderance armour to stop them being too OP. The enemies Geass rewinding time is pretty broken. Most other powers have been about affecting human perceptions or minds.
---Mao read minds,
---Lelouch commands,
---Charles rewrites memories,
---Marianne invades souls,
---C.C.'s remakes people love her,
---Rolo stops people's perception of time.
---Knight of One's is the only difference in that it reads the future.
-Back to the Geass/Code combo which is now possible. Remember how Code Users were immune to Geass powers? Well apparently that's not the case anymore, and it's just C.C. . Because, you know.. the evil lady wouldn't have been susceptible to Lelouch's sleep command since she also has a code.
-Blowing her up after making her sleep for 10hrs prior means she can't modify the past, but it means she can still come back to life and screw with your life later. Didn't they think this through before drawing a Code symbol on her abdomen?
-Lelouch's Geass no longer being permanent is a quality of life change for him. That said, it also ruins the progression that was previously established (Geass becomes permanent as it becomes stronger, and only strong Geass users are later able to take Codes from their predecessors.)
-What's also funny is that Lelouch's power will only become less useful if he abuses it. People can only follow his command once. Since he's now immortal and going around the world, it's reasonable to think that one day his plan-of-the-day could fail because someone he was going to Geass had already been Geassed previously.
-Cornelia! I'm a huge fan of her 2nd to C.C. and damn she's as good as ever. That armpit bondage scene from R2 was still great. The animators have taste.
Buffalobiian
Thu, 12-12-2019, 04:45 PM
2 Post Resurrection Picture Dramas.
Lelouch of the Resurrection Picture Drama: Re;f 1.05 Secret Talk in Hammam
(happens nearly immediately after the movie)
https://youtu.be/tZn_une0EQI
Translation: https://mononoke-no-ko.tumblr.com/post/189583017104/translationlelouch-of-the-resurrection-picture
-------------------------------------------------------
Lelouch of the Resurrection Picture Drama: Re;f 103.00 Fragment of the Deep Sea -translation-
(happens 10 years after the movie, featuring C.C. and L.L.)
http://vimeo.com/378021951
(embedded link didn't work)
Translation+Video: https://mononoke-no-ko.tumblr.com/post/189537637494/lelouch-of-the-resurrection-picture-drama-ref
DarthEnderX
Fri, 12-13-2019, 04:01 AM
Well, those seem...plot relevant.
Buffalobiian
Fri, 12-13-2019, 05:20 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ifp2c
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ifp2c
Final one that I'm going to link for a while.
DarthEnderX
Sat, 12-28-2019, 01:43 AM
Quick question about the new movie.
Did parts of the old series get retconned? Because it seems like a direct continuation, but Shirley seems to be alive, and I remember her being...super dead.
Edit: Oh wait, I see, there were recap movies that changed things.
Anyway, I'm glad my interpretation of the series end was right(eventually), with him being alive, even though the details were different than I thought.
Buffalobiian
Sat, 12-28-2019, 01:56 AM
I remember there being once an interview where staff from the series specifically said that Lelouch wasn't the cart driver in the original ending, and that he was dead.
DarthEnderX
Sat, 12-28-2019, 02:01 AM
I remember there being once an interview where staff from the series specifically said that Lelouch wasn't the cart driver in the original ending, and that he was dead.Yeah, I just assume this new ending is a retcon, even though I totally supported Cart Driver Lelouche back in the day.
Buffalobiian
Sat, 12-28-2019, 04:00 AM
I too was a cart driver supporter, though it didn't make sense for CC to be super sad at the alter if that was the case.
Kraco
Sun, 01-05-2020, 04:23 PM
-C.C. x L.L. ship sails! 10 years man... 10 years of waiting for this damn ending. It feels so good. Great use of Cheese-kun being gradually squeezed as a way of showing C.C.'s emotions. Apparently there's more material to come so bring it on.
Pretty much the only worthy thing in this movie.
-Blowing her up after making her sleep for 10hrs prior means she can't modify the past, but it means she can still come back to life and screw with your life later. Didn't they think this through before drawing a Code symbol on her abdomen?
She will come back to life as a sleeping person, unable to do anything. I actually think her geass is some kind of prophesy mutation. It's just an illusion she returns back to the past, rather she sees those defined hours into the future, and if she dies in the future she sees (no matter if it's herself who kills her), she will just see another future, as if she returned to the past. From a practical point of view it doesn't make any difference, but it's better than assuming she returns the whole solar system 9 hours into the past.
-Lelouch's Geass no longer being permanent is a quality of life change for him. That said, it also ruins the progression that was previously established (Geass becomes permanent as it becomes stronger, and only strong Geass users are later able to take Codes from their predecessors.)
I feel like you misinterpreted this. If he sets a strict condition, the geass will expire naturally when the condition is met. He did that in this movie.
Buffalobiian
Sun, 01-05-2020, 06:56 PM
She will come back to life as a sleeping person, unable to do anything. I actually think her geass is some kind of prophesy mutation. It's just an illusion she returns back to the past, rather she sees those defined hours into the future, and if she dies in the future she sees (no matter if it's herself who kills her), she will just see another future, as if she returned to the past. From a practical point of view it doesn't make any difference, but it's better than assuming she returns the whole solar system 9 hours into the past.
That's one way to interpret it.
If we're to take this at face value, then either:
1) Her geass activates forcefully and involuntarily every time she dies, in which case the world goes into a never-ending-loop where she makes everyone relive her final 6-9 hours or whatever it is.
2) Alternatively if her Geass is activated voluntarily, then when she dies she can just resurrect herself (because she's a code bearer) without resetting time. In which case, that's my proposed scenario - she comes back to hurt you again because she's undying.
I feel like you misinterpreted this. If he sets a strict condition, the geass will expire naturally when the condition is met. He did that in this movie.
I feel like you misinterpreted me. When I say a "permanent Geass", I mean a Geass that he can't turn on/off at will. That's how he accidentally made Euphy kill Japs. And in R2, ever since that moment his Geass had been permanently active, requiring him to use contact lenses to hide its effect. I think wikis have been calling it a "runaway Geass".
DarthEnderX
Mon, 01-06-2020, 03:47 AM
I never really saw Lelouche and CC as a thing back in the day. They never seemed to have that kind of relationship.
It always seemed to be Shirley, obviously, and then to a lesser extent, Kallen.
Kraco
Mon, 01-06-2020, 06:56 AM
I feel like you misinterpreted me. When I say a "permanent Geass", I mean a Geass that he can't turn on/off at will. That's how he accidentally made Euphy kill Japs. And in R2, ever since that moment his Geass had been permanently active, requiring him to use contact lenses to hide its effect. I think wikis have been calling it a "runaway Geass".
Oh, then I totally misinterpreted what you said. I should have read your post more carefully. Now that I relooked at it, I totally read it wrong.
I never really saw Lelouche and CC as a thing back in the day. They never seemed to have that kind of relationship.
It always seemed to be Shirley, obviously, and then to a lesser extent, Kallen.
You must be in the minority.
Ryllharu
Mon, 01-06-2020, 04:17 PM
Kallen really, really liked Lelouch and admired Zero immensely, but he never showed any real interest in her other than on a tactical level. To a degree it was almost comical and occasionally, actually played for laughs.
Shirley he did harbor some degree of romantic feelings for, but it always felt like he didn't want to act on them for various reasons. It was like a teen romance that fell apart from his side because he was out and about murdering people while Shirley retained her innocence.
CC was a very slow burn romance that started from mutual distrust/wariness.
So it's very rewarding to see fulfilled. Even in a generally garbage film.
DarthEnderX
Mon, 01-06-2020, 05:04 PM
You must be in the minority.I guess. CC always just seemed like a weird god watching Lelouche's antics to not be bored.
She was basically Ryuk from Death Note.
And then this movie comes out and they're, like, soulmates now. And I'm not sure if the other recap movies set this up better than the original series, but I never got that watching the original. In fact, I don't even get that from THIS movie until the last 5 minutes.
Buffalobiian
Tue, 01-07-2020, 12:25 AM
And then this movie comes out and they're, like, soulmates now. And I'm not sure if the other recap movies set this up better than the original series, but I never got that watching the original. In fact, I don't even get that from THIS movie until the last 5 minutes.
Really?!
I mean, previously seen:
-the cave where Lelouch calls her name.
-Other scenes where he's often alone with her and confides in here, especially the ones where they lean on each other's backs.
This movie:
-Particularly evident prior to Lelouch regaining his memories. That scene where he headbutts C.C. and she just takes it.. that was painful to watch.
-The final scene was straight up "C.C. marry me please", which I'm quite content with, even if it was a fanservice-like ending.
-The last 3 picture dramas I linked actually show some romantic bits rather well.
As for Shirley, the movies did change things up because she didn't die. In the first series he came to terms with his feelings for her when Rolo killed her, which prompted him to annihilate the Geass Order.
Kraco
Tue, 01-07-2020, 03:21 PM
It has been a long time since I watched the series, but somehow I seem to remember C.C. kissing Lelouch near the end of the first season, I think, before some crucial battle. But maybe I'm just imagining that and remembering nonexistent things if DarthEnderX has got such a view of things.
All in all C.C. was the only person whom Lelouch could really trust throughout the whole story, who was more or less always with him, through fire and water. They really spent a lot of time together, and it wasn't any stiff business relationship. He tolerated her selfish, capricious behavior unlike anyone else's. I always felt like Lelouch had two bottom lines: Nunnally and C.C, the only difference being that C.C. didn't need a whole lot of protecting and was actually useful, but both of those two girls were the elements Lelouch needed to keep going, though for different reasons.
At the end of the day Lelouch probably requires a weird woman to keep him company. He's pretty weird himself.
shinta|hikari
Tue, 01-07-2020, 07:33 PM
What about the time when C.C. kissed Lelouch in a robot? And the 2nd time she kissed Lelouch at the start of R2?
DarthEnderX
Tue, 01-07-2020, 11:57 PM
It has been a long time since I watched the series, but somehow I seem to remember C.C. kissing Lelouch near the end of the first season, I think, before some crucial battle. But maybe I'm just imagining that and remembering nonexistent things if DarthEnderX has got such a view of things.It's been, like, 10 years for me also. So your memories are likely as good as mine.
Buffalobiian
Thu, 01-09-2020, 10:39 AM
What about the time when C.C. kissed Lelouch in a robot? And the 2nd time she kissed Lelouch at the start of R2?
Somehow I forgot about those examples when I was listing them.
The only real weird thing about C.C. x L.L. is that C.C. knew his mum and they were kinda buds.
shinta|hikari
Thu, 01-09-2020, 03:23 PM
MILF C.C?
Buffalobiian
Fri, 01-10-2020, 03:41 AM
She doesn't look old enough to be a MILF, that's what throws that whole concept off.
I've only ever managed to conceptualize MILF in a pornographic context, never in a truly romantic one.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.