Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood

[Buffalobiian]

Buccaneer's death was my favourite this episode, since Riza's was "telegraphed" by the eyecatch (and lost some effectiveness).

I'm interested to know why Mustang and the few others were called "potential sacrifices". I was never aware that performing human transmutation required special potential.

It would either mean someone who's researched how to do it, or someone with the mentality that would allow them to be forced to perform it for the sake of others.

Hohenheim. Hohenheim. In all your XXX years of life you've never considered that wearing socks with a suit looks better than one without? Well, it matches your character anyway, just like your situation.

I might just have a bit of hope left in you though, since way back whenever, you leaked a few souls into the ground as if they were planned for something. Let's see if your Plan A really was so great.

[Sandldan]

I'm interested to know why Mustang and the few others were called "potential sacrifices". I was never aware that performing human transmutation required special potential.

I've gotten the impression that human transmutation in itself does not necessarily require that much skill. But instead making it back alive is a feat not everyone is capable of.

[Kraco]

A badass episode but I still think a bunch of 60 years old geezers with swords wasn't a convincing enough enemy for Mustang & co's fight. It's a fact they were far more dangeous than the "unstoppable super soldier dolls" that were lousier than any named character, but that's just another flaw.

Buccaneer took his time to die but it was a very good death scene.

[Buffalobiian]

Buccaneer took his time to die but it was a very good death scene.

I thought they did a great job with the sky. You could almost feel the chilly, clean wind of Briggs.

[NeoCybercoin]

I wonder what mustang will lose. I mean human transmutation always comes with a prize. I'm just gonna think out loud here but the next ep is called "Lost Light" and in the OP you see Mustang "swallowed" up in darkness so...will he lose his sight or something? Or it could be symbolical that Riza is his light or something.

What's so special about the human sacrifices is that they have all seen the Gate of Truth. So if you sacrifice the people who have seen that...wouldn't you get a whole lot more in return for that? I mean by seeing the Gate of Truth their lives would become worth much more since they know so much more then a normal alchemist would know. That's just what I think anyway.

Greed was totally badass btw. I knew Wrath wouldn't die from that. He is a homunculus. Sure he might age but wouldn't he be able to heal like all others?

[SilentSnake]

I'm interested in what will come out of Mustang's try to revive Hughes.

yeah... can't wait for the next ep :D

[Kraco]

Logically he should try to kill the gold tooth and pry the philosopher's stone from his dead fingers. I mean, if somebody uses human meat shields and has a hostage's throat slit to force your hand, you can't really trust his word, can you? Especially when obeying him will only worsen your own position considerably.

[Prof. Chaos]

Mustang is a potential for Human transmutation because he has the drive to do it in order to save Riza. Just like Izumi did it to see her child and Ed and Al did it for their mother, Roy will be willing to go that far for Riza.

And the translation you posted above fits so much better.

[Sam98034]

Logically he should try to kill the gold tooth and pry the philosopher's stone from his dead fingers. I mean, if somebody uses human meat shields and has a hostage's throat slit to force your hand, you can't really trust his word, can you? Especially when obeying him will only worsen your own position considerably.

Good idea, but it still wouldn't help Riza. Mustang has no clue how to use the stone to heal her, but the doctor, since he's a doctor/alchemist, probably can.

I'm also a little perplexed about the whole human transmutation and sacrifices thing. Maybe quite a few things need to go into the mixture. For the plots sake, lets just assume that normal alchemists can't really perform it, and even if they could, they wouldn't survive it. Plus something else explaining why Kimbley couldn't do it.

[DarthEnderX]

Plus something else explaining why Kimbley couldn't do it.Maybe he could have and they just weren't planning on him dying right before the promised day.

[Kraco]

I'd have liked to see them try to force Kimblee to do anything he wouldn't have wanted to do...

[Prof. Chaos]

I'd have liked to see them try to force Kimblee to do anything he wouldn't have wanted to do...

My thoughts exactly. Kimblee is a psychopath who delights in death and destruction. Why would he want to even attempts humans transmutation?

I dont even see Alex trying it to save his sister doing it.

[Sam98034]

I could only see Kimblee doing it to try to become stronger. And I actually think it said somwhere that Kimblee was a candidate as a sacrifice, but I can't remember where. Does anyone else think so, too, or am I just imagining things?

[depthcharge]

After much success by the Brigg camp, seems like they are getting one-upped. Despite Wrath getting stabbed, shot and now thrown down from 10 story height, I doubt he is dead.

That Gold tooth doctor, seems to be afraid of doing human transmutation himself. What does he know that is not being revealed.

[Jessper]

That Gold tooth doctor, seems to be afraid of doing human transmutation himself. What does he know that is not being revealed.

Being a sacrifice of any sort generally doesn't end well for that person, it makes sense you would not ever want to be in that position...

[Marik]

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[NeoCybercoin]

That took way too long! Can't wait to watch =D

[Penner]

That sucks for Al...

Next ep though.. Wrath versus Scar, bring it!!

[Kraco]

Wrath certainly takes his time to die. Looks like he seemingly dies in one battle, only to appear in the next one to die again, move to yet another to die once more...

Nasty thing that happened to Mustang, for sure. But it's not like he would be useless. Just let somebody else point him the direction and he can burn down everything in that direction, Pride included. Shadows should be no match for fire.

[Sam98034]

I think his gloves are messed up, too, though. I wonder if he carries extras.

[deadlydreamx]

well he saw the truth sooo he should be able to do everything with a snap of his fingers.. unless he needs that special circle on his gloves to make fire

[Ryllharu]

He shouldn't. Ed and Al can do pretty much anything no matter what it is, what it's made out of and so on.

[Buffalobiian]

He shouldn't. Ed and Al can do pretty much anything no matter what it is, what it's made out of and so on.

He'll need to start clapping his hands though, so rapid fire wouldn't be an option anymore. Not that it'd do much anyway now that he's blind and gotta stick with napalming.

I have no idea what happened to the philosopher's stone at the end. Wrath didn't seem to take it in, and everybody else just kinda forgot about it.

[DeathscytheVII]

Aw yeah,that's what we're talking about! Two of the show's best close combat fighters duking it out. It may just be an even match, considering Wrath is wounded.


He'll need to start clapping his hands though, so rapid fire wouldn't be an option anymore. Not that it'd do much anyway now that he's blind and gotta stick with napalming.

Interesting point, now that Mustang has 'seen' the truth, that means he can now do alchemy without the aid of transmutation circles, maybe all he needs to do is just rub the fibers of his gloves together, even if its just between his fingers....of course the whole being unable to see thing doesn't help.


I have no idea what happened to the philosopher's stone at the end. Wrath didn't seem to take it in, and everybody else just kinda forgot about it.

Pretty sure Bradley still has it in his possession. I smell future plot device.

[Ryllharu]

He'll need to start clapping his hands though, so rapid fire wouldn't be an option anymore. Not that it'd do much anyway now that he's blind and gotta stick with napalming.

Interesting point, now that Mustang has 'seen' the truth, that means he can now do alchemy without the aid of transmutation circles, maybe all he needs to do is just rub the fibers of his gloves together, even if its just between his fingers....of course the whole being unable to see thing doesn't help.
Does he need to clap his hands, or does he simply need to make an impromptu circle? Izumi, Ed and Al all do that be cause they always have.

A middle finger and a thumb make a circle too.

[depthcharge]

too bad, Mustang is blind now. The Chimera pull some mean punches.

[Jessper]

Does he need to clap his hands, or does he simply need to make an impromptu circle? Izumi, Ed and Al all do that be cause they always have.

A middle finger and a thumb make a circle too.

When they talked about it way back when I remember them saying something like they make the circle in their body, said circle might have to include their core, which thumbs and fingers wouldn't. I wouldn't expect to see mustang start firing off shots without some indication they are coming.

[Buffalobiian]

When they talked about it way back when I remember them saying something like they make the circle in their body, said circle might have to include their core, which thumbs and fingers wouldn't. I wouldn't expect to see mustang start firing off shots without some indication they are coming.

Interesting. I always thought the "circle" (explained by Scar, leading him to destroy Ed's arm I believe) was made as they pulled their hands apart. If the palm is pulled apart first while the fingers and thumbs are in contact, it momentarily forms a circle with both hands.

Your explanation makes more sense however, since the blue transmutation sparks always occur when they clap (from memory), rather than when they release.

[Jessper]

Interesting. I always thought the "circle" (explained by Scar, leading him to destroy Ed's arm I believe) was made as they pulled their hands apart. If the palm is pulled apart first while the fingers and thumbs are in contact, it momentarily forms a circle with both hands.

Your explanation makes more sense however, since the blue transmutation sparks always occur when they clap (from memory), rather than when they release.

Hum, I looked around a bit in older episodes and the one time I found when it is directly addressed (episode 12 if you're interested) is when Ed and Al are learning from Izumi; she tells them about construction symbols that go with transmutation circles. They ask about why she doesn't have to use them, she responds saying "I am like a construction symbol" so I guess it is open to interpretation still. I think using the whole body makes more sense, otherwise using both hands would be unnecessary and a waste of time. In one of the episodes Ed loses his automail and can't fix Al until he gets it back, if he was able to do it with one hand he would have.

[Paulyboy]

Bad ass! but I checked online is the next episode really gonna be the last?

[Marik]

Bad ass! but I checked online is the next episode really gonna be the last?

There are four episodes left. Episode 63 will be the last.

[oyabun]

Awesome. I was going to read the manga but I learned that it will almost end the same time with the anime. Maybe this time around Edward will earn his reputation. So far i'm not impress with him at all.

[itadakimasu]

Sorry guys... But I got inpatient.

Stream:

http://www.animetrack.com/2010/06/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-60-english-sub-watch-fma-brotherhood-episode-60-english-sub-online-video.html

Torrent:
( registration open i believe )
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[Prof. Chaos]

Here I thought it was Eclipse. I'm waiting for their release.

[itadakimasu]

Marik usually comes w\ the OFFICIAL stuff :) The last couple of weeks it's come out a little earlier, so I was ready yesterday to watch it.

[Sam98034]

It looks like they all live happily ever after :)

[Marik]

Sengoku Basara 2 will now start on July 11th and there will be a 64th episode of FMA:B on July 4th.


The July issue of Tokuma Shoten's Animage magazine lists the 64th and final episode of the Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood anime series on July 4 in Japan. The episode will match the final chapter of the manga, which will be published in the July issue of Square Enix's Monthly Shonen Gangan magazine on Friday.

Source (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-06-08/fma/b-ends-july-4-sengoku-basara-2-starts-july-11)

[Marik]

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[Cal_kashi]

HOLY SHIT!

[itadakimasu]

+1 I was expecting a little more fighting, especially when Hoenheim showed that he was still there.

Whoever repped me about my demonoid comment, sent me a message for an invite code.

[Buffalobiian]

Hmm. For some reason this didn't feel very epic. Story-wise it was certainly on a planetary scale, but it didn't induce the seat-gripping emotion to finish it off.

Scar had a good card up his sleeve, but he'll have to thank everybody who's had a go at Wrath to wound him like that. Looks like all that "Creation is blasphemy against God" shit was an excuse after all.

[Testarossa Autodrive]

Quite honestly, it was a little more epic in the manga. I thought to myself, "Wow, this is gonna be ridiculous when it's animated!" And as I watched, it just didn't pack the same punch it did on page (or in this case, on the computer screen). The fact that we were expecting this, however, probably contributed to the lack of epic-ness; at least in my opinion. If there hadn't been so many "with this power, I will no longer be tied down to your so-called God" hints, it might've been a little more surprising. The events leading up to another Xerxes catastrophe was obvious. The fact that Father's been attempting to capture the power of God was just as, if not more so when putting together all the telltale signs. *shrug*

[depthcharge]

That is one big ass gate. So the big gate is for the dog and the small gate for the cat or the other way round.

[Buffalobiian]

That is one big ass gate. So the big gate is for the dog and the small gate for the cat or the other way round.

I'm not getting you.

[Sam98034]

I'm confused about the dog and the cat.

[depthcharge]

Remember the scientist that open up 2 holes in his door for his dog and cat?

Well, the scenes in this episode of the gates(plural) opening reminded me of that.


First the father put his hand that activated the small xmutation circle for the small gate, then the city-wide gate open followed by the country-wide gate.

I assumed that the different sized gates were for different "entities"
In this case, a gate big enough for God. (depending on whether you like cat or a dog heck even a lion, could materialize from the gate, ^^^more like a manufactured fantasy for the God to be formed like a Cat or Dog, blame it on weed smoking and other intoxication but I had a weird connection there.)

[DarthEnderX]

Quite honestly, it was a little more epic in the manga. I thought to myself, "Wow, this is gonna be ridiculous when it's animated!" And as I watched, it just didn't pack the same punch it did on page (or in this case, on the computer screen). The fact that we were expecting this, however, probably contributed to the lack of epic-ness; at least in my opinion. If there hadn't been so many "with this power, I will no longer be tied down to your so-called God" hints, it might've been a little more surprising. The events leading up to another Xerxes catastrophe was obvious. The fact that Father's been attempting to capture the power of God was just as, if not more so when putting together all the telltale signs. *shrug*As someone who's not a manga reader I can say that the fact that Father's plan is never really clear contributes to the lack of epicness.

They've never really established the thing beyond the gate is supposed to be God before now. Not only that, but supposedly Father wants the power of that God, but what power is that exactly? The only power the thing in the gate has ever shown so far is taking body parts from people. Pretty sure Father could already do that without going to all this trouble.

Also taking away from the epicness is the fact that they make it look like everybody just died. Pretty sure they aren't unless the rest of the series is just Father wallowing in his epic victory, but you kept waiting for whatever the good guys were gonna do to kick in, and it doesn't in this episode.

[Penner]

I'm really curious how the hell the good guys are going to stop this now...

[DarthEnderX]

I'm guessing the Ishbalans will activate their anti-circle and it will help.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm really curious how the hell the good guys are going to stop this now...

I'm still waiting for them to show the significance of the 5? souls Hoenheim leaked into the earth before all this happened.

[Sam98034]

I'm guessing the Ishbalans will activate their anti-circle and it will help.

See, in the Manga, they didn't allude to the Ishbalans plan that much. In the anime it wasn't subtle at all! Also, we all assumed that they would all die once they were sacrificed. Everyone figured that they were going to stop Father before he did any of his crap. No one expected everyone to be sacrificed. In the Manga it seemed more GAME OVER once all of this happend. It had more of a "OH SHIT! What happens now?!?!" moment to it. In the anime almost everyone is assuming that it's all gonna be a happy ending still.

[Marik]

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[DeathscytheVII]

Kinda anti-climactic considering Hohenheim just fixed everything up, but I am satisfied since they did lay the foundation for his counter attack pretty well.

I originally thought that 'Father' got himself a buffed up version of Al's body, but i guess not, is there any specific reason his 'god' form looked like Edward/Young Hohenheim? That old man voice didn't suit him.

Wrath's end was pretty much a fluke, stupid light :rolleyes:

The real treat in this episode for me was just the return of Kimblee, man i wish his character stayed around longer, he is simply badass, and that line about him enjoying the cries of agony like lullabies haha. awesome.

With Pride's downfall, that's the last of the homunculus (except greed), things are starting to look awfully one sided again, i wonder what tricks father has left to pull out.....

[Buffalobiian]

Kinda anti-climactic considering Hohenheim just fixed everything up, but I am satisfied since they did lay the foundation for his counter attack pretty well.


I actually thought the return of the souls with Rain playing in the background was pretty damn climatic - and much more so than watching Father take in God last episode.

With 3 episodes to go, it's hard to imagine how they'd be able to top this with the "true" climax - the final confrontation will probably work its way back to Ed/Al duking it out with Truth again.

Finally, the "Perfect Being" was rather good looking. :o

[Jessper]

Wow, amazing episode. The wrath fight ended well, pride's death was good, and Hohenheim lived up to all the expectations I had. Top notch. Oh ya, and Father creating a star in the palm of his hand was awesome as well.

I hope we get to see Riza laying some punishment into father with a sniper rifle, someone's gotta pay him back for Mustang's loss of vision.

[Prof. Chaos]

It sure seemed like the fight with Father down below before he decided to head top side was rather short. It just had more of an epic feeling in the manga.

[Cal_kashi]

Kimblee is a badass, and sorta more likable now. Amazing.

[Penner]

Damn Bradley is one badass fighter, already being heavily damaged from a bunch of previous fights, then having his arms removed and still he's stabbing people with a broken sword using his mouth, fucking hardcore!

[fireheart]

What impressed me the most about King Bradley was the fact that during this whole fight to the death he had the chance to use the philosophers stone and add all those lives but didn't and duked it out to that level without his ultimate eye.

[Buffalobiian]

What impressed me the most about King Bradley was the fact that during this whole fight to the death he had the chance to use the philosophers stone and add all those lives but didn't and duked it out to that level without his ultimate eye.

I wonder if it would actually add any benefit to him. So far, he hasn't been shown to have any regenerative abilities at all - and hence he can't "use up lives" like the others have been doing.

Since aging is the inability to regenerate yourself properly, I doubt having it would grant him anything.

Scar, on the other hand, may benefit from it since he's actively using Alchemy, so bringing a philosopher's stone to his attention may not be the best choice to make.

[depthcharge]

I am happy just watching Al transmuting a broken radio and fixing it.

Anything more then that is simply fabulous. Making a portable nuclear fission ball, just wow!

[fireheart]

I wonder if it would actually add any benefit to him. So far, he hasn't been shown to have any regenerative abilities at all - and hence he can't "use up lives" like the others have been doing.

Since aging is the inability to regenerate yourself properly, I doubt having it would grant him anything.

Scar, on the other hand, may benefit from it since he's actively using Alchemy, so bringing a philosopher's stone to his attention may not be the best choice to make.

Well don't really know if this is the case but some people that read the manga talked about how Bradley only had one life left in him which is why he doesn't regenerate. It's kinda hard to verify this since we've hardly seen him take any damage at all until recently, but with his eye it isn't impossible. But it should be possible for him to use the stone and regenerate since there's one more homunculus that used a human body and Greed can still regenerate so by that standard he should be able to.

[Prof. Chaos]

Well don't really know if this is the case but some people that read the manga talked about how Bradley only had one life left in him which is why he doesn't regenerate. It's kinda hard to verify this since we've hardly seen him take any damage at all until recently, but with his eye it isn't impossible. But it should be possible for him to use the stone and regenerate since there's one more homunculus that used a human body and Greed can still regenerate so by that standard he should be able to.

Lin Yao fully accepted Greed and all the souls with him. Bradly was the only one to survive being injected with the stone, but rejected/fought off the invasion of souls but managed to come out of it with only a single soul remaining.

[Sam98034]

Wrath's end was pretty much a fluke, stupid light :rolleyes:




There was supposed to be irony in it. That "fluke" came right after he said something about there being no God.

As far as Wrath having one life: I think it's pretty accurate. He was supposed to be the only Homonculous that aged so that people would not get suspicious of their leader.

[DarthEnderX]

is there any specific reason his 'god' form looked like Edward/Young Hohenheim?That should be fairly obvious. His body is copied from Hoenheim. So if the process gives him a new rejuvenated body, it makes sense that it would look like a youthful Hoenheim.

[Kraco]

Bradley isn't dead. We have seen enough times that he doesn't die even if you kill him. He's just enjoying a nap.

[Penner]

Ye, he's the Chuck Norris of FMA.

[KillaSh0t]

Ye, he's the Chuck Norris of FMA.


That means he's gonna roundhouse kick somebody in the face soon

[itadakimasu]

http://www.animetrack.com/2010/06/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-62-english-sub-watch-fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood-episode-62-english-sub-online-stream.html

Rushed / crappy translations but good enough to get the gist of what they're saying... I know.... video quality wasn't too bad in full screen though, actually pretty good for full screen w\ an embed video like that.

I know, alot of you are waiting for the eclipse release. I'm going to grab it when Marik posts it and rewatch the ep ( it was that good )

[Yukimura]

I watched the TMD-Raze release back on Sunday. This ep was pretty awesome. I wish Soul Eater could have taken notes. If you're going to end a fight with a punch to the face THIS is how you should do it.

[itadakimasu]

I watched the spear sequence 6-7 times when I watched it. it was so awesome.

[Paulyboy]

Fuck! Its already Thursday.... Im trying to wait for Eclipse release. No SD? Whats Marik doing? MARIK! I tried searching torrent sites for regular avi :( to no avail I couldn't find any.

[Marik]

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I tried searching torrent sites for regular avi :( to no avail I couldn't find any.
There's an avi for you.

[Yukimura]

@Paulyboy: Did you skip tokyotosho.info?

TokyoTosho Search for "Brotherhood 62 avi" (http://www.tokyotosho.info/search.php?terms=brotherhood+62+avi&type=1&size_min=&size_max=&username=) would have returned what you were looking for.

[Paulyboy]

THANK YOU MARIK! :).

@Yukimura: I will have to bookmark that site. Thanks.

[depthcharge]

Thats the end? God mode failure. Pwned so badly that his portable fusion ball lost all its coolness.

[Buffalobiian]

I got a bit hot-eyed following Al's move. THAT'S how you power-up.

From the looks of things, I reckon Hoenheim would be the one to get Ed and Al back to normal. Truth doesn't look like it wants to give back what it's taken without a replacement. At the same time, he doesn't seem to have a lot to offer himself.

Does God grant wishes out of gratitude?

[Marik]

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[Harima Kenji]

Patience has been rewarded. Amazing episode! Just 2 more to go.

[Kraco]

It was badass fight. Father was really running out of batteries. The ending somewhat showed that despite all the power he had gathered over the centuries his soul was still that of a little fuzzy thing in a flask. Compared to Ed's soul, it wouldn't be a match.

Somewhat funny none of the soldiers really had a single bullet left to use after Father had to drop his energy shielding.

[Penner]

So..much...awesome...nggghhhhhh!!

[NeoCybercoin]

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Eclipse ain't out yet so TMD-Raze would have to do for now. Enjoy

[Testarossa Autodrive]

Is there an .avi format?

[Marik]

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[The1LittleMchale]

I can always wait for Eclipse.

[Buffalobiian]

That scene with Ed and Al was portrayed like many romantic rescues were - it's funny. :)

I loved Hohenheim's conclusion, and that was the third time they've used "Rain" somewhere other than the OP - it's just that awesome.

The full song doesn't quite have that effect though.

[Marik]

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[RyougaZell]

So awesome T___T

[Penner]

This ep kinda felt like the finale :P

[Buffalobiian]

This ep kinda felt like the finale :P

Well yeah.

The next episode would basically be an "Epilogue" chapter - which is pretty fitting for a "faithful adaptation" if the manga version also follows such a format (and I highly expect it would).

[capoi]

This episode can be consider as a finale. Still looking forward for the next episode.

Did anybody know what the new series awaiting us? Is it worth to watch and awesome like Fullmetal?

[Buffalobiian]

Did anybody know what the new series awaiting us? Is it worth to watch and awesome like Fullmetal?

Sengoku BASARA 2 takes the Sunday 5pm slot.

[depthcharge]

Alchemist can perform human transmutation and save 1 single person's life and return unharmed just by trading their alchemist skills.(trading of their Truth Gate)

Not a bad trade.

[Penner]

With Ed saying that it was "his truth" and he could to what he wanted with it i just got the impression that the whole human transmutation that he did only works for people that have actually "seen the truth" :P

[Buffalobiian]

Alchemist can perform human transmutation and save 1 single person's life and return unharmed just by trading their alchemist skills.(trading of their Truth Gate)

Not a bad trade.

Al didn't die. His entire body was taken to the other side of the gate as payment for learning about the Truth.

Ed decides to give up his gate, together with all the alchemy skills he has, and gets everything back (Al and Ed's lower leg).

As for why Ed gets to trade Al back along with his leg, I guess it's because his Gate contains all the alchemy he knows, along with his normal potential, which wasn't given by the Truth to begin with - and hence paying for Al's share too.

[Yukimura]

@depthcharge: Once Ed made the trade his gate disappeared meaning he couldn't go back, they had to use Al's gate to leave. The sacrifice your ability to use alchemy to get whatever you want trick would only work if you had someone who was also stuck inside the void that could use their gate to pull you back after you made the deal. I suppose you could also get what you wanted and then just stay inside the empty place though.

As for Ed's leg I don't think he got it back or if he did I don't think it's fair. He lost it as his payment for opening his gate just as Al lost his body for opening his. It seems unbalanced for Ed to be able to get back what both he and Al lost by opening their respective gates by sacrificing only his own ability to use alchemy. If everyone has their own gate then everyone should be responsible for their own 'pride' in opening it so 'buying back' Ed's leg should cost at least as much as 'buying back' Al's body.

[Sam98034]

Ed's leg didn't come back because there was no transmutation circle on it. Remember, Mae only threw daggers at his arm.

[Buffalobiian]

Ed's leg didn't come back because there was no transmutation circle on it. Remember, Mae only threw daggers at his arm.

That was only because Al reversed the transmutation and exchanged his soul for Ed's arm.

Eastern Alchemy was necessary because Al was doing it at a distance, and an arm sitting a few metres away from Ed wouldn't have done him any good.

To me, the Truth's words "Take it all" along with his actual disappearance means Ed got "Everything" back. It does sound unfair as it means Al got his Truth without sacrificing anything, but that's all the sense I can make of it.

From what I understand, everyone has their own gate - and everyone has the potential for alchemy more or less. The price they gave up was for opening it. If Ed decided to destroy the entire thing, it makes sense that he gets a bit extra.

[Kraco]

Maybe Truth isn't such a greedy and spiteful merchant after all. Ed being a longtime customer, one leg would have been fair for all the loyalty, especially considering they won't be trading ever again. With no alchemy, Ed couldn't even chase for a method to get it back by other means. I think it's extemely fair.

[depthcharge]

What if the first human transmutation that the alchemist attempt is solely for the purpose of seeing the Truth gate.

You try to sacrifice your own life, to be reborn. Since it is a equivalent trade, you dont lose anything and gain the Truth gate.

Then proceed to sacrifice your Truth gate for another life.

As far as the Gates are concerned, are they simply information stores, or a doorway between 2 places?

Truth Gate seems to store transmutation information.

However as Yukimura mentioned, you need a Gate to go back to real world?

[Buffalobiian]

What if the first human transmutation that the alchemist attempt is solely for the purpose of seeing the Truth gate.

You try to sacrifice your own life, to be reborn. Since it is a equivalent trade, you dont lose anything and gain the Truth gate.

Then proceed to sacrifice your Truth gate for another life.

As far as the Gates are concerned, are they simply information stores, or a doorway between 2 places?

Truth Gate seems to store transmutation information.

I'm not quite understanding the idea of this "reborn" theory.


However as Yukimura mentioned, you need a Gate to go back to real world?

That seems to be the case, and it's necessary for the trade to remain equivalent.

In essence, right now Al's got augmented alchemy powers while Ed lost off of his.

[depthcharge]

To illustrate the theory with an example.

Ed tries to perform human transmutation to bring back Al's soul and body. Once he gets to the "white" world, he talks to the chump with no face. While in the "white" world, he decided that, hmm I dont want to trade anything and supposedly cancels the transmutation. He would still have seen the Truth Gate and return to the normal world without losing anything, supposedly reborn.

That is a big "If."

At the end of the day, both Ed and Al did lose, between them, 1 leg and 1 set of alchemy capability.

[Buffalobiian]

To illustrate the theory with an example.

Ed tries to perform human transmutation to bring back Al's soul and body. Once he gets to the "white" world, he talks to the chump with no face. While in the "white" world, he decided that, hmm I dont want to trade anything and supposedly cancels the transmutation. He would still have seen the Truth Gate and return to the normal world without losing anything, supposedly reborn.

Why would he be reborn?

Any attempt at human transmutation ends up with a shrivelled black mess.

[depthcharge]

I yield. Just me reading stuff where there is none.

[itadakimasu]

Well yeah.

The next episode would basically be an "Epilogue" chapter - which is pretty fitting for a "faithful adaptation" if the manga version also follows such a format (and I highly expect it would).

Having not gotten very far into the manga, I can't criticize the first anime series for any filler content or twists on the story... but this was so awesome. I really liked the way the first series ended and was worried this series would be crap.

This was my favorite viewing experience ever, having watched it from beginning to end as it happened.

[JaySee]

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[NeoCybercoin]

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Someone better give Roy a razor!

Edit: I've read that there's going to be movie. How true is this? And what would the plot be all about?

[Inazuma]

Hell yeah, thats a nice conclusion to a magnificient serie.

[Testarossa Autodrive]

I heard an OVA speculation as well. Not sure about a movie, but that would be interesting.

Edit: I said I wasn't going to tear up even though I knew what to expect. I thought I'd d'awed over the series when I finished reading the manga, but I guess not. I friggin' love Fullmetal Alchemist so much.

[Buffalobiian]

As mentioned before, episode 63 was more like the finale, but this episode still made some great wrap-ups.

I really can't pick out what's left unanswered.

Den's confused face was pretty funny.

Lan Fan being the SS Agent she is in Lin's shadow was a nice touch. I didn't even see her until I watched the ED twice.

Ed's son having the exact same grin brought one to my face too.

This series has been nothing short of fantastic.

[Marik]

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[RyougaZell]

At the end of the episode there was an announcement saying a movie was green lit. It consisted of only kanji, so Eclipse left it out.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-07-04/fullmetal-alchemist/brotherhood-movie-green-lit

A great ending for a great series. Though I never expected Selim to still be around. And I was expecting to Al and May to have children as well, not only Ed and Winry.

[Buffalobiian]

And I was expecting to Al and May to have children as well, not only Ed and Winry.

Maybe in a little while Zell.

I'm sure Amsteris has a law about the minimum age of consent.

The doujinshi world, however, does not. :p

[Kraco]

Yeah, May was probably a tad young even in the credits photo. She was just a little girl during the series, after all. I wonder what Ed is doing, though. He obviously can't be a state alchemist anymore, so unless he got a permanent pension for saving the country, he should have acquired some sort of a profession. Well, he would anyway since he's hardly the kind of dude who would sit idle doing nothing. Maybe he writes books about the distant places he visits.

[shinta|hikari]

Maybe he gets his living and travel expenses from Winry, I don't think she would quit doing her automail job.

[JaySee]

He's got a sugar momma. I was wondering why Al didn't just fix the roof with alchemy. Hoenheim should have replaced Ed's gate for his before he died.

[Buffalobiian]

He's got a sugar momma. I was wondering why Al didn't just fix the roof with alchemy. Hoenheim should have replaced Ed's gate for his before he died.

I don't think it works that way.

Hoenheim could have rescued Al instead, but they didn't want to do that.


He obviously can't be a state alchemist anymore, so unless he got a permanent pension for saving the country, he should have acquired some sort of a profession. Well, he would anyway since he's hardly the kind of dude who would sit idle doing nothing. Maybe he writes books about the distant places he visits.

He can't be a State Alchemist, but he might be eligible as a researcher or something, and have the State budget pay for his traveling expenses.

He also has a stash of money in his bank, if it wasn't destroyed as part of the collateral damage.


I was wondering why Al didn't just fix the roof with alchemy.

Come on. How much do you want to rub it in his face? :o

[JaySee]

He should have let Hoenheim give up his gate instead. Let the dad do the dad thing without dying. Even though he died shortly after anyway.

[Penner]

I'm sad to see it go, but it was a great ending to an even greater series.

[shinta|hikari]

But that scene on the roof was a very good conclusion to Ed losing his powers. There are indeed things that only become visible when you lose something you take for granted. Change is not always negative, or a hindrance to obtaining happiness.

[DarthEnderX]

Holy shit, did I just watch an anime that actually had a happy ending?

Will wonders never cease.

[Jessper]

Truly a wonderful show. I'll miss seeing it every week but I couldn't ask for a better ending.

[Prof. Chaos]

But that scene on the roof was a very good conclusion to Ed losing his powers. There are indeed things that only become visible when you lose something you take for granted. Change is not always negative, or a hindrance to obtaining happiness.

That's the point. They always relied on Alchemy as a crutch to do everything, only to have it always destroy you. That's why "truth" said that he was beaten. Truth is, that we're all weak and need to realize that we're only human and can do so much.

Also the "back door" with Al is because they were tied together when they tried human transmutation.

[KillaSh0t]

Am i the only one that got tears in his eyes from watching this awesome serie end

[depthcharge]

nope, I did not get emotional. It ended happily ever after.

[Sam98034]

Honestly, besides maybe Berserk, I have not seen a better anime. Anyone have recommendations?

[Buffalobiian]

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[DarthEnderX]

Hiyono - FMA: Brotherhood OVA 04 (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=159496)This kind of paints Hughes as sort of an asshole.

His motivation for being willing to commit genocide seems kind of weak.

[Archangel]

Finally completed watching it, twas teh awesome.

All those deaths of all those great characters left the ending with a bittersweet taste, but to me that's exactly how one should feel when reminiscing on a really great series. One emotion wouldn't cut it, i demand to be both confused and amazed.

Only regret? Lack of results in the romance department, i wish we could have gotten to see more than just a photo with implied children from the Elric brothers and a pedostache from Mustang and Riza.

[MFauli]

Started watching this anime today. Never really gave it a try, because I didn´t like the artstyle many, many years back. Some girl I´m chatting about anime strongly recommended it, so after finishing Beelzebub, I´m not up to episode 4 of FMA. Episode 4 was really dark, didn´t expect the permanent crossing of the little girl and the dog. And then both getting killed. I expected some sort of happy end, but nope :>

I´m really excited how this anime will go on. I can´t see it beating HXH 2011, yet FMA is higher on most "best anime" top lists, so maybe it is possible.

[shinta|hikari]

Won't beat HxH in terms of fights and originality, but as a whole story, it delivers a fuller package, especially because it's over.

[MFauli]

Just saw episode 17. Wow, Roy Mustang is the biggest asshole ever.

[DarthEnderX]

Won't beat HxH in terms of fights and originality, but as a whole story, it delivers a fuller package, especially because it's over.Totally agree. As a series, it's one of the best complete packages. And it's still my go-to suggestion for someone that wants to be introduced to anime.

[ForteCross]

Just saw episode 17. Wow, Roy Mustang is the biggest asshole ever.
roy is a war veteran, a hero! he deserves our respect!

cant really remember what happens when so ill shut before spoiling anything....

the series itself is one of the best, if not the best interpretation of a manga series...

the manga even ended 1 month before this series ended, when the series started the manga was still ongoing but i believe already had all the material to wrap it out.

pretty much the 10~13 first episodes were rush out because it was old material already present in the first FMA...

[MFauli]

I´m at episode 30 now. Still enjoying it a lot.

At the same time, I don´t think this will beat out some of my existing favorite shows, like HXH or Fantastic Children.

What I like a bout FMA is that the entire anime is one continuous story. I guess you could glue together all episodes and turn it into one many hours long movie and it wouldn´t require any additional editing. That´s usually a thin in US live action-series or in more mature anime like "Monster". That´s what makes FMA kinda special. It´s setting is like that of a typical fighting shounen, yet its structure and presentation style are that of a more grounded series.

[Ryllharu]

One of the best things about FMA:B (as opposed to FMA) was the subtle progression of time. From start to finish you actually witness Ed and Winry maturing into adults from teens, physically, mentally and emotionally. If you're around episode 30, you should have seen the difference at least once.

It's masterfully done. Most often, it's Winry looking at Ed or Ed being more aware of Winry. But the way they do it is flawless.

[DarthEnderX]

From start to finish you actually witness Ed and Winry maturing into adults from teens, physically, mentally and emotionally. If you're around episode 30, you should have seen the difference at least once.Except for the part where it's a specific plot point that Ed DOESN'T age physically.

[Ryllharu]

Except that he does. You're thinking that he doesn't grow taller. Which is correct.

[ForteCross]

Except that he does. You're thinking that he doesn't grow taller. Which is correct.

yeah, its mentioned by winry how mature he becomes, and he does change physically too...

in the manga its easier to see because there was a time jump at some point, but in the anime they didnt said anything in that regard, it just happens naturally

[Ryllharu]

Right. His face becomes more square like Hoenhiem's, and less rounded like he and his brother were when they attempted to transmute their mother or in the Nina arc. He also gets quite a bit more built and muscular, with Winry noticeably focusing on his back.

You can see it very clearly when you compare an episode from the 45+ mark to the first 8 episodes.