Boku no Hero Academia

[Buffalobiian]

Mineta peeking is like self defence.

I'm done, lol.

[MFauli]

Mineta peeking is like self defence.

I'm done, lol.

I kinda liked that idea :P

[shinta|hikari]

An analogy would be killing someone because you chose to, and killing someone in self-defense.

You just won the internet for 7.2 days.

[DarthEnderX]

Also as for Darths nothing - murder, not sure if I got it but it seemed like Mfauli misunderstood, it's not that it's nothing or everything rather you either are a murder or you aren't. The spectrum is there just that it was an extreme example to show you either are or aren't something. So in terms of respecting women you either do or don't, you don't just respect them sometimes and at other times don't respect them.That's pretty much the gist.


What you´re saying is that I´m as bad as all those other people who harass, rape, discriminate, and so on.No, I'm saying neither of you respect women. They are obviously much worse than you, but the fact that you don't respect women still applies.

Again, to go back to the "stealing from a register and robbing a bank" example. Both of them are "thieves", but obviously the bank robber is a much worse version of a thief.

What you are saying is basically, "I don't rob banks, I don't rob convenience stores, I don't steal cars, I don't take people's wallets. I DO take fruit from fruit stands, but I'm not a thief." You ARE a thief though, because it only takes ONE of those things to make you a thief. You aren't NOT a thief just because you don't do MOST of those things.


Disagree, simply because I don´t see Mineta having committed a crime on the level of murder in any way whatsoever.And nobody is saying he did. Do you not know what the fuck an analogy is?

[MFauli]

No, I'm saying neither of you respect women. They are obviously much worse than you, but the fact that you don't respect women still applies.

And I still won´t accept this generalization. I think accidental peeping isn´t that bad. And because of this ONE thing, I´m supposed to disrespect women? Disrespect them in general, in any situation? Yeah, no.


Again, to go back to the "stealing from a register and robbing a bank" example. Both of them are "thieves", but obviously the bank robber is a much worse version of a thief.

Within that analogy, I´d be closer to someone buying groceries who had his bag open on the ground, then some product fell into the bag, which I only notice when I´m already back home.


And nobody is saying he did. Do you not know what the fuck an analogy is?

I refuse any analogy that somehow attaches murder to what Mineta did. That´s the kind of nonsensical escalation you´re also attempting when you label me is "disrespecting women".

[Kraco]

You should rewatch the episode. There was nothing accidental whatsoever in what Mineta was attempting to do. It's about as accidental as, using your grocery store example, you saw some ADHD brats wantonly throwing and kicking products around and you opened your bag to "accidentally" catch a few of the items, supposedly not noticing how they mysteriously landed straight in your bag.

[Munsu]

"Accidental peeping" LOL. That's still your description of that scene? Man you're fucking delusional. Which is sad.

[shinta|hikari]

Another sad thing is people are still compelled to continue this "discussion" when clearly one side refuses to even consider changing his mind, regardless of what happens. Talking to a wall should've gotten old fast.

[Munsu]

Well, sad as well calling a discussion sad (which it is) while at the same time prolonging said discussion.

Anyways, I don't care about changing his mind, he can think what he wants. I do care about how he's misrepresenting the FACTS of the scene which are clear as day... but what can I say, hard to talk to obtuse blind people.

But 2-3 short posts from myself requires little energy expenditure.

(I feel the beginning of another 'sad' tangent discussion starting lol, I already spent more energy in this post than all the ones prior to this).

[MFauli]

@Munsu: I explained that. Ofc there was intent. But only after Mineta accidentally found out about the hole. Which I feel is very different from knowing about the hole before entering the room and being dead set on peeping. Agreed? And stop being sad. Nobody´s sad :)


Another sad thing is people are still compelled to continue this "discussion" when clearly one side refuses to even consider changing his mind, regardless of what happens. Talking to a wall should've gotten old fast.

I "refuse to change my mind" as much as you do, don´t you think?

[Buffalobiian]

Don't you guys get it? It was self-defence

Jiro's earphone jack that is

[Kraco]

But only after Mineta accidentally found out about the hole. Which I feel is very different from knowing about the hole before entering the room and being dead set on peeping. Agreed?

Not agreed. There's no difference whatsoever. If he was the one who drilled the whole, there would be the difference of being guilty of damaging school property as well, but that's it. Unless you live in Russia, China, or equivalent, intention alone doesn't mean anything (there are no thought crimes), so it's pointless to ponder when the intention exactly started. I kind of doubt if somebody was found in possession of detailed plans of how to conduct peeping, he would be criminally charged (in the West), unlike planning terrorism, murder, or such.

[MFauli]

Not agreed. There's no difference whatsoever.

Then the debate is officially over. See ya on Saturday.

[DarthEnderX]

I feel like at this point, he's just trying to avoid self-reflection. Everyone else here has told him that at the very least the "intent" part of his argument is total bullshit.


But 2-3 short posts from myself requires little energy expenditure.I expend ALL OF THE ENERGY!!!

[MFauli]

I feel like at this point, he's just trying to avoid self-reflection. Everyone else here has told him that at the very least the "intent" part of his argument is total bullshit.

See, that´s typical SJW bs. Claiming that "everyone" did something. No. You. Just you called me "disrespecting women" for defending the coincidental peeping. And I won´t accept that. I respect women in every other context. I just don´t find this kind of peeping condemn-worthy. By calling me "disrespecting women" for just that, you´re putting me in the same basket as true misogynists that hate women and have truly horrible views. I don´t.

Do you realize that distinction? Probably not ...

[DarthEnderX]

Edit: Double post

[DarthEnderX]

Everyone else here has told him that at the very least the "intent" part of his argument is total bullshit.
See, that´s typical SJW bs. Claiming that "everyone" did something. No. You.
Yep...

Apparently this wasn't obvious.

11:50 - "Next door is, you know.. The girl's locker room."
11:59 - /rips off poster to enable better peeking.
12:00 - "boobs'
12:02 - /peeks.

He knows. Then he peeks. That's fucking INTENT.
He very much premeditated looking into it KNOWING full well what he'd see through it. Sorry, but this attempt of yours to make it into a "Hey look a random hole, I'm curious about what I can see through it" ridiculousness is quite daft.
You should rewatch the episode. There was nothing accidental whatsoever in what Mineta was attempting to do.
...just me.

[shinta|hikari]

That's not everyone though. I never commented on the issue! Ha! :o

[MFauli]

Yo, Darth, and when you´ve got no more argument to use, you go ad hominem with a quote dump. Already got the SJW-behavior internalized, huh?

Btw. just so this can end, because I don´t see it progressing anywhere: I think that finding an unplanned peeping is not that bad and it definitely doesn´t make you a misogynist. That´s as dumb as saying "You´re an alt-right supporter", because I don´t support transgender people, yet support all other minorities. Stop it with the "100% for us or 100% against us" mentality. I can find fun in some harmless peeping AND respect women.

[DarthEnderX]

Yo, Darth, and when you´ve got no more argument to use, you go ad hominem with a quote dump.It's not ad hominem, it's literally evidence that proves your statement false. Close your yourlogicalfallacyis.com tab, because you're doing it wrong.

[MFauli]

It's not ad hominem, it's literally evidence that proves your statement false. Close your yourlogicalfallacyis.com tab, because you're doing it wrong.

I have no idea about all your SJW catchphrases, sorry.

[shinta|hikari]

I have no idea about all your SJW catchphrases, sorry.

Just a note, this quote is actual ad hominem.

EDIT for question below:
Because you clearly think of SJW as a negative label, and you automatically labeled whatever he said as SJW vocabulary (I dunno if it is but that is beside the point.), therefore labeling him as an SJW. It is an attack towards the other party, not his argument.

[MFauli]

Just a note, this quote is actual ad hominem.

How so? I honestly don´t know his SJW vocabulary.

[Kraco]

Alright, that's enough of it. That particular discussion seems to have expired already, having been reduced to one sentence posts of no depth, so it's best to leave it as it is and probably wait for the next episode.

Plus I don't want to see the foul abbreviation SJW here at Gotwoot.

[MFauli]

Agreed, Kraco except for calling SJW a "foul abbreviation". It´s a perfectly fine term that describes a certain kind of people. And there´s no better synonyme, so I´ll keep using it. Just wanted to make that clear. Maybe you can split some of the offtopic discussion into a new thread or so if it´s too much for this one.

And going back to topic: Is there a new episode tomorrow? I can hardly keep up with all those off-weeks :/

[DarthEnderX]

34

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I guess anything in the top half of the class counts are "the smart kids" if they're counting Mineta at 9/20.

I was NOT expecting Bakugo to be 3rd!

I love the format for this exam.

I FINALLY get find out what Sugarman's power is. Now they just need to show me Anima's.

[Buffalobiian]

I don't understand how Bakugo is smarter than Deku when Deku's been the one outsmarting him.

Anyway, good luck fighting this:


https://youtu.be/TPp1GhuIP4o?t=85

[David75]

I don't understand how Bakugo is smarter than Deku when Deku's been the one outsmarting him.

Anyway, good luck fighting this:


https://youtu.be/TPp1GhuIP4o?t=85
I somehow remember that AM powers time limit was a lot lower than 30minutes... So who knows ?

[Munsu]

I don't understand how Bakugo is smarter than Deku when Deku's been the one outsmarting him.

Anyway, good luck fighting this:


https://youtu.be/TPp1GhuIP4o?t=85

Better Grades != Being Smarter

[Buffalobiian]

Better Grades != Being Smarter

It thought that was the written exam, which means either you're smarter or you study harder. Midoriya shouldn't lose in either of those.

@David: yeah, that might be true now. It was a while back when All Might had a 1hr time limit. I think that was during the Noumu fight actually, since he was late for the lesson due to recovering. (edit: episode 14, just before the sports tournament, All Might states his limit is 50mins. Muscle-form = 1.5hrs)

Thinking about the exam, if invisible girl was to strip naked and run for the exit, that's game over.

[MFauli]

So ... let´s talk about Mineta again, this week? :P :P :P


It thought that was the written exam, which means either you're smarter or you study harder. Midoriya shouldn't lose in either of those.
.

That´s assuming Bakugo isn´t a hardworker, too. We simply haven´t seem him study. But I´d say Bakugo has shown the most tenacity of all characters. He simply suffer Vegeta-syndrome: He can´t ever beat the hero of the show.

@episode: Kinda lame that we already have another tournament, two in one season is a bit much. But I´m not really complaining, since I´m interested in those fights, too.

[Munsu]

It thought that was the written exam, which means either you're smarter or you study harder. Midoriya shouldn't lose in either of those.


Or you're simply better at taking written tests. That's an actual thing.




@episode: Kinda lame that we already have another tournament, two in one season is a bit much. But I´m not really complaining, since I´m interested in those fights, too.

What tournament?

[DarthEnderX]

I assume he means this exam, which has fights kinda like a tournament.


Thinking about the exam, if invisible girl was to strip naked and run for the exit, that's game over.Well, she's fighting that guy that can shoot people AROUND rocks, so it's possible his quirk lets him hit people he can't see.

[Munsu]

I assume he means this exam, which has fights kinda like a tournament.


I know what he's referring to. Calling it a tournament is flat out wrong, so following that line of logic his objection is completely misplaced.

[Kraco]

I never thought Deku is any giant of intelligence or smarts. He was a hero fan so he spent a lot of time studying them. He was weak, so he had to come up with strategies and occasionally think a bit, not just tank through fights and other activities. He's hard worker, so that certainly helps with studying, provided he spends time on it and not only on muscle and endurance training. Still, he is a nerd of a kind, so stereotypically he should be quite good at academics. I dislike nerd type characters who aren't.

I'd assume Bakugo and Todoroki (not to mention that Momo princess living in a mansion) might even have private tutors.

Mineta... Some intelligent people are total creeps, so why not. And it's not like Mineta would have friends to hang out with or anything. Since he's probably simply spending most of his free time home watching porn, he might as well study occasionally.

[MFauli]

Is Bakugo´s family rich, too? Or why would he have tutors, Kraco?


I know what he's referring to. Calling it a tournament is flat out wrong, so following that line of logic his objection is completely misplaced.

It´s exactly like the first round of a tournament. Sorry if that opinion offends you :>

[Kraco]

I seem to recall Bakugo was living in quite a nice looking house. Considering the land prises in Japan, it ought to make his family somewhat wealthy at least.

[Munsu]

Is Bakugo´s family rich, too? Or why would he have tutors, Kraco?



It´s exactly like the first round of a tournament. Sorry if that opinion offends you :>

LOL, what?

It's not about offending or not, it's about calling things accurately or not. By that logic we might as well call any fight, match, competition a tournament because, you know, they're just like a first round in a tournament.

But whatever, here we go into another pointless tangent discussion. Have fun people.

[MFauli]

That´s unfair, Munsu, don´t leave because of me, I´m the Gotwoot-bad guy enough as is ;>

I just found the premise of seeing another couple episodes where all the students fight an opponent to be very same-y to the beginning of the season, which was a tournament. I wouldn´t have called it a tournament if it was just single fight. I apologize if that was too dumb. It´s just my first association of the situation.

[Munsu]

I hope they do right by Yaoyorozu in the coming episode. I thought she was going to be a badass when she was first introduced, and she's been anything but so far.

But I've been surprised with Jiro, I hope gets more screen time.

[Kraco]

I hope they do right by Yaoyorozu in the coming episode. I thought she was going to be a badass when she was first introduced, and she's been anything but so far.

I just want her to become Todoroki's girlfriend. I can't honest say she would matter super much to me otherwise. I would have barely remembered her power if the episode didn't remind of it.

[DarthEnderX]

I never thought Deku is any giant of intelligence or smarts. He was a hero fan so he spent a lot of time studying them. He was weak, so he had to come up with strategies and occasionally think a bit, not just tank through fights and other activities.Well he's 4th in the class so obviously he IS smart. Him being below Bakugo doesn't mean he's not smart because apparently Bakugo is inexplicably smart!

Then again...we didn't actually get to SEE the mid-term, so we don't know if the mid-term ALSO had some kind of "practical" portion that Bakugo might have aced that boosted his overall score.

[Kraco]

Well, yeah, I did use a past tense there. Now it's proven, at least to some degree, that he is smart. Although that being said, high school isn't so difficult that a bit of hard work wouldn't compensate for a lack of talent. Most of those who score badly at high school aren't simply studying pretty much at all.

[DarthEnderX]

Although that being said, high school isn't so difficult that a bit of hard work wouldn't compensate for a lack of talent.They don't go to high school though. They go to, like, a very prestigious private school.

[shinta|hikari]

Wait, private schools can't be private high schools!???

[DarthEnderX]

Wait, private schools can't be private high schools!???I meant they don't go to normal high school. So the curriculum might be more advanced.

[Kraco]

If anything, it should be less advanced since they spend time on this hero business instead of dedicating it all to academics and normal PE.

[shinta|hikari]

Yeah, definitely not as advanced as private high schools that specialize in academics. Heroes aren't exactly portrayed as smart in this show. That is why Izuku is such a special case, despite One for All.

[DarthEnderX]

35

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You heard them. Froppy has NO WEAKNESSES!!

I feel like in order for the handcuffs to count, you should have to have both cuffs on them.


Make sure you watch past the credits, because for some reason, there's part of a match there before the preview.

[MFauli]

Pretty boring episode. And the teacher are really weak, even when you consider the additional weight.

And yeah, Froppy is great. Sucks that Midoriya x Urarara seems to be canon couple :/

[neflight86]

Much enjoyed the episode, especially as a fan of the concept of a large ensemble cast. Good recovery of Mrs. Momo's qualities as a hero.

I never tire of the fabulous navel laser's antics and flamboyant personality.

[DarthEnderX]

Pretty boring episode. And the teacher are really weak, even when you consider the additional weight.I feel like without the escape and cuff win conditions, the teachers would mostly kick their asses in straight up fights.


And yeah, Froppy is great. Sucks that Midoriya x Urarara seems to be canon couple
https://i.giphy.com/media/jN0ygssTH2hoI/giphy.webp

[Kraco]

The Todoroki+Mono vs Eraser fight felt pretty forced, but I guess it's okay. But to be brutally honest, these fights are quite meaningless after everything we have seen so far. It's like watching some battle scarred war veteran going through basic training, without any comedy.

I have nothing against a canon couple like that. I have been wanting from the beginning for those two to become official.

[DarthEnderX]

36

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Nezu is awesome. His power is just being a chess master. I'm still not sure what kind of animal he is though...

It took 36 episodes to finally learn what all the student's powers were.

I don't fully understand Snipe. His power is "homing" and he says he can "feel your presence" but the Invisible Girl was still able to just walk up to him.

Only two teams managed to fail so far. Super looking forward to next week.

[MFauli]

Mineta is the greatest of heroes. "Just for once, let´s leave boobs for another day." What a badass line.

I was kinda disappointed that Midnight didn´t fall in love with Mineta when he beat her, considering her sado-maso attitude.

[DarthEnderX]

I was kinda disappointed that Midnight didn´t fall in love with Mineta when he beat her, considering her sado-maso attitude.Well, it's not like he tied her up or smacked her around. He just stuck her to the floor and ran off. That's not gonna get off anyone's S&M jollies.

[MFauli]

Which was surprising (read: disappointing), too: Am I supposed to believe that *that* Mineta would do a dash attack towards Midnight WITHOUT going in for a quick grope? It´s just kinda out of character ;>

[DarthEnderX]

Am I supposed to believe that *that* Mineta would do a dash attack towards Midnight WITHOUT going in for a quick grope? It´s just kinda out of characterIt's like he said. Leave boobs for another day. That's what makes him...A HERO!

[Buffalobiian]

I don't fully understand Snipe. His power is "homing" and he says he can "feel your presence" but the Invisible Girl was still able to just walk up to him.

But he did feel her's.

[Kraco]

Why is an animal controller afraid of bugs if he can command them around as he wishes? Nevertheless, it was a good way of winning the fight. Nezu's victory looked like bullshit unless that whole arena was specifically designed so that he could cause all that from a single spot. Either way, lightning and acid weren't too impressive.

[DarthEnderX]

Nezu's victory looked like bullshitChessmaster's victories usually do.

[NeoCybercoin]

Because fear can be quite irrational. Would be even funnier if someone could fly but was afraid of heights.

[Kraco]

Because fear can be quite irrational. Would be even funnier if someone could fly but was afraid of heights.

The traditional fear of heights, acrophobia, doesn't necessarily include fear of flying. There have been and are even pro/hobbyist pilots who possess acrophobia but are still doing their job/hobby. I guess climbing the stairs onto the plane is worse for them than flying the thing. Fear of heights is actually fear of falling, and when you can fly, you aren't falling. Although I suppose it might help you typically don't see straight down from airplanes.

But yeah, if it was a superpower, it might have given birth to such a fear if the individual in question, as a kid, had had poor control and had almost died when trying to unsuccessfully fly properly.

[DarthEnderX]

I know I've seen more than one character in fiction that could control fire that was afraid of fire.

In fact, it's more or less the entire plot of Frozen.

[Buffalobiian]

Episode 37

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All Might losing was pretty bullshit. Pulling lethal punches is one thing, but you're telling me that his endurance barely lasted that exam, and punching him was enough to keep him down.

[NeoCybercoin]

Well his time limit keeps on going down. Makes sense the rest of his power also goes down.

[DarthEnderX]

All Might losing was pretty bullshit. Pulling lethal punches is one thing, but you're telling me that his endurance barely lasted that exam, and punching him was enough to keep him down.If Deku had wrecked his arm, I'd have bought it. Because when he hits at 100% he should be almost as strong as All Might.

But his arm seemed fine, which seems to imply he wasn't using 100%.


In fact, he should have sacrificed one leg to propel himself at All Might. One arm to punch him. Grabbed Bakugo with the other arm. Then sacrificed his other leg to propel them both through the gate.

[NeoCybercoin]

That's the thing though. He knows he can't keep on doing that. If it were an actual life or death situation he might but Recovery Girl is already refusing to heal those sorts of injuries. The whole reason for his internship is to learn how to properly use it without destroying himself.

[DarthEnderX]

If it were an actual life or death situation he might but Recovery Girl is already refusing to heal those sorts of injuries.I still maintain the only thing she's refusing to heal is the double breaking his body he did during the Shoto fight that turned his body parts black instead of red, as those were the only injuries she couldn't fully heal.

[Buffalobiian]

That's the thing though. He knows he can't keep on doing that. If it were an actual life or death situation he might but Recovery Girl is already refusing to heal those sorts of injuries. The whole reason for his internship is to learn how to properly use it without destroying himself.

The point isn't about whether he breaks his bones or not. The point is that if he doesn't, he should be piss weak against All Might.

Given that All Might keeps letting his guard down, handcuffing him would have been the most believable way to win. You only need one moment's distraction.

[Kraco]

Isn't it obvious All Might thought they showed enough effort, results, and some rudimentary cooperation? So, he let them pass. How fair would this exam be otherwise? It's not a teacher's job to make students fail but to teach them and then check if they have learned.

[DarthEnderX]

Given that All Might keeps letting his guard down, handcuffing him would have been the most believable way to win. You only need one moment's distraction.I was thinking that too, it was weird they didn't try it.

[Kraco]

All Might's wrists are so thick the handcuffs wouldn't have worked, I presume.

[DarthEnderX]

All Might's wrists are so thick the handcuffs wouldn't have worked, I presume.The cuffs must be sized for the teacher. Otherwise that's not really a fair test.

[shinta|hikari]

When has any of this school's exams ever been fair..?

[neflight86]

When has any of this school's exams ever been fair..?

Deku got in without any battle points in the entrance exam.

[DarthEnderX]

38

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"Where can I get lockpicking tools and small drills."

Unintentional peeking...


I'm a little confused as to what exactly the schedule here is at this school. All Might says he's been teaching for 3 months. But they just had their final exams. Is this school only in session 3 months a year?

[Buffalobiian]

38

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"Where can I get lockpicking tools and small drills."

Unintentional peeking...


I'm a little confused as to what exactly the schedule here is at this school. All Might says he's been teaching for 3 months. But they just had their final exams. Is this school only in session 3 months a year?

Somehow they started school in April and now it's July for summer holidays. I don't know how northern hemisphere school schedules work. Normally it should start in September.

[DarthEnderX]

In the US, school starts in September and runs till June. With a couple week long breaks thrown in there.


So what does UA do for the other 9 months of the year? Or does their "three year" school do all 3 years in a single actual year?

[Munsu]

I'm interested in the schoolgirl villain. She seems fucked up.

[neflight86]

Excellent transitional episode to cool down the season just before confirming season 3. Hype.

[DarthEnderX]

Indeed. Hiatus is definitely the way to go to maintain series quality with these series. One Piece could learn a few things.




Also, I feel like Sero got robbed. Even if he did get KO'd right away, he DID save Minteta, who went on to win. And they specifically said only one person had to escape for them to pass.

[Munsu]

New season just began. Nothing to say at the moment as it was a shit recap episode. What a terrible way to start the season.

[MFauli]

New season just began. Nothing to say at the moment as it was a shit recap episode. What a terrible way to start the season.

Nothing to add.

[Buffalobiian]

Well after this episode I did go back to read our whole "Mineta peeking is bad" discussion. That was still as hilarious as ever.

[Munsu]

Well after this episode I did go back to read our whole "Mineta peeking is bad" discussion. That was still as hilarious as ever.

Please, for the love of God, why did you bring it up? Please let it end here, please please please.

[MFauli]

Well after this episode I did go back to read our whole "Mineta peeking is bad" discussion. That was still as hilarious as ever.

Still nothing wrong with it. And this time he only wanted to look at thr girls in their swimsuits.

However, opening the 3rd season with a mix of recap AND another peeping joke was recapally bad.

@munsu: nu-uh!

[Buffalobiian]

During the recap, they said that Creation girl uses lipids to create her stuff - wonder if that means she gets to lose weight as a side effect, or whether things just originate from where-ever she has subcutaneous fat (and thus skin).

As far as swimsuits go, Invisible girl is still the sexiest in some weird way.

[Ryllharu]

or whether things just originate from where-ever she has subcutaneous fat (and thus skin).

It's the latter. It's the very reason why Yaoyorozu's costume exposes so much skin when all the other girls (except Hagakure) have considerably more clothing.

It's the stuff like this that makes Hero Academia so popular. Everything is deliberate. There has to be a reason why the female heroes have exposed parts in their costumes. Like how Midnight is covered from neck to toe to make her power more potent when she releases it.

[neflight86]

Recap was a bit disappointing, but since this season has been confirmed for 25 episodes, I'll forgive it. I kinda enjoyed how the winners of the swim contest were the ones who didn't actually swim, save Midoria.

[DarthEnderX]

Fuck, 75% recap, 25% hot springs episode subversion!

[Kraco]

What a stupid first episode, full of recap. The studio should change the director to a competent one.

[DarthEnderX]

Imma go ahead and hold off on judging the director for more than ONE EPISODE.

[DarthEnderX]

40

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Ahh, that's better.

I was shocked when that scene with Deku standing around talking to those women in nothing but a towel didn't turn comedic.

[Munsu]

What does GG mean by the way?

[Buffalobiian]

40


I was shocked when that scene with Deku standing around talking to those women in nothing but a towel didn't turn comedic.

Hagakure and her invisibility was funny, on the other hand. Her entire use in the forest relied on her not using her invisibility. The fact that Alien Queen hi-fived her was pretty sick.

I look forward to seeing how she'd make her perk "stronger". If she ends up removing her presence (ie stops displacing water in a bath), that would actually change her perk entirely.

[MFauli]

And another fan-service centric episode. Swimswuits, onsen, what's left? Ah, how about a maid café? Lol

Otherwise bland episode. Losing interest in this series. Reminds me of Ballroom e Youkoso. Strong start, but then ...

[Munsu]

So... no one knows what "GG" means?

[neflight86]

Where is it mentioned?

[Munsu]

Where is it mentioned?

Bakugo says it to Todoroki, calls him something "you GG bastard" when they arrive at the cabin. Now I wonder if he meant "jiji" as in old dude (which I don't know why he would if that was the case).

[MFauli]

GG means 'good game', which you say to fellow hunters after a hunt in Monster Hunter.

[Munsu]

GG means 'good game', which you say to fellow hunters after a hunt in Monster Hunter.

Yeah......

[neflight86]

In the dub, he calls him "icy-hot", so maybe it means something similar?

[Buffalobiian]

Bakugo says it to Todoroki, calls him something "you GG bastard" when they arrive at the cabin. Now I wonder if he meant "jiji" as in old dude (which I don't know why he would if that was the case).

Cuz the dude has white hair.

[Munsu]

Cuz the dude has white hair.

Yeah, that can make sense. So, maybe mistranslation?

[shinta|hikari]

I can make sure by watching the episode. Timestamp?

[Munsu]

I can make sure by watching the episode. Timestamp?

14:13, but I don't hear "jiji", so he's saying something else that is being translated as "GG". Maybe something along "good guy" maybe? Considering the context, like a goody two-shoes.

Let me know if you can make it out.

[shinta|hikari]

He calls him "Nametsu-yarou." I don't know what "nametsu" means, and neither does jisho.org, so I'm guessing every sub group just made up their own insult lol.

[Buffalobiian]

It's the latter. It's the very reason why Yaoyorozu's costume exposes so much skin when all the other girls (except Hagakure) have considerably more clothing.

It's the stuff like this that makes Hero Academia so popular. Everything is deliberate. There has to be a reason why the female heroes have exposed parts in their costumes. Like how Midnight is covered from neck to toe to make her power more potent when she releases it.

Apparently she does lose fat!

This paves the way to her becoming this fat 40yo mum who doesn't need her superpowers anymore but still kept the habit of eating lots and wearing revealing clothing. :S

[MFauli]

Boring episode.

But I'm excited for next week. If the villains lose AGAIN, they're officially Team Rocket level

[Munsu]

Yeah, not much to this episode, but things should pick up now.

[DarthEnderX]

If the villains lose AGAIN, they're officially Team Rocket levelAnd if they win, the series ends...

[shinta|hikari]

They can win partially. Deal real damage without destroying the heroes.

[MFauli]

And if they win, the series ends...

Man, I wonder how other stories manage to do it then. Oh wait, they let the villain succeed at first, THEN defeat him.

🐧

[neflight86]

First big group fight since season 1. Looking forward to class B especially, now that they also gain the stigma of being attacked by villains. I wonder where Shigaraki is? He hasn't been shown yet.

[Buffalobiian]

Episode 42

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We've found a solution to Deku's problem. What's already broken can't be broken again, so let's use 100000000000000000% smashes on the broken arm!

Not having a believable way out of this fight made it a bummer.

[MFauli]

Extremely lame episode. Bs power up.

And villains fail.to accomplish anything AGAIN. Why should I be scared for our heroes because of this Team Rocket 2.0?

So they'll kidnap Bakugo, woohoo, so evil! Why didnt that one viain actually crush the blue catgirl's head? He's EVIL. Why not do it? Oh I know: because that'd be a small victory for evil. Can't let that happen :/

[NeoCybercoin]

So they're going after Bakugo because he's the most likely according to them to become a Villain?

[Buffalobiian]

If you showed me Muscle Villain's mug and told me he was Bakugo's dad, I'd believe you.

[Munsu]

I think you guys should just stop watching action/adventure shounen altogether.

[MFauli]

I think you guys should just stop watching action/adventure shounen altogether.

HXH is shounen, too, and didn't suck :/

[Munsu]

HXH is shounen, too, and didn't suck :/

The exception to the rule, which also at times fell into the same pitfalls you're complaining here about.

I thought the fight in this episode was quite exciting, BS and all that, but the emotion that came through as the action was being developed was very good.

[Buffalobiian]

I don't know man, using an arm despite it being broken (and having lost mechanical integrity) is like Sunrising from the dead. We overlook it mostly, but it's still a shit move.

[neflight86]

I don't mind the way the arm thing played out so long as there is a price to pay down the road. His second 100% smash was weakened enough that he got trapped because the arm was broke by the first. That checks out. The turnaround was a combination of the kid's distraction and shounen resolve. It was not tactically satisfying, but to outright dismiss for that it is to dismiss other similar shounen power ups like Gon's nen-puberty, Rock Lee's effort, or every time Ippo stood back up, and I can't bring myself to do that. What kind of trick was he supposed to use against a discount All Might if not overpowering strength in that situation?

All Might overdid it in season one and got reduced by it, Midoria did the same thing in the tournament and has a crooked hand now, so I expect a similar fallout for this stunt. I'm actually more impressed that this whole fight was a single episode. Apparently, we've got things to do and places to go.

As far as the villain's victories, it is implied that the corpse guy ate Ragdoll (one of the pussycats), so that's a loss, right? We don't know what Dabi did to Aizawa. The Big-lipped dude seems to gain his striking strength by creating an attraction between an object (the stick) and a person, so someone right next to the stick has no room to build up the momentum for the lethal blow, if I'm spit-balling why he asn't killed her yet, along with the nebulous "anime time".

I'm still loving what MHA has to offer and don't feel that it has betrayed any expectations I've built for it yet.

[MFauli]

Gon's spontaneous growth basically killed him/rendered him powerless. I'm sure Midoriya won't face any such consequences. Also Gon's growth happened towards the end of the anime and after he had mastered various nen-techniques. Midoriya is still a beginner, who got a powerup because ... because. It's similar to Ruffy's bs upgrade when he used gear 2 without any prior mention.

Rock Lee and Ippo are both boxers/martial artists who dedicated their life to their sports. It fits that they'd have a specially firm will.

Tbh if this season ends without some real accomplishiments for the villains (and I mean dead heroes, yes. And dead heroes that aren't All Migh, because his death is way too predictable), I'll drop this anime. S1 had me hooked, S2 already was lackluster.

[Munsu]

Gon's spontaneous growth basically killed him/rendered him powerless. I'm sure Midoriya won't face any such consequences. Also Gon's growth happened towards the end of the anime and after he had mastered various nen-techniques. Midoriya is still a beginner, who got a powerup because ... because. It's similar to Ruffy's bs upgrade when he used gear 2 without any prior mention.

Rock Lee and Ippo are both boxers/martial artists who dedicated their life to their sports. It fits that they'd have a specially firm will.

Tbh if this season ends without some real accomplishiments for the villains (and I mean dead heroes, yes. And dead heroes that aren't All Migh, because his death is way too predictable), I'll drop this anime. S1 had me hooked, S2 already was lackluster.

Why are you assuming Midoriya won't face any consequences when he HAS faced consequences in similar situations? While it may end up being true, you really have a terrible habit of jumping into conclusions prematurely.

Also, I don't think the assumption that his "power-up" is out of nowhere, if we can even call it that. We already know that One-for-All in essence has a baggage of power passed down from people who have carried before him. In fact, prior to his shout we saw some of the foreshadowing that led to this supposed "power-up". We've already seen him seemingly access the presence of previous users to get out of jams in the past (not saying that's what happened here, but again it can fit).

Also, I think we're taking the 1,000,000% very literally. Obviously he didn't do such a thing or he would've destroyed the whole mountain at minimum. In my opinion it was nonsense he shouted at heat of the battle to illustrate that he was putting everything he had into it damn the consequences to go along with the new Delaware-Detroit combo with a mixture of nice adrenaline.

[DarthEnderX]

And villains fail.to accomplish anything AGAIN.Did I miss an episode? Isn't only 1 of the 10 villains down?


I don't mind the way the arm thing played out so long as there is a price to pay down the road.Indeed. His hand is still all scarred up from when he had to double use his fingers against Todoroki. And healing girl specifically said she wouldn't heal injuries like that anymore.

[shinta|hikari]

Healing Girl only said that to stop him from doing reckless things. This case is clearly an exception. If he didn't push himself, both he and the kid would be dead.

[Buffalobiian]

He shouldn't actually have an arm anymore.

[shinta|hikari]

Wait, why?

[MFauli]

He shouldn't actually have an arm anymore.

That'd make sense and be an actual exciting development. A one-armed hero. Considering that All-Might was too strong anyway, having a successor with only one arm would level the field.

[Buffalobiian]

Wait, why?

Because that should be the consequence of putting 100000000000% through and already broken arm. It broke with 100% because his body couldn't take it. To then apply way more force through it again should destroy it beyond repair, not just have it patched up with some extra scars.

It's like every other character or machine that goes "beyond the limit" - you lose something in return. It's the character's willingness to accept this which makes it meaningful. Think of Iron-Blooded Orphans, for example.

[shinta|hikari]

Oh you mean in terms of story development, that's what should've happened to make it more meaningful and interesting?

I thought you were analyzing it from a logical POV, which in this story is utterly meaningless. You literally can't go above 100%, after all. People who say that don't understand basic math. It's the same with going "beyond your limits." That also doesn't make sense. If you go beyond your limits, by definition, that wasn't your limit.

[DarthEnderX]

Because that should be the consequence of putting 100000000000% through and already broken arm. It broke with 100% because his body couldn't take it. To then apply way more force through it again should destroy it beyond repair, not just have it patched up with some extra scars.As others have already said, 1,000,000% was obvious hyperbole on Deku's part. That attack was cool and all, but it CLEARLY wasn't 1000x stronger than All Might's attacks.

[neflight86]

I agree that %1,000,000 smash was a poor move name. I seriously doubt that that signified anything more than his resolve. After all, All Might isn't actually throwing around American states with each dramatic punch.

It wasn't satisfying; I get that, because most other fights in MHA so far have had more thought put into them. For a one episode fight, I'll take it and assume this won't be the norm because it hasn't been the norm. A sub-par encounter: MHA is in good company. Naruto had years of filler. One Piece has less material to work with each episode than a single manga chapter. Bleach was Bleach. Hunter even had some boring episodes and overwrought concepts. I'm not worried about MHA in the least. Any disappointment is a direct result of expectations which have been risen by a great series!

That said, if this is enough to 'break' the show for you, there's not much that can help that. There's plenty of great animu out there to try.

[Buffalobiian]

As others have already said, 1,000,000% was obvious hyperbole on Deku's part. That attack was cool and all, but it CLEARLY wasn't 1000x stronger than All Might's attacks.

But 100% Deku punch isn't necessarily 100% All Might punch. Nemu could take a 100% All-Might Punch and he was designed for shock absorption, not just a large muscle that happened to have some shock absorbing properties. All Might required 300 punches then, when in his prime he would have required 5. That's a 60x power variation within All-Might himself there. I'm not sure Deku even matches the lower output right now.

On a related note, I really hate how they dropped the plot point regarding Deku's one successful punch during the first League of Villain fight. The logic was that his arm didn't break despite his 100% punch because his brain knew he was punching a living being and subconsciously limited it's power just enough. This is what Deku thought anyway, but he should have really built on this idea.

In reality it was probably just Nemu absorbing all that power but whatever.

[DarthEnderX]

But 100% Deku punch isn't necessarily 100% All Might punch.I think the entire point is that it IS. That's why Deku keeps injuring himself, because Deku's body can't handle All Might's full power.

[shinta|hikari]

Deku also explicitly said that in the episode. He said 100% is in fact All Might's full power.

[Buffalobiian]

Well then.. fair enough. I'll take that as a 100% All Might Punch then.

[NeoCybercoin]

New ep is out.

Time for the others to shine. Midoriya is useless now when it comes to combat. Time for the rest!

[DarthEnderX]

I think the villains are going to be disappointed if they think they can recruit Bakugo.

[Buffalobiian]

Interestingly the Stain-inspired villians this episode (or at the very least just Reptile guy) see a true hero in Deku. I wonder what he thinks about All Might if he showed up to fight.

[neflight86]

Seems like only the lizzard dude (spinner?) is actually carrying that torch.

Red head has her work cut out for her if the full extent of her powers amounts to "can ruin gloves".

[MFauli]

I agree that %1,000,000 smash was a poor move name. I seriously doubt that that signified anything more than his resolve. After all, All Might isn't actually throwing around American states with each dramatic punch.

It wasn't satisfying; I get that, because most other fights in MHA so far have had more thought put into them. For a one episode fight, I'll take it and assume this won't be the norm because it hasn't been the norm. A sub-par encounter: MHA is in good company. Naruto had years of filler. One Piece has less material to work with each episode than a single manga chapter. Bleach was Bleach. Hunter even had some boring episodes and overwrought concepts. I'm not worried about MHA in the least. Any disappointment is a direct result of expectations which have been risen by a great series!

That said, if this is enough to 'break' the show for you, there's not much that can help that. There's plenty of great animu out there to try.

I take deep offense from you comparing shitty bnha to hxh. The only 'boring' episodes were those who focused on explaining concepts, and even that was only 'bad' because we had to wait a whole week for the next episode.

Bnha is, currently, really bad. And unlike Naruto filler, this is supposed to be the real deal. That's bad.

I know that people like you are incapable of accepting such criticism, so I won't write any more of it. But I'll say this: If this season ends without the villains accomplishing something truly evil, I'll drop the anime. And no, kidnapping Bakugo or killing Allmight Wouldn't count. Because those are expected and lame.

[shinta|hikari]

Something like ending the career of Iida's brother?

[MFauli]

Something like ending the career of Iida's brother?

"Boohoo, I made you lose your job! Buahahaha!"

[neflight86]

I take deep offense from you comparing shitty bnha to hxh.

I meant no offense, and I do actually think that HxH is the better show, but not by as much as you do.


I know that people like you are incapable of accepting such criticism, so I won't write any more of it.

I think you're selling people like me short. I even admitted that episode 4 wasn't very satisfying. I would encourage you to drop this sooner than then end of this season though, because I can tell you this is a show with a fairly positive outlook/worldview and the villainous victory you hope for, if it does occur, won't be on the level that I assume you are looking for.

[shinta|hikari]

If losing your life's work/goal isn't enough, then I guess a looot of deaths are in order to satisfy Mfauli, which basically means he should look elsewhere.

[DarthEnderX]

"Boohoo, I made you lose your job! Buahahaha!"His career is over because he was cripplingly injured, not because he was fired.

I swear you seem to hate all these shows because you can't stand fun and you don't fucking pay attention.

[MFauli]

Guys (and girls?), a side-side-character is the only accomplishment of those villains' villainous actions in 3 seasons so far. Excuse me if I'm not convinced of both their 'evilness' and the threat they're supposed to pose towards the world.

A good villain needs to be allowed to set the tone before then the hero(es) stop his ill-doings. One of devil-Piccolo's underlings casuallly off-screen killed Kuririn and it was fucking on! In Naruto, the introduction of everything was so tough and depressing that when team 7 first met Zabuza, you felt as if the main heroes were at risk of getting killed there. And HXH is so unpredictable, you're simply left with permant nervosity, hoping that Gon will succeed.

Bnha is not like these. It has one proclaimed source of danger, but that one source fails to produce results. Think of all the greatest story, anime or otherwise - they usually start out with a victorious, accomplished villain. Which creates motivation to see him fall eventually.

That's where my criticism comes from. And I don't think bnha deserves a throw-away defense like 'then this show isn't for you'. Nah, it's just bad.

[shinta|hikari]

I don't think bnha deserves a throw-away defense like 'then this show isn't for you'. Nah, it's just bad.

I missed you, man.

[Munsu]

Bnha is not like these. It has one proclaimed source of danger, but that one source fails to produce results. Think of all the greatest story, anime or otherwise - they usually start out with a victorious, accomplished villain. Which creates motivation to see him fall eventually.

So, you just want more of the same.

And if you've been paying attention, the main threat villain hasn't even entered the stage yet.


And I don't think bnha deserves a throw-away defense like 'then this show isn't for you'. Nah, it's just bad.

It deserves that defense because the issues you're pointing out has little to do with the show itself, but your misplaced expectations on shows of this nature.

[MFauli]

So, you just want more of the same.

If 'same' is defined as 'excitement', then yes.


And if you've been paying attention, the main threat villain hasn't even entered the stage yet.

How many seasons do we have to wait then for the villains to show how evil and dangerous they are?

[shinta|hikari]

Just watched the latest episode. Utter bullshit. Revolvers don't have that much stopping power. If your entire body is made of metal, you can easily plow through the entire ammo of a revolver and pawn the shooter. And did that metal dude just punch a flesh and blood human into the ground with his metal fist? The villain should be dead then.

And did we really just see a girl with huge hands fan away gas? That is strangely creative yet absurd. For a fog that size, you'd need a chopper or something larger to have an effect. Oversized hand fans will just swirl the contaminated air because the surrounding poison gas will just move into the displaced poison gas. It's not like fresh air was just around the corner...

[Munsu]

Just watched the latest episode. Utter bullshit. Revolvers don't have that much stopping power. If your entire body is made of metal, you can easily plow through the entire ammo of a revolver and pawn the shooter. And did that metal dude just punch a flesh and blood human into the ground with his metal fist? The villain should be dead then.

And did we really just see a girl with huge hands fan away gas? That is strangely creative yet absurd. For a fog that size, you'd need a chopper or something larger to have an effect. Oversized hand fans will just swirl the contaminated air because the surrounding poison gas will just move into the displaced poison gas. It's not like fresh air was just around the corner...

Agreed. But about the bullet vs metal, part of the premise was that he was being weakened partly by fatigue and diminishing strength. Also, I guess it puts into question... how strong is his metal really. And by metal, we mean steel and by extension, how thick is it? Also, remember that the strength of his steel also can depend on what he has ingested or at least how long he can go with it. Also there's been already precedence of his steel weakening after extended use. He had it activated for a bit now, and remember that they should be some exhaustion from the training earlier.

[DarthEnderX]

How many seasons do we have to wait then for the villains to show how evil and dangerous they are?I dunno. How far into One Piece was the Whitebeard War? Like over 10 years? And that was the first time any character on that show was killed that wasn't killed before the start of the series.

[MFauli]

I dunno. How far into One Piece was the Whitebeard War? Like over 10 years? And that was the first time any character on that show was killed that wasn't killed before the start of the series.

That's such bs. We had the first encounter with Mihawk when Sanji was introduced where it felt as if Zorro would die. We had right after that Nami's home island where that fish guy was terrorizing people and killed anyone he'd like to. Crossing the Calm Belt meant to pass dangerous giant sea monsters. And so on. One Piece did a great job to keep things exciting all the time.

Meanwhile, crippling a side-side-character is the one accomplishment of bnha's villains so far.

[shinta|hikari]

@Munsu - I'm mostly talking about the impact of the revolver bullets. One shot was enough to toss metal guy around, when in reality, it shouldn't even toss a normal human around. You could say that the handgun fired magnum bullets, but then the recoil wouldn't make sense. A teen can't really fire those with one hand. But then again, the humans in this series show ridiculous power despite having a quirk completely unrelated to physical prowess (i.e. Erasersensei, Firedaddy)

[Munsu]

@Munsu - I'm mostly talking about the impact of the revolver bullets. One shot was enough to toss metal guy around, when in reality, it shouldn't even toss a normal human around. You could say that the handgun fired magnum bullets, but then the recoil wouldn't make sense. A teen can't really fire those with one hand. But then again, the humans in this series show ridiculous power despite having a quirk completely unrelated to physical prowess (i.e. Erasersensei, Firedaddy)

OK, I see what you mean.

[Buffalobiian]

I totally agree about the revolver and hands.

The chopper comment was spot on. Actually, on that note, modern tech can actually counter superheroes more than they let on here. Tasers should cover most of the population, except for the armoured or the electrically inclined. For everything else, you have Mastercard pepper spray.

[DarthEnderX]

That's such bs. We had the first encounter with Mihawk when Sanji was introduced where it felt as if Zorro would die. We had right after that Nami's home island where that fish guy was terrorizing people and killed anyone he'd like to. Crossing the Calm Belt meant to pass dangerous giant sea monsters.And no named character dies during ANY of that shit.

Motherfucker holds a small NUKE in his hands as it goes off and turns up totally fine. So don't try to pretend OP has stakes that HA doesn't you hypocrite.

[MFauli]

And no named character dies during ANY of that shit.

Motherfucker holds a small NUKE in his hands as it goes off and turns up totally fine. So don't try to pretend OP has stake that HA doesn't you hypocrite.

It's not necessarily about dying, I mentioned that. But nothing in bnha ever felt like something bad was happening.

[Buffalobiian]

Episode 44

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Fuck yeah. THIS is a fight worth watching. Baiting Tokoyami into the evil guy, calming him down, and the human bullet thing were all plausible outcomes. This was a much better episode than trying to brawl with an arm, doing "what's broken can't be broken again".

[DarthEnderX]

Poor Deku's got himself a yandere...

WHAT IS SHE GONNA DO WITH URARAKA'S BLOOD?!

[NeoCybercoin]

Shapeshifting, cloning, remote control? Who knows. Remote control would actually be quite terrifying.

[MFauli]

WHY did the magician release Falco from the little ball?

God, these villains are pre-schooler levels of evil.

[neflight86]

WHY did the magician release Falco from the little ball?

Because he's a showman. The same reason he prepared the decoy balls. Slight of hand is thematic for what he's trying to do, as is "revealing the trick" to the 'audience' (the students he bested). These guys are 'vanguard action squad' in name only, because they clearly have not been through any tactical or group training.

[DarthEnderX]

WHY did the magician release Falco from the little ball?Because Dabi told him to, because he wanted to know which one they still had in their possession.

Besides, you act like if they'd have left him like that, he'd have just been trapped in the ball forever. I'm betting it wears off after awhile or if the Magician gets too far. So it didn't really matter if he let him out or not once they lost control of the ball.

[MFauli]

Because Dabi told him to, because he wanted to know which one they still had in their possession.

Besides, you act like if they'd have left him like that, he'd have just been trapped in the ball forever. I'm betting it wears off after awhile or if the Magician gets too far. So it didn't really matter if he let him out or not once they lost control of the ball.

Well, they could have, like, killed him. But what do I know, I'M not a villain. 🤔

[DarthEnderX]

Well, they could have, like, killed him.How? He was already in the heroes possession at that point.

[DarthEnderX]

Nobody's got anything to say about the last several episodes?

[David75]

Well, heroes die. So MFauli has nothing to rant about anymore and others lost their feel good shonen...

[NeoCybercoin]

I am mostly looking forward to the next few episodes.

[neflight86]

8-9

Lets see, we got an explanation for the 1Mil% smash, foreshadowing the hero's plan, and a thoughtful reflection on the feasibility of the shounen desire to 'save your friend' when there are actually trained professionals for that (even if you're training to become one of those professionals).

I like the sleazy media looking for a story beyond serving the public confidence in heroes. Parallels could be drawn to other law enforcement, and their portrayal being positioned in pop culture by the news media, which is itself a business with a fiduciary duty to get viewership, not serve a public good.

I liked the decoy operation of using the conference to suggest they were nowhere near an actionable plan when in reality the pizza was already en route. Best Jeanest's no-nonsense approach makes him suited to his rank, and even his words to Bakugo, some as filler I believe, were well woven into the pre-rescue scene.

Shigaraki keeping his cool shows some growth on his side. I enjoy when major antagonists also have development and growth alongside the protagonists.

I get the need for levity, but I wish the dress up segment had been a bit more muted and short. Maybe it felt different the manga panels, but the screen time dedicated to the humor of it actually felt like the kids weren't taking the rescue seriously, or forgot what they were doing for a moment.

[DarthEnderX]

This Sasuke retrieval arc really took a left turn.

[NeoCybercoin]

New ep is out.

Damn All for One is OP.

[David75]

And no one's dead it seems.

[neflight86]

I likes two things specifically:

1) They used Kirishima's friendship with Bakugo in a good way to tie their plan together.

2) The narrated plan was the happening plan. Its easy for a narrated plan that immediately goes 'off the rails' to feel like a waste of time since the viewers had to sit through the explanation of it anyway, so here I was expecting the "real thing" to deviate, but what we saw is what we got.

[DarthEnderX]

1) They used Kirishima's friendship with Bakugo in a good way to tie their plan together.I LOVED that. Deku is smart enough to know that Bakugo is too proud to accept help from him.


And no one's dead it seems.I mean, he's probably not, but Jeanist COULD be.

[NeoCybercoin]

New ep.

United States of Smash!

[Buffalobiian]

That was pretty fucking GAR.

Endeavour looks so much like Bakugo.

[shinta|hikari]

One for All reminds me of Argonaut from Danmachi. Plotsword.

That said, it was a fun watch.

Until the part where I saw All for One getting arrested... Like wtf? How isn't he dead? And why did they bother arresting a mass murderer? Even Bin Laden got a shot on sight status...

[neflight86]

If I recall, Moonfish (tooth-guy) was a death row inmate the league recruited/freed, so I guess due process for all?

[DarthEnderX]

That was some episode alright!

I really wish All Might had punched up instead of down, and sent All For One into orbit. You KNOW he's not gonna stay imprisoned.

I'm curious if there's any limit at all to how many powers AFO can have.


Even Bin Laden got a shot on sight status...By America. If it was Japan they probably wouldn't have.

[neflight86]

So, if All Might and All for One fought before, when neither were injured, how did they keep that crater under wraps? Just have the media report on it as a meteor strike?

I liked the other heroes making it to help, and Endeavour full-cowling his No.2 complex to inspire All Might. Too bad Aizawa couldn't pull himself away from the TV... unless AFO had a quirk that could negate his power too. This could also be a case of 'anime time' where this all took place in a few minutes. Exciting developments ahead!

[NeoCybercoin]

Eraser Head would have been useless. He can negate ONE power. All for One has countless of em.

[DarthEnderX]

Eraser Head would have been useless. He can negate ONE power.Based on what?

I don't remember any characters with more than one power that he went up against that he wasn't able to fully suppress.

[neflight86]

I think during the USJ, when he was fighting the goons before Nomu, they mentioned that his little slit goggles were annoying because they couldn't tell who he was looking at. Maybe that implied it was one person at a time?

[MFauli]

Do we know how prisons are built like in this world? Do they have something like the water stones from One Piece that negates one's power?

Otherwise ... good luck keeping AfO locked up.

[DarthEnderX]

I think during the USJ, when he was fighting the goons before Nomu, they mentioned that his little slit goggles were annoying because they couldn't tell who he was looking at. Maybe that implied it was one person at a time?I understood it to be the people in his field of vision.


Do we know how prisons are built like in this world? Do they have something like the water stones from One Piece that negates one's power?

Otherwise ... good luck keeping AfO locked up.Seriously. Without some kinda power supressors, how would you ever be able to keep that guy imprisoned.

[shinta|hikari]

By lopping off everything else except his very vital organs. That's a fitting incarceration state for such a person.

[MFauli]

I fucking hate how Midoriya's mom keeps being treated. One day she'll die from anxiety and a heart attack, if not from loneliness.

Makes me angry how nobody gives a damn about her. Can we please gave a side-arc where she finds a new caring husband? Ffs, just couple her up with one of the UA teachers. Whenever I see how anxious and sad she is, all by herself,I want her to find happiness again :(

[Buffalobiian]

That was a heavy wind-down episode. Izuku's resolve to be a hero regardless of whether it's at UA in particular caught me right off guard. He actually realises that he can no longer follow the Symbol of Peace, but must become it. Overall it turned out to be even more satisfying than the defeat of All For One.

[DarthEnderX]

I'm really curious what AFO's game is here. Because he REALLY doesn't seem like the "Passing the torch" type. So I'm curious what his plans for Tomura ACTUALLY are.

Is he pulling an Orochimaru where he'll build Tomura up as his successor, only to try and take his body for himself later?

[neflight86]

Now we know where Bakugo gets it from...

[DarthEnderX]

51

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SO MUCH FUN!

Why you gotta bring down the mood Froppy.

[NeoCybercoin]

The moment where Bakugo shows more development that any other char.
They would have gotten expelled because of him. Kirishima almost went broke because of him.
Dude turns the mood around through someone else and literally pays him back.

[neflight86]

Jolly character episode we haven't gotten since name picking in season 2. Mineta's 'panty wafting' face should be a meme.

[DarthEnderX]

I was hoping there'd be a shot at the end showing Bakugo's room and he also had like a giant All Might poster.

It's also going to bother me not knowing what Mineta and Tsu's rooms look like...

[Buffalobiian]

Nah we totally know what Mineta's room looks like.

[shinta|hikari]

It's totally normal in terms of looks.

The smell tho...

[DarthEnderX]

And don't go in there with a blacklight...

[Buffalobiian]

Episode 52

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Focusing on legs feels a little forced.

If the idea is that he's permanently screwed up his hands and we expect them to never take on 100% One For All ever, then this makes sense, but it makes him into a crippled version of All Might.

If the idea is that his arms are healing currently and he just needs to make something up to get him through the Provisional Examinations, then this leg focus would just be temporary and it doesn't relate to his true strength or killer move.

If the idea is that his legs are stronger than his arms inherently and thus more compatible with One For All, this means Midoriya has given up on making his body 100% tolerant of One For All, which is a shame.

If using his legs is just to balance the load of One For All over his entire body, then it's a mixture of both (giving up on having 100% tolerance) and (temporary - since he'll go back to using arms again when legs take the toll).

If he thinks kicking suits him better because of stuff, then good on him. There's never been any foreshadowing to show him finding punching awkward, or preferring playing soccer etc though.

If mixing up kicking and punching is good simply because of diversity, then it also makes sense - but then to call it Shoot Style (as in he's shooting a soccer ball) is weird when it's only half the story.

If Midoriya thinks he has it hard figuring out a special move, he should consult Hagakure.

[shinta|hikari]

Shooting a basketball uses hands.

[neflight86]

Using his legs (also) gives him more options, which is always good for someone as considered as Midoria.

Since he began full cowling, it seems he has used/trained his legs much more than his arms (wall jumping and mobility has had more practice than his 4-5 OFA punches since Stain). It seems more natural to him, if I had to choose.

[DarthEnderX]

I'm not really sure how the dorm system is supposed to solve their problem.

None of the attacks happened to the students at home. One was at the school, the other, during a field trip.

[NeoCybercoin]

They targeted Bakugo. And who knows what else might happen when students are in their own home? Easy pickings right? Put em all together under supervision and it gets harder for em to get away with it. Then again...putting em all together like fish in a barrel might not be the best idea.

[DarthEnderX]

They targeted Bakugo. And who knows what else might happen when students are in their own home? Easy pickings right?If taking out individual students was the goal, they'd have been doing that from the start. The real goal is to make UA look weak and cause the public to lose faith in them. Which they do by attacking the students when they're together and with teachers. Which the dorm wouldn't help with.

[shinta|hikari]

That's the villain's goal. The main goal of UA is to keep the students safe, which the dorm achieves (vs just leaving them in normal houses). Also, if the villains suddenly change their mind and started grabbing UA kids from home, UA's reputation will be even more screwed.

[Buffalobiian]

Shooting a basketball uses hands.

That's not going to get you very far in combat.


Using his legs (also) gives him more options, which is always good for someone as considered as Midoria.

Since he began full cowling, it seems he has used/trained his legs much more than his arms (wall jumping and mobility has had more practice than his 4-5 OFA punches since Stain). It seems more natural to him, if I had to choose.

From a practicality point of view, kicking is generally less natural because it severely compromises your balance and mobility options in exchange for power/range.

I have nothing against Midoriya using his legs. It's the way that it's delivered as if it'll solve all of his problems. The show has never meaningfully discussed how Midoriya can overcome his physical frailty. If he needs to use the quirk a lot to get used to it.

Put it this way: Why couldn't he have just punched that rock?

@DEX:

The mouse explained their secondary goal: they're looking for a mole amongst the students.

[shinta|hikari]

Was it ever explained why All Might puffs up like he did but Midoriya doesn't?

[Buffalobiian]

Was it ever explained why All Might puffs up like he did but Midoriya doesn't?

All Might never explained why he puffs up. One can guess that he does it to fulfil his status as the Symbol of Peace.

He does the form so consistently that we've never been shown him using All For One in tiny form.

[shinta|hikari]

But it has to be related to One for All, right? He was quirkless before inheriting that power, after all. Then that should mean Midoriya should also be able to puff up. Why was this never touched upon despite the fact its the most glaring difference between them?

Is the puffing his version of full cowling? Is it because Midoriya is only using a tiny fraction of the power, rendering him unpuffed? But even when he used full power to punch before, his arms didn't puff up, even though All Might clearly puffed the arm he used to hit All for One with, strongly suggesting his unpuffed self/limbs don't contain that power.

Also, All Might's unpuffed self looks so much weaker than Midoriya. How is such a frail body even able to use 100% of that power? His appearance contradicts everything about how Midoriya is training to use One for All.

Did the female One for All also puff up? That'd be something to see.

[Buffalobiian]

But even when he used full power to punch before, his arms didn't puff up, even though All Might clearly puffed the arm he used to hit All for One with, strongly suggesting his unpuffed self/limbs don't contain that power.

That's a good point actually. I questioned this before. If his arm wasn't puffed, was it even 100%?

[neflight86]

Gran Torino discussed it with Midoria in Season 2. All Might didn't use 100% OFA most of the time, because at this level of power, no one's body could handle it constantly.

Since he can still do muscle form a bit after having lost the quirk, I deduce it was trained or created separate from the One for All itself, as it can exist separately. I do expect it was his version of full cowling, as Gran Torino also explained that Toshinori was a 'natural' at using the power.

As for shoot style, I figured the implication was to use legs/kicks to reduce the burden of constantly fighting with his arms to avoid exhaustion and, in this case, damage?

[shinta|hikari]

Wait, you mean All Might can puff up even without One for All? I thought he puffed up at the very end by using the final remnants of his One for All.

[neflight86]

It's up to interpretation. He can still go muscle form for short periods, even in these last couple episodes. You can take that as a joke (which it could well be), or as this ability being something he can still muster up without One for All.

[DarthEnderX]

But it has to be related to One for All, right? He was quirkless before inheriting that power, after all. Then that should mean Midoriya should also be able to puff up. Why was this never touched upon despite the fact its the most glaring difference between them?
I was under the impression that, before he was critically injured, All Might's "puffed up" form was just his normal body.

Like, he started out a normal kid, just like Midoriya. Once he received OFA, he had to train his body constantly in order to be able to use it without wrecking his body. And by the time he'd trained enough that his body could use 100% of OFA without damaging itself, he'd just grown to his All Might proportions.

But once he received his critical injury, his health began to fail. He's already stated that he can't eat properly, and I assume he also can't physically train hard anymore either. This has caused his body to atrophy to the point that it's at now. However, he was still able to take his old form temporarily, but it was basically like holding a flexed muscle.

So it's not OFA itself that makes you big. It's the physical training required to fully use OFA that makes you big. Deku can only use, like, 5% of OFAs power without hurting himself atm. So he's only, like, 5% as swole as he needs to be.

[shinta|hikari]

That makes even less sense. If it is unrelated to One for All, you're basically saying a quirkless person who has atrophied like him can suddenly become buff for short periods "like holding a flexed muscle."

[Buffalobiian]

If using One For All is what Midoriya needs to do to train himself, then he needs to wear a restraining suit that provides resistance training to all ranges of motion. Then he lives/breathes with One For All 24hrs a day to train his body to adapt.

ie just muscle training.

[DarthEnderX]

If it is unrelated to One for All, you're basically saying a quirkless person who has atrophied like him can suddenly become buff for short periods "like holding a flexed muscle."That's exactly what I'm saying. If the show was realistic, I might think that was ridiculous. But it isn't. So I don't.

As it is, I think it's literally just Master Roshi's ability to make himself buff again for a short time even though he normally looks frail and old.

[shinta|hikari]

If this is what counts as believable in this show, everything just gets thrown out the window (if it wasn't out there already). Like, what stops them from just suddenly saying humans can sprout wings if they try hard enough?

It'd really make more sense if it was related to a quirk, which is kinda the main premise of the story. If normal humans can puff up, like wtf?

[shinta|hikari]

Finally got to watching the episode and wanted to comment on this statement.


Focusing on legs feels a little forced.

If the idea is that he's permanently screwed up his hands and we expect them to never take on 100% One For All ever, then this makes sense, but it makes him into a crippled version of All Might.

This is exactly what happened. He damaged his arms too much and making them do any more risks permanent disability, so he is now going to use his legs (with more care to avoid damaging them like his arms). As for him being a crippled version of All Might, I tend to disagree. He can still use his arms, but he wants to avoid doing so because of how damaged they already are.

Also, All Might is a terrible fighter. In all of his fights, he only used his fists to fight, which is a retarded way to do battle (i.e. why MMA is superior to boxing in actual combat). Izuku has always been more flexible and smart (All Might is as dumb as bricks and always has been, as explained by people who know him). Izuku can become an all-rounder, using his punches, kicks, and wiles to defeat the enemy. All Might has always just been about pounding them to death, which severely limited his prowess.

With these things considered, he will probably surpass All Might in overall effectiveness in the future.

Edit: BTW, I searched around for explanations about All Might's muscle form, and it seems even the fanbase is confused about it. The best I could find is it's something separate from One for All and is there for comedic effect and therefore completely unrealistic.

Edit2: To be fair, the reason why I am confident about my interpretation is because I can understand Japanese. After Izuku kicked the rock, he said, "If I'm worried about my arms, I should use my kicks as my main (weapon)." He never intended to stop using his arms but to simply use kicks more because his arms aren't in perfect condition. The horriblesub translation omitted the main part, implying he'd just stop using his arms.

[DarthEnderX]

I like that this episode clarifies that he didn't just decide to start kicking. He'd already altered his suit for kicks and had Iida teach him how to fight with kicks. They just skipped ahead last week for dramatic effect.

[neflight86]

Here comes the UA beatdown! Commander Deku reporting in?

I like that we got to see some of the special moves they've been working on, like Mineta's grape-chain.

[David75]

Finally got to watching the episode and wanted to comment on this statement.



This is exactly what happened. He damaged his arms too much and making them do any more risks permanent disability, so he is now going to use his legs (with more care to avoid damaging them like his arms). As for him being a crippled version of All Might, I tend to disagree. He can still use his arms, but he wants to avoid doing so because of how damaged they already are.

Also, All Might is a terrible fighter. In all of his fights, he only used his fists to fight, which is a retarded way to do battle (i.e. why MMA is superior to boxing in actual combat). Izuku has always been more flexible and smart (All Might is as dumb as bricks and always has been, as explained by people who know him). Izuku can become an all-rounder, using his punches, kicks, and wiles to defeat the enemy. All Might has always just been about pounding them to death, which severely limited his prowess.

With these things considered, he will probably surpass All Might in overall effectiveness in the future.

Edit: BTW, I searched around for explanations about All Might's muscle form, and it seems even the fanbase is confused about it. The best I could find is it's something separate from One for All and is there for comedic effect and therefore completely unrealistic.

Edit2: To be fair, the reason why I am confident about my interpretation is because I can understand Japanese. After Izuku kicked the rock, he said, "If I'm worried about my arms, I should use my kicks as my main (weapon)." He never intended to stop using his arms but to simply use kicks more because his arms aren't in perfect condition. The horriblesub translation omitted the main part, implying he'd just stop using his arms.
As an individual Deku will probably surpass or at least be on par with All Might for all the reasons you exposed.
But there's another quality to Deku: he's an incredible strategist, knows every fine details about the quirks and characters of all his teammates and more. For someone so shy and weak, he's able to lead the people around to victory. And above all else, he does so not by overpowering his teammates, but by having them to willingly participate.

[DarthEnderX]

And above all else, he does so not by overpowering his teammates, but by having them to willingly participate.Unless your Bakugo. Who has to Vegeta his way off on his own.

Or Todoroki, who has to Android 17 his way off on his own.

[David75]

Unless your Bakugo. You has to Vegeta his way off on his own.

Or Todoroki, who has to Android 17 his way off on his own.
They were not that willing to participate... but Deku still managed them before.
As for Bakugo, I think he has an inferiority complex with Deku. I wonder when and what Deku did to impress him that much when he was still quirkless.

[Buffalobiian]

This is exactly what happened. He damaged his arms too much and making them do any more risks permanent disability, so he is now going to use his legs (with more care to avoid damaging them like his arms). As for him being a crippled version of All Might, I tend to disagree. He can still use his arms, but he wants to avoid doing so because of how damaged they already are.

Deku's issue is that he's damaged himself from using One for All, because his body can't handle it.

To discuss this a little more, I'm going to outline how I understand his damage model works:

We've seen 2 damage models for Deku / One for All so far:

1) Safe zone (currently 10% for Deku), and ?100% for All Might.
-within the safe zone, you can punch and do whatever you want without accumulated damage.
-All Might hasn't shown any evidence of accumulated damage being true
-Neither has Deku whenever he operates in his safe zone.
-the "ligamentous damage" explanation is kinda vague and doesn't make sense but I'll leave it.
-they haven't equated this to "osteoarthritis" or other such overuse diseases.

2) Break zone (whenever Deku goes 100%)
-so far, Deku has either been 0%, 10% or 100%
-when he goes 100%, shit breaks and never heals right again.
-That's why his arms are fucked now.
-That's what he's got to stop doing.
-I think that braces reducing damage from further Break Zone attacks wound be unrealistic.
-I think Deku needs to stop doing this shit, and focus on building his body's tolerance.

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I'm going to throw a hypothetical one in now:

3) "Yellow Zone"
-This hasn't been shown yet, but I'm adding it here for illustrative purposes.
-Let's say there isn't a single fatigue point, and that past Safe Zone, there is an area where damage slowly accumulates with repeated use.
-This is the Yellow Zone that Deku hasn't been shown to use.
-It is in such a zone where his braces and kicks are useful from a damage-mitigation perspective, if
-----a) damage accumulated here can heal 100%, thus making load-sharing a good idea, or
-----b) impact to limbs in the Yellow Zone is small enough that braces can actually absorb them - effective extending Deku's safe output level when he wears his suit.

Now let's talk about how Deku is addressing his issue:

In the latest episode, he's told us that he'll use his legs to position better, use cleats to increase attack effectiveness etc,
He's maximising his damage for a given output, which is just smart fighting. Good on him, but that doesn't solve his core problem unless he intends to keep using the "Yellow Zone", has never been proven to exist.

Deku's injuries stem from one core issue: He keeps using 100% All for One and hurts himself.
His being different by kicking and modifying his suit doesn't address this at all.
-If he sticks to his 10%, he won't need braces at all.
-If he intends to go into Yellow Zones with this without hitting the Break point, they did a poor job of explaining it. (By poor, I mean they didn't explain this at all).
-In the end, Deku needs to work on
1) Not using 100%, and
2) Increasing his limit.

Now, why do I feel badly about kicking being introduced as a solution?

Fighting with his legs neither addresses 1) nor 2), which has been my biggest beef. We're not getting any answers on how Deku will actually get better.

What he's done is given himself some armour, some claws, and learned how to kick on point. It'll make him a bit stronger and help him pass this provisional exam, but that's not how he'll be the next All Might.

[shinta|hikari]

I don't think Izuku sees this foot thing as the solution to all his problems. He still has to work on strengthening his body and mastering All for One in order to reach All Might's level. However, he also needs a more immediate power-up without risking his future, which is why he moved on to kicks.

If he was put into a situation where he needed to use 100% again, using and breaking his feet is an option because those haven't been mutilated as much as his hands. Also, any form of strenuous use of limbs, much more for injured ones, will deal accumulative damage. It doesn't have to be caused by going past his current limit.


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[DarthEnderX]

Fighting with his legs neither addresses 1) nor 2), which has been my biggest beef. We're not getting any answers on how Deku will actually get better. He'll get better just by training. The more he trains his body, the higher the % Full Cowling will be able to utilize, and the higher the % of his power he'll be able to use without hurting himself.

Eventually, he'll surpass All Might, because that's how OFA works. You add your own power to the power of all previous OFA users. So he'll eventually have all of All Might's power, plus whatever he himself brings to the table.

[Buffalobiian]

.. he still needs to train

So where's the full body resistance suit man?
That's his ticket to getting to All Might's level the quickest, and replacing him is the only goal that really matters since he's out of action forever.

As for training his feet, sure it's a good idea in general. He doesn't need to learn moves in order to break a leg when shit hits the fan though. He didn't know how to punch and he's already destroyed both enemies and his arms plenty.

As for him being able to surpass All Might by default and adding his own power to the mix, that may not necessarily be true. He's not guaranteed to have his body adjust to to being able to handle 100% output. This is both in terms of during his lifespan, as well as in terms of reaching proficiency before hazards cripple him.

That's why his primary goal should be changing his body. They even mentioned that partway through, where they need to build on quirk strengthening. We're moving back to techniques now because they're flashy and visible. Izuku strength-training his way through the next three years in order to 100% Full Cowl makes a shit anime, even if that makes the most physical sense.

This is the same reason martial arts school probably teach techniques a lot earlier these days than in the past, where it was focused way more on conditioning and lower body strength to begin with. You don't keep students with boring shit that way, unless they were really dedicated to get good in the long term.

[shinta|hikari]

It's not just for flash. Izuku needs effective techniques now, not whenever he manages to master One for All 100%. The enemies are already moving and have attacked them several times. He needs a way to fend for himself immediately, even if that means delaying his final goal a little.


So where's the full body resistance suit man?
That's his ticket to getting to All Might's level the quickest, and replacing him is the only goal that really matters since he's out of action forever.

As for training his feet, sure it's a good idea in general. He doesn't need to learn moves in order to break a leg when shit hits the fan though. He didn't know how to punch and he's already destroyed both enemies and his arms plenty.

As for him being able to surpass All Might by default and adding his own power to the mix, that may not necessarily be true. He's not guaranteed to have his body adjust to to being able to handle 100% output. This is both in terms of during his lifespan, as well as in terms of reaching proficiency before hazards cripple him.

That's why his primary goal should be changing his body. They even mentioned that partway through, where they need to build on quirk strengthening. We're moving back to techniques now because they're flashy and visible. Izuku strength-training his way through the next three years in order to 100% Full Cowl makes a shit anime, even if that makes the most physical sense.

This is the same reason martial arts school probably teach techniques a lot earlier these days than in the past, where it was focused way more on conditioning and lower body strength to begin with. You don't keep students with boring shit that way, unless they were really dedicated to get good in the long term.

[DarthEnderX]

As for him being able to surpass All Might by default and adding his own power to the mix, that may not necessarily be true. He's not guaranteed to have his body adjust to to being able to handle 100% output.Except it's a shounen series, so it is guaranteed.

[Buffalobiian]

Except it's a shounen series, so it is guaranteed.

Sure, from the outsider's perspective it is. From his perspective there's no guarantee, and his actions should reflect as such.

This episode they've cleared up his intentions. It seems that he will just let his body get used to his quirk rather than train specifically to achieve this more quickly. His choice then. Interestingly for him to place a pile driver into his shoes.

I applaud his resolve to not use 100% One For All ever again until he's ready. Thank fuck.

[neflight86]

...until he has to, anyway.

[shinta|hikari]

Dumb as bricks episode.

How can a person whose quirk is to transform even keep up with Izuku in full cowling? How could she even push him down? He breaks huge rocks and creates aerial shock waves that disperse thrown objects, but somehow, he gets pushed down and pinned by a physically normal human? Instead of pushing her off, he should've just grabbed a part of her body, like her elbow which was in reach of his free arm, and crushed it with his fingers. Then while she is in pain, he should just press his balls onto her sensitive spots and be done with it.

When Izuku realized that Uraraka was fake, why didn't he just smash her face into a wall or something? It's clearly the enemy. Why turn your back to her? He didn't even try to confirm it proactively and just waited for the enemy to reveal herself... WTF. Why did he slap the ball away instead of grabbing the wrist and kicking the shit out of her? Sure he doesn't want to kill people, but hurting them is necessary if they are your enemies. He doesn't even need to injure them seriously.

And why the hell did he explain his reasoning to the already revealed enemy? He just gave up info about Uraraka's new abilities... Geez.

I hate the concept of physical training somehow making up for or competing with quirks. It is ridiculous and denies the very premise of the show.

I swear, people who create shounen manga know nothing about real fighting.

[neflight86]

Not spectacular, but a few levels above masonry, as far as intelligence goes, in my opinion.

It's not impossible to be thrown off balance and held in a locked position by in postures you don't normally use, like how police restrain people by placing arms behind their backs; its more difficult to muster strength from that position, and the natural range of motion is limited.

If he grabbed her, what if her quirk was capable of altering what she physically touched (or touched her)? It seems reasonable to distance yourself from someone who's power you don't fully understand. Deku's had disintegrating fingers on his neck at the end of season 2. There are plenty of theoretical quirks that could punish trying to actively restraining a person first hand. That, combined with a snap decision doesn't make his swat seem silly at all.

Midoria realizing she was fake seemed not-dumb as well. First, all he had to go on was her behavior in a time of crisis; but her features looked the same. He may not have pieced her inconsistencies together until just before he slapped the ball out of her hand. Weather he had realized or not, he said she could have sustained a serious injury falling from that height if he hadn't caught her. His character meant he was going to save her either way. Grabbing and pummeling somebody on a hunch are a bit extreme for a reasoned character, I would argue.


Sure he doesn't want to kill people, but hurting them is necessary if they are your enemies.

I don't buy this for a student taking a license exam. Even a pro would not likely resort to violence off the bat, even if it would put their safety at risk. This is the advantage villains have; their rules of engagement suit their purposes because they are designed to. Pro heroes aren't allowed to use their quirks to harm people without licenses and guidelines for the "good" of society. Yes, they are adversaries, but I don't expect students here who greatly (unnecessarily) injure other students before tagging them to get a license, but that's just my take.

His reasoning was surely to clue the audience in, if we hadn't caught on, and also because the fake hadn't abandoned the form yet; she could still actually be Uraraka under the influence of a quirk or something. He gave her an opportunity to explain herself, if you wanted to be generous (and I obviously do).

Physical training versus quirks? In season two, they established that quirks were, being an extension of their bodies, able to be trained and strengthened. I've come to accept a certain level of base-line human ability being increased in addition to peoples' quirks or many more people would be dead (Aizawa, All Might, Deku or anyone else who's body has been made to break concrete from an impact). Stain's physical speed and skill overcame many quirks, his own being rather lackluster. Last I recalled, the premise of the show is that the desire to help people and the strength to do it are what makes a hero. I don't see what has been undermined here.

If shounen authors wanted to mirror real fighting, everyone fighting would carry firearms and drop drone bombs on each other, because one on one combat is inefficient in the first place. Certain concessions on 'reality' simply have to be made when narrative fighting itself wants to be lent to spectacle.

[shinta|hikari]

Here's the thing. I've always been complaining about this from the start, not just now. The lack of realism is the greatest flaw of this show.

First of all, why does Izuku ever turn off his full cowling? Was there ever a drawback established from keeping it on?

About violence, did you not listen to the part about how the vibration dude just shattered earth to separate the UA students and everyone reacted to it saying "people might have gotten seriously injured?"

About not grabbing and kicking... Is it a better option to just slap a hand away and discuss confidential info vs grabbing and kicking and see what happens? Really..?

I also think Stain's abilities were bullshit. That's the point. The entire concept of people whose quirks don't strengthen their bodies competing with people whose quirks strenghten their bodies is nonsensical, and I've always been against that,

[neflight86]

Then that's the thing. I didn't realize how long you've had a problem with these happenings, so forgive me for not taking your complaints in the context of the latest irritation in a long line of irritations.

I figure Midoria turns full cowling off for the same reason we don't walk around with training weights on all the time. The constant strain could damage muscles, and be a detriment to his efforts to gradually increase what he can handle.

Vibration dude did use a potentially dangerous move that did not appear to have much margin for control. Someone getting hurt in that seems like it would reflect different on the perpetrator than someone turning on their strength quirk and point blank wounding or worse a single target, assuming that is what you meant when you said "why didn't he just smash her face into a wall or something?" One could be an accident as there was no single target (though harm was likely intended), while the other looks more premeditated, though I admit that's splitting hairs. I'm not saying that everyone should be above violence. I was challenging your assertion that "but hurting them is necessary if they are your enemies." from the establishment's perspective. the goal is touching a rubber nerf ball to a set of Velcro targets. Yes, if they are injured/crippled it is easier, but is that what the examiners envisioned when they set this test up?


About not grabbing and kicking... Is it a better option to just slap a hand away and discuss confidential info vs grabbing and kicking and see what happens? Really..?

Perhaps not if these were hunters, or ninjas, or pirates, or kids on a playground, but MhA portrays, at least so far, the story of a boy aspiring to become a professional hero who reports to a governing body in a somewhat realistic way. In the context of being judged for a provisional license to essentially use their powers in public to project force on other people if necessary, I don't think it is too silly to show some restraint when granted an opportunity or excuse to attack. The closest IRL approximation I can think of is a concealed carry license. It grants you immense power; but, in theory, you are first trained, tested, and found worthy of brandishing that power before it is signed off on and granted. I think an immediate assault on that girl, especially when she looked like Ururaka, would betray the judgment a pro hero could be expected to have. They are not simply government muscle, but keepers of the peace.

As far as confidential info is concerned, they already stated, and I believe that Deku might have mentioned last episode, that pro heroes could expect to have their quirks known by adversaries in the first place, so I don't put much value in their confidentiality. That doesn't mean there is no value, though, so I concede that it was largely to catch the audience up and, as I suggested, give the fake a chance to explain herself or drop the act.


The entire concept of people whose quirks don't strengthen their bodies competing with people whose quirks strenghten their bodies is nonsensical, and I've always been against that

It is a blurry line. Since the powers themselves have to be somewhat abstracted, I figured it was a given other parts of human physiology would be likewise... flexible. Stain's "training" shouldn't have made him as fast as Deku, who is enhanced, but Todoroki's repeated exposure/contact to sub frozen temperatures and searing heat hasn't eaten away at his nerves, or given him frostbite or something? I'll point again to Nomu slamming Eraserhead's head into the concrete in season 1, making visible cracks and indentation into the floor. That goes beyond mere damage to his eyes, and his quirk isn't "hard face", so him not dying then and there was likely problematic for you, I suppose. I suspect then, that you find other things about this show to be enjoyable if you are still watching it, because those low-key superhuman characteristics are all over MhA, and shounen anime in general, not that you needed me telling you.

Inconsistencies can be found in almost any fiction if you look deep enough. I guess it's up to the author's skill as to how deep you have to dig before they bother you.

[Buffalobiian]

I figure Midoria turns full cowling off for the same reason we don't walk around with training weights on all the time. The constant strain could damage muscles, and be a detriment to his efforts to gradually increase what he can handle.

I don't buy that. This isn't constant resistance against himself, it's just constant strength. Also, neither All Might nor himself has demonstrated damage to himself at loads they could handle. 10% all day is fine from what i can see. He's stuffed up his body from impacts, not constant use of All For One.


his quirk isn't "hard face",

LMFAO. That was good.

As for inconsistencies, I'm pretty pissed off at that as well, and now almost tired of being pissed off at it. At one point the story sounded very believable when Izuku mentions that Quirks have a basis in physiology with physical limitations. Sometimes though, we go back to them being magical powers.

When you think back to it, All For One actually would have had to keep lots of body strengthening quirks and such on hand to deal with the backlashes from other quirks he steals.

[shinta|hikari]

Inconsistencies can be found in almost any fiction if you look deep enough. I guess it's up to the author's skill as to how deep you have to dig before they bother you.

I wasn't even looking. It slapped me in the face continuously.

I'm fine with inconsistencies as long as they don't affect the plot too much. These did. Mystique would've been defeated easily, changing the course of Izuku's predicament. Also, Izuku is supposed to be smart, and it is out of character for him to make all these mistakes. He didn't even have to attack immediately. He should've at least proactively confirmed if that Uraraka was a fake, which he didn't, and opted to turn his back to her.

About non-violence for the exam, did you forget these kids are hurling gigantic metal objects at each other? That'd kill Todoroki instantly if it hit him... Inflicting direct and controlled violence is far less of a risk than that.

You see, I'm not even complaining about the ridiculousness of this exam. I mean, the entire Academy concept is absurd, but that's part of the story's central conceit. However, when the central conceit itself is contradicted by the events in the story, it's hard to turn a blind eye.

If humans can become as tough and strong as hard face (yes, I did complain about that too), why did Izuku despair at having no quirk at the start of the story? He could've just trained hard and become a quirkless hero that can keep up with full cowling and use hard face. He could've also just trained to use Muscle Form, since that apparently isn't a quirk...

I really like the parts of this story when the hype music is playing. It even gives me goosebumps. That's what keeps me watching, but that's like, 5% of the entire playtime. I gotta watch the rest of it to get to those.


He's stuffed up his body from impacts, not constant use of All For One.

Your evil is showing,

[Buffalobiian]

He could've just trained hard and become a quirkless hero that can keep up with full cowling and use hard face.

*cough*RockLee*cough*

[David75]

Deku has been depicted when anyone comes close. I'm wondering if in time one of the benefits of activating full cowling 100% of the time will be that he can sense people close to him (range to be defined)
After all his energy leaps out of his body, so if he can get any feedback from that energy bouncing around...

[DarthEnderX]

Instead of pushing her off, he should've just grabbed a part of her body, like her elbow which was in reach of his free arm, and crushed it with his fingers.Considering these are other heroes, he's PROBABLY not willing to do that.

He's not even willing to let a rival hero hurt their back in a fall, he's not likely to be okay with breaking their arm.


First of all, why does Izuku ever turn off his full cowling? Was there ever a drawback established from keeping it on?They specifically stated during the sports festival that quirks tire you out as you use them.

[shinta|hikari]

So he turns it off in the middle of battle while the enemy vanished from view..? That's the worst time he could be turning his power off. Also, using your body tires you out as you use it too. That's not something special to quirks, but you still use your body when you need to.

Don't they have healer heroes on standby at such a dangerous event? A broken arm is nothing if they can heal Izuku's mangled limbs multiple times.

Alternatively, he could just grab her wrist, then push off the ground using his super strength on his legs and core muscles, and pin her down instead. Pin moves only work if the opponent is a normal human with the same specs. Heck, I bet I can't even pin down Dwayne Johnson with such a move, much less a superman like Izuku. In fact, he could've probably just freed his held arm normally by putting some energy in it.

Oh I failed to mention how Izuku went on chatting with a girl on his back without turning on his power for some inexplicable reason.

EDIT:

Also, why did Shoto become so weak? Wasn't his only weakness the fact that he refused to use his fire power to negate the self-freezing effect of using his ice? Why is he suddenly afraid of running out of gas now that he can just freely alternate between the two powers?

[Munsu]

Well...

https://i.imgur.com/pEsFYFr.jpg

[shinta|hikari]

So true...

[DarthEnderX]

Again though, what shounen protagonist isn't these days.

Fucking Asta has like 3 girls with crushes on him and he is...THE WORST.

[shinta|hikari]

Who is Asta?