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    She took the message to heart because the failed person still bested her. That's proof enough to her that she's gotten weak and complacent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    She took the message to heart because the failed person still bested her. That's proof enough to her that she's gotten weak and complacent.
    Further more, he was a cautionary tale.... high ranking dude. That she 'hates' him simply becaue he became some sort of failure, also means that she could just as easily be discarded. I don't see that as a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsu View Post
    Further more, he was a cautionary tale.... high ranking dude. That she 'hates' him simply becaue he became some sort of failure, also means that she could just as easily be discarded. I don't see that as a problem.
    Sure, if it was a failed person she obviously didn't hate and had reason to assume would be on her side. But she hates him and he was threatening her with a weapon. There's no way that he would be feeding her bullshit under those circumstances, right? Not that he would have said anything all that should have been new to her. It was like the usual "what you are playing at here and taking it easy?" speech. Despite the fact she was instrumental in saving a train, a noble, a bunch of bunshi, a foreign specialist, and finally some commoners. What had that dude achieved to be so high and mighty? He had lost an eye and a leg and apparently his position as well. That man knew nothing and achieved nothing since he was among the fleeing survivors of that overrun town. Didn't see him working hard to get to the crane, you know. All that was coming out of his mouth was the whining of a loser, and Mumei was stupid to lend an ear. She was doing perfectly fine before, not so much anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Sure, if it was a failed person she obviously didn't hate and had reason to assume would be on her side. But she hates him and he was threatening her with a weapon. There's no way that he would be feeding her bullshit under those circumstances, right? Not that he would have said anything all that should have been new to her. It was like the usual "what you are playing at here and taking it easy?" speech. Despite the fact she was instrumental in saving a train, a noble, a bunch of bunshi, a foreign specialist, and finally some commoners. What had that dude achieved to be so high and mighty? He had lost an eye and a leg and apparently his position as well. That man knew nothing and achieved nothing since he was among the fleeing survivors of that overrun town. Didn't see him working hard to get to the crane, you know. All that was coming out of his mouth was the whining of a loser, and Mumei was stupid to lend an ear. She was doing perfectly fine before, not so much anymore.

    Well as I mentioned before, my problem with the situation was specific to her suddenly feeling distracted and seemingly weak, not up to the task; off mission. I have no problem with her taking to heart whatever this dude said, as I said he's a good cautionary tale. My problem was why did she suddenly feel distracted when nothing prior to that seemed to support that idea other than suddenly this guy able to pull a gun on her.

    Maybe she's THAT much of a badass that something like that prior would've been such an impossibility that it "panicked" her, but I think that's a bit far fetched. But it can be rationalized I guess, whether I like it or not.

    Again my problem is not that she listened to someone she hated, particularly if she can envision how easily he could've been her under different circumstances (and she could still be), and then add to that the flashback to that chick getting killed off added to it.

    It's not bullshit what he was feeding her if she has seen the evidence of his claims personally, and there's plenty to suggest so far that lends truth through her experiences. So it isn't really that she was buying his bullshit, more so that he got her back recalling her precarious situation, something she already knows.

    My main problem though is why does she feel unsuitable suddenly? That's my issue with it. Nothing so far shows that she's been distracted or not up to the task she's been handed, so why the sudden feeling of that? There's always been some inkling that she has some sort of master/slave relationship with this "brother" of hers, or at least some level of deep worship for him that could cause her some irrational anxiety (and maybe rational if we take to heart the warnings). So I can see how she could suddenly get a bit disturbed. Thought it went a bit too extreme and too suddenly for my tastes. But again, I have no problem with her taking credence to whatever that dude was feeding her, whether she hated him or not.

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