Naruto Shippuuden Episode 221-222

[Killa-Eyez]

Who?

I think I'll keep calling him Madara to avoid confusion. I was skeptical to use that name because I'm starting to believe he actually isn't Madara. But I meant a combination of the two names he used, Tobi and Madara = Tobira or Madabi. Or maybe even Tobidara or Madarabi.

I dunno about that. Oro DID try and summon the 4th.

Tried and failed. We never got to see what's inside that casket, as LunaticCat said.

I never got the fact that although Oro's hands were sealed, he could perform techniques again after he replaced his body. It's his soul's arms that were sealed. So if he'd transfer to a new body, his soul would magically be restored?

[DarthEnderX]

Tried and failed. We never got to see what's inside that casket, as LunaticCat said.

Only because the 3rd stopped it.

I'd have been surprised if Oro tried to summon the 4th without knowing what was going to happen.

[Artris]

Oro used the resurrection technique to revive the 1st and 2nd. The 3rd tried to kill them with conventional weapons but they proved impervious (they would heal directly after) due to the nature of the technique used to raise them. The third then used the 4th's technique to remove the souls of the 1st and 2nd.

The nature of the technique is to recall the soul of some dead person to that person's body. This means that if you remove the soul it is again just a dead body. The 3rd sealed them because it was the only technique he had which could remove the souls from the bodies AND be used on Oro at the same time. I don't believe being sealed in such a matter makes it impossible to be used in the resurrection technique.

And I definitely agree that Madara is not quite the Madara we thought he was. His response and Kabutoro's play on words with 'calling yourself' seems hint enough. I doubt it is Obito as well: yes, the eyes match and it has never made sense to me that Madara keeps one eye hidden, but we can confirm that Madara is pretty damn old just by looking at the back of his head that one time. Too old to be Obito.

As for Oro's hands I believe I have an explanation for that: when Sasuke devoured him, some part of Sasuke had to actively suppress his will. We saw what happened when Sasuke was tired: he lost control and Oro took over. That make me believe that Oro's soul is not actually in the body but is a part of Oro's inner world (where we saw him confront Sasuke). He simply overpowers the will of the bodies original owner and so no piece of Oro was actually sealed.

[DarthEnderX]

His response and Kabutoro's play on words with 'calling yourself' seems hint enough.

I thought that line was just a reference to how he was calling himself Tobi until recently.

[Jessper]

I thought that line was just a reference to how he was calling himself Tobi until recently.

I agree with this. I think people are looking a bit too much into what was said there. Sure he could mean something crazy like that but there isn't a lot of reason to jump to that conclusion.

[Buffalobiian]

I agree with this. I think people are looking a bit too much into what was said there. Sure he could mean something crazy like that but there isn't a lot of reason to jump to that conclusion.

That's what I thought, but it makes sense if the body was indeed Madara's.

It's hard to think of a body that would startle him more. Realistically speaking, it should be someone that he'd recognise too. For example, if he's never seen the Sage of the Six Paths, then showing him some random body wouldn't phase him.