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    Banned darkshadow's Avatar
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    Lol free, not legal...that's as good as an argument as stealing something and then saying:"No I didn't steal it, I took it for free".......
    It's not a free product even if procured and distributed as such by a non-license holder.

    And as far as my understanding of copyright goes, which is clearly different by country so correct me if I'm wrong, the license holder owns every single thing anyone creates with their IP if no license to do so had been given (parodies aside). This would include the fonts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkshadow View Post
    And as far as my understanding of copyright goes, which is clearly different by country so correct me if I'm wrong, the license holder owns every single thing anyone creates with their IP if no license to do so had been given (parodies aside). This would include the fonts.
    I very much doubt that's correct even for your country. Clearly it's not legal to use someone else's copyrighted work for derivations, but it doesn't grant the original copyright holder a right to your (illegal) works either. You will simply be forbidden to use your unlicensed creations for anything (depending on the local laws, for example considering the parodies you mentioned). However, it's evident that the original copyright holder is in a good position to exploit an illegal creator's work with practical impunity, as a pirate is unlikely to try to sue anybody...

    Take for example doujinshi using existing manga/anime works. They are mostly unlicensed derivations of original works but the Japanese companies have largely ignored them for their own reasons. However, if some media house suddenly decided to enter the porn market, they by no means could just collect all the related doujin by myriad artists and publish volumes under their own name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    I very much doubt that's correct even for your country. Clearly it's not legal to use someone else's copyrighted work for derivations, but it doesn't grant the original copyright holder a right to your (illegal) works either. You will simply be forbidden to use your unlicensed creations for anything (depending on the local laws, for example considering the parodies you mentioned). However, it's evident that the original copyright holder is in a good position to exploit an illegal creator's work with practical impunity, as a pirate is unlikely to try to sue anybody...

    Take for example doujinshi using existing manga/anime works. They are mostly unlicensed derivations of original works but the Japanese companies have largely ignored them for their own reasons. However, if some media house suddenly decided to enter the porn market, they by no means could just collect all the related doujin by myriad artists and publish volumes under their own name.
    A sample of copyright licensing:
    3. Licensee's Rights and Obligations.
    a. Licensee shall be solely responsible for providing all funding and technical expertise for the development and marketing of the Work.

    b. Licensee shall be the sole owner of the Work and all proprietary rights in and to the Work; except, such ownership shall not include ownership of the copyright in and to the Material or any other rights to the Material not specifically granted in Section 1 above.
    If no license is given then 3b. is obviously invalid and thus the non-licensee would only own the work put into it. They don't have a license thus they don't "own" their own product.
    I didn't mean that that IP rightsholder can just seize and use the product for themselves, what I meant is they own all the rights to the contents(aside from previously established copyrights) of said product and thus "own" it. So aside from forbidding it's use, they can also order the product to be destroyed.

    Now about the fonts, it seems the US doesn't recognise fonts as having copyright, other countries do though (like the UK). So the only way HS' could own the font is if the person who made it lives in one of the countries that does copyright fonts.
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