Naruto Shippuuden Episode 159

[Azonalanthious]

maybe im in denial, but i still doubt that this is the last we'll see of kakashi... and i'm pretty dissapointed that he went down so fast, even if it was one of pain's bodies...

I'm with you - I read some of the earlier posts before I watched the episode and went into fully expecting to see his definitive death, but that's not what I saw at all. To me, it came across as far more as a 'critcal condition, near death experience' kinda thing. I'm fairly certain he's down for the fight baring direct Tsunade intervention, but I'll be suprised if he's down for good.

[DarthEnderX]

I'm with you - I read some of the earlier posts before I watched the episode and went into fully expecting to see his definitive death, but that's not what I saw at all. To me, it came across as far more as a 'critcal condition, near death experience' kinda thing. I'm fairly certain he's down for the fight baring direct Tsunade intervention, but I'll be suprised if he's down for good.

I felt that Tsunade's reaction to when she tried to heal Kakashi with the slug was fairly conclusive to me that he had died. If he had only been "near death" she wouldn't have sent it away without doing anything to him.

[Azonalanthious]

I felt that Tsunade's reaction to when she tried to heal Kakashi with the slug was fairly conclusive to me that he had died. If he had only been "near death" she wouldn't have sent it away without doing anything to him.

I see your point, but it came across to me a little different (maybe because I've got both military and medical backgrounds). I never really 'thought' about that point but I just assumed it was triage - Sakura's green/yellow/red stuff. Those injured who will live even without help, those who might survive with help, and those who will probably die even with help. In a battle situation you always devote most of your efforts to the middle category. I figured Tsunade just put in him in the final (probably gonna die) category, which matches up with the critical condition point in my earlier post, rather then it being that he was already dead.

Alternately (and I just thought about this as I was typing this post) - Kakashi is in the condition he is in because he completely and totally exhausted his chakra, right? Do we even know if that can be healed by medical jutsu? Its not an actual 'wound' after all and I don't think we've ever seen any evidence that medical jutsu can transfer chakra or anything similar. And her reaction could very easily be to a critical ninja being taken out of the fight so early, even if he isn't dead.\

Edit: Oh, and Tsunade's in person response came across to me as a very angry "Damnit, I know I could save him if I went, but I've got bigger responsabilities." Given how weepy/sad we've seen her get over the death of those she cares about, I would expect a lot more grief and a lot less anger out of her if he was already dead rather then just critical.

[Buffalobiian]

I see your point, but it came across to me a little different (maybe because I've got both military and medical backgrounds). I never really 'thought' about that point but I just assumed it was triage - Sakura's green/yellow/red stuff. Those injured who will live even without help, those who might survive with help, and those who will probably die even with help. In a battle situation you always devote most of your efforts to the middle category. I figured Tsunade just put in him in the final (probably gonna die) category, which matches up with the critical condition point in my earlier post, rather then it being that he was already dead.

Alternately (and I just thought about this as I was typing this post) - Kakashi is in the condition he is in because he completely and totally exhausted his chakra, right? Do we even know if that can be healed by medical jutsu? Its not an actual 'wound' after all and I don't think we've ever seen any evidence that medical jutsu can transfer chakra or anything similar. And her reaction could very easily be to a critical ninja being taken out of the fight so early, even if he isn't dead.\

Edit: Oh, and Tsunade's in person response came across to me as a very angry "Damnit, I know I could save him if I went, but I've got bigger responsabilities." Given how weepy/sad we've seen her get over the death of those she cares about, I would expect a lot more grief and a lot less anger out of her if he was already dead rather then just critical.

That's good and all, but it doesn't explain why she ignored Chouji's question.