I wouldn't mind seeing a summarized list of things that were included in the bill that have nothing to do with health care.
It's mind boggling to me when they talk about "hiding" things in random bills... I mean, that might have flown in the 1800's when there was no access to information but you'd think in today's age that stuff like that would not be allowed to happen. But it does.
NPR has a good article that summarizes the immediate effects of this bill: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...24999058&ps=rsOriginally Posted by itadakimasu
I love how this is showing me who I can defriend on Facebook. Lots of angry comments, threatening Texas secession, etc.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
It isn't so much that they passed a heath insurance reform bill, it is the way that Nancy Pelosi, Obama, and Harry Reid basically flaunted that one way or another, they are going to ram this 2,700 page behemoth down our throats whether we like it or not.
Just the blatant lack of respect for their constituents disgusts me. Towards the end, there was an undeniable air of, "The majority may no longer want this bill, but too fucking bad, we're doing it anyway so we can call it a 'victory' (and make lots of money on ghostwritten books)."
I think we saw a very ugly side to Obama these last weeks that I am not too happy seeing. He showed a lack of...professionalism for his position. Not using diplomacy but using political bribes, threats, and other rather unsavory political tactics to force just enough votes. There were definite hints in his speeches that shared the same vindictive attitude that Pelosi and Reid have.
Congress' approval rating is hovering around 17% now, and I don't see it raising too much after the sideshow we just witnessed.
It isn't the cause itself that I'm against, it is this specific bill and the manner in which they accomplished it.
I'm also pretty pissed off that they are lying by saying a 1 Trillion Dollar bill (coupled with all the wasted time/cost they've spent the past year on this) will magically reduce the deficit by 1 Trillion Dollars. They don't even have much of a clue how to fund it in the first place, how exactly is it supposed to reduce the deficit?
I've also seen a few interesting calculations where it is now cheaper to pay the fine for not having insurance and only get it when you need it (since you cannot be denied for a preexisting condition). I can't guarantee the accuracy of those though, so it is little more than a fun sidenote.
There are no checks and balances for these types of things. It's bad enough the government tries to regulate everything when they need to be regulated themselves.
Attention U.S. Gotwooters: Your government doesn't give two shits and a fuck about you. The time to revolt is immediately.
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
The thing is, that bill is 2000+ pages long. I don't know anyone who's read it in its entirety, I haven't heard of any politician having read it in it's entirety. I don't know there's any one person that can summarize this bill for for you, and then sift out the complete list of things that don't have anything to do with health care. If someone did read it, I doubt that someone understood more than half of it. I wouldn't put it beyond the writers of that bill to have made it so that you can't even break the bill into sections for different people to be responsible for reading, understanding, and then summarizing the bill.
In the past, it used to be a matter of ease of attaining access to information and people being willing to spend time absorbing the information. This bill was designed to go through regardless of the opinions of the american people, regardless of whether you read or not, regardless of whether you're willing to take the time and effort to hold accountable the politicians who pushed this through, or not. I don't think the writers themselves each know everything that's in that bill.
@Heretic:
If I were you I wouldn't go around posting shit like "revolt nowwwwwwww!!" on anything of which a record can be made and kept. Not asking you to be afraid, just reserved and thoughtful...
Reuters does a pretty good job: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1914020220100319
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
See that kind of thinking is why everyone lives in fear and nothing ever gets done. When's the last time we had a good 'ol fashioned coup d'etat?? IT'S BEEN TOO LONG!!
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote