I loved the fact that she was perpetually moving down the scale in size. Insects, worms, single-celled organisms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
I will miss Yuuki Aoi's quivering rough delinquent voice.
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I loved the fact that she was perpetually moving down the scale in size. Insects, worms, single-celled organisms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
I will miss Yuuki Aoi's quivering rough delinquent voice.
Loved this episode, the death scene was pure awesome.
As for the rebellion, probably more fighting with Albedo, nothing more and nothing less. But we'll see if it substantiates to something more.
I don't know what they're going to do with four remaining episodes, probably setting us up for a disappointment.
But there has to be more to this, there has to.
The novels probably go well beyond where this anime ends. Maybe there will be a second season if this gets popular.
I liked the death hug. It was exactly the kind of torture I had in mind, only a bit rushed due to time constraints. I would've preferred the bitch breaking from fear instead of struggling until the very end.
Episode 10 - HS
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At the moment it seems like Shalltear's creator was the cruelest one (although I'm sure she doesn't think so). She's a fricking lamprey monster (it even seems like her intelligence is lowered in that form, fitting such a primitive creature). Her true form is far more pitiful than her normal disguised one, even if possibly stronger. How many would have really thought that's a pure blood vampire if we had seen that form first? She was more like a monster from an old horror movie from the golden times of the last century.
In another sense this is interesting because for the first time we see someone from Nazarick lose, or at least not win straightforwardly.
It seems healing vampires is the best way to damage them. She really didn't like that red potion when she got that on her. Her greatest weakness would be light/holy based weapons. I'm guessing she's much more vulnerable to that in her true form.
I was honestly confused throughout the whole episode. Couldn't really connect what was occurring with that of Ains' goals or directives he might've had to this point in the series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
So in all, not sure what's really going on.
It looks to me like Ains had them go out on a scouting mission to find new and interesting things about this world that he didn't know about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munsu
He must have sent Shalltear out to find people with genuine martial art skills (skills like perks in an RPG). Apparently Ains doesn't really know melee combat and such so well, so he must study them in order to put them to use or oppose them successfully. I reckon Shalltear is trying to provoke such people to step out of the shadows and then take them to Nazarick for interrogation and examination. To be honest that plan seems quite inefficient, but I'd assume he tries only to learn the very basics this way, without anybody noticing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munsu
Everything about Ains' direct involvement with Narberal was much more effective in learning about the world. The two of them easily learned in a single day what Shalltear did in the same time period of their entire little adventure against the necromancer.
Shalltear seemed to be a very poor choice in sending someone out. He would have had much better luck with Aura or Mare. Even Albedo, crazy as she can be. Shalltear's party was going berserk every encounter, killing everyone she came across.
Killing everyone not useful to Ainz was her way of thinking I guess.
I gathered that much, but there's something about her methods and seemingly her understanding of the orders given that don't quite mesh for me. More than the looking for martial artist, I get the feeling that there are some directives that we haven't been privy to or such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
In any case, it does seem that Shalltear wen't out of control with her bloodlust... since she mentioned quite a few times about the need to capture, not kill. Yet, all she did was massacre everyone that got in front of her. Until she was stopped that is.
Yeah, because seemingly everybody in Nazarick considers humans much lower lifeforms. Add to that the fact Shalltear is a vampire for whom humans are a source of nutrients. She was only planning to spare the single individuals who displayed true martial art techniques. The rest she would eliminate both for her own amusement and to remove any witnesses. They are trying to keep themselves largely unknown to the public. Even that village saved by Ains thinks he's some travelling wizard, not a leader of a whole host of monsters located very near. The town thinks Ains is a totally different person, an adventurer from some distant land. Shaltear here failed miserably. Did she leave the redhead alive? At the very least the stronger bunch she faced last mostly escaped. The end result is that the public might learn there's a really strong vampire monster around. People might start to wonder where she came from. Unlike Ains (or Nabe or Albedo), Shalltear is viewed as an enemy and a monster now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munsu
I'm just pissed this is going to be a 12 episode series... and I have a tough time thinking of a Madhouse series which got a continuation after the initial series run.
Episode 11 - HS
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Things escalated rather fast. First Ains was left-handedly dealing with the pesky adventurer who absolutely had to stick along, then he was retreating in half-panic. For the longest of time it seemed like nothing could theaten Ains or Nazarick, and the people of the land were weak compared even to Ains's underlings, but now it's apparent world class magical items aren't extremely rare. Otherwise it's hard to imagine why one just happened to be so near Shalltear, in possession of some random adventurers. Assuming they were random. At least it didn't look to me like they were especially preparing to slay powerful monsters.
The mausoleum was a very nice idea and place. The vault in general with the display cases full of fancy looking weapons was very fitting for an RPG.
Albedo really loves Ains. I hope he doesn't anymore feel like he did something wrong by altering her personality. Assuming he feels anything much anymore.
It feels like Nazarick is far in the boonies. I guess there are some places on earth you woudn't believe you're in 2015.As for Shalltear and the world item: plan things so that sacrificial adventurers activate that thing.
It seems Ains was right to progress slowly, with care and undercover. It might be his high level is great, but he'll still need to use all of his potential soon.
Shalltear was really the strongest servant? That's disappointing -- given her demeanor and the mystery surrounding some of the other members, I figured that there were others even stronger (including Nabe -- she seemed more powerful). Shalltear was stopped by a mere 7 adventurers, even with a world-class item. She didn't seem like an excellent fighter.
Whilst I didn't expect Shalltear to be the strongest, and I don't even see why she should be considering being a vampire is not all about battle power, far from it, I reckon these world class items are something that could potentially harm even Ains himself. So, it goes without saying they could do the same to Shalltear, no matter how tough she was. I don't think the former NPCs even knew enough to be worried about magical artefacts. At least Albedo didn't show a particularly high level of knowledge when they were visiting the vault.Quote:
Originally Posted by lelouch
Who knows, maybe Shalltear's creator took her to great many battles as an NPC follower and she's simply higher level than the other ones in Nazarick. That could explain why she's stronger than anybody but Ains.
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Originally Posted by Kraco
Given Nabe's ability to instantly teleport and shoot high-level magic from long distances, I don't see how she would have lost against either Shalltear or this group.
We haven't seen Shalltear, or actually anybody from Nazarick, fight against a single difficult enemy. Shalltear now lost due to her ignorance and bad luck. If the necromancer had had a similar world class item, Nabe would beQuote:
Originally Posted by lelouch
deadundead right now. She wasn't exactly dodging attacks or playing it safe in her arrogance. In fact even fricking Ains could have been in deep shit if Clementine had had something like that. In other words, we haven't seen a fraction of what these people are really capable of. It's a bit hasty to judge Nabe so powerful. Clearly the combat maids place themselves below the floor guardians, or at least some of the floor guardians. Hard to say about the likes of the twin elves. They don't honestly seem stronger in battle than Nabe.
Why the hell is Ainz blaming himself for not thinking about world items? Even the author didn't think about that when he first wrote the story lol.
If Shaltear is so powerful that only Ainz can beat her and with player level tactics on top of that, isn't she worth spending 1 world level item to save? They have several world level items after all, but only one loli vampire.
Man, that dusting Igvarge in cold blood... gives a new perspective not seen previously from Ainz. There's been a bit of introspection and talk from Ainz about his willingness to do certain things, but he's never actually gone to the lengths of doing them, so it was hard to take him seriously or simply concluding that he's over-thinking things.
So in that regard, the incongruence I had with the previous episode has been completely diminished, though fact still remains that Shalltear lost control and went against some of Ainz wishes.
Anyways, one episode left... I'm expecting to be left completely unsatisfied and wishing for another season that has slim chances of happening.
Second season has been greenlit. Just kidding.
You're not fucking with me right?Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
LOL, nice use of the font color!
Episode 12 - HS
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Haha, an awesome amount of buffs Ains started the battle preparations with. It would have made an impressive row of icons on the screen. I couldn't help but laugh when he just kept going, casting more and more of them.
A nice fight all in all. I can see why the others were so worried and why Shalltear has their respect battle prowess wise. A difficult opponent, even if the random group of adventurers took her down easily enough with the world class item. It's a good question why they simply left, leaving her there. Were they observing, leaving her there as a trap, or were they in a hurry to leave, licking their wounds?
How seriously was Ains taking this? Or maybe it's a wrong question. He took this very seriously, but at the same time he was like a player who wanted to fight seriously but with some self-set handicaps. The biggest one was obviously going alone, but he also wasn't using any fancy equipment. Was that only to give whoever was observing as little information as possible? Or did he also want to show Shalltear, and the others, just what a supreme being is capable of? For the balance's sake it was positive Shalltear surprised him a couple of times.
I'm looking forward to seeing how this is going to end.
So... now it's 13 episodes instead of 12?
Once episode 12 was finished, I was thinking it would've been preposterous to end it like that. But looks like we're getting an extra episode for now.
Anyways, best part of the episode was when Ainz was buffing up and casting all the preparedness spells. That was just awesome.
Ainz took off his armor for a cheap reason he will reveal in the next episode. It's his key to victory.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Ainz suddenly said, "Now I'm gonna use my mana potion. Full MP. You lose, Shaltear."
With MP Expansion, MP Double Expansion, Giga MP Boost.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
Tripuru Efekuto Gureta- Magiku Poshon!!!
http://i.imgur.com/YSzuO7H.png
In the end though, he's going to use those tags of his. I bet you that for a limited time only, Momonga gets to play as if he was another supreme being altogether.
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They cast the world item control over her, but she killed the caster before it could take full effect. The control didn't dissipate however and she was stuck in auto-defense. All the other allies didn't know she now lacked aggression and attacked her. The died.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
This isn't a trap. It's more like a bug.
Some of them were left alive, the guild told Ains as much. So, they didn't waste their lives entirely. But it indeed does make sense that only the very person who was holding the world class item would be able to issue the command, so it was useless for the others. Whoever survived, also took care of the corpses of their fallen comrades. It seems dubious some outsider would have retrieved the dead bodies when Shalltear was standing right there, with a weapon in hand. Even if this wasn't what the adventurers wanted, it doesn't mean they wouldn't want to know just who the hell Shalltear was and if more monsters will appear looking for her. That would be quite a basic precaution, assuming they were levelheaded enough for it anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
I thought he wasn't using own World Class items because if he were to lose then however was controlling Shaltear would simply have to loot him to get those items.
Between losing an item and his own (un)life, I don't think he would choose the latter (his underlings are another matter entirely, like the scene with the twins demonstrated). If that was the only thing worrying him, he would have taken Albedo and Cocytus with him and made short work of Shalltear in a 3vs1 fight. Shalltear claimed Ains couldn't bring or summon anyone else because Shalltear would leech their HP, but that's bullshit. If she had three opponents, she could still only focus fully on one at a time. That one would simply use their whole strength to avoid any attacks while the other two would be free to concentrate their everything on attacking. The odds aren't linear in an unfair match with limited participants, they vastly favour the ones with superior numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin
We already saw a long time ago a scene where Ains made sure spies didn't see too much. That was when he slaughtered the theocracy troops. He has to consider every aspect of the game, being an Overlord!
Uh, Ains clearly said his true motive during the fight. He just, uhm, wanted to fight.
So what? That's like saying a human wants to eat, sleep, and defecate. Big news. Of course he wants to fight, he's a player. He wouldn't have been a player of that game to begin with if he didn't. He would be playing Sims or some other shit instead. It goes without saying he wants to fight. We were talking about the details here.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
Details which he mentioned didn't matter lol.
So, why does he suddenly have a different gear from normal, to the point Shalltear mentioned it, if it didn't matter? If it didn't matter, he would have gone there in his normal gear, the one we have been seeing all the time, not with lesser or greater. So, it indeed mattered. He would also have taken somebody with him, since he has always moved around with at least one other escorting him. Evidence is irrefutable.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
It is true that his attire was minimalistic compared to when he's in Nazarick.
I guess he feels that's enough to beat Shalltear.
It partly explains Cocytus probabilities, that were a bit low for Ains. 30% is already too much of a gamble for such a small objective, justifiying getting some help if it was his maximum capacities...
But it isn't the case. He's been there with lots of handicaps.
I guess it serves several purposes:
He does not disclose too much about the extent of his capabilities to any spies... Or even his underlings.
He shows everyone he's boss, particularly his underlings...
Actually he's disclosing quite a lot about his personal capabilities since he has nothing else on him in that simple cloak. Except those ice cream sticks, but it's quite possible anybody seeing them wouldn't know what they are looking at. He's not disclosing anything about his origin, his possible associates, or any powerful artefacts he might possess (since it was such an item that took down Shalltear).Quote:
Originally Posted by David75
Shalltear didn't need to hit him for very long or do very much damage and she recovered significantly. The hit Ains received was incidental at best because of the mini-teleport. Her recovery capabilities with that lance are no joke.
I assume it is based on percentage of total HP, because she had to kill quite a lot of her summoned critters to fully recover the second time.
Taking anyone else with him really would have made it much harder to beat her. Especially the strong vassals.
I still don't agree on that. Since it was Ains alone, he needed to keep both attacking and defending at the same time, making him much more vulnerable. If he had competent allies with him, only the one Shalltear was targeting would need to defend and evade, but could do it 100%. So, if Shalltear ever fancied to really push and stick that lance into the target, she would get instantly backstabbed and beheaded by the others if she managed to hit successfully. Insta regen wouldn't do her much good if she had no heart or head.
Ains used remarkably few necromancer spells during the bout, I have to say. Low level necromancer might be ill suited to fight powerful undead since necromancer attacks ought to be negative energy (anti-life) and such which would be meaningless, but a powerful necromancer in fact should be the second best match for undead monsters (after holy champions). I'm almost surprised Ains couldn't simply override Shalltear's condition at least partially and temporarily with some subdue/control spell. There's logically no way a necromancer could become a master necromancer without knowing how to beat the undead. Although I suppose that would have made a poor story.
Oh, and before I forget.. I reckon "False Data: Life" would play a part in this somewhere. It's one of the only spells he cast initially that wasn't a buff/debuff/fly/attack.
WTF
Just found out about this show thanks to the Top 3-topic. Why did nobody alert me?! An anime about a virtual reality game? Always!
Already 3 episodes in, and I like it. Will binge it all today, I guess.
And Albedo is the hottest anime girl in a long time
https://forums.gotwoot.net/showthrea...l=1#post551657Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
I don't like Albedo much, I prefer Nabe by a long mile.
Aaand all caught up. Great anime. And I just read that season 2 is coming. Nice.
As for the fight against Shalltear: I dont quite understand why she´s so strong. In terms of fighting ease, she appears to be superior to Ains here, who has to go all out just to keep up. I always thought that the creators are significantly stronger than their creations. Very weird. In the beginning I thought that Shalltear got a power up by that group with the world item, but the way everything was explained later, that´s not the case.
Anyway, what TRULY sucks is that we have another gay hero. Oh. My. God. The things I would do to Albedo ... and she´d like it!!1 lol
Where did you read that?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
In most RPGs you play, if you drop all the precious gear you have, your high level character would face difficulties facing tough enemies. Ains had nothing on him, except those ice cream sticks he haven't even used yet. If you think about this fight, Shalltear would have died much earlier without that life sucking lance of hers. She also had the badass looking armour. Typically mages fare better if they have a meatwall between themselves and the enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
He's a fricking lich. It has been said multiple times that whenever he starts to feel any strong emotion, it gets wiped off. Not to mention he's all bones (a human dick doesn't even have a bone inside it, unlike some animal members, so he has got nothing down there). He's not gay. He's asexual for a very good reason, unless he somehow decides to change things.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
https://forums.gotwoot.net/showthrea...l=1#post551804Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
I expected this reply. I don´t accept it. He displays a wide array of emotions, and his libido isnt gone completely, since this emotion-cancelling auto-effect keeps happening. Also, if he truly had no guy parts, why would all the girls expect to be impregnated by their lord? I´m pretty sure he either isn´t a 100% skeleton OR he can manipulate his own body at will - we´ve seen as much when he changed his face, although the might have been an optical illusion only.Quote:
He's a fricking lich. It has been said multiple times that whenever he starts to feel any strong emotion, it gets wiped off. Not to mention he's all bones (a human dick doesn't even have a bone inside it, unlike some animal members, so he has got nothing down there). He's not gay. He's asexual for a very good reason, unless he somehow decides to change things.
And even if he´s truly asexual, it still sucks from a watcher´s perspective :>
LMAO, MFauli you got trolled bad. xD
(shinta's not serious)
The very post says he was only joking.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
Strong emotions get inhibited. I reckon long lasting ones as well. It's one of the finer and unique points of this show's setting that the main character is a skeletor. For once, like once in a thousand, we have a very good reason why a harem of bishoujo will be meaningless for the main character. Every person in Nazarick, save the prisoners, is a monster. I don't think they much care for Ains's physical state. Albedo believes magic will somehow solve the problem. In fact I imagine it could, if Ains ever decides to do it. But as it happens, he would have no strong motivation to try because motivation is an emotion. Actually liches ought to have a couple of emotions like a thirst for power and knowledge and a fear of death. They are wizards who wanted to live forever, after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
Maybe I'll start to read the LN once the anime ends to learn more.
Ugh, so ... what are the chances for a real season 2, then? :/
Also Kraco, I dont care about any of that. I just want to have a main character that takes advantage of Albedo :>
Episode 13
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Been waiting all week for this finale, and it did not disappoint. Wonderful ending -- looks highly probably for a Season 2 as well. I can't imagine popularity for this show being too low for a continuation, and things left off perfectly.
Hah, in the end Ains still needed help from the the elf guardian on the border. He's good, but not infallible. I quite like that.
The cash item twist was bullshit. The fight could've worked without all that. When he switched to the bow, he could have sniped Shaltear til her HP dropped to crap then nuked her with Fallen Down (Sora no Otoshimono song!). The axe and shield parts were pointless.
It's also annoying how Shaltear forgot all about her betrayal. I would've loved seeing her in full guilty state.
That said, there should be a 2nd season for this. Every atom of this show is just an excuse for badassery, and that's not a bad thing.
Really good stuff. More entertaining than the other MMO anime I've seen (which is not much, but still). Hope season two becomes a thing.
The blow looked like it had a slow firing rate. I'm not sure that it would have worked Shinta.
They don't mention there being any cash shops in this world. That actually makes those cash items just as rare as Worldly items. There is a revival system however and that still charges gold, so who knows.
I need me a season two. Really want to see Victim and Gargantua now.
Since this new world is more wholesome than the old one, the NPCs gaining sentience being a perfect example of it, Ains might find a way to make certain rare items by himself. On the other hand he might not even need them so much anymore if he's more careful and plans their actions better.
I wouldn't count on this getting a second season. Aside from the textbook shounen running for years, typically only simple ecchi shows get two or more seasons. That's what the anime scene has been reduced to. Of course there are still exceptions, but they tend to have something in common, like catering to a totally different crowd (such as fujoshi). Maybe it's already a miracle we get these 10-13 episodes shows of interesting stories to begin with.
A jolly good series. This will remain one of the best anime this year.
Very much this. It completely wasted an excellent opportunity. It's not like Shalltear really saw anything before she got hit anyway since she was in full berserker bloodlust mode. It would have added a lot more meaning to Ains telling everyone that it wasn't her fault but his own for being cocky.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
Fantastic last episode of the first cour ... and I fully expect a season 2, fuck the world if it doesn´t happen.
Shalltear being oblvious was disappointing, but maybe we´ll get a flashback to Demiurge telling her everything in season 2. Definitely want to see THAT reaction, haha.
Despite some onknown force having been able to kinda endanger a Nazarik member, I still wonder if there´s anyone/-thing in this world that could fight toe to toe with them. We haven´t seen anyone come close so far.
And even if its chances are low, I hope that something is done about Ains´ libido. It´s just not fun when you see hot girls throwing themselves at him and nothing happen. Would really make this show excel significantly over most anime. Having said that, I agree that Overlord has turned out to be the best MMORPG-anime so far. It´s unfortunate that it cannot match SAO´s animation, but other than maybe the first 3-4 episodes of, agian, SAO, Overlord has triumphed over any competition. While Log Horizon was nice, it always had you waiting for unleashing its potential ... and here we are, two seasons later and all we got to witness was preparations.
Lastly, I can´t even state that it´s a great song, but the ending has really grown on me. "Don´t you give me your love and passion!". It´s just such a perfect fit for Albedo´s character and her relation towards Ains.
What this show has mostly shown for me is that magic casters are OP. So I'd really love to see a lv 100 warrior or other melee based player doing similar feats of destruction. It'd be one heck of an unbalanced game if the magic casters were OP.
They're OP when given enough spells to counter situations in the correct way. It takes a lot of brains and planning, so they're not easy to use IMO.
For consistency, other classes may be better. Say if they have a rematch, there's no way Shaltear would lose once she knows Ains' cards. He's always known her's.
It would probably take a level 100 player with a melee character. Shalltear was already quite a strong melee fighter, but in the end I reckon these former NPCs (or the people of the land to borrow the term from another series) are in a certain sense more straight-forward and pure characters than players, especially since the original game didn't even allow to reach level 100 following only a single path. Ains is also a combination of a bunch of magic related classes. I'm not sure of NPCs, not to mention the random humans populating this new world, are such or if Shalltear is simply a pure vampire class 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin
In short, a level 100 melee player would still be a versatile character no matter what.
To those who wish to continue with the LN.
Wow... I just watched this and I'm totally satisfied with just about everything. No, really, why where all the other "gaming turns reality" shows so *bad* compared to this one?
Probably the most fun I've had in a while watching anime.
I liked *all* the characters, they all acted pretty reasonable and while MC is OP as fuck 85%+ of the time, he doesn't end up wasting it. (I can't express enough how much I appreciated that)
Best MC in years. Best show too.
Season 2 when? WHY Japan, WHY Madhouse? Don't do this to me :(
Yo Shinta, did you read V1-3? Anything worth reading from it - side stories, maybe whole arcs that were left out because they didn't really advance the story?
Haven't read any of the LNs, but I do have them saved. They got licensed, so fan translated stuff will soon disappear.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
I have read what's translated of the LNs. It's jolly good stuff, really, even if occasionally morbid. Better written than the other LNs I've read (though they aren't many). The anime was faithful to the source. Bits and pieces were cut, mainly stuff concerning other characters than the Nazarick folks (that is, concerning the original denizens of that world). They were probably cut because they are only really meaningful for later parts of the story. This is the exceedingly ordinary situation when there are no plans whatsoever to continue the anime beyond the initial run, so anything not relevant to it can be cut.
I won't describe it any further to avoid spoilers. I'd suggest reading it from the beginning. Just skip chapters covered by the anime if you want.
Do you happen to have them in .pdf files or something?
I usally save them as Rich Text Documents, but I'm not really satisfied with that.
edit: NVM got them, nicely and well done by some random dude - the illustrations look awesome for this one. Especially the one with Narberal Gamma in a Bunny Suit <3
Need to keep in mind that they'll stop translating this at the end of the year. I wish official releases weren't so slow (freaking 3-6 months/volume just to translate and press things :()
If the pricing Yen Press sports wasn't better called highway robbery, I might even consider buying them, likely as ebooks if they make those. But since their name should be Dollar Press, not Yen Press, I don't know. Maybe I'll just forget the series ever existed. Assuming I'd remember it in any case since it'll take them years to reach volume 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
Is it really that expensive? They cost between 5-15€ depending on how old/kindle/book version.
That's totally fine by me. The only problem I have is that they are slow.
I bought "Is it wrong to pick up girls in a dungeon" and since it gets a 2nd season, I don't feel like waiting for the rest because it will take even more time for them to catch up - that is, if the 2nd season isn't all original content.
Are those light novels just novels, or are they interactive, with multiple outcomes of various situations depending on your choice?
Just normal novels that are really short and usually badly written.
Hmm... Maybe I was mistaken. I have only cursorily glanced at the pricing of manga in English, and it always seemed bafflingly expensive, but I think the situation isn't as simple as I thought, now that I had a better look at it. My bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
Although I still think it should be cheaper in English than in Finnish, not cost anywhere near the same. I mean, I bet popular manga will sell more volumes in English than the total population of Finland. That should somehow be reflected in the price. This is also one reason why I decided not to buy manga in English, only in Finnish.
In any case if I pay, let's say, ~9 euros for real (paperback) novels, I'm definitely not going to pay the same for short light novels with subpar writing quality. Yen Press bosses can buy their next Lamborghinis with somebody else's money.
With a few pictures included to spare you from the trouble of having to use your imagination.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
Well, you either enjoy them or you don't, it's entertainment after all and not about who is being the deepest shakespeare.. The price is all right, depends on how much the author actually gains from it though.Quote:
In any case if I pay, let's say, ~9 euros for real (paperback) novels, I'm definitely not going to pay the same for short light novels with subpar writing quality.
Because if I'm buying it, I'm buying it because I want more of it in the future.
But since (as mentioned several times now :D) they are too slow, I lose intereset before I even decide to invest money most of the time.
Same goes for other franchise, like blu-rays n' stuff. Series are way too expensive, but movies are somewhat reasonable. I've got Rebuild 2.22 here, payed ~15-20(?)€ for it and it came out like 1-2 months later than the nippon version or so? That was pretty cool.
I'm like "do it more often!" and throw money at them as thanks.
But what about the situation at hand now?
- I watched the anime
-> the anime is clearly made to enhance LN sales
-> 1st official translated LN mid ~2016
-> if they follow their normal schedule 2nd will be around late 2016
-> Anime went up to Volume ~3-4
-> Thus new story content would release end ~2017
-> 2 years after I got interested in this series.... Ya right, as if I even remember half of this then.
6 month / release is what the Author has time to come up with stuff and write the story, why does a translation need that amount of time? I get that they need time to press things and to polish it and that you don't want to end up having to wait for the author for new content... but 6 months for ~300-400 DIN A-fucking-6 pages?
We are not talking about a book that takes days to read.... Right now, whenever something gets licensed that I like, I feel like dropping it even though I'm actually extremely willing to pay a somewhat reasonable price (please not 50€ for 3 episodes). However, by the time I can actually get my hands on it, I'm not really interested anymore.
They are too slow period. It is clearly unreasonable.
So Overlord is getting a second season
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...season/.113293
I wouldn't have expected that considering the material they cut, but apparently the recap movie is going to have new scenes, so maybe they will insert some of them to make the second season more valid. At least that would be nicer than starting the second season with such scenes.
Sweet thanks lord! Leaving this with just season 1 as asinine. Now get a 3rd season of Log Horizon running and remake Claymore and we´re talking!
Man, been looking forward to this since I finished the first season. And totally agree with remake of Claymore.
There would be a lot better choices than Log Horizon, which ruined itself with the second season. I didn't believe in Overlord getting a second season, so this news was mighty fine. Now if only Mondaiji and No Game No Life would get one as well.
No Game no life definitly needs a continuation, too, yes.
Btw I´m still waiting for s2 of Ride Back, lol
Definitely need more No Game No Life as well. But I don't see it happening any time soon. Then again I thought the same about Overlord.
Then again....when I saw the Overlord poster in Youjo Senki when time stopped, I had a suspicion it might happen but I left it at that.
And this is a Madhouse show...Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
In any case, quite pumped to see a continuation here. There are SO many series I want a continuation for, once in a rare moon we can rejoice.
Few more details, looks like it's coming out on January 2018:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.cc/news/...y-2018/.121976
http://www.animenewsnetwork.cc/news/...season/.122032
I need this now.
Me too.
I really do.
It does look quite promising. Having read the LNs (except the latest one translated), it should have good stuff.
Looks nice. I really need to rewatch season 1, though.
Oh, you're back.
Kinda. Lots of personal business. Did I miss anything important? :o
Overlord Movie 1, Movie 2 (recap movies)
[AVT] Overlord II - 01 [720p] [English SUB]
The video quality is shit, but it's Overlord. It'll do.
I'll just wait for the actual airing and a HS release. I've read the novels anyway, so it's not like I'd be burning to know what happens next.
I haven't read the novels, but I'll do the same. But honestly, the temptation is strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
Yeah, I confess I checked the torrents earlier, but they were some random things with hardsubs and whatnot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munsu
HS version is out.
What a great first episode... and even though I'm not really part of the group that is responsible for the 2nd season, the creater/animator message at the end took me by suprise.
The production values looked really decent. I guess the studio found funding easier to secure this time.
The episode content was kind of all over the place. If I wasn't a novel reader, I wonder how I'd have felt about it? Would it have felt coherent to suddenly include so many new people? A part of the problem is that the first season cut some stuff because obviously they were never dreaming of making a second season, so it made sense to drop material that was only necessary for later things the original anime would have never covered. So, they needed a bit of a rushed start here.
Yeah, I didn't care much for the first episode. Not that I minded it, just will have to wait for things to develop a bit more since there was little of note other than pure exposition. Nonetheless, looking forward to where it takes us with this setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
It felt overwhelming to watch the beginning of the episode when I first watched the subpar releases. I promptly stopped watching a few minutes in and caught up with S1 by watching the movies. That made S2 way easier since everything is fresh. It went that bad after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
It wasn't overwhelming at all for me. I don't know what information I'm missing, but expect to hear more background stories from the human factions and new characters soon. But even without it, the worldbuilding is already done well enough (thanks to season 1 too)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
The new characters were necessary because S1 ended right before their introduction was due.
People who watched S1 wanted to know more about the human factions, especially the faction that attacked the vampire loli and their objectives. We already knew about the kingdoms and their location on the world-map.
The next Enigma to solve is the big dragon and his knowledge about "world items" and the term "Yggdrasil" (which so far as I remember, has only been mentioned by Ainz as a player)... and I'm pretty sure that he'll be Ainz's main opponent for season 2... or at least I hope so. The "100 years ago"-talk sounded like as if Ainz was not even the first "human"/player to enter this world. But the one before him was most likely an Alliance player, while Ainz is a Horde player.
At some point, I hope to see a 3-way war emerging with Ainz in the middle of it all as the undefeatable endboss. A true opponent and worldboss-faction.
on a side note:
Regrit reminded me of Ana from Overwatch.
It was overwhelming if you needed an introduction back into the series like I did. "Overwhelming" is pretty much just "where the fuck were you from again?" though.
It sounded like the Dragon only just knew about the term Yggdrasil. He's had all 100 years to figure it out if he knew prior to this.
Episode 02
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No wonder these guys have overpopulation issues. They want to fuck way too easily.