I guess his was a proven method.
I just had to watch Rei get abused in the meanwhile.
(Why the hell am I feeling upset about that anyway.. :confused: )
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Would it help if you watch a woman groping a man's chest?
The ending scene had the thug transformed into a zombie, now that would be a force to be reckon with.(yeah, a zombie that is also a hentai)
I have to agree with Shinta on Takashi's plan being the best one around. He obediently threw away the bat and started to refuel the bike letting the molester believe he's perfectly in charge. He also kept the gun hidden which was of utmost importance. Because otherwise the bastard would have told him to throw it away as well or he would slash Rei's throat. I somehow doubt Takashi would have had the guts to disobey considering he was aware of how difficult a weapon a pistol is the moment he held one in his hand.
So, in short, he needed a perfect moment to use the gun under circumstances where the crazed molester would have no chances anymore and where he, as a n00b, wouldn't fail.
Considering the messed up situation they were in, I can't blame Takashi for shooting the guy. For one, the guy already established that he was a threat to Rei and Takashi, cynically speaking, wounding him insures that he won't pounce on them the minute their back is turned or when they're getting on the bike to leave. A crazy, semi-rational human is more dangerous than a zombie. Besides it gives zombies live bait to distract them from their escape.
He could have told the guy to freeze let Rei go and skedaddle, but Takashi was making his choice instinctively in the heat of the moment, with no police training or firearms training, and he just saw his childhood friend being threatened with rape, the only thing going through his head was prlly "take the crazy guy down"
Noone´s blaming Takashi for anything, he didnt do anything wrong.
haha, okay, so you get mad at Rei for wanting to kill the guy, even though she didn't do anything. But then Takashi was the one who shot the guy, which according to your logic was completely out of line, since all he did was tough Rei's breast. I mean, he was groping Rei, and not groping Takashi, so why should Takashi have gotten involved lol?!? Not to mention, Takashi shooting the guy results in the guy getting mauled to death by zombies. So Takashi pretty much killed the guy for touching Rei's breast. But in all of this, Takashi did nothing wrong, and Rei (who did nothing) is the bitch.
Yeah.
But it is totally easy to understand imo: Takashi acted violently when Rei was in immediate danger. The guy left Takashi no other choice but to shoot. Meanwhile, Rei wanted to act violently AFTER the situation had been cleared.
Not that hard to understand, eh?
Earlier, you said that touching Rei's breast shouldn't warrant death. But, Takashi acted violently because Rei's breast was touched, resulting in death. Plus, Takashi didn't HAVE to shoot the guy, once he got the gun to point blank range, but who cares. He didn't do anything wrong. But then Rei had the nerve to glare at someone who tried to rape her. What a bitch.
hahaha I agree with what whoever said earlier in the topic, I think you are trolling
I think this series is going to continually repeat the situation of him killing people over her in some manner or another.
Oh please, Takashi shot that guy with revenge on mind. He didn't really have to shoot him, he can just order the guy to release Rei. And how could you even know what Rei thought at that time? But then again my post would be irrelevant to your natural trolling capabilities.
In my judgement you are wrong, Oyabun. Partially because moments before Takashi had obeyed the molester without a question - to create himself the chance to use the gun he was quite unfamiliar with - and on the other hand because the molester was quite crazed. You can't first be meek and obedient and then suddenly assume to be taken deadly seriously the next moment. If he had not shot, the molester would have again threatened to kill Rei unless Takashi throws the gun away.
You can't really expect to deal gentlemanly with somebody who is so hostile against the other few survivors under such circumstances. The molester had thrown away his humanity already and was little better than the zombies. So, he had to be dealt with just like with the zombies; with appropriate and direct force.
Keep in mind that Takashi only had one chance to save Rei, the bike, and himself.
I think they meant to say, Takashi could have demanded " I have a gun to your chest, give up, drop the knife and let the beauty go" /leave without ever shooting a gun close range.
Then again, if you like hostage situation, you gotta look at this.
Policewoman shoots to kill
Notice: How the policewoman shows the robber mercy by giving him a clean kill? With the level of calmness that Takashi showed, you can safely say that he shot the guy with the intention of revenge?(IMHO, he shot the hentai for insurance, to make sure they don't get entangled with the sorry ass again.)
To further analyze, Takashi was more then just calm, he is probably better then a pro, in the sense that a normal fodder police would have drawn the gun immediately, but he played possum and pretended to discard his "only" weapon(bat).
I would have killed that jackass without hesitation the moment i saw an opening because it's a god damn apocalypse with the dead rising and eating people, you seriously don't have time to fuck around with crazy people.
But if you argue like that, you´d have to say (before even meeting such a freak):
"I would have fucked that hot bitch without hesitation the moment i saw an opening, because its a goddam apocalypse with the dead rising and eating people, you seriously dont have time to fuck around with crazy people, but the hot girl that´s alone with you."
see how I did that :P
It's true he might have been able to solve the situation without shooting, but then again, what if it hadn't worked? What if the crazed molester had decided that Takashi doesn't have what it takes to shoot? Or maybe he would have guessed the gun is just a model? Lots of uncertainties to count on while being slowly surrounded by zombies, whereas shooting was a 99% effective choice. Not to mention it made sure the scumbag doesn't just go looking for easier victims - an obvious option for him.
Again, Rei did nothing but glare at the guy. Nothing. She gave him a mean look. She was mad at someone who tried to rape her.
Takashi shot the guy, and that resulted in his death.
And in all of this, Rei, who did absolutely nothing wrong at all, other than glare at someone who tried to rape her, is the bad guy. If you can't understand something this simple, I'm giving up, since its not worth it lol
LOL seriously, did you even watch the episode? Rei took the baseball bat and walked towards the guy with an expression CLEARLY showing that she wants to kill him. If any further evidence was needed, Takashi also said "Don´t do it" to her, which after Rei barely could get herself to let it go.
Takashi may have caused the guy´s death, but he did so to rescue Rei´s life. Rei instead wouldn´t have done anything positive by killing the guy. It´d would have just been revenge of a "dumb bitch".
Asserting that her intent was clear is a bit silly. Most people don't have it in them to beat a person to death, I figure. Would you really blame her if she just hit him a few times with the bat, injuring but not killing? Additionally, you talk big but if you were in a similar situation do you know how you would react? Would you just walk away? Throwing the first stone and all that.
Unless getting almost raped is not much for MFauli, he wont even think of slapping the guy. Having grudges or ill feelings for the person who tried to rape you is only though of by a "dumb bitch" anyway.
She glared at him! She didn't do shit! Stop being so retarded, and making up actions that she might have done in an alternate universe fairy land and blaming Rei for them.
Also, apparently you didn't watch the episode, since it wasn't the bat she picked up, but her sharpened stick. IMO you should quit trolling.
Jesus christ this is a boring fucking argument.
Agreed
Just watched the first 4 eps. I gotta say this is my favorite anime of the year already. It just sucks that the episodes are over as quickly as they began.
Also anyone notice that they ripped the 28 Days theme? I thought it was cool. Wasn't better than the original though.
-Group leaves bus = check
-Saeko undershot = check
-Zombie action = check
Enjoyment factor? = CHECK
(Okay, I might be over-reacting a bit there since this would be the best episode yet, but we got some soft-spoken Busujima scenes, so wadda you expect?!)
I had a chuckle when they threw Saya into the same category as big-boob sensei standing around during the fight.
I wonder what makes you think she wants to KILL him and not just beat the fuck out of him.Quote:
Takashi may have caused the guy´s death, but he did so to rescue Rei´s life. Rei instead wouldn´t have done anything positive by killing the guy. It´d would have just been revenge of a "dumb bitch".
I mean if some gay asshole is threatening me with a knife implying he wants to fuck my brains out I would do the same even after I got free... I would run up to him and kick into his stomach again.. and again.. and again.
hell, whats wrong with having your revenge? if someone steals your stuff you'd want it back, and after that, you'd want to see that guy who stole ur stuff walking into jail. And surely you'd want that NOT because he might do it again and other people might suffer too, you'd want it because HE FUCKN DESERVED IT
Aoweeeeeeeeee this ep was gooooood, but that "reunion" battle scene was oozing with awesome!
Fucking kickass!
"If you don't mind, I could massage them." This guy has a winner's attitude. No wonder he's still alive.
Yeah, it was a good episode. I'm glad they left the male teacher behind already. It was annoying to watch him have his way with the noname students.
I agree, attempted rape does not deserves death. Preferred punishment is, torture till your natural life span is over.
Caning and allow the wound to fester, then treat it till it recover. Repeat the caning and allow the wound to fester, then treat it again.
(Yeah, it would not be a deterrent and is barbaric./not)
Not entirely sure what they're called but pretty sure what she was holding wasn't the bat and it wasn't her sharpened stick either but a nightstick that she picked up from the police.
The only thing I can say is that we don't know that she would have beaten him to death since we don't know if she would or wouldn't if given the chance, all we know is that she didn't in the end and left pretty quick. We can speculate and guess as much as we want but we probably won't find out if she'd just hit him or kill him since those two are quite different.
Will you stop feeding the fucking troll already? Discuss the current episode ffs...
Well that was just... awesome, there's no other word. In order:
- The sniper was pretty sexy and i liked her attitude, hopefully we'll see more of her soon seeing as they're currently bunking on her apartment
- Anyone else laughed their ass off when those annoying teens got their asses hosed down?
- Hirano was pretty cool when standing up to that bitch ass professor, loved the fear in his eyes when he had the nail gun pointed to his head
- Komuro is the pimp of the dead. Long gone are the days when he was going all emo for 1 girl, now he has a harem wanting him and a teacher grabbing his crotch as he rides into the sunset
The preview looks fanservilicious, can't wait
The teacher has the stench of death marked on him, hopefully it is a painful one. That guy just pisses me off. Maybe it was because he stole Lelouch's exaggerated hand gestures during his speech. I don't think even Lelouch twisted so much during his grand speeches.
I have no sympathy for the other classmates who stayed behind with the guy, the girls practically looked like they were begging to join the teacher's personal harem. Good on Hirano, saving the nurse.
"You're such a man, Hirano"
God Busujima is so awesome XD. Can we add her name amongst 'whitebeard"
I also love how Hirano just 'powers up' whenever someone puts a gun in his hand rofl.
It was probably because of those 10 minutes worth of recaps that we got this action scene. They work on a limited budget, afterall.
in my opinion that "bike throw" was a bit over the top in terms of "realism" (ya I know zombies are not realistic either etc. etc. but thats not what I meant), would have been much better if he started smashing zombie heads with a baseball bat or a crowbar while driving past them
Or picking Saeko up then she starts smashing zombie heads while riding behind Takashi. I honestly thought that would happen.
I wonder if we'll get any variation in zombies like animals since we've only seen human zombies so far.
there wont be animal zombies...at least...that´d be like instant-death. i mean, you just can defend yourself against all those smaller animals, can you.
Perhaps they may visit a zoo? No matter how good animal instincts are, it won't help if they are locked in a cage with zombies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
I'm also wondering, will this virus evolve the zombies as time passes like in other movies? Grant them the intelligence to communicate/use weapons (land of the dead) or perhaps mutate them into crazier, runner zombies ala resident evil? Bashing slow (abeit super strong) zombies does eventually get stale.
Just thought that I would point out this fun fact.
The VA for the sexy sniper, Takeuchi Junko, is better known for her role as Naruto.
/Ryllharu's mind blown
Oiroke no Jutsu...
You probably already mentioned this, but:
The fat guy with the nail gun (Hirano Kouta) = Madarame Ikkaku
Komuro = Grimmjow
Whose STUPID idea was it to italicise every instance of sempai?
It annoyed the fuck out of me when gg freelance-subbed K-ON, but I thought it was [minor K-ON spoiler] to put emphasis of Azy-nyan's Yui-senpai, to highlight that Yui doesn't act much like a senior most of the time, but here it's clear that they simply thought it was a good idea. They did it with onii-chan in the preview as well.
Simply Stupid.
I'll watch them (or Horrible or something), but I'm going to archive Tomodachi's from now on (after I watch one of their solo works).
One more thing for the QC-less gg, a gun otaku would never confuse a clip with a magazine.
Good work.
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So who didn't get a boner from this? You need to see a doctor
I can't find an explanation for what happened to Rei or the teacher besides being drunk (which probably wasn't the case). Shower heat doesn't do that to you.
By far my favourite bits in this episode were (surprise, surprise) all the Saeko scenes. Fanservice was good and all, but it doesn't quite match up to the interaction between her and Takashi. The whole mutual respect thing that goes on between them just shouts "perfect match", which made Rei's beckoning all the more annoying. They're the most likeminded pair in this entire group, but there's this thorn called Rei that's getting stuck between them and keeping them apart.
If you like Hisashi so much go join him. Geez.
The police guy had the right idea, and he might have gotten somewhere with his authority. Now that you've killed yourself, you're telling all your officers that it was a bad thing to do - so what, you want them to regret it and kill themselves too?
Stupid cop.
It was a hot episode for sure. I don't know why Bill thought they can't be drunk. If I have ever seen an anime depiction of a drunken person then those two would be it. No doubt they found the sniper woman's stash of booze. Stash brought into my mind how ridiculous the weapons locker was; anybody who has had a look at the real things at a hardware store will know nothing short of special equipment or explosives will open them. Well, for the plot purposes it was of course essential they could rob the lady's treasures.
But yeah, Saeko was the hottest of the lot with the naked apron approach.
I might as well have a look at Tomodachi's releases. I think I've gotten something from them before. GG isn't what it used to be ever since they prioritized trolling higher than subbing.
wow, gun otaku. I didnt know the difference between a clip and a magazine.
A comparison between all groups. Some of the best looking ones dropped the show because of GG... blegh
http://www.ji-hi.net/hotd/index.html
What's wrong with GG?
Based on that comparison page RZ posted, Tomodachi isn't exactly the most fluent and natural looking of them. I might not, after all, consider of getting them instead.
Yeah... Tomodachi didn't convince me at the end... none of them did actually... DarkSouls must have started late, so its not on the site.
CoalGuys was doing a good job... and Commie wasn't great, but it wasn't bad. Both jumped ship.
Anyway... I think I'll keep seeing GG for now, hoping they stop their trolling... if I find a better group I'll let you guys know.
I already made up my mind to stick with TMD a few weeks ago. GG's trolling and blatant Americanizations have burned their last bridge with me and I'm going with TMD mostly because I'm familiar with them from the FMA brohood days, I'll take my chances.
*Nosebleed*
I came teh buckets
I wonder if they'll make it even worse in the Blurays
I'm bothered by the lack of realism in this anime, I mean, everyone's tits are too big. This show is in serious need of some loli.
Yay, spoilers? >_>
It was in the preview.
Also,
I've done this before too, though, so I can't really complain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gotwoot Policy on Spoilers
I have to agree that the lack of realism is kind of disappointing. Not that what we get is "that" bad, but I´d love to see a zombie-anime in the vein of Magnitude 8.0. (which wasnt about zombies, lol, but featured a believable world)
I think he means the over-the-top action.
I've been reading this manga for years... so none of the things people are complaining here really bother me. The plot is good enough, so yeah.
damn, great episode...really hot stuff and the stuff after the credits was even better.
takashi sure is one kind of a lucky guy.
I'm really looking forward to see more of this anime
To me this episode was about Saeko's ass.....great episode indeed.
Okay, this show is still kind of entertaining, but come on, it´s getting ridiculous:
- Busujima is the worst anime-character ever. She has absolutely no fear of zombies, wears that tiny piece of clothing and then acts as if there never was an emancipation, "The man has spoken". At this point, she just comes off as the author´s dream girl, not a believable character.
- Sensei freaking forgot to put on clothes WTF?! Her brainless attitude was annoying from ep1/2 on, but this is beyond ludicrous.
- "We found out that we´re still human!", Rei happily shouts. Yeah, bitch, you´re the last person of them all to claim that.
Favourite part of the episode were all Hirano-related scenes. And I hope he´ll get to fuck one or two of the girls over the course of the series, lol. Also, lol @Komuro saying "i guess things dont work out like in an anime", right after he did typical anime-action stuff.
It was pretty ridiculous, so much that I had to laugh out loud when the Humvee arrived featuring Saeko. But ridiculous in a very fun way.
Nuh Uh. Dream girl FTW.Quote:
- Busujima is the worst anime-character ever. She has absolutely no fear of zombies, wears that tiny piece of clothing and then acts as if there never was an emancipation, "The man has spoken". At this point, she just comes off as the author´s dream girl, not a believable character.
I think I'm pretty used to it now. It's finally hit me that she's useless and nothing's going to be done about it, so I'll have to make do with her non-existent brain and gigantic tits.Quote:
- Sensei freaking forgot to put on clothes WTF?! Her brainless attitude was annoying from ep1/2 on, but this is beyond ludicrous.
Yeah.. well, to me Rei's pretty human. Maybe not a role model, but definitely human. I guess learning that they haven't fallen as low as they thought they may have given this chaos can be pretty uplifting. I know I would feel that way.Quote:
- "We found out that we´re still human!", Rei happily shouts. Yeah, bitch, you´re the last person of them all to claim that.
Hirano scenes were indeed fun. I could only watch and smile as his shoulder took on all that recoil without a problem while every zombie in a 5m arc went flying. (Though, he did have top quality shock absorbers that grant you Hardened +1 )
The gg translation was pretty horrible. What makes it so bad is that the mistakes aren't blatant enough to be obvious (so viewers assume they are correct), but greatly affect the perception of the characters' personalities.
An example is the time when Saeko was informing Komuro that they had no choice in such dire times. She was actually saying something like, "I am just stating the facts. That does not mean I want it that way." They translated this as "Whether you like it or not, I am merely stating the truth."
There is a big difference between the two, especially because it is a line that reflects Saeko's personality. The gg version makes her sound like a jerk, while she was actually saying something that should give the opposite impression (that of a strong and kind onee-san that she is).
gg's errors notwithstanding, I loved this episode. It was just the kind of noncircumspect, honest, and also full of funny theatrics kind of action I can appreciate. The action felt like it was taken from a computer game where the player enjoys doing straight-forward shooting of everything that moves and bike driving like there's no tomorrow.
The fanservice is so over the top that it's actually starting to feel natural for this series. At least it's more refreshing than the usual guy wandering into a bathroom while a girl is there scenes. There's simply no need to find excuses for showing some skin in this series.
I'm also happing the little girl joined the crew. I hope she stick around. So far all female characters have been full of fanservice, so it's nice to get one who's not all about that. I just hope she won't end up as someone who needs saving regularly. Hard to see what a kid could be useful for, but on the other hand the cast has hardly been all utilitarian even so far. Even the nurse is completely useless for anything but having a driver's license (and an awesome friend)...
actually they translated it as "don't get the wrong idea, im just stating the truth"Quote:
"I am just stating the facts. That does not mean I want it that way." They translated this as "Whether you like it or not, I am merely stating the truth."
which means: "It's not that I don't want to help them/her...." etc
I can't see the problem there
---- starting from 4:21-----
Do not get the wrong idea, Komuro.
Whether you like it or not, I am merely stating the truth.
-------end transcript------
I'm with Shinta here.
Shinta's version comes off as "I don't like it either, but this is what reality is."
gg's version comes off as "That's reality. Go suck it."
so you leave out the meaning of the "do not get the wrong idea" part and totally ignore it?
not to mention the kind face she made when she said that.
nah, come on, it was fine, I don't know about other parts though, for example that "MMO" speech
"Don't get the wrong idea" buffered it a little bit, but it still put everything back on Komuro. It's like how people go "No offense, but [insert insult here]"
(By not mentioning herself when Komuro indirectly asked for her opinion, she basically made it come off as "It's not my fault you can't hack it little man."
As for her face, she had a slight (and kind, or even sad) smile when you look at it one way, but when you take her words into account, it could almost be a smirk as well.
(I'm exaggerating stuff a little bit here, but I think it's generally true)
The translation was wrong, and could be easily misunderstood.
The "Don't get the wrong idea" part is translated directly, so it should of course be there and imply the correct meaning. The "whether you like it or not" part was not in the original Japanese text at all, and implies the opposite meaning. They mistranslated "Sore wo kononde nado inai." (Direct TL: I do not want/like that at all) probably because the subject was omitted.
About her face, it is only natural that she would make an expression that supports what she actually meant, but that does not make the translation correct. If anything, it makes it weird because what she said (in the subs) does not match her expression.
Also, there were other errors or bad word choices. That is just one example.
It's just a little weird for people who know Japanese, because they say one thing, but the nuances of the implication of the translation are sort of "bent" rather than "extended". So hearing it and reading it is a little jarring. I don't know if I could call it westernized or more modern, it just feels like it's the translator's voice rather than the authors. This is what I would call a "liberal" translation. By definition I think a literal translation would still use slang, but they would stay true to the nuances of the character and the slang/implications they used.
I preferred Coalguys.
Your post made me laugh MFauli. I totally agree that Busujima is probably the authors ideal woman LOL
I was a little bit :o at the fanservice but I resolved that the author was just a genius at ero and action and left it at that. The little girl is like loli on crack, so of course I immediately hate her. Part of what helps me like or at least accept every character are their percievable flaws: it helps me see them as more than one dimensional. Loli Girl is like a cardboard cut out of every helpless then cute/mildly-helpful-mostly-hindering mega loli in existence. I hope I am wrong.
I was a little shocked that the dad got stabbed in the heart. Sad. :( My suspension of disbelief has now failed with the teacher, but oddly enough came back with the motercycle fighting. I was a little disturbed at Glasses blushing at a little girl landing on his crotch. (or maybe the fact that it was written)
I want more purple haired chick!
I took that "The man has spoken" more like a joke or otherwise a comment simply meant to convey that the course of action has been decided. She might also be from some dojo family prone to old-fashioned speech, who knows. But one such comment hardly means she has never heard of emancipation. It might even have been a sort of jab at Komuro, suggesting that he thinks he's the leader simply because he's a man.
Well, I cant remember what exactly, but Busujima made a comment like that ago, so I dont think she meant it as a joke. Oh well, we´ll find out, I guess...
This is pure entertainment!
Ok, first of all lol at this scene
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/2...fthedead07.jpg
That's one horny bitch
Second, fuck all Saeko haters
Third, am i the only one thinking that taking a barking dog along for the ride is unbelievably retarded? Sound = bad
And fourth, where can i download the OST?
Why didn't the zombies attack that dog when it was just standing in the street barking at them, they seemed to simply walk right past it..
But when the little girl started crying they immediately went for her..
Maybe dogs don't taste good?