View Full Version : Let's talk about Kenshin Manga, OVA, TV, Movie. **Spoiler**
itachi_
Thu, 04-15-2004, 10:57 AM
Okay, I've got Kenshin TV 1-95, Kenshin OVA1, Kenshin OVA2, Kenshin - The Movie, Kenshin manga 1-255, All 9 soundtracks, All art-books, Even the the making of kenshin. I've seen all those series like 5-6 times in like a month and I still don't get some things straight..
... Why did the TV contain fillers from episode 63 and up, I've read the manga and they didn't follow the manga after episode 63, anyone know and has a statement or a very reasonable thought about that?
All those tv-episodes were just a waste of time... and OVA2 was Bullshit, why did they make that ova2, showing Kenshin dead, when he didn't die in the manga? they should't be allowed to do such thing :S
If they could cut out 64 and up and replace them with the episodes following the manga, and TAKE AWAY the OVA2, and make a longer OVA1, then it would've been the best ever, though OVA1 was still good, the others weren't that good, and as I said, OVA2 and fillers 64 and up = BS, do not watch them
Personally I like the manga best, it's authentic, not BS,
Did they make that rediculous OVA2 and fillers because of the budget? no more money, or like the creator of kenshin was bitching with someone and did that?
Death BOO Z
Thu, 04-15-2004, 12:59 PM
Like how it happens in a lot of good mangas, the anime started too soon and reached the Manga before it ended, so the studio had to decide wheather to drop the anime and wait for the manga to be completed or to try it on thier own.
Obviously they chose the bad option, and started making the "German knights, Spanshi fencer, Water clan and amaxa shougu" arcs, which all suck (i didn't watch them, but everybody i know says i'm lucky).
I have no idea about OVA 2, though, probably another stupid budget problem...
I liked the first OVA and the TV series, espically the shishio arc. the manga was nice, but i didn't get any touch of the fightings, and almost none of the villians appelead to me (Enishi was cool, but all his sidekicks were so lame...). in the anime, i was going crazy over the fighting scenes (someone should hire that anime crew and force them to animate Naruto) and the first OVA is one of the best anime's i've ever seen (even tough it left some parts out).
Oniwabanshi shiki kodachi nittoryu ougie! Kaiten ken buro ko ren!
from the deapths of baketry hell, Benjamin.
edit: i didn't mean i haven't watched OVA2, but that i don't know what's with the diffrence from the manga. I watched it twice, and fell asleep on both of them, i watched some AMVs from it later on, so i know it looks great.
itachi_
Thu, 04-15-2004, 01:02 PM
Don't, Please do <u>NOT</u> watch OVA2, you'll get disappoited.. it was just a big failure... however OVA2 has been stated as being the best drawn and animated, in other words, it has the highest quality ever, but what is quality when it sucks anyway.
AkimichiChouji
Thu, 04-15-2004, 01:06 PM
I have the Kenshin OVA 1-4 if you want the other 2 i could hook you up?
yenlowang
Fri, 04-16-2004, 09:09 AM
ova 2 = death of kenshin
supposed to be what happened after the manga
death = makes kenshin more human = good
but yeah ... if you dont like drama dont watch OVA 2
PS. i have heard theories that vary from the anime actually out paced the manga to some disagreement at the top about how to develope the series. In the end doesnt really matter.
itachi_
Fri, 04-16-2004, 09:44 AM
Err, what do you mean? Kenshin didn't died in the manga, but in the OVA2 which is not following the manga he did, manga is original and best, the authentic shit, he did not died in the manga so that's the thing that we should acknowledge, not that he died like in OVA2
Poiple Weezard
Fri, 04-16-2004, 10:17 AM
Anime, manga, movies, books and comics. They are all different forms to tell stories. If the manga differs from the anime, don't hold it against the anime. Treat them as individual stories, don't relate them to each other. The anime being well done (not if it was accurate) should be your focus.
Despite the fact that I despise most dramas, I found that the humanity it displayed in Kenshin and the emotions in Kaoru were absolutely amazing. This was a great way to finish off the OVA series.
itachi_
Fri, 04-16-2004, 11:22 AM
Then my friend, I'll have to say that you're alone, OVA2 was a big mistake according to everyone who "knows" kenshin... it was not watsuki's idea! god damnit, he should've been the one to choose.
Uberbaka
Fri, 04-16-2004, 12:07 PM
Well, then there's two of us being alone. I liked how Kenshin died, it ended everything. Although it wasn't in the manga it was still worthy. Just 'cause the manga is, as you say, "the authentic shit" doesn't mean the story is limited to it.
Oh, and everything after the shishio ark was total bullshit of fillers.. annoying stuff. Just like that episode where naruto was going to the stadium *sigh*
hiddenpookie
Sat, 04-17-2004, 09:12 PM
Dude i liked ova2 it was geting tireing kenshin being all godlike and shit. 'bout time he died lol j/k i liked it sad, good plot good animations. pretty much evrything is answered u see he has a son kenji..and also shows what happens to everybody.as they started living there separate ways..he had to die and we needed to know how! and ive been watching rk since like 2001. ya it wasnt his idea o well but see its not kenshin its samurai x!!!!!!! baka!! lol...
itachi_
Sat, 04-17-2004, 09:18 PM
Ike ike...
sigh, read the manga if you haven't already read it, then you'll know what I'm talking about
JusDaMan
Sat, 04-17-2004, 09:31 PM
-.- kenshin and karou died from STD...
But hell yea manga is so much better... Before the manga.. I had no idea y da heck was sanoskue in china lol.
But if u didnt get OVA2... The title was enishi was for OVA2 to show the fight between kenshin and enishi in anime. and also to close the kenshin story for good. I don't see how it was crappy. OVA2 skips around really really alot... it starts when enishi kidnaps karou then skips to kenshin fighting enishi. when kenshin fought yahiko that was the end of manga. Kenshin got lost during the war is AFTER the manga. kenji is a kid when manga ended. kenji is already a teen during OVA and learning some of hiten mitsurugi but hiko wont teach all.
itachi_
Sat, 04-17-2004, 10:18 PM
Yeah but the fight in OVA2 between Kenshin and Enishi is so short, compare that to the fight in the manga, you don't even see a ryo. And the way he kidnaps karou in the animne is difference from the manga too
If you have read the manga you automatically starts to dislike OVA2, it's the law of narture, atleast in this case.
edit: justdaman you don't have any time perspective, I'll ignore that.
JusDaMan
Sun, 04-18-2004, 12:52 AM
da heck is time perspective? dont use big words! u confuse me! lol
Mut
Sun, 04-18-2004, 01:38 AM
what is OVA?
and what was that 2 part long eps called? they showed how kenshin got his X scar.
Uzumaki Naruto
Sun, 04-18-2004, 01:45 AM
ive seen all of the eps of kenshin tv and all of the ovas, and i liked the tv series better, but the ova was a sad anime, i mean the part where kenshin dies that is, that was very moving, i never new that kaoru and kenshin had a son till i watched the ova, but over all i love all of the kenshin series and shit, havent read the manga yet, i plan on to, but just dont want to go look for the manga bc i know its going to take me while to look for all of the mangas
JusDaMan
Sun, 04-18-2004, 01:53 AM
OVA is Original Video Animation.
The 2 part OVA is basically Rurouni Kenshin - Seisouhen. it is to close the kenshin story once and for all. very good and sad. though kinda stupid since the death isnt being killed but from a std
the episode where they show kenshin getting his scar is Rurouni Kenshin - Reminisence. that is the 4 OVA that is before the actucal series. those r the episodes with tomoe in it.
winnydapoo
Sun, 04-18-2004, 02:58 AM
ok I haven't seen it but does he really die from STD? you gotta be kidding me....
itachi_
Sun, 04-18-2004, 05:31 AM
No he dosen't die, don't count OVA2.
yenlowang
Sun, 04-18-2004, 08:32 AM
just a thought
they can do anything they want with the character because they own it?
if you dont like it then it sux to be you, but in the end its up to the directors and the dudes who sign the checks. they arent going to cry over pissing you off because its evident from this thread alone that there are ppl out there who like the 2nd OVA series?
also how the hell is it not official? the creator of the series has to approve the OVA before it can even go into pre-production.
so whether you like it or not kenshin is dead. and its official too.
Okay, I've got Kenshin TV 1-95, Kenshin OVA1, Kenshin OVA2, Kenshin - The Movie, Kenshin manga 1-255, All 9 soundtracks, All art-books, Even the the making of kenshin. I've seen all those series like 5-6 times in like a month and I still don't get some things straight..
maybe you have too much free time and money o_O
itachi_
Sun, 04-18-2004, 08:44 AM
Watsuki honestly didn't want it to be made, he and Furuhashi Kazuhiro did not agree with eachother... It's strange how furuhashi was able to do that ova knowing that the authentic author of rurouni kenshin disliked that idea *Kisama*
Poiple Weezard
Sun, 04-18-2004, 08:56 AM
Regardless of what happened, or didn't happen, at the end of the manga, this is the General Anime section. Discussions here follow the anime storyline, which it seems more people have seen and care about at this point.
itachi_
Sun, 04-18-2004, 08:59 AM
They don't understand the powah of Rurouni Kenshin manga -_-, okay let me put it like this, if you haven't read the manga, don't post any shit in this thread, becasue then you don't know a god damn shit about kenshin, the kenshin manga has a deeper storyline i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif you acknowledge more things etcetc
hiddenpookie
Sun, 04-18-2004, 11:05 AM
yeah itachi_ u luky sob u have everything....
itachi_
Sun, 04-18-2004, 11:17 AM
maybe you have too much free time and money o_O
Err? what are you talking about?
Death BOO Z
Sun, 04-18-2004, 11:29 AM
man... if you guys haven't heard about Downloading from the internet yet, this forum really isn't your place...
Itachi_ means he got all of the above on his HD, not real copies..
but i agree, you're sweden, so you have killer download speeds, you SOB..
Note: if you haven't understood the last sentence was a joke, you're really hopeless...
itachi_
Sun, 04-18-2004, 11:42 AM
What's so special with having all kenshin eps? 0_o
hiddenpookie
Sun, 04-18-2004, 11:57 AM
ehh u mean u d/l the artbooks? meh that would be lame...
Poiple Weezard
Sun, 04-18-2004, 12:35 PM
You're telling me that I can't talk about the anime in the anime thread?
If you want to talk about the manga, go to the general manga section. Otherwise, let people express their own opinions.
Death BOO Z
Sun, 04-18-2004, 12:49 PM
o,k, assholes. let's try to put this subject behind and discuss the great manga\anime...
I'll start: whay do you guys think about Sanosuke?
I think he was supposed to be the 'cool guy' of the show, but in the end he was only a lousy sidekick (think about robin from batman), becuase even with his cool looks and lazy ideals ("those basterds,,, leaving to eat without me!") he never managed to do anything really impresive, and when he finally got an "ougie", he used it well for one fight and he had to destory his arm each time afterwards to use it.
also, beside anji, he didn't fight againsy anyone normal: he had to fight twice against the stupid guy from enishi's six pack (the guy who looks like the evil bully from jackie chan's adventures cartoon), and then he was up against the byakko guy, and even though he screamed something nice ("start punching me, dammit", in reffernce to byakko's gay fighting style) he still had to bust his damn arm to stop him.
the only nice part he had was when he returned to his home, and the fighting there screamed "FILLER CRAP", even though it was immpossible, since it was the manga and it doesn't have any filler in it. it's just that the fight was so obvious it was practically a burden on the reading...
any thought about this subject? anything which doesn't involve petty arguments is welcomed..
itachi_
Sun, 04-18-2004, 12:51 PM
You can't discuss kenshin unless you've read the manga, you narrow people go read the manga, you don't know anything about kenshin if you just watch the anime
JusDaMan
Sun, 04-18-2004, 01:12 PM
Man I read the manga already. and seen all the OVA's and i see nothing wrong with it. If u cant accept that kenshin can die then ur too obsessed with kenshin. Rurouni Kenshin Seisouhen was very touching and good way to end the story. IT happend AFTER MANGA ENDED.
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