Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu

[shinta|hikari]

Yeah, Subaru is finally doing something.

[DarthEnderX]

That first 6 minutes should have been how the LAST half-season ended.

[MFauli]

It was an okay episode.

I wonder how long the finale of this arc takes. Season 1 had several archs, but it feels like this keeps going on longer and the whole season is just one arch :/

Also, did Puck just casually die and Subaru was fine with it? wtf

[shinta|hikari]

He never cared for that little shit. It was always getting in his way of screwing Emilia.

[neflight86]

At this point, due to repetition and the somewhat bloated cast and causality, the characters are simply saying words and I'm parsing about half of them. Because the dialogue is so round-about, I just have kind of stopped caring and cannot follow the story anymore. I'll try again when its done, but as is, in a twenty minute episode, this simply doesn't hold my attention like it used to.

[DarthEnderX]

Also, did Puck just casually die and Subaru was fine with it?He didn't die. He just ended his contract with Emelia.


He never cared for that little shit. It was always getting in his way of screwing Emilia.Bullshit! Puck was a solid wingman!

Emelia trusts Puck, and Puck liked Subaru. He was lighting the runway!

[MFauli]

S02-E15:

Otto is now the main character, lol.

Garfiel clearly wasn't serious, at least in the beginning when he punched Otto in the face, otherwise his head would have been blown off. But why did Garfiel arrive at Subaru's place at the end? Ram wouldn't let him pass unless her life's gone :/ God, if this turns into another failed timeline, it'll be too cruel for Subaru.

[DarthEnderX]

"If you don't want this, then dodge."

I loled.


I can't believe they made the cab driver suddenly important.

[MFauli]

"If you don't want this, then dodge."

I loled.

I'll actually remember that.

... except irl she will dodge for sure :(

[shinta|hikari]

Ep 41:











Finally Emilia decides to act like a main character for fucking once.

WTF is the pathetic level of Betelgeuse hand power that Subaru displayed?

[DarthEnderX]

WTF is the pathetic level of Betelgeuse hand power that Subaru displayed?It's his first time?

I wonder if he can take all the Apostles powers if he beats them. I do love me some Megamanning.

[MFauli]

And I had to think about my old theory that Beetlegeuse somehow is an older Subaru from the future, like a corrupted version that succumbed to his lust for Emilia. A couple episodes ago Roswaal talked to Subaru about 'becoming/being" like him, Roswaal, and since both Beetlegeuse and Roswaal are clown-like eccentrics, well ...

I know, probably totally wrong, but oh well.

[KrayZ33]

And I had to think about my old theory that Beetlegeuse somehow is an older Subaru from the future, like a corrupted version that succumbed to his lust for Emilia. A couple episodes ago Roswaal talked to Subaru about 'becoming/being" like him, Roswaal, and since both Beetlegeuse and Roswaal are clown-like eccentrics, well ...

I know, probably totally wrong, but oh well.

We've already seen a flashback of him.
He had connections to Emilias family if I remember correctly and was crying while holding Emilias hand (or was it Emilias sister/mother? I don't remember) as if saying something like "please don't go" or "farewell"

I don't quite remember anymore if it was the OVA or season 2.
Might have been the OVA because I remember saying something like "uhm... this is actually pretty important for the show, and people should/have to watch it for stuff like that alone"

[MFauli]

We've already seen a flashback of him.
He had connections to Emilias family if I remember correctly and was crying while holding Emilias hand (or was it Emilias sister/mother? I don't remember) as if saying something like "please don't go" or "farewell"

I don't quite remember anymore if it was the OVA or season 2.
Might have been the OVA because I remember saying something like "uhm... this is actually pretty important for the show, and people should/have to watch it for stuff like that alone"

Oh wow, that'd be important indeed, if it was just to be found in an OVA.

thx

[MFauli]

42:

Wow, i already feel bad for Geuse :(

[shinta|hikari]

How did he grow so freakin' ugly?

[Buffalobiian]

How did he grow so freakin' ugly?

"Your skin stayed nice and supple...
You've been slothful.... haven't you?!"

[MFauli]

How did he grow so freakin' ugly?

Sith lord curse

[DarthEnderX]

Wow, i already feel bad for GeuseI'll save my sympathy until I see why he changed. He's already a bit unstable.

[MFauli]

I'd like to find out why he can live for so long. Apparently he is older than the elf mama even.

[KrayZ33]

Pretty boring and so slow actually.
I found it weird that they basically showed the same scene twice when they distributed goods/clothes etc.
Was something different the 2nd time around that I didn't really notice? It feels like this could've been merged into one "emlia-escapes-adventure".

I always noticed this, but this time around even more... the pacing of this show is *horrible*. Probably because I'm actually seeing some good pacing in other shows this time around.

This show has so many small important things that you only "see", so I wonder why they waste so much time talking.
Especially since I have serious trouble understanding Subaru, or just about anyone to be honest, when they have a discussion...they talk alot, but say absolutely nothing while they talk. It's like they talk in riddles all the time. It's really annoying tbh.
I just want to know what's going on. Stop dragging this out damnit!

[MFauli]

I think the pacing itself is fine, it's just that the anime is TOO interesting and makes you curious about sooo many things at the same time. I mean, there's still the whole Elsa assassin part - feels like that has been forgotten, lol, but I also can't say that there has been any filler content.

It's just frustrating, because ... how many years will it be before Season 3 airs? :(

[DarthEnderX]

I think the pacing itself is fine, it's just that the anime is TOO interesting and makes you curious about sooo many things at the same time. I mean, there's still the whole Elsa assassin part - feels like that has been forgottenYeah, we've been on Emelia and these test for this entire part of the season that I almost forget that after she finally clears this shit, they STILL have the rabbits AND the mansion attack to deal with.

I hope he at least gets a save point after the barrier comes down.

[Buffalobiian]

Chibi Emilia > current Emilia.

[DarthEnderX]

43

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Witch of Vanity? That's not one of the 7 Deadly Sins. I guess there aren't just 7 Witches.

Seems like being a Sin Archbishop also has no bearing on which Witch you actually follow.

[MFauli]

I was totally confused. Thought that witch was supposed to be Echidna at first. And what was the point of the Beatrice/Echidna flashback anyway? Just to show that Beatrice and Echidna know each other?

Anyway, I hate guy, Corneus, right? Such a loudmouth. Anybody with god-like destruction power can talk big, that's so lame.

Also why did Betelgeuse and Emilia's mom never hook up? They had all the time. Now those boobs go to waste unused :(

Btw LOL: Vanity witch defeats Corneus the same way the green-haired witch in Slime isekai does. I guess putting enemies in a hole is the ultimate technique .

[KrayZ33]

Hmmm...

what I got out of this (and from the last episode, specifically that flashback when Puck "de-frosted" Emilia) is that I feel like Puck is Fortuna.

I wish I could remember the OVA better, which was basically that "de-frost" scene from Pucks POV.

[Buffalobiian]

Yeah, Puck is the only one who calls her Lia. It was always weird why "he" called her his daughter though, and now it makes sense.

[DarthEnderX]

44

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Okay, NOW I feel bad for Geuse.

I can't believe it took 6 episodes to get to the OP...

[shinta|hikari]

I still don't. He was tricked. He didn't mean to kill her. Get over it.

Instead, he went insane and sided with the enemy. No sympathy here.

[DarthEnderX]

46

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Oh thank god, shit is finally happening. I was getting so bored.

[shinta|hikari]

This is heading to an awesome climax.

Ram and Puck vs Roswaal
Garfiel with bracers vs Bowelady
Subaru vs Tsundolly

Just makes me laugh that if Subaru somehow managed to befriend and ally with Reinhard, all this shit would be done with so easily. That guy is OP as fuck. I wouldn't be surprised if he could take on Bowelady, Puck, Roswaal, Garfiel, Catsister, Tsundolly, Ram, Rem, and Emilia all at the same time. He already has idioms used by denizens of remote villages, after all.

[Buffalobiian]

1. I thought Puck was supposed to sleep during evening times. It looked dark at the Sanctuary.

2. There's the beastmaster summoning girl too. I don't remember whether she was supposed to help assault the mansion, or whether she was headed to Sanctuary.

Honestly against Bowel Lady, one should just wear tummy armour just to piss her off.

[DarthEnderX]

Just makes me laugh that if Subaru somehow managed to befriend and ally with Reinhard, all this shit would be done with so easily.I had to look up who that was, it's been so long since we've been outside this fucking town...

[KrayZ33]

1. I thought Puck was supposed to sleep during evening times. It looked dark at the Sanctuary.

2. There's the beastmaster summoning girl too. I don't remember whether she was supposed to help assault the mansion, or whether she was headed to Sanctuary.

Honestly against Bowel Lady, one should just wear tummy armour just to piss her off.

1. Isn't that just due to the contract with Emilia? Maybe the contract with Subaru is different.
2. She was there to help at the mansion.

edit:
Oh btw, Roswal - present time, talks a bit like that Melancholy guy. During the scenes in the past, he didn't (or did he?).

You know, his "Eeeehhheeeeeeeeeeheee" or "Noooohooonii" thing he does at the end of a sentence.
Not to mention that the same guy looked a bit like a clown/jester, while Roswal looked like a normal noble more or less in the past and not like a jester at all, like he does now.
I'm smelling a connection.
What I can say with almost full certainty, is that he adopted his style and speech for whatever reason

[MFauli]

I assumed he adopted the style to become an apostle.

Btw I'm surprised how weak Roswaal is after all. I thought he'd be on a level where he could obliterate all the apostles by himself, but now Rem and Puk are enough? Eh.

Regarding Puk sleeping: I assumed that's the reason why Puk vanished until now. He (she?) was charging energy so he could fight at night, too.

[Buffalobiian]

Oh btw, Roswal - present time, talks a bit like that Melancholy guy. During the scenes in the past, he didn't (or did he?).

He has indeed. We also don't know the outcome of that whole Sanctuary incident yet so we don't know what happened between Roswaal and old mate. One would wonder if they fused or something.

[DarthEnderX]

I thought he'd be on a level where he could obliterate all the apostles by himself, but now Rem and Puk are enough?Lol, what? You thought Roswall was bigger than the main antagonists?

And Puck can literally end the world in ice if he wants.

[shinta|hikari]

And Puck can literally end the world in ice if he wants.

Except he can't. Reinhard comes along and kills him.

[DarthEnderX]

Except he can't. Reinhard comes along and kills him.How? His special ability is just that attacks just kinda miss him.

Is that gonna keep him from freezing to death when he finds out the world is freezing over and he's days away from the source?


It's also pretty irrelevant here unless you think Reinhard is going to come to Roswall's aid.

[shinta|hikari]

Reinhard was already shown killing Berserk Puck in the anime. (https://youtu.be/a-H6EM0Oe7o)

[DarthEnderX]

Forgot that even happened.

[MFauli]

S2 - Episode 10:

Well, I can't wait for THOSE h-doujins. ;>

About the episode: At long last a bit progress. And stfu, Elsa, nobody cares about a psycho murderer's past, you stopped being a victim when you started murdering people. Honestly, I hate how Garf's sister only snatched Elsa's sister away instead of killing her. That brat deserves death just as much as her big sister.

The Roswaal-Ram fight confuses me just about in every way. Why keep fighting after the love confession? Why did Ram cough blood after retrieving the book? Why did Roswaal think he stands a chance against Puck? And are they dead now? Because bringing back Rem, only to have Ram die would suck a lot.

And the blonde witch is now Emilia's real mom or what was that scene about? I interpreted it that way, because she didnt want her to see the face of a mother that isn't Fortuna's.

[DarthEnderX]

And the blonde witch is now Emilia's real mom or what was that scene about? I interpreted it that way, because she didnt want her to see the face of a mother that isn't Fortuna's.Everyone is secretly Emilia's mom!

[shinta|hikari]

That brat deserves death just as much as her big sister.

Absolutely this.



The Roswaal-Ram fight confuses me just about in every way. Why keep fighting after the love confession?

Because Ram wants to destroy the book to "free" Roswaal, and Roswaal just wants to get rid of obstacles to his goal.


Why did Ram cough blood after retrieving the book?
Roswaal damaged her as she grabbed the book. She wouldn't have been hurt and would've killed/hurt Roswaal if she didn't go for the book and attacked him directly instead.


Why did Roswaal think he stands a chance against Puck?
Because Puck in his non-berserk form is not stronger than Roswaal. Puck can't seem to return to normal once going to berserk form (never has in any of the loops), so Roswaal was banking on beating his chibi form.


And are they dead now?
No.


And the blonde witch is now Emilia's real mom or what was that scene about? I interpreted it that way, because she didnt want her to see the face of a mother that isn't Fortuna's.
Possible, but might be a red herring.

[KrayZ33]

Ep24


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So honest question, I've mentioned this in the other seasons too, but aren't Subarus speeches completely random, extremely long and they feel like they make nearly no sense?
Not sure if this is intentional or if they always go completely over my head. I literally didn't like a single speech of his. They always feel extremely dumb and repetitive.

[MFauli]

ROFL, I almost burst out in laughter when the little maid just slapped Otto to tell him that there's something happen. xD So casually, like it's totally normal to slap someone for notification, roflcopter.

Episode felt really long, not in a negative way, just unexpectedly so.

Man, I'm already dreading the wait for season 3. Is anything known whether that one is planned already or are we in for another multi-year wait? :/



So honest question, I've mentioned this in the other seasons too, but aren't Subarus speeches completely random, extremely long and they feel like they make nearly no sense?
Not sure if this is intentional or if they always go completely over my head. I literally didn't like a single speech of his. They always feel extremely dumb and repetitive.

Tbh these speeches never make much sense. Let's remember Naruto, eh. The issue is that the people Subaru is talking to are too stubborn and Subaru is too nice, so it quickly repeats itself to some degree. I agree that this speech was especially "whatever", because it almost felt like another "i love you" speech, except I knew that cannot be it. But it was a good episode overall, so I can forgive it.

[DarthEnderX]

So honest question, I've mentioned this in the other seasons too, but aren't Subarus speeches completely random, extremely long and they feel like they make nearly no sense?GOD YES! It feels like half the time he's just stringing random shonen lines together and hoping that the end result is "target inspired!"

And they just go ON and ON until the target finally just acquiesces out of what I can only assume is confusion and boredom...

[KrayZ33]

Tbh these speeches never make much sense. Let's remember Naruto, eh. The issue is that the people Subaru is talking to are too stubborn


I actually have not even remotely the same problem with Naruto Speeches or just about any other speech in anime.
It's not like I remember most of them when I think about Naruto, but the one I do remember (the canon ones) are actually pretty neat, often very sad, and inspiring.

My all time go-to when it comes to Naruto.
Naruto talking to Zabuza to convince him that Haku gave his all and everything to him.
Zabuza realising that even Ninja's aren't tools, they are human too.

Or in Grimgar, I completely understood what is happening and what is being meant with certain statements and/or certain visuals during these speeches and discussions. I think the scene where MC spoke to priest-character's ghost for the last time was one of the most amazing dialogue scenes in my opinion, it had this nice "is he actually only talking to himself" touch to it, where you start to realize that the priest-character never said *anything* MC didn't already know himself. It's as if that "ghost" was just MC giving an image to his inner monologue

So...I really can't say that they never make much sense, because they actually do make sense in other shows in my opinion.

I have *serious* problems following Subaru whenever he talks and it's the most problematic when he tries to hold an argument or speech. I'm not exxagerating when I'm saying that I do nearly not understand a single thing other than "I like you, be my friend" or "I love you" but that's something I understood from his actions more so than from what he is saying in that situation.

If we take this speech as an example. All I understood (or think I understand) is that Subura kinda thinks Beatrice is looking for a lover? And he obviously says no because he wants Emilia.
But does Beatrice even look for someone like that? And not just a friend or a very dear person? I think she made it pretty clear that she is scared of befriending someone, because that would mean she might lose him/her again.
It seemed to me that she needed a reason to get out of the libary but no one would "free" her from her promise.
And Subaru didn't free her either, it's more or less him convincing her that she should just do it herself, isn't it? I really don't know.
I really, really, don't know what the heck he was talking about all the time.
I know the purpose, but I do never actually understand his arguments or reasoning.
He is a horribly written character in my book because he is always *super* annoying.
I always blamed his insecure character for this (as seen during his butler-training) in the past but it never gets any better.
I really understand that he goes through freaking hell all the time and everyone would just break if they had to endure what he is enduring. But it's all so weird whenever he tries to argue something.

[DarthEnderX]

If we take this speech as an example. All I understood (or think I understand) is that Subura kinda thinks Beatrice is looking for a lover? And he obviously says no because he wants Emilia.The fuck?! That was not my takeaway at all!

I read it as "Echidna gave you a made-up prophecy to keep you busy/safe/doing her bidding after she was gone. You want me to be "that person" to fulfill her prophecy. But I can't be "that person" because there IS no "that person" because the prophecy is made-up bullshit."

[MFauli]

Again, I agree that Subaru's speeches are kind weak. BUT: That makes them more realistic, more relatable. I often think about how I would never be as eloquent in the heat of a dramatic situation (or ever ...) to shout out some perfect speech. I'd also use a lot of generic stuff and repeat it in different ways. And to be fair: Irl that would probably work - or have no chance to work, because irl people don't require a "trigger" to their tragic past, lol.

[KrayZ33]

The fuck?! That was not my takeaway at all!

I read it as "Echidna gave you a made-up prophecy to keep you busy/safe/doing her bidding after she was gone. You want me to be "that person" to fulfill her prophecy. But I can't be "that person" because there IS no "that person" because the prophecy is made-up bullshit."

I'm talking about what Subaru thought Beatrice is trying to say.
I don't think he ever understood what Beatrice is actually looking for, until maybe right at the end - probably - when he mentioned that Beatrice is always sitting right in front of that door as if she is waiting for someone to drag her out of the library.

His speech was basically so unmemorable and just pointless brabble that I literally can't remember anything other than him "rejecting" her and that part at the end.

If he understood that Beatrice is just supposed to choose "that person" instead of "that person" actually showing up, I'd have guessed he would choose a different approach and line of argument.
Like..

"why do you think the book is empty"
He made that very same question in one episode but said "BECAUSE MAYBE IT'S BROKEN DUUUUUUUHRRRR".... Seriously?
What about
"maybe you are supposed to fill the pages yourself"
or
"the future is for you to decide"

I don't know, anything but his: "IT'S PROBABLY BROKEN!"
I think he said that even though Echidna told him before that she herself gave Beatrice that order just to see whom Beatrice would choose to be "that person"....unless the order of events in my head is wrong.

[DarthEnderX]

"why do you think the book is empty"
He made that very same question in one episode but said "BECAUSE MAYBE IT'S BROKEN DUUUUUUUHRRRR".... Seriously?
What about
"maybe you are supposed to fill the pages yourself"
or
"the future is for you to decide"Or, "Your mother is an incomprehensible witch and she's fucking with you."

[shinta|hikari]

Subaru is long winded and rambles a bit, but I've never had any issue understanding his points. He isn't eloquent or concise, but the message makes sense for the situation.

In this episode, Subaru basically said:
1. I can't help you because I suck, but I do need you and your help because you are capable, so help me instead of dying.
2. I am not "that person" you are waiting for, but fuck that, choose me anyway because I will make things fun for you.
3. You are a kind girl, and I know that because of all you've done for me. And I refuse to abandon you.
4. I may not be immortal and will die like you are worried about, but I'll make our time together so memorable it will be worth the pain of that loss.
5. You seem to think you've lost purpose because the book is blank, so let me provide you a new purpose, being my ally, instead.
6. Despite your bravado, you have always been lonely and wanted someone to take you out of this library. Let me be the one to do that.

I wrote all that down from memory, so I didn't have any trouble remembering what he said.

[MFauli]

Subaru is long winded and rambles a bit, but I've never had any issue understanding his points. He isn't eloquent or concise, but the message makes sense for the situation.

In this episode, Subaru basically said:
1. I can't help you because I suck, but I do need you and your help because you are capable, so help me instead of dying.
2. I am not "that person" you are waiting for, but fuck that, choose me anyway because I will make things fun for you.
3. You are a kind girl, and I know that because of all you've done for me. And I refuse to abandon you.
4. I may not be immortal and will die like you are worried about, but I'll make our time together so memorable it will be worth the pain of that loss.
5. You seem to think you've lost purpose because the book is blank, so let me provide you a new purpose, being my ally, instead.
6. Despite your bravado, you have always been lonely and wanted someone to take you out of this library. Let me be the one to do that.

I wrote all that down from memory, so I didn't have any trouble remembering what he said.

Your memory is impressive. No sarcasm.

[shinta|hikari]

You know, you seem like a nice person, when I'm drunk.

[KrayZ33]

Subaru is long winded and rambles a bit, but I've never had any issue understanding his points. He isn't eloquent or concise, but the message makes sense for the situation.

In this episode, Subaru basically said:
1. I can't help you because I suck, but I do need you and your help because you are capable, so help me instead of dying.
2. I am not "that person" you are waiting for, but fuck that, choose me anyway because I will make things fun for you.
3. You are a kind girl, and I know that because of all you've done for me. And I refuse to abandon you.
4. I may not be immortal and will die like you are worried about, but I'll make our time together so memorable it will be worth the pain of that loss.
5. You seem to think you've lost purpose because the book is blank, so let me provide you a new purpose, being my ally, instead.
6. Despite your bravado, you have always been lonely and wanted someone to take you out of this library. Let me be the one to do that.

I wrote all that down from memory, so I didn't have any trouble remembering what he said.

When I really invest time analysing it, I'm getting roughly the same stuff, but I'm never getting it when he is actually saying it. Except for the "I suck and I'm helpless" part (because he actually says that all the time in every speech)
I have no idea why I'm not getting this when he is actually holding these speeches.

I had no idea what he was talking about when he confessed to Emilia ~10 episodes earlier either.

"I'm suffering for you here, at least try to look as cute as I hoped you would!" - That line for example... "What the fuck..?" is all that came into my mind when I read that.
Or when Emilia complains that he is selfish and je doesn't think about her feelings at all when he gets in trouble all the time, he says:
"How WOULD I know? I'm just doing it! I want to look good in front of you"
This would actually work if Emilia wouldn't constantly warn Subaru to not do it, so he actually does know.
I have the same issues with his random references and emotional outburst (especially in season 1), even when he is happy

[shinta|hikari]

It's because he rambles a lot and repeats a lot of the same ideas. It also doesn't help that he is bad at explaining himself and chooses vague words and analogies.

I work in IT so I'm used to such speeches, though, so it only makes sense that I understand him.

[Buffalobiian]

I glaze over a bit when Subaru rambles as well. He doesn't have much as far as substance goes. He reminds me of companies that sell a vision or an idea rather than a product. I guess Subaru does deliver results after exchanging his lives, so I'll give him that.

Take away for me this episode:

Roswaal's book is destroyed.
Snow bunny is here
Clone woman is gone
Betty about to own bunny

And that's about it.

[shinta|hikari]

Season ender:






BETTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I think this is the first time I actually thought Emilia was cute.

[MFauli]

No tease for the future? Surely this won't be the last season ;>

Was a nice episode, even though Roswaal being forgiven is typical anime really. Irl he'd be locked up. Not that I care much, it just came to my mind.

I kept wondering if it's even socially accepted that the knight and the queen-candidate engage in romantic relationships, but apparently it's fine.

Best scene ofc: Emilia thinking she got pregnant from a kiss. Just literal wow. I'd love to see a follow up scene after someone educated her on how babies are made ;>

And I can't wait for a scene where the other knights meet Subarua again who's now an equal in rank, officially.

[DarthEnderX]

I'm so fucking glad that arc is finally over.

I can't believe we spent an entire double season on one time loop...WITH NO REM!

[MFauli]

Season 3 Episode 1:

Three things I wanna say:

- I guess it's a good thing this was a triple-or even quadruple pilot epiosde, because ... not a whole lot happened for all that runtime. I couldn't imagine having to wait 3-4 weeks to get the point where this episode ended.

- the designs for new characters, especially girls, keep getting worse. The songstress is probably the ugliest, most questionable design since the demon loli from Mushoku Tensei. No curves, flat beyond flat, and yet showing so much skin. Is the author a known pedophile like the one of Made in Abyss? Because I'd believe it.

- I'm annoyed that Subaru didn't INSTANTLY call for Reinhardt when the new bishop said she's an arc bishop. Subaru had NO reason to assume it was a joke. And while he might have not been able to call Reinhardt himself, he was standing next to Dumber who is established to be able to call Reinhardt within 5 seconds from anywhere in town.

One more note: I feel like the artwork isn't as pretty as the previous two seasons, but maybe I'm wrong. And as much as I appreciate boobs, Emilia's boobs look weird, like they're bigger AND she's wearing dresses that really push them out. Feels out of character for her.

Reinhard's dad being scum is a fun surprise, but I feel like the whole reconciliation arc between Reinhard and Wilhelm is something stupid that could be solved with one simple talk. Not a fan of such contrieved "honor and pride"-based problems.

Anyway, the ending was okay. But I was annoyed by how easily Subaru got into her trap.

[DarthEnderX]

That Bishop scene went on FOREVER.

[Buffalobiian]

Beatrice carried this episode. Mimi did some assisting.

The Sun Princess is interesting in that she's not trying to do anything productive like the other candidates. She's in the race out of pure charisma.

[MFauli]

Season 3 Episode 2:

"As my 79th wife" LOL

Anyway, I'll spare everyone and myself a long winded rant about Subaru being absolute shit at going about this fight. CLEARLY, he has enough time to warn them about what's about to happen, so why not do that with Reinhard? But .. whatever.

However, one big bs must be mentioned: Emilia's fighting prowess got a CRAZY upgrade if she's holding up against Sirius similiarly to Reinhard before. Reinhard, however, looked awefully weak. Not sure if that was intentional and we'll learn that the distress with his grandfather and father's situation weakens him or something.

Also: Sirius is Emilia's mom that we saw in the season 2-flashbacks, right? Silver hair, violet iris, and loves Beetlegeuse, taking his last name even. I don't know any light novels or whatever, but that's my theory for now.

Anyway. I would hope Subaru does another attempt, this time telling Beako to keep watch of the surroundings for when Regulus comes, while telling Reinhard to not kill Sirius, but catch her and make her immovable. However, I fear that there will be a new checkpoint now right after Regulus kidnaps Emilia.

PS: Oh, and one final note: If an anime had Sirius' and Lusbel's genders reversed, there'd be a huge outrage.

[Buffalobiian]

Reinhardt wasn't weak. Emilia was just strangely competent at melee combat here. Sirius was probably more straight forward with Emilia in this fight aside from pulling the hostage card.

I was pleased that they pulled the Reinhardt card early but then realised he wasn't the answer. Interesting that he nerfs all mana users around him.


PS: Oh, and one final note: If an anime had Sirius' and Lusbel's genders reversed, there'd be a huge outrage.

Not really, no.

[DarthEnderX]

PS: Oh, and one final note: If an anime had Sirius' and Lusbel's genders reversed, there'd be a huge outrage.I mean, she's already a pretty despicable villain. Making her a child-molestery dude would be sort of a hat-on-a-hat.

[MFauli]

Eh, Reinhard still COULD be the solution here, Subaru would just have to inform him about Sirius' ability. Then Reinhard could catch her/bind her/knock her unconscious and things could proceed from there. Meanwhile Betty could be on alert for Regulus at the edge of the plaza where Reinhard doesn't impact her magic.

From a gamer pov, Subaru could keep trying lots of things. But the author didn't want to show us 20-30 repititions and it's clear he wanted a certain outcome which is: Emilia gets kidnapped.

Btw I was surprised about the time skip of several months. Subaru doing a training parcour is nice and all, but, ya know, Rem is waiting, lol. Feels like they've been doing nothing to investigate and were lucky that the other royal candidate invited them with a hint at another Arc Bishop.

[shinta|hikari]

Based on Subaru's reaction to info about Gluttony, he, at the very least, was trying his best, but with no info, what can he do? He is clearly desperate.

I do agree that Reinhard is the easy way out here. Just tell Emilia to go to Reinhard with the information because she runs faster and Reinhard will take it from there. Somehow, he is immune to this soul reaching ability.

My main complaint here is how people are randomly fine at random times from this ability with no consistent pattern so far.

[Buffalobiian]

My main complaint here is how people are randomly fine at random times from this ability with no consistent pattern so far.

From memory she used it every single time with good effect except for the final run where she was so enraged with Emilia that she didn't use it. Reinhardt is immune to it, and seems to snap others out of it if he touches them.

[MFauli]

Do we know WHY Reinhard is immune to it? Subaru seemed to know that he'd be immune, too. Maybe that would be a handy ability for Subaru himself :>

[DarthEnderX]

Do we know WHY Reinhard is immune to it?They just told us. He disrupts magic around him.

[shinta|hikari]

From memory she used it every single time with good effect except for the final run where she was so enraged with Emilia that she didn't use it. Reinhardt is immune to it, and seems to snap others out of it if he touches them.

Not exactly. There are times when Subaru was fine and then got caught, while other times he was immediately caught. What is the difference?

Also, if Reinhardt is immune because of mana suction and can snap Subaru out of it just by touching him, why did all of them die when Reinhard killed the wrath girl? Reinhardt distanced himself from Subaru after snapping him out, but Subaru kept his wits. That means his mana disruption works even at a distance. But that was clearly not the case when everyone, including Subaru, got cut in half at the end. Rachin also got caught earlier than Subaru despite receiving the same touch from Reinhardt. It is just inconsistent.

[Buffalobiian]

I agree about the inconsistency in terms of when Subaru gets affected.

As for Reinhardt, they mentioned that he makes mana blindly follow him (rendering spirit and spell users useless), but Betty said that the hypnosis was more spiritual interference like a curse or hex rather than a spell. I would say that Reinhardt's mana-disrupting ability doesn't explain his own immunity against the hypnosis, and also isn't the basis for why he snaps others out of it by touching. It's something else.

But yeah, I'll agree that there's not enough information for us to make sense of everything and the timing as it stands is inconsistent. To me, most hypnosis stuff comes down to willpower, which gets written into the "whatever goes" power scaling.

[shinta|hikari]

As for Reinhardt, they mentioned that he makes mana blindly follow him (rendering spirit and spell users useless), but Betty said that the hypnosis was more spiritual interference like a curse or hex rather than a spell. I would say that Reinhardt's mana-disrupting ability doesn't explain his own immunity against the hypnosis, and also isn't the basis for why he snaps others out of it by touching. It's something else.

This is very possible as well. Based on loli's explanation, this makes the most sense. Otherwise, Al Shamak should have worked because it separates the target from the world itself, like the rabbits. The wrath hypnosis isn't a mana spell but like an innate ability that transcends the world's rules.

[MFauli]

I agree about the inconsistency in terms of when Subaru gets affected.

As for Reinhardt, they mentioned that he makes mana blindly follow him (rendering spirit and spell users useless), but Betty said that the hypnosis was more spiritual interference like a curse or hex rather than a spell. I would say that Reinhardt's mana-disrupting ability doesn't explain his own immunity against the hypnosis, and also isn't the basis for why he snaps others out of it by touching. It's something else.

But yeah, I'll agree that there's not enough information for us to make sense of everything and the timing as it stands is inconsistent. To me, most hypnosis stuff comes down to willpower, which gets written into the "whatever goes" power scaling.

This is what I thought, too. The effect of the gospel is not just mere magic, it's something different, but somehow Reinhard is immune to it. Therefore I think Subaru should try to find out why and if he can be immune, too.

Btw. something completely different and unimportant, but: After seeing Subaru's training parcour, I wondered whether Subaru can actually grow as strong as Reinhard or Wilhelm, or at least somewhat superhumanly powerful physically OR if his body is bound to the laws of his original world. Like, can he train enough to jump 5 meters high or is that simply impossible for someone from our real world? Would love to find that out.

[shinta|hikari]

He is clearly bound by normal limits. The others are elite of the elite even within their world. What makes Subaru able to compete is his return by death ability. He is utter trash otherwise.

[MFauli]

Season 3 Episode 3:

Too many protagonists now. Makes me feel too anxious, because only Subaru can return by death. I'm expecting the worst for Otto's fate :/

I still think Subaru should try to repeat the initial encounter, but that won't happen and by now the reset point has probably moved forward.

Wondering how Pride can actually be defeated. We've seen how overpowered he is in the flashback last season. Feels like Reinhard is the only match.

Favorite scene: When totally-not-Emilia's-aunt fell in love with Subaru because he used Betelgeuse's technique. :D When I saw that she hadn't killed anyone at this point, I was hoping for a moment that this crazy chick might join Subaru as a team, lol. Bummer it didn't happen.

[shinta|hikari]

Season 3 Episode 3:
I still think Subaru should try to repeat the initial encounter, but that won't happen and by now the reset point has probably moved forward.


All in all, this was an amazingly good outcome for them. No one died, Betty just needs mana, and Subaru is just injured. Pride taking Emilia was inevitable. He was too powerful to stop. Even if it didn't happen now, he would've taken her later, so might as well let him keep her safe from Wrath for now until Reinhardt can help out.

[Buffalobiian]

Favorite scene

Mine was Mimi setting up to allow Garf to cry. I was mildly surprised that she was a girl, since I've only recognised her as a kid.

[shinta|hikari]

Gotta say, it's weird seeing a child-sized person with a childlike mentality and way of speaking try to seduce Garf, even though canonically she is 14-15.

[MFauli]

Gotta say, it's weird seeing a child-sized person with a childlike mentality and way of speaking try to seduce Garf, even though canonically she is 14-15.

Yeah, not sure how that's supposed to work. And she's not growing anymore, right?

[shinta|hikari]

I have no idea. I checked the wiki, and the height seems static, although different depending on source material:
2123

As for why they shortened her in the LN and anime, who the fuck knows.

That height difference is the same as mine and James Harden LOL.

[MFauli]

Season 3 Episode 4:

ROFL. Ending the episode in a way to get woke-tards outraged on social media :D "Are you a virgin? That's all that matters". Lol. What a question and thing to say.

As for the episode, I'm still bothered that the story is getting split up so much. Subaru is the only one who can reset time, so if, say Otto is dead already, nobody can bring him back :/ So don't show me Otto >_>

On one hand I like the progress we made, on the other hand it feels like this could all be done much more intelligent. Especially if Subaru was willing to kill himself. So many people were already killed.

Also, the slimmer, sword-using cult-member is totally Wilhelm's dead wife, isn't she? At least she's the only one I'd accept being able to keep up with Wilhelm.

The dragon design was kinda nice. It was somewhat generic, but then also had weird traits and at the end went full "demon dragon". Creepy.

Not sure about Julius, Subaru and Crusch being the forward-team. Also anime, don't make me ship SubaruaXCrusch.

[DarthEnderX]

ROFL. Ending the episode in a way to get woke-tards outraged on social mediaNobody asked, incel.


The dragon design was kinda nice. It was somewhat generic, but then also had weird traits and at the end went full "demon dragon". Creepy.Seems like the want you to think the dragon is the Archbishop. But it feels fake. Like a puppet or something.

[Buffalobiian]

Judging from those egg sacs, there's going to be a bunch of reaminated corpses to fight.

[MFauli]

Season 3 Episode 5:

I need to get this out first: The designs of all the new female characters have been atrocious in this season. Everyone is some trashy looking loli. And now this Lugunica is just completely insufferable, both in how she looks and how she talks. Ugh.

Other than that I'm annoyed that they keep waiting for Subaru to die. Apparently he'll even survive the end of this episode, because otherwise it wouldn't make sense that we saw Felt send Reinhard to the fight. But with all the people being turned into monster flies and the town being flooded, what sense is there in staying in this iteration of reality? Really would have wished for a reset already.

Best scene of the episode: Crusch's boobs getting squished. God, they looked really tasty.

[Buffalobiian]

I'm finding this season really messy. Stuff happening everywhere. I don't even remember Gluttony.

I wonder who the dragon is. Guess is going to be one of Garf's half-siblings. If so, that's pretty good insight for a kid, who just got owned but Crusch and Subaru but realise they're not the bad guys and should be saved.

[DarthEnderX]

And now this Lugunica is just completely insufferable, both in how she looks and how she talks. Ugh.All of the Archbishops are insufferable. They're ridiculously cruel, loud and annoying.


Other than that I'm annoyed that they keep waiting for Subaru to die.Cause...that's how the power works.

He's just unlucky that Lust turns people into monsters instead of killing them.

[DarthEnderX]

56

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Having regeneration is a real problem for Subaru, because it means it's WAY harder to trigger a redo.

[MFauli]

I don't understand anything that's going on rn. Too many people died, Subaru should have resetted ages ago.

My biggest criticism is that the multiple povs don't work for this series. We get to see so many different characters' viewpoints, but Subaru is the one who resets all of them when he dies. So either he's not gonna die for dumb reasons anymore, or we'll see a lot of meaningless stuff.

And Regulus is just the weirdest character ever. Literally "toxic masculinity" as a character.

[shinta|hikari]

He is not gonna die and reset the past few episodes. The reset point will either be right after he swears to save everyone or a little after that.

[DarthEnderX]

My biggest criticism is that the multiple povs don't work for this series. We get to see so many different characters' viewpoints, but Subaru is the one who resets all of them when he dies. So either he's not gonna die for dumb reasons anymore, or we'll see a lot of meaningless stuff.It's the former. Not everything is getting fixed this time. Not sure why you're having trouble accepting it.

[MFauli]

Episode 57:

That was kind of a whatever-speech. It was nice and uplifting, sure, but I don't understand what it really did towards defeating the Sin Archbishops. I expected more of a direct provoation, like "You will never marry Emilia, Regulus, because I'm the only man for her!" and such.

Also, if the purpose of the speech was to get people's mind in a more positive spirit, why not have the songstress sing into the mic? That's what I was sure was gonna happen.

Oh well. Reinhard appearing at the end was kinda lame, because ... duh, of course, you'll have to help, my friend.

3 things I'm still wondering:

- why didn't Emilia just run? "For the safety of the other wives" cannot be a good reason when Regulus will casually kill them for the slightest, random thing anyway.
- so Subaru is still infected with Lust's dragon blood. That's bound to cause some bad suprise at some point.
- how tf do you fight Regulus? Every scene of him fighting so far has been him doing overpowered telekinetic bs that's impossible to dodge and he himself appears to be invincible.

Also, kinda disappointed the witches from season 2 are completely absent in season 3. Would be better writing if stuff that happened earlier still is relevant now.

[DarthEnderX]

Taaaaaaaalking.

[MFauli]

Taaaaaaaalking.


Yeah, way too much build up for little pay off.

Btw did Emilia hit her head at the start of the beginning or did her boob growth reduce her IQ? I find her honestly dumb at many times in this 3rd season. Starting with the "I don't know what a virgin is", but even further she talks like someone who was just born :/

[Buffalobiian]

Yeah the walk was boring and uninspiring for me.

I know Subaru is great at talking out of his ass. Reinhardt is now here to actually put some muscles behind those words.

Subaru's winning ability is that he can figure out the enemy's plan/mechanics and plan beforehand with each subsequent life. Right now that hasn't happened and I'm really left with "well what good is he for?"

As for the dragon blood, we've established that it doesn't work anywhere else other than his leg, so dying is still easy.

Priscilla is my favourite character right now. She's just built different in a slightly less OP way than Reinhardt is. She's also selfish, so that makes her more interesting than him.

Regulus going "I knew you'd look good in white".. like Emilia hasn't been dressed in mostly white forever.

[shinta|hikari]

I actually got teary eyed while listening to the speech, not because of some unique content or masterful wordsmithing, but because it was exactly what I needed to hear more than a week after the US elections. Things are very bleak with signs of worse to come, but I looked beside me to my wife, who was planning her 3 "hear me out" cake picks for her incoming birthday, and realized that I don't have time to be depressed or to give up. Gotta fucking fight.

[MFauli]

I wonder how they're gonna split forces for the 4 towers. Subaru would want to go to the wedding aka where Regulus is but I see NO way of him beating him. Even with Betty with him (who.he's tasked to.watch for), I don't see it. It must be Reinhard. Lust I see getting a revenge fight against Crusch, accompanied by Felix who might be able to somehow suppress the dragon blood effect. Not sure if those 2 are enough for Lust. Wrath I see either unexpectedly crash the wedding or attend it as a spectator, so Emilia would fight her again, maybe with her feline spirit awakening again. That'd leave Gluttony for Wilhelm, Garfiel and the Wolfguy, with Wilhelm taking on thar cloaked girl again who I'm still sure is his wife. My hope is that Reinhard's father has a change of heart and comes to help them, when things start going in the wrong direction.


I actually got teary eyed while listening to the speech, not because of some unique content or masterful wordsmithing, but because it was exactly what I needed to hear more than a week after the US elections. Things are very bleak with signs of worse to come, but I looked beside me to my wife, who was planning her 3 "hear me out" cake picks for her incoming birthday, and realized that I don't have time to be depressed or to give up. Gotta fucking fight.

Rofl, that actually kinda fits the mood. And Ivanka is Trump-Regulus' Emilia. 💀🐧

[shinta|hikari]

Can't they all just gang up on each enemy 1 by 1? Is there a practical reason to split up here?

[DarthEnderX]

I'm curious if Subaru is going to get more of the Archbishop's powers as he defeats them.


I actually got teary eyed while listening to the speech, not because of some unique content or masterful wordsmithing, but because it was exactly what I needed to hear more than a week after the US elections.OMG you too! I was thinking about it the whole time!


Can't they all just gang up on each enemy 1 by 1? Is there a practical reason to split up here?I assumed each of the towers controlled a water gate. So if you take out one of them first, the others can flood the city. You have to take them all out at once to prevent that.

[MFauli]

Hm, maybe Subaru already has the dragon blood-ability? But I feel like all those new abilities would make him too powerful.



I assumed each of the towers controlled a water gate. So if you take out one of them first, the others can flood the city. You have to take them all out at once to prevent that.

Yep, same thought.

[shinta|hikari]

I assumed each of the towers controlled a water gate. So if you take out one of them first, the others can flood the city. You have to take them all out at once to prevent that.

I thought based on the good guys' assessment that these enemies don't give a shit about them because they've never had to. I guess that can change if one of their archbishop allies die, but I don't really see these guys as caring for their teammates at all. They all seem like berserkers.

[DarthEnderX]

I guess that can change if one of their archbishop allies die, but I don't really see these guys as caring for their teammates at all.Yeah, but after a couple of the Archbishops are killed, the remaining ones might go "Oh, these guys are dangerous apparently."

Sloth getting killed could just be a fluke. But if a couple more die, then they might start to get serious.

[shinta|hikari]

With that in mind, my suggested plan is to tackle the most dangerous one with their entire team first, with Subaru ready to suicide if things go awry. When one of the archbishops are dead, the rest can split into two teams, with one being mainly Reinhard, and the rest on the other. Sloth and Lust are moving together, right?

[DarthEnderX]

I forget, how many other characters know about Return By Death?

[shinta|hikari]

None, except the witches. Even Roswaal only deduced he is able to loop, not that he does it by dying.

[DarthEnderX]

Keeping that a secrets is one of the smartest things Subaru has done.

[shinta|hikari]

He can't reveal it. He dies when he does and resets. He's tried a bunch of times and failed except for Echidna.

[MFauli]

He can't reveal it. He dies when he does and resets. He's tried a bunch of times and failed except for Echidna.

He revealed it once to Emilia, but then Emilia died, wasn't it like that?

[DarthEnderX]

He can't reveal it. He dies when he does and resets. He's tried a bunch of times and failed except for Echidna.
He revealed it once to Emilia, but then Emilia died, wasn't it like that?
I forgot all about that.

[shinta|hikari]

He revealed it once to Emilia, but then Emilia died, wasn't it like that?

Not sure but might have happened. The bottom line is he can't reveal it.

[Buffalobiian]

Priscilla will be hitting up one of the towers I reckon, though it's not like they can plan around her.

Not sure what the deal is with Crusch. She's got dragon blood on her face which is making her ugly, but hard to say how this is affecting her performance. We know she looks more ugly, but her servants are acting like she's incapacitated with all the hiding etc. Subaru's leg gives him something to block with, so maybe Crusch can just facetank stuff literally now.

[MFauli]

Do we know Crusch has become ugly? We haven't seen her since.

About Priscilla ... I wonder how far her "power" goes. As of right now, she's a literal cheat character, even moreso than Reinhard. Could you just drop her in front of Regulus and she'd somehow win? hm

[Buffalobiian]

I've seen what the blood does to other people, and what it did to Subaru's leg.

Now everyone's hiding Crusch and saying it's such a shame and that she used to be good looking.

That means she's now a facetanking ugly mofo, assuming she had an affinity for dragon blood in the same manner that Subaru had.

[shinta|hikari]

It's the anime stereotype of "Girls care so much about their face and beauty that they are devastated if they get scarred," even though they are literally almost dying every few episodes.

[MFauli]

Episode 58:

Wtf is this shit, did Emilia just drop another couple iq points? She doesn't know what love is? She cannot give Subaru an answer?

Could you pls kill her, Regulus? :/

At least they're getting at it quickly, hope next episode is a banger.

[DarthEnderX]

I love that Subaru is just like "H@x is coming with me."


It sucks that Gluttony has the weakest group. That's the most important fight.


Convenient he can absorb Crusch's dragon blood. Doesn't seem to debilitate him the way it does her either.

[MFauli]

It sucks that Gluttony has the weakest group. That's the most important fight.

Yeah. Honestly, would have been cooler if Subaru had asked Reinhard to save his dear Emilia, because he himself cannot come. He must fight Gluttony to save someone who needs him even more.


Convenient he can absorb Crusch's dragon blood. Doesn't seem to debilitate him the way it does her either.


I'm curious how serious this dragon blood is after all. Also, lol @ acting like Crusch has become so ugly prior to this episode. A bit of darker, veiny skin is still infinitely better than being turnd into a literal monster fly, lol.

Also, there was a joke missing in that scene: When Crusch told Subaru to stop absorbing her curse, Subaru should have answered "don't get me wrong, Crusch, I'm not only doing this for you. I'm also doing it because I get to touch your magnificent boobs that way!" :D

[MFauli]

Wait, was that episode be supposed to be some mid-season finale or why is LiveChart telling me it's gonna be 72 days until the next episode?!