Naruto Chapter 455 Spoiler

[Vegechan]

I just came across this pic, and thought "HOLY CRAP." Normally, I wouldn't make topics like this, but this NEEDS to be shared.

This is a warning, If you do NOT want to be spoiled, do NOT click on the following link.

For those who want a little intrigue and have more questions than answers, click away.

Spoiler Alert (http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9267/spoilers.jpg)

All I have to say is "Well I'll be damned."

[The Chancellor]

I just came across this pic, and thought "HOLY CRAP." Normally, I wouldn't make topics like this, but this NEEDS to be shared.

This is a warning, If you do NOT want to be spoiled, do NOT click on the following link.

For those who want a little intrigue and have more questions than answers, click away.

Spoiler Alert (http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9267/spoilers.jpg)

All I have to say is "Well I'll be damned." I told you!! Now I'm not saying he's Madara (I'll let that one go) but I think this brew ha ha can finally be put to rest. The man is an uchiha.

[Uberbaka]

Oh for fucks sake.

[Marik]

Yeah, I saw that earlier. Here's the cleaned and scanlated version

http://home.comcast.net/~supergotenks/yo.png (http://home.comcast.net/%7Esupergotenks/yo.png)

[RasenDori]

...sigh...
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...I still don't think hes Madara...

(After recovering from depression)

OH MY GOD!!!!
http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org216630.jpg
Who would have guess it??!!!! Naruto was Danzou all along!!!!!

EDIT: Ok Madara = Danzou Theorist. You have legitimate fuel. I won't fight it anymore.

[XanBcoo]

I got mad as hell and was just about fed up with this manga before I read Rasendori's post.

That was a close one.

[The Chancellor]

...sigh...
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...I still don't think hes Madara...

EDIT: Ok Madara = Danzou Theorist. You have legitimate fuel. I won't fight it anymore.

(After recovering from depression)

OH MY GOD!!!!
http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org216630.jpg
Who would have guess it??!!!! Naruto was Danzou all along!!!!! You're funny. First you level with us and give our theories a chance. Then you spit on us with giving us a fake spoiler trying to tell us that the Danzou pic is made up. Funny man.

[RasenDori]

um... actually... they're both real.

If you look at the bottom right of the Danzou pic and the bottom left of the Naruto pic, you'll see that they are adjacent pages.

[Abdula]

Nice. I was hoping Danzo would turn out to be an Uchiha. Now I really have something to look forward to in the next chapter.

[Assertn]

Well....actually Danzou can't possibly be an Uchiha....

I imagine Danzou has been a resident of Konoha his whole life, in which case everyone would know if he was born into the Uchiha clan. The beginning of the series established that Sasuke and Itachi were the only known surviving members of the clan.

Unless Madara stole the original Danzou's identity at some point... that sharingan has to be an implant. I wouldn't put it past him, either, if he's looking for Orochimaru's research for other body manipulations.

Once again Kishimoto proves to us that the most likely prediction is the most obvious prediction.

[Vegechan]

Just throwing it out there, why can't it be Obi's other eye? Eh? EH?

[Abdula]

Well....actually Danzou can't possibly be an Uchiha....

I imagine Danzou has been a resident of Konoha his whole life, in which case everyone would know if he was born into the Uchiha clan. The beginning of the series established that Sasuke and Itachi were the only known surviving members of the clan.

Unless Madara stole the original Danzou's identity at some point... that sharingan has to be an implant. I wouldn't put it past him, either, if he's looking for Orochimaru's research for other body manipulations.

Once again Kishimoto proves to us that the most likely prediction is the most obvious prediction.
Aw man I just managed to convince myself that their might be something to look forward to in the next chapter and you had to go and ruin it right. :p

I agree Danzo can't possibly be an Uchiha but it's pretty obvious that this entire series revolves around the Uchiha or more specifically the sharingan.

That being said, it seems the only way Kishi is able to let the readers know that one of his characters is more than just a secondary character that will never amount to anything more than being a cheer leader on the sidelines. Or one of those background characters that gets their moment in the spotlight only to burnout in a couple arcs, if they even make it that far. Is by popping a sharingan in their eye socket, and this being the third time, the big reveal is becoming redundant.

[Rikudo]

Danzou can't be an Uchiha, It looks like his sharingan is permanently activated just like Kakashi. The probable reason why he looks frail aside from being old is he overused his sharingan at one point and damage his body.

On the other hand, I'm interested to find out which hidden village Danzou's attackers are from. It would be awesome if they're from Konoha.

[samsonlonghair]

An implant just like Kakashi's. This makes sense with his link to Orochimaru.
Those Bandages on Naruto's face are because the cloud nins effed him up.

[shinta|hikari]

Why does he even need bandages? Can't he just auto-heal those scratches?

[samsonlonghair]

I guess it takes him a little while to heal. He needs bandages so he can have a heart-to-heart with Sai and talk about his feelings for sasuke or some such crap.

[Abdula]

Why does he even need bandages? Can't he just auto-heal those scratches?
Scratches (http://anime-and-manga.info/naruto/index.php/naruto-455-pics/naruto-455-spoiler-pics.jpg?action=big&size=resize&fromthumbnail=true)? Not scratches at all.

[TwisT]

Well for those wanting it to be Obito's eye could be right. I mean ANBU do retrieve and dispose of ninja corpses to make sure the secrets don't fall in to rival villages hands. So ANBU could have been disposed to retrieve Obitos body and then discovered that his eye was still intact enough to be used and Danzuo decided to take it for himself. But then again it could be an random Uchiha's eye since he could just have taken one form a body after Itachi slew them all. Would be funny if he revealed to Sasuke when they fight that it's his own fathers eye.

I don't think he's an Uchiha himself. Just like Kakashi he closes his other eye when he uses the Sharingan. And i can't think that any Uchiha would freely give up his eye to Danzou either.

[Yukimura]

On the subject of spoilers...

The whole chapter has already been translated (http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1442591#post1442591)

Doesn't tell us much we didn't already know, the cloudies are going to take Naruto up on his offer (obvious) and Naruto reveals some of what he learned in his internal talk with the Fourth to Kakashi and Yamato.

[shinta|hikari]

Scratches (http://anime-and-manga.info/naruto/index.php/naruto-455-pics/naruto-455-spoiler-pics.jpg?action=big&size=resize&fromthumbnail=true)? Not scratches at all.

I used that word in comparison to the other times he has been injured. He had his entire body skinned when he became the Kyuubi, and that healed up very quickly. A beat down from those ninjas are mere scratches compared to that.

[XanBcoo]

Wait, I thought those two pages posted earlier in the thread were like a joke strip or something. You mean Madara really does have the Sharingan??

Jesus fuck, this is dumb as hell.

Edit: I mean, it makes it less likely that Danzo is Madara (otherwise why would he reveal the Sharingan at all?), but giving another character the Sharingan eye insta-kill eye hax is just retarded.

[Keno]

Hello. Long time lurker here. Pretty much since the original Naruto series. Watched the anime until filler hell started, and switched to manga a few months after. Pretty long post, go easy on me. :)

I've always believed there is a connection between "Madara" and Danzou. At first, everyone was saying they were the same (some still do), and to me it sort of made some sense. Now I'm not so sure. The last few chapters felt more like the Kishimoto was trying to throw off a few of the "Madara"=Danzou theorists by putting them in adjacent panels as if he couldn't be in 2 places at once, only to give us this "surprise". I'm sure he reads the opinions of the manga's readers on forums (probably japanese forums) so he's up to date on what people think and comment.

I got 3 possible scenarios playing out. The first two being very similar and the 2nd one with 2 possible sub-scenarios.

1. Tobi "Madara" is Danzou, Danzou is Tobi "Madara"
Boring and predictable, but would still be interesting. It would be the main focus of Sasuke's story now. Either Konoha will view Sasuke as a saviour or a threat depending on Konoha's opinion on Danzou (Hokage mind you). Epic battle between Sasuke and Danzou (Evil by Konoha citizens) would make Sasuke seem like a saviour just like what Naruto did against Pain. Or Sasuke vs Danzou (Good by Konoha citizens) would make Sasuke seem evil and Naruto and company (probably siding with Sasuke after learning the truth) will also be thrown into the betrayal group.

2. Tobi "Madara" and Danzou are split personalities from the original Madara
A. This would be a little bit more interesting since it could mean they could share some past that has something to do with those sharingans. I don't remember much of what was said of the old Madara, but I believe he lost the Hokage position to the First Hokage, so Danzou's intent on being Hokage seems more like Madara to me than Tobi "Madara" who wants revenge/destruction of Konoha?. It could also lead to a very epic battle between Tobi "Madara" and Danzou.
B. Or, they (Madara) could also be trying to finally "merge" with Oro's techniques and finally rule Konoha (merged with Akatsuki and all/most tailed beasts), all while creating a "Madara" like villain for Konoha citizens to fear, Sasuke (now headed to fight the Kages!). Naruto and friends can become outcasts after learning of this as well. Shippuuden ends... Naruto could become a Jedi, and later come back save the republic from the empire with the help of Sasuke and friendship. I mean... lulz

3. Tobi "Madara" and Danzou are two different people
This feels the same as 2A. This could also be interesting, because it still feels like even if they are 2 different people, they still share something. Some past event that led to their single sharingans. It could also lead to an epic battle between the two. Don't know what kind of role can Sasuke and Naruto play into this though. This or 2A are the ones I would like the most, but probably because I have no clue how they could pan out.


And am I the only one who thinks Itachi is still alive? There was something that gave me that icky feeling that he is actually still behind the scenes somewhere. I think a Zetzu comment has something to do with it too. He's a master of illusions you know. He also seems like a mastermind kind of character. By comparison, Sasuke seems like a pawn since the very beginning of the series and I doubt he just decides to die so Sasuke can do whatever it is that Itachi wanted to accomplish. He must have wanted to do something, right? Maybe I just want his character back.. :(

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/394/06/

And BTW, to anyone that complains about Kishimoto being too predictable, I wouldn't blame him too much. Most of us have been reading his series for quite a few years, so it's reasonable that he is becoming predictable. Only the best of the best can keep being unpredictable over such long series.

[samsonlonghair]

Madara, Itachi, Obito, Sasuke, Kakashi, and Danzou.This series has way too many people with the sharingan. I still don't know how Kakashi pulled off the Mangekyo. Was that ever explained? maybe I missed that chapter.

What are we going to talk about when this chapter actually gets released?

[Vegechan]

One thing about Tobi Madara that makes me think he is somehow linked to Danzou. We still haven't seen his left eye right? What happens when Tobi Madara's left eye is normal?

Also, another thing that seems... odd about Tobi Madara is the fact that every phyiscal attack we've seen against him just phases right through him. Could indicate some weird clone or space time jutsu at play.

[Abdula]

I used that word in comparison to the other times he has been injured. He had his entire body skinned when he became the Kyuubi, and that healed up very quickly. A beat down from those ninjas are mere scratches compared to that.
Yeah but that is when Naruto is actively using the Kyuubi's power, his passive healing ability is not nearly as strong. Which is why we've seen him wrapped in bandages so often.

Madara, Itachi, Obito, Sasuke, Kakashi, and Danzou.This series has way too many people with the sharingan. I still don't know how Kakashi pulled off the Mangekyo. Was that ever explained? maybe I missed that chapter.

What are we going to talk about when this chapter actually gets released?
No Kishi never explained or even tried to address Kakashi's MS, and don't worry I'm sure we'll find something to talk about when the chapter is released.

[Kagemane_no_Jutsu]

didn't madara say he ripped out his brothers eye? if madara is still alive its possible his brother is too. Could he be the man of the hour?

[Vegechan]

You know, I never thought of that. Maybe Madara only ripped out one eye, not both. Which is why we never see Madara's left eye, because he's blind in it.

If Danzou was said brother, why is it his normal eye isn't bandaged and his Sharingan is?

Interesting theory though.

[Abdula]

*sigh *
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/398/18/


Except that Madara did take both of his brother's eyes and the reason Madara is in his current state is supposedly because of the injuries he suffered when he was defeated by Hashirama.

[Vegechan]

Hmm... Well I guess those two points do throw that idea out.

Also, I just realized, I'm even more of a moron. For some reason I've been thinking their two eyes were opposite of one another. But it's both right eyes are Sharingan, for someone reason I thought one of them had one on their left.

[The Chancellor]

Madara, Itachi, Obito, Sasuke, Kakashi, and Danzou.This series has way too many people with the sharingan. I still don't know how Kakashi pulled off the Mangekyo. Was that ever explained? maybe I missed that chapter.

What are we going to talk about when this chapter actually gets released? When this chapter gets released, I'm sure they'll be other things going on to further discuss upon other than this dead horse that we've all had many many a whack at.

And I wouldn't call six people too many. Maybe too many with a kekkai genkai family inheritance yes. And besides four of those people are proven Uchihas.

[FireEmblem]

Well, that Sharingan eye looks sort of like...demented (can't think of a better way to put it). Like it looks out of place and as if that entire side of his face is mutated. Even at that angle, the facial composition doesn't make sense to me. That would be interesting actually, if he has the Sharingan through his connection to Orochimaru's research. He could be like the beta tester for Sharingan jacking in the series.

I love how Kakashi and Yamato are going as Naruto's bodyguards/escorts haha. What a beasty team. My friend and I always said that these 3 + Shikamaru would be an unstoppable force. So here we are, 1 man short of the Konoha dream team.

[XanBcoo]

Well, that Sharingan eye looks sort of like...demented (can't think of a better way to put it). Like it looks out of place and as if that entire side of his face is mutated. Even at that angle, the facial composition doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah, I thought so too. I know it's supposed to be a dramatic angle, like a fisheye view, but it just looks really odd. Like his Sharingan eye is popping out of his face, or his other eye is sliding away.

[-=DS=-S.W.A.T3]

Wait, I thought those two pages posted earlier in the thread were like a joke strip or something. You mean Madara really does have the Sharingan??

Jesus fuck, this is dumb as hell.

Edit: I mean, it makes it less likely that Danzo is Madara (otherwise why would he reveal the Sharingan at all?), but giving another character the Sharingan eye insta-kill eye hax is just retarded.



the hell you talking about madara had the sharingan because he's an uchiha are you on crack?

[samsonlonghair]

So any guesses who is attacking Danzou? I'm assuming they're ANBU, but maybe they're foreign nins.

[XanBcoo]

the hell you talking about madara had the sharingan because he's an uchiha are you on crack?
Why would Danzo reveal to the world (at very little provocation) that he has a Sharingan if he is secretly Madara and trying his hardest to stay incognito/not draw attention to himself?

[RasenDori]

Why would Danzo reveal to the world (at very little provocation) that he has a Sharingan if he is secretly Madara and trying his hardest to stay incognito/not draw attention to himself?

Why would Danzou advocate the destruction of a clan of potential traitors if hes a member of said treacherous clan? And what "world" is he revealing that to? Those ninja attacking him are dead next chapter. (Unless of course they are subordinates attacking Danzou on orders so he can get some practice)

[Pandadice]

well uh, i just briefly skimmed over the posts, didn't read into many of them so if someone else already posted this, my bad.

does this support the Danzou is Obito theory? cause like, Kakashi took his left eye, and danzou's still got his right eye sharingan. he's got the same hair style. the only thing is that obito was kakashi's age.. which I could understand if danzou was that old. but he's like a village elder or something, which puts him at the 3rd's age, so he's actually like 2 generations older than kakashi?.. wait, he really doesn't look that old, does he?

edit: actually, no never mind. after the pain backstory, we found out that danzou was already a super strong ninja, and teamed up with hanzou. I'd say pain would have been a bit older than the 4th, which puts him an entire generation ahead of kakashi and obito..

[TwisT]

Actually he's presence is mentioned way before the 4th or the Pain and Hanzou story. He was the one that competed with the 3rd for the position of 3rd Hokage.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/284/17/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/285/17/