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Lucifus
Wed, 06-20-2007, 05:39 AM
Oh my god! How effing cruel! How could they end the episode there!? Had the countdown and everything to! Damn, I want the next ep. This episode was teh shyznite!:D

From the preview it looks like Near won that round and Light does some confessing. B)

Harima Kenji
Wed, 06-20-2007, 06:03 AM
Is the translation bad, or isn't is as good as we're used to with DN?
If the translations are bad, I'd rather wait for a better group, since DN relies for a big part on the dialogue.

Lucifus
Wed, 06-20-2007, 06:07 AM
Translations very poor in my opinion. But with the crackdown on the Fansub groups I'm not sure how long the wait will take for a decent sub. But I'm holding out for a decent sub on the next episode.

Mikami is insane......Talk about dramatic.....

Yukimura
Wed, 06-20-2007, 11:00 AM
DAMNIT! Why did Light ave to go off and gloating like that!? It pretty much guarantees his defeat :( And the preview implied that Light's plan did in fact fail, but it's not over till it's over and there's still a sliver of hope.

Something else that doesn't make sense...didn't they give Light's original Death Note to that goofy Shinigami at the end of the Mello fiasco? And if the Death NOte in the safe was Rem's (the only other one in play) then how did the rest of the team get their hands on it?

el_boss
Wed, 06-20-2007, 12:46 PM
N's "plan" was too stupid to have been his actual plan. Plans don't get anymore consistent than that. "Oh shit he still had a couple of spaces left on the previous page, I guess were fucked". Stupidest plan ever.

Uberbaka
Wed, 06-20-2007, 01:59 PM
That translation wasn't that bad to be honest. If you're proficient in english you should be easily able to piece together the bits that are off. Get it as it's one hell of an episode.

MFauli
Wed, 06-20-2007, 03:33 PM
Uber-awsome episode, but from the end of this episode, i think i will hate the end of the series. Letting Ligh shine like a winner at the end here implies that he fails next episode.
A pitty, that way once again the good guys win. :-(

Harima Kenji
Wed, 06-20-2007, 03:40 PM
Translation was decent.. the cliffhanger is pure sadistic.

It would suck for Light if Near díd count on a fake one and screwed him.. but I don't think that'll be the way to end this series :P

Really a kickass episode :)

gr3atfull
Wed, 06-20-2007, 05:33 PM
Mikami is really weird. He needs help. And N's plan was way to easy. Can't wait for next week!!!!!!!! And the translation was Okay. Not so great, but it wasn't horrible. 7.5/10

Yukimura
Thu, 06-21-2007, 12:08 AM
Death Note - 36 - [C&D] (http://weedy.1.vg:8395/torrents/%5BC%26D%5D%20Death%20Note%20-%2036%20%20%5B3540CA28%5D.avi.torrent?info_hash=9c 1082ec007c34a6e43fde7c89947c5d6f9316f6)

This just appeared. It's rumored that C&D is actually a cover for a group that has worked on DN for a while now.

Koyuki
Thu, 06-21-2007, 12:54 AM
Yeah, I think so too. The font was similar, and the sub was good. I can't believe that DN is over after next episode.

Harima Kenji
Thu, 06-21-2007, 03:57 AM
So C&D is the best one yet?

Koyuki
Thu, 06-21-2007, 05:28 AM
Not sure, I didn't download Ruberias version. But it's as good as Kuro-Hana. Anyways if you haven't seen the episode yet just download it. It's better than waiting :)

Raven
Thu, 06-21-2007, 07:23 AM
Oh man, biggest cliffhanger ever.

I really want Light to win, but after seeing what just happened I doubt he will. Near's got something up his sleeve.

I can't believe there's only one episode left. Where's the recap!?! ;)

Spiegel
Thu, 06-21-2007, 08:58 AM
Sorry it took me song long to get these uploaded, I have been really busy lately. Here is Episode 36 by the sub group mentioned above and by [C&D]. These links are direct downloads. Please enjoy!

[C&D] Death Note 36 [3540CA28] (http://shinigami-only-eat-apples.net/Downloads/DN/LAST/[C&D]_Death_Note_-_36_[3540CA28].avi)

[Ruberia] Death Note 36 [xvid][B8ADD330] (http://shinigami-only-eat-apples.net/Downloads/DN/LAST/[Ruberia]_Death_Note_-_36[xvid][B8ADD330].avi)

masamuneehs
Thu, 06-21-2007, 10:51 AM
oh Yuki, do you really doubt Light's genius so much?

However...if he ever had one flaw, it was his arrogance and pride. And they say that the meek shall inherit the Earth. For once, I'm actually cheering for the good guys to win.

Yukimura
Thu, 06-21-2007, 10:56 AM
I don't doubt Light, I doubt Light's creator. I'm not sure they creator has the guts to give the world to Light regardless of whether he deserves it or not (which he does imo).

NeoCybercoin
Thu, 06-21-2007, 11:00 AM
Ahhh man Light kicks ass. I think I was excited as Light was in this episode.

Hiwatari
Thu, 06-21-2007, 12:44 PM
So C&D is the best one yet?

apparently so, if you want to, its comparable with Ruberia's x264 high quality version.

As i use a Divx Player to play on my TV, i tried to make my own version via high quality converting the x264 version to a DivX and extracting the soft subs using tools like Mkv-extract GUI. Then I use Virtualdub to mux together to create the Divx playable version for myself and to me its the same as C and D's version.

Bucket
Thu, 06-21-2007, 01:49 PM
One more episode. If L appears and we discover he faked his death, my face will explode.

Carnage
Thu, 06-21-2007, 04:19 PM
Man it feels so strange. In the manga I feel like Im rooting for Light but in the anime Im rooting for Near

Harima Kenji
Thu, 06-21-2007, 05:17 PM
I'm definately rooting for Light.. It would suck só bad if he doesn't win..
It would also be a different kind of ending.. cuz if Light wins, 'Evil' wins.
when does DN air btw?

I can't wait for the last episode :)

No matter how it ends, this cliffhanger is a 10/10, hands down.

kippykinkel
Thu, 06-21-2007, 05:23 PM
C&D....cease and desist?

Spiegel
Thu, 06-21-2007, 09:03 PM
Yes, C&D Seems to be a play on the Cease and Desist orders.

Uberbaka
Fri, 06-22-2007, 05:50 AM
I found the name C&D funny... Definately rooting for light.

Psyke
Fri, 06-22-2007, 11:07 AM
Light's my hero. But I can't see how he can win given the way the show's going, with him trying to control his laughter and all. And yeah, no more death note after 1 more episode is definately saddening :(

Darknodin
Fri, 06-22-2007, 07:42 PM
Light's my hero. But I can't see how he can win given the way the show's going, with him trying to control his laughter and all. And yeah, no more death note after 1 more episode is definately saddening :(

wouldn't it be cool if Light plan was actually perfect and Near was completely dumbfounded but... under excitement Mikami gets dyslexia and wrote the names wrong? oh and isn't there a rule that if you write a name wrong 3 times that person become Death Note Immune? (<--- btw, upon reading the rules of the note, that's the first thing i would have done)

intense
Fri, 06-22-2007, 09:17 PM
does anyone know where to get the eps 32 - 35?

masamuneehs
Fri, 06-22-2007, 10:44 PM
does anyone know where to get the eps 32 - 35?

seriously, try reading previous posts.

http://shinigami-only-eat-apples.net/

David75
Sat, 06-23-2007, 04:33 AM
To me, they're all dead, light included.

My greatest concern being Ryuk, totally absent for quite a long time...

c u

WRX Sti
Sat, 06-23-2007, 05:06 AM
omg i just watched ep 36, this is a bad place to stop an ep :( cant wait for next episode...

Xyrox
Sat, 06-23-2007, 09:17 AM
To me, they're all dead, light included.

My greatest concern being Ryuk, totally absent for quite a long time...

c u

Then the everyone (well, every human) who knows about the Death Note would disappear, right? Sounds like a reasonable ending.

I wonder if they'll use any of the rules we've seen )when there's a pause in the middle of the episode)?

Argh, can't wait for the last episode, even though It's a little bit sad that Death Note is ending.

JaySee
Sat, 06-23-2007, 10:04 PM
wouldn't it be cool if Light plan was actually perfect and Near was completely dumbfounded but... under excitement Mikami gets dyslexia and wrote the names wrong? oh and isn't there a rule that if you write a name wrong 3 times that person become Death Note Immune? (<--- btw, upon reading the rules of the note, that's the first thing i would have done)
4 times. And if you misspell on purpose, you die. :cool:

Darknodin
Sun, 06-24-2007, 06:16 PM
4 times. And if you misspell on purpose, you die. :cool:

its kind of easy tho... just tell someone else to write on the death note and make a mistake while telling them what to write. the person writing it isn't doing it on purpose.

JaySee
Mon, 06-25-2007, 01:46 AM
That'll just lead to a whole new laundery list of problems.

David75
Mon, 06-25-2007, 03:14 AM
That 4 mispells rule is interresting.
Didn't Light write multiple instances of a bad guy's name as a first try of the DN?
How many versions of the name did he try?
If he did more than Four, does that mean that the rule is counting trials in the order they were done? That would mean Light was lucky enough for the right spelling being in the Four first trials.

Next idea: when you don't know someone's name orthograph, and you do what light did, does that count as intentional mispelling?
Of course you do not change the orthograph intentionally, so maybe it"s ok, however you intentionally write multiple versions which are for the most wrong... since only one is correct.

I guess I'll have to rewatch first ep...

Yukimura
Wed, 06-27-2007, 01:02 AM
Death Note - 37 - [Ruberia] (http://www.nyaatorrents.org./?page=download&tid=2293)

Let the end come swiftly.

EDIT: YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!! I'll wait a day before I post my thoughts since there will be massive spoilers but I've got a whole treatise of angst to throw at this one.

NeoCybercoin
Wed, 06-27-2007, 04:34 AM
Yes you should wait with that since I wanna download the Kuro-Hana one. I can't wait @__@

Harima Kenji
Wed, 06-27-2007, 04:43 AM
*will hold comments as wel...*
*fights the urge to unload his thoughts*

Knives122
Wed, 06-27-2007, 05:58 AM
One word: GAY(with the way things played out at least)

Xyrox
Wed, 06-27-2007, 06:38 AM
*Can't hold the angst anymore*

This was just... Aaah! *Implodes*

(Will post serious comment later)

Raven
Wed, 06-27-2007, 08:13 AM
Am I the only one who liked it?

Munchie
Wed, 06-27-2007, 09:44 AM
that was weak. :(

MFauli
Wed, 06-27-2007, 10:32 AM
I hated it -.-

.....

I mean...what we saw was well presented...i just didnt like the content itself -.-

masamuneehs
Wed, 06-27-2007, 10:33 AM
I am quite satisfied with the content of this episode. Makes me smile from ear to ear.

I preferred the manga ending (same outcome, but different tone, slightly more suspenseful). Although I loved the portions that stuck to the manga (up until 15:45) I thought they did a pretty mediocre job with the very very end... Cinematic cliches coming out the ass...

are people seriously holding out for C&D to comment? Just, you know, avoid this thread for a day or two and people here can talk about it... I mean, the world doesn't stop for you because you're picky with fansubs...

Psyke
Wed, 06-27-2007, 11:21 AM
I've yet to get the last volume of the manga, so I didn't know what was going to happen.... but I really liked how it ended. I thought L coming to see his "only friend" was a nice touch, although like most of you guys said, it was a little cliche. And finally....

damn you Mikami! :(

pandacon
Wed, 06-27-2007, 11:36 AM
An ending like this, it's hard not to be dissappointed, though it was expected that it would end like this since the beginning of the series. Though I did just check out the manga ending, and it was like the live action movies ending, which I think I liked better, maybe only because of the interaction between Light and Ryuk.

WRX Sti
Wed, 06-27-2007, 11:47 AM
really didnt like the ending :( it was well presented though... also it was just so out of character for yagami light to act like that :) would've prefered if ryuk just killed everyone there :)

Knives122
Wed, 06-27-2007, 12:28 PM
damn you Mikami! :(

Seriously, this is what pissed me off when I finished the manga, Mikami pretty much fucked Light over. Near pretty much said that Light would've won if it hadn't been for Mikami doing that one stupid thing, Mello doing his part wouldn't have even mattered.

You are the biggest jackass in the world Mikami, and Light is a jackass for not telling Mikami that Takada was his responsibility.

ps: I think we can all agree that Misa jumped off that building?

masamuneehs
Wed, 06-27-2007, 01:20 PM
I didn't think Light acted out of character at all. He was arrogant and prattling even when it was clear he had lost. The fact that he tried to use Kira's god-like reputation among the people just shows how far he'd inflated his own ego. Light could never handle losing, so it's not surprising that he blubbers like a scared child when he's finally facing his end.

Matsuda rocked. Nate River for the win (Giovanni on the assist). Mikami gives up the game-winner.

Misa killed herself? I'd be fine with that... I thought she'd play a role somehow in the end, but turns out she was pretty much just eye-candy for the past couple episodes she's been in...


“No. You are just a murderer. And this book is the worst weapon in history.

If you were a normal person... if you had seen the extent of this tool's power just once, if you had used this notebook just once, you would have been horrified by what can be brought by it, you would have feared it, and regretted what you had done. And you never would have used it a second time...

I could understand someone who would kill countless people for their personal gains. I would even consider that normal. But you lost yourself to the Shinigami and to the power of the notebook, mistakingly thinking you could become God.. A crazy mass murderer, that's all you are. Nothing else.

Even if there is a God and his word existed, even then I'd stop and think for myself. I'd decide for myself whether his teachings are right or wrong. After all, I am just the same as you. I put faith in my own convictions as to what I believe is right...

You are most certainly no “God”, for one. And having you tell people how to lead their lives, and having people live accordingly, is neither peace nor justice as far as I'm concerned. Calling yourself God and killing people indiscriminately is definitely evil in my book.”

I disagree with some of it, but I'd much rather side with this reasoning than Light's.

David75
Wed, 06-27-2007, 01:51 PM
Mikami being the one responsible for Light's defeat is lame.
They insisted so much on how Mikami was strict and predictable... it's just too lame, easy, and stupid...

For the DN being the worst weapon in history, well that's over exageration again...

This end is one of many possible, but it only shows how ridiculous was light motivation. It's a pre-teen one, not the one of a very bright guy he has been sold to us.

Now remains the nothingness were light goes... Logics can't solve to problem: how is something supposed to go to nothingness....

c u

Yukimura
Wed, 06-27-2007, 02:26 PM
Part 1: The execution of the plot.
I've believed a lot of strange stuff in this show, but it's pretty tough for me to believe that Giovanni or whoever could break into a safety deposit box, remove the Note, copy it exactly and then break back into the safety deposit box to put it back all in one day. I understand that Light had to lose and Near had to have some kind of clever plan. But I would have much rather it was something lamer but believable. I could have believed a Death Note switch based on Mikami leading the guy to the Note buried in some obscure place, but a bank safety deposit box...come on.
The rest of Near's plan was believable enough though not all that interesting, with Mikami being the predictable and foolish guy that he is. Light didn't have much of a plan at all, let alone a grand scheming awesome plan like his memory trick, which disappointed me greatly.


Part 2: Philosophy
I personally side with Light's philosophy, because his way at least showed results. Yes it tried to force things on people, and yes Light was human and thus flawed, but on the other hand was the world he wanted to make not safer? I don't believe that people in general will ever stop doing 'bad' things while they have the opportunity. The Kira mentality makes it so that people have a concrete reason not to act up (or at least not get caught). As long as people have a choice some of them will choose the wrong path, and then what do you do with them?

If you can tie 'the wrong path' with death you can at least curtail the effects of the wrong path. Many who choose would choose 'the wrong path' do fear death and those who don't are not going to be doing much good for anyone anyway. Without divine level insight and judgment however this strategy can't make a 'perfect' world but it could at least make a world with much less crime and violence and negativity than the one we live in.

As to Near's little speech, what masa posted makes more sense and is less bs than what he said in the anime. But what is Justice? What is evil? It is different for everyone and no amount of consensus can change that fact. In the show Near tries to tear down Lights aspirations and call him nothing but an evil murderer, but from my perspective Near and his crew are eavesdropping, privacy invading, stalking, thieves. Would Near submit if someone had tried to arrest him for the crimes he committed in his pursuit of Light?
I would have preferred if Near or even L had just once admitted that they were breaking laws in the pursuit of their beliefs just like Light was. Why is Light's flaunting of the rules evil if Near's isn't. Is it because he was killing people and thus 'evil'? If murder is so 'evil' and thus more important than other laws why bother with legal rights and trials in the case of murderers? Why not just immediately punish anyone you're reasonably sure committed a murder? Hmm this is starting to sound familiar.

pandacon
Wed, 06-27-2007, 02:40 PM
Light's biggest mistake was how much he relied on for Mikami to kill Near, Light should of just had everyone die a little after one o'clock sans Deathnote, and then shot Near, would of made things a lot more reliable, Near would of been nearly defenseless with everyone else dead, and guns don't need faces or names. Light should of known better than to trust Mikami with this moment.

BananaFob
Wed, 06-27-2007, 04:01 PM
Light's biggest mistake was how much he relied on for Mikami to kill Near, Light should of just had everyone die a little after one o'clock sans Deathnote, and then shot Near, would of made things a lot more reliable, Near would of been nearly defenseless with everyone else dead, and guns don't need faces or names. Light should of known better than to trust Mikami with this moment.

How would he have done it if he was under the surveillance of his small police group, and if Mikami had a fake Death Note? I believe Light only had the small piece of the Note in his watch and none other besides Misa's Death Note (I forgot, I only read the manga). Light also didn't know the names and faces of N's group as well, so how could he kill them?


For the DN being the worst weapon in history, well that's over exageration again...

It's the best. You can kill anybody you want without touching them, or even being contact with them as long as you know their name and face. When you can kill them, I can control their actions. How about the situation when Light (or was it Mello?) threatened to kill the US President and control him to fire nukes? The Death Note itself as evidence, can easily be erased by giving up ownership or burning it.

Lucifus
Wed, 06-27-2007, 04:43 PM
Simple review:
Uh...Hated Lights guts, Great effing ending. L, Mello and Near are the shyt.:cool:

Lots of blood and insane people....just the way I likes it.

Darknodin
Wed, 06-27-2007, 07:08 PM
for me... This Ending Sucks!.. Light shoulda won... or Mello or better yet... Ryuk in some weird way. Near was just too arrogant for me.

Light has been lame since the time skip tho

RoCk
Wed, 06-27-2007, 09:53 PM
Seeing light fall down like that and be in such a state really pissed me off

light was an idol, this episode made him go from michael jackson king of pop to michael jackson the child molestor.

but its okay, in my mind, michael jackson the king of pop died a long time ago. Light will be like that too and I will fail to acknowledge episode 37 :P

masamuneehs
Wed, 06-27-2007, 11:20 PM
the entire end is supposed to be Light's fall from grace, which is why I didn't like how they gave him such a peaceful death. In the manga, he's begging Ryuk to side with him (and for one hot second, you really think Ryuk might just kill Near and all of them). But Mikami forsakes him (doesn't commity suicide until years later) and Ryuk laughs at him, telling him the final rules.

All humans eventually die.
All humans, upon death, go to the void.

and Light cries and begs for his life and it's very moving, one of the few times I almost felt compassion for him.

Ryuk DOES win! He was entertained, and that was what it was all about for him.

Possibly the only loose end is how does Giovanni get into Mikami's safe deposit box? The American govt, the Japanese govt, and many others had officially declared they'd not go against Kira at this point, and they never specify how he gets and manages to perfectly copy the Death Note.

Light may have been an idol. But, like Michael Jackson, he was only human. And all humans die. And all humans fail, at some point. I thought it was a fitting ending, because otherwise it would send the message that 'you can do whatever you want and live life according to your personal judgments, killing others at your discretion, as long as you don't get caught / manage to maintain your power'

Sandldan
Wed, 06-27-2007, 11:51 PM
I really liked this part a whole lot better in the manga, mainly for the reasons masamuneehs stated. I also miss the aftertalk between Matsuda and Aizawa around one year after the incident.
All in all was pretty annoyed with the series when finishing it at first. In the first part i was vouching on L then he dies, after that part i took a break in my reading. After that i started to vouch for Light... but then he died.

Also found this altered manga page pretty fun, got no idea what they say though. Been saving this picture until the series ended, some might like this alternate ending better ;o
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3999/teey0.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teey0.jpg)

Pure2500
Thu, 06-28-2007, 02:22 AM
I liked the manga ending better, the anime ending was too soft on Light, probably because there is a lot of Light's fans out there.


Part 2: Philosophy
I personally side with Light's philosophy, because his way at least showed results. Yes it tried to force things on people, and yes Light was human and thus flawed, but on the other hand was the world he wanted to make not safer? I don't believe that people in general will ever stop doing 'bad' things while they have the opportunity. The Kira mentality makes it so that people have a concrete reason not to act up (or at least not get caught). As long as people have a choice some of them will choose the wrong path, and then what do you do with them?

If you can tie 'the wrong path' with death you can at least curtail the effects of the wrong path. Many who choose would choose 'the wrong path' do fear death and those who don't are not going to be doing much good for anyone anyway. Without divine level insight and judgment however this strategy can't make a 'perfect' world but it could at least make a world with much less crime and violence and negativity than the one we live in.

As to Near's little speech, what masa posted makes more sense and is less bs than what he said in the anime. But what is Justice? What is evil? It is different for everyone and no amount of consensus can change that fact. In the show Near tries to tear down Lights aspirations and call him nothing but an evil murderer, but from my perspective Near and his crew are eavesdropping, privacy invading, stalking, thieves. Would Near submit if someone had tried to arrest him for the crimes he committed in his pursuit of Light?
I would have preferred if Near or even L had just once admitted that they were breaking laws in the pursuit of their beliefs just like Light was. Why is Light's flaunting of the rules evil if Near's isn't. Is it because he was killing people and thus 'evil'? If murder is so 'evil' and thus more important than other laws why bother with legal rights and trials in the case of murderers? Why not just immediately punish anyone you're reasonably sure committed a murder? Hmm this is starting to sound familiar.

What is justice and what is evil, everyone have their point of view. Light have no right to judge who's evil and who's not, he is just a God wannabe.It has been mentioned before in the anime, what Light created is a peaceful world created by fear.
Like you mentioned, if killing people is evil why bother with legal rights and trials in case of murderers. Have you ever wondered that through all the killing done by Light there is people that have been wrongly accused or framed ? ;)

David75
Thu, 06-28-2007, 03:09 AM
Light may have been an idol. But, like Michael Jackson, he was only human. And all humans die. And all humans fail, at some point. I thought it was a fitting ending, because otherwise it would send the message that 'you can do whatever you want and live life according to your personal judgments, killing others at your discretion, as long as you don't get caught / manage to maintain your power'

IRL some very dirty bad ass bastard died at a very old age from a very peaceful death...
They were not living in their mother country or region, but the replacement was fine...

I think of some mass murders of the past...

The thing is, of course Light had to die, had to loose.

But the way they did this isn't up to the level of the begining of the show.
They just tricked us like in a bad Z movie... that"s why I'm angry, just because
the scenarist "lied" in order to finish the series. It's understandable for a Z movie,
not for DN...
I think they had so many possibilities they didn't exploit... And the way they
draw light and mikami when they become sicos... the total change in their behaviour.
Tss, give me a break.


c u

Raven
Thu, 06-28-2007, 04:42 AM
I would have preferred if Near or even L had just once admitted that they were breaking laws in the pursuit of their beliefs just like Light was. Why is Light's flaunting of the rules evil if Near's isn't. Is it because he was killing people and thus 'evil'? If murder is so 'evil' and thus more important than other laws why bother with legal rights and trials in the case of murderers? Why not just immediately punish anyone you're reasonably sure committed a murder? Hmm this is starting to sound familiar.
Well said, I agree. Talk about double standards.


And the way they
draw light and mikami when they become sicos... the total change in their behaviour.
Tss, give me a break.

It's a sad fact that people will act extremely different when desperate or threatened, even the most calm, controlled and rational ones. Not to mention that Mikami's world was pretty much falling apart as he watched the ultimate loss and failure of his God.

I liked this ending. Not because I was against Light (I was rooting for him the whole way), but because I knew it had to turn out this way eventually, and the way they did it felt satisfying to me.

I have to say, without starting any arguments, that I agreed with a lot of what Light believed in. There have been many times when I've seen the actions of a truly terrible person and thought "gee, the world sure would be better off without him/her". The only difference with Light was that he was given the power to act on these feelings. Now, I'm not saying I have it within me to kill someone, but hypothetically if I was the one who found the notebook I'd have to think long and hard about what I'd do, rather than just throw it away immediately. I mean, think of how different the world would be if someone wrote down Osama Bin Laden's name, for example. But does anyone really have the right to choose whose name is written? I'd say no, they don't. That wouldn't stop me thinking about it however.

Light was corrupt, it's true. He basically was prepared to kill anyone, including his own family, to reach his goals. The series couldn't end with him winning, not after the way he's been portrayed throughout. But like Yukimura said, it's not like the opposing side was perfect in their morality, etc. I would have liked Near or Light to admit their wrongdoings rather than proclaim themselves the enlightened saviours. The series kind of showed them to be too perfectly righteous, imo. That's only a niggling little side thing for me though.

By the way, do we know how Mikami actually killed himself? He had a knife on him the whole time? Also, I would have liked to see the aftermath where people realized Kira was gone, and especially the reactions of Light's family when they found out the truth.

Additionally, I can't quite remember Ryuk saying he would be the one to write Light's name in his notebook, like he mentioned in the final episode. Does anyone recall when he said this originally?

Sandldan
Thu, 06-28-2007, 05:08 AM
Additionally, I can't quite remember Ryuk saying he would be the one to write Light's name in his notebook, like he mentioned in the final episode. Does anyone recall when he said this originally?

He mentions it in the first episode


And when you die i'll be the one writing your name in my notebook

masamuneehs
Thu, 06-28-2007, 06:01 AM
double standards?

Light's killing people based on reputation, internet reports, and potentially flawed information doesn't hold a candle of 'standards' in it compared to L/Near who risk their own lives in order to concretely find who Kira is...


Why not just immediately punish anyone you're reasonably sure committed a murder? cuz if you get it wrong, you're the fucking murderer! You'd be pissed if you or someone you know got arrested for a crime and punished immediately just because the cops were fairly sure (read: too lazy to investigate further) that that person was the perpetrator.
The only remotely "just" way to hand out punishments is to first confirm that you've got the actual person who committed the crimes. And that can take time and a lot of hassle.. (now does this sound familair?)

I think people are upset because the mangaka couldn't come up with a truly mind-blowing way for Near to trump Light. Yes, there are holes and conveniences in the plot that favor Near. There are also conveniences that favored Light (her name is Amane Misa).

People also seem to somehow think that spying on suspected criminals and invasion of privacy are comparable to murder. Sure, in a perfect world, Near wouldn't need to have done such things. But, his alternatives would be to summarily haul in and punish someone without confirming their guilt (Light's method) or let Kira continue to kill. And honestly, when it's the biggest serial killer in history (that's what Light is), you just can't let that person go.

el_boss
Thu, 06-28-2007, 07:25 AM
It was a good ending but Near's plan sucked cock.

Uberbaka
Thu, 06-28-2007, 10:58 AM
Rooting for light the entire way through, bummed that he lost. But what bothered me the most was the lack of aftermath/afterthought.

I was atleast hoping for a dialogue _between_ Light and Ryuk.. Maybe in the other world or something. Or Light becoming a death god or something amusing like that which would have meant he didn't suffer total defeat.

Oh well.

Fantastic series anyway.

masamuneehs
Thu, 06-28-2007, 11:22 AM
edit - Ruberia Fansub Group has released Version 2 of Death Note Episode 37- Ruberia (http://ruberia.extra.hu/%5BRuberia%5D_Death_Note_-_37v2_%5BFINAL%5D_%5BXviD%5D%5B6FA7D273%5D.torrent )


I was atleast hoping for a dialogue _between_ Light and Ryuk..
You should read the last two chapters of the manga then. Actually, just about everything Ryuk said in the anime while up on that tower, he actually says to Light's face, inside of the Yellow Box in the manga. And Light is quite pathetic... The majority of the conversation is a flashback, back in Light's house during one of his first conversations with Ryuk about the Note. The flashback is followed immediately by Light's death, which concludes the story (then the next chapter is sorta an epilogue with Matsuda and Ide talking)



Ryuk: "Death Note users shouldn't think about going to Heaven or Hell. You'll enjoy it after you die.

Light: "Won't go to Heaven or Hell... that's enough for me to understand, Ryuk.

Ryuk: "Hn? About what?"

Light: "There's neither Heaven nor Hell, is there?"

Ryuk: ! ... ... *smiling* "You really surprised me. I thought every human believed in Heaven and Hell. Ah, just as you said, Heaven and Hell don't exist.
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2649/dn16fe2.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dn16fe2.jpg)

Shinigami are ANCIENT, old as who knows what. This is hinted at early on, since most of the Shinigami are bored to tears in their world, even bored with the human world. The relative boredom among Shinigami seems to suggest that the they've been at their task for a very long time. So no new Shinigami, at least not from mankind...

BananaFob
Thu, 06-28-2007, 11:33 AM
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3999/teey0.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teey0.jpg)

Could someone please translate this image? I would really like to know what they're saying and what is happening.

Bucket
Thu, 06-28-2007, 11:49 AM
I suppose this is as good as I can expect out of a series. I mean, I wasn't expecting Light to win (though it would've been a great spin if he did). What I did expect was something less contrived than the book being "fake real real fake real fake fake". I also have more questions:

- If Light was truly cornered, why didn't he play his trump card and ask for shinigami eyes? It's not like he had anything to lose-- and if he did that, he could buy plenty of time.
- Weren't there 3 books? One for Light, one for the girl and the third from the dead shinigami. I know there's one book unaccounted for; why didn't Light include it in a contingency plan?
- Speaking of contingencies, why didn't he even HAVE one? He should've had one, even if he thought his victory was assured. It seems very uncharacteristic of Light to hinge his entire plan on one crazy-ass follower of his. The guy might have been smart and predictable, but still out of his mind and prone to make mistakes.
- There are a bunch of actions related to characters that I can't swallow: Light just plain giving up, Mello agreeing to be a sacrificial lamb...

Oh well. 36 great episodes out of 37 is a good run.

David75
Thu, 06-28-2007, 02:02 PM
I suppose this is as good as I can expect out of a series. I mean, I wasn't expecting Light to win (though it would've been a great spin if he did). What I did expect was something less contrived than the book being "fake real real fake real fake fake". I also have more questions:

- If Light was truly cornered, why didn't he play his trump card and ask for shinigami eyes? It's not like he had anything to lose-- and if he did that, he could buy plenty of time.
- Weren't there 3 books? One for Light, one for the girl and the third from the dead shinigami. I know there's one book unaccounted for; why didn't Light include it in a contingency plan?
- Speaking of contingencies, why didn't he even HAVE one? He should've had one, even if he thought his victory was assured. It seems very uncharacteristic of Light to hinge his entire plan on one crazy-ass follower of his. The guy might have been smart and predictable, but still out of his mind and prone to make mistakes.
- There are a bunch of actions related to characters that I can't swallow: Light just plain giving up, Mello agreeing to be a sacrificial lamb...

Oh well. 36 great episodes out of 37 is a good run.


Mikami got 2 DNs
The Police had one too they brought in ep 35.

c u

Yukimura
Thu, 06-28-2007, 03:28 PM
The original Death Note was taken back by that other shinigami after the first Mello incident.
Misa's Death Note was the one Near swiped from the Safety deposit box. Mikami thought he was using this one.
The one Aizawa had was Rems (Light sent it to the investigation office claiming it was Kira's)

Spiegel
Thu, 06-28-2007, 05:46 PM
i have been way to busy lately but I finally have DN 37 by Ruberia up for download. It might not be of much use for many of you now, But for others it may still serve a purpose. Here is a direct link, or you can visit the page in my signature.

[Ruberia] Death Note 37 [XviD][72965552] (http://shinigami-only-eat-apples.net/Downloads/DN/LAST/%5bRuberia%5d_Death_Note_-_37_%5bXviD%5d%5b72965552%5d.avi)

Yukimura
Thu, 06-28-2007, 07:13 PM
[Ruberia] Death Note 37 [XviD][72965552] (http://shinigami-only-eat-apples.net/Downloads/DN/LAST/%5bRuberia%5d_Death_Note_-_37_%5bXviD%5d%5b72965552%5d.avi)

You should replace that with their v2.

Spiegel
Thu, 06-28-2007, 07:24 PM
You should replace that with their v2.

That was uploaded before V2, I am getting v2 now to upload. I was too busy to notice really, thank you for pointing it out.

JaySee
Thu, 06-28-2007, 08:05 PM
There is a V2 of C&D's 36 out as well.

UChessmaster
Thu, 06-28-2007, 08:07 PM
- If Light was truly cornered, why didn't he play his trump card and ask for shinigami eyes? It's not like he had anything to lose-- and if he did that, he could buy plenty of time.

- Weren't there 3 books? One for Light, one for the girl and the third from the dead shinigami. I know there's one book unaccounted for; why didn't Light include it in a contingency plan?

- Speaking of contingencies, why didn't he even HAVE one? He should've had one, even if he thought his victory was assured. It seems very uncharacteristic of Light to hinge his entire plan on one crazy-ass follower of his. The guy might have been smart and predictable, but still out of his mind and prone to make mistakes.

- There are a bunch of actions related to characters that I can't swallow: Light just plain giving up, Mello agreeing to be a sacrificial lamb...

A) Two reasons

1) He already knew everyone`s name, why would he need the eyes?

2) Even with the names... he didnt had a DN with him, only a tiny piece of paper, and we know how that went...

B) Light`s Original DN is with Sidoh or w/e his name is, mikami has Misa/Jealous`s and the police has Rem`s

C) Mikami is basically Light`s though turned into a man so... why not? we have to consider as well he was being observed 24/7 by Aizawa and the other guy (Mogi?)

D) Light didn`t gave up... at least not in the manga, he fought and tried anything until the last second, as for mello... you have to realize he IS the key part of everything, someone has to do it

Psyke
Sat, 06-30-2007, 02:19 AM
With the end of the series, I recommend that fans go watch the 2 movies. It's based largely on the manga, but without the time jump.

Here's a glimpse of a scene from the 2nd movie. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWcmiBaSbjI)

Sandldan
Sat, 06-30-2007, 03:28 AM
There's also currently a L spin-off film in the makings, that's about all i know about it.
Here's the official site with some information in japanese and a trailer.
http://wwws.warnerbros.co.jp/L-movie/

JaySee
Sun, 07-01-2007, 07:08 AM
Hmm... no C&D release yet? What's their webpage?

ShinobiNeko
Sun, 07-01-2007, 05:54 PM
off of anime news site:

The official homepage for the recently concluded Death Note anime television series reports that the series will be re-broadcast this summer in prime-time ("Golden Time"). The series originally aired on Tuesdays at 1 AM. According to Mantan Web, the prime-time re-broadcast will include new scenes created specifically for the new broadcast.

anime version had to have done well to get a quick rebroadcast and in golden time.. intersting that they will include new scenes..might have to rewatch =S

Yukimura
Sun, 07-01-2007, 10:44 PM
Hmm... no C&D release yet? What's their webpage?

C&D is kuro-hana operating in violation of the Cease & Desist order they recieved, you won't find any news on them at all.

Koyuki
Mon, 07-02-2007, 05:28 AM
The ending was good, but I hoped Light won. I liked his philosophy, even if it was similar to dictatorship. Lights only mistake was relying on others.

I'm gonna catch up on the manga so I can check out how they ended it there and I'll watch those live-movies too.

Raven
Mon, 07-02-2007, 06:36 AM
anime version had to have done well to get a quick rebroadcast and in golden time.. intersting that they will include new scenes..might have to rewatch =S

Yeah, I heard they were making an additional episode at the end to show the aftermath, etc. I don't have any links to back that up though.

kenren
Wed, 07-04-2007, 06:48 AM
When i started the manga, i stopped the anime. I'm glad that i watched the last episode of the anime, to me.. it ended way better than the manga. I'm on Light's side as well. it's good to know they're working on the aftermath episode =)

dragonrage
Fri, 07-06-2007, 12:52 AM
Wow.......

Just finished watching the last 12 episode of "Death Note"; yeah, after "L" died it felt that the anime had already ended and well I wanted to give myself time to appreciate the series thus far.

I must say that when "L" dies part of me died as well. I truly believed that Light and "L" were, no are friends. But because of their convictions they couldn't back down. Though Light is one sadistic bastard; me like, me like very much. Killing his friend and rival, and the way he did it was awe inspiring. But it was a lost nevertheless.

After watching episodes 26-37 It can be concluded that no one could ever take "L's" place, ever. Sure there were thought provoking moments but it came up short, not by much though. Nevertheless it was an ingenious anime one that I very much enjoyed watching. And well will be re-watching sometime in the future.

The fall of a king, well in the anime "God", while I think it was a bit sad to see Light in that state, it was quite fitting .Falling from that height and for the first time was expressed quite well. Ryuk seemed sad as well, maybe it's just that from now on he will be bored once again,.but I don't think that is the case. He truly enjoyed the time be spent with Light. All humans will die, it is only fitting that the being that started this end it, and end it he did. It makes me sad to heard that lady singing but all good things must come to an end, bad ones too but this was definitely one of the better ones.

Thank you Death Note, for robbing me of my boredom. Thank you for giving me somethings to think about. Thank you for giving me something I consider to be different and something to relate too.

Good bye, farewell.

Illrenmazou
Fri, 07-06-2007, 04:11 AM
A friend of mine found this:
DN Alternate Ending(?) (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dnfakeendingeu4.jpg)
Is this real?

Edit: By examining some of the frames, it seems that Light was just cropped in. Though it would be cool if its real :D

Harima Kenji
Fri, 07-06-2007, 05:12 AM
That ending would own :D
But I think Light has killed more ppl then the amount stated in that part..

UChessmaster
Sat, 07-07-2007, 04:39 PM
fake, but it looked kinda cool...

YaGaMi
Sat, 07-07-2007, 09:14 PM
Just finished the series, I liked how they showed Yagami's fall from grace when cornered, but even to the last moment I felt that he may have one last Ace up his sleeve to get himself out of the situation. I would've have preferred if "L" was around until the end instead of Near and Mello since his rivalry with Yagami was the best part of the series.

Overall Death Note will go down as one of my favourties!

Psyke
Sat, 07-21-2007, 09:51 AM
Although the series is over, I'm really happy to get these today.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2100/dnmb5.jpg

These figures make solving crimes much easier. :D

YaGaMi
Sat, 07-21-2007, 03:31 PM
Lol @ Psyke

shinta|hikari
Tue, 07-24-2007, 04:28 AM
WTF, those things look creepy.

Umm, what the hell are they?

Psyke
Tue, 07-24-2007, 05:06 AM
WTF, those things look creepy.

Umm, what the hell are they?

They're from Near's personal toy collection. :)

YaGaMi
Wed, 07-25-2007, 09:57 AM
Psyke where did you get those from?

Psyke
Wed, 07-25-2007, 10:04 AM
From a manga shop. Most manga shops here where I live also sells video games, candy and gashapon toys, anime, and related figures and goods. It's not hard to get replica Death notes, key chains, plushes, etc.

shinta|hikari
Thu, 07-26-2007, 11:54 PM
I have two replica death notes, one from the anime, and one from the movie (misa's note). There are tons of rules written in it (more than 50), and so far, they havent contradicted the anime and its portrayal of the death note, which leads me to wonder if all those rules have been thought out before the manga was written or if they just made it up after.

Kraco
Fri, 07-27-2007, 03:01 AM
When I visited a manga / anime convention a couple of weeks ago, a booth was selling those notes, but due to time limits the first time I passed the table I couldn't even have a look, and the second time I went there (after having eaten and listened to one more presentation), they were apparently sold out. Kind of pity, although I doubt I'd have bought one. But it would have been interesting to look inside one at least.

David75
Fri, 07-27-2007, 04:14 AM
Now that I rethink about this show, I really wish I had not seen the near/mello arc... it was really unnecessary and sadly not up to the quality of the beggining of the anime.
I wish they had thought of some other way for the falling of Light...

c u

shinta|hikari
Fri, 07-27-2007, 11:19 AM
Absolutely agreed. In fact, when I recommend the manga or anime to anyone, I specifically tell them to stop following the story after the first and better part ends (which is marked by L's death, a fact I hide to people I like, and blurt out "accidentally" to people I dont).

YaGaMi
Fri, 07-27-2007, 12:10 PM
Even though overall I enjoyed the series alot, I think there's quite a few of us that believe Death Note was not the same after L's death. When I was watching the series to me it was all about the battle between L and Yagami. Near could never come in and replace L.

shinta|hikari
Fri, 07-27-2007, 09:02 PM
Thats exactly why the 2nd part wasnt as good. Near tried to REPLACE L. Though a tad different, he was basically an inferior copy of L, and that made him much less interesting an enemy, especially when he caused the fall of light. It would have been better if he had a very different personality and style, making him a character in his own right, instead of some wannabe.

Psyke
Sat, 07-28-2007, 03:18 AM
If you guys disliked Near that much, you ought to enjoy the live movie, which closes the loop without the time jump.

shinta|hikari
Sat, 07-28-2007, 05:37 AM
Not necessarily. I havent watched the movie, but from what I hear, the ending wasnt really something to look forward to. Even without the near arc, if they fail to finish the story well, it would just be another disappointment. Id rather just imagine my own ending with Kira continuing to rule the world.

David75
Sat, 07-28-2007, 07:57 AM
Not necessarily. I havent watched the movie, but from what I hear, the ending wasnt really something to look forward to. Even without the near arc, if they fail to finish the story well, it would just be another disappointment. Id rather just imagine my own ending with Kira continuing to rule the world.

Well, it seems that L preferred dying rather than accuse Light and put him in jail.
But he could have thought of a scenario to take place after his death... that could have
been nice.

Instead, time jump and very boring near and mello. I wonder if they were better in the manga that they were in the anime.

c u

Psyke
Sat, 07-28-2007, 09:52 AM
From wiki:

A three-hour animated Death Note TV special, Death Note Director's Cut: Complete Ending Edition is scheduled to air on NTV on August 31, 2007 at 8:03 PM. It will be about Light Yagami and his rival L from the unique vantage point of Ryuk, Light's shinigami. It will contain new footage and dialogue that was not originally in the TV show.

And since you guys seem to be big fans of L, you might want to check out www.L-movie.jp for a teaser trailer on the upcoming spin off movie, due February 2008.

shinta|hikari
Sat, 07-28-2007, 12:08 PM
Whoa, amazing news. Thanks for that.

I wonder what the L movie will be about. Maybe Ls adventures before Light got the deathnote?

David75
Sat, 07-28-2007, 01:20 PM
After all, maybe the scenarists found it obvious the L arc was far better than the Near/Mello one...

Uberbaka
Sat, 07-28-2007, 01:22 PM
To be honest I don't actually believe they intended the near/mello conflict with Kira to be "better" than the one with L. I think L vs Light was intended to be the ultimate climax of the series and bringing in near/mello towards the end for some interesting situations and see how light acts differently with his partners and stuff which leads to his downfall. A sort of cooldown so the followers of the story aren't just left hanging.

My opinion anyway.

shinta|hikari
Sat, 07-28-2007, 10:12 PM
I dont think they intended it to be as mediocre as it was either. Im pretty sure the L and Light battle was the climax of the series, but the Near one doesnt even come close. And if its is just to wrap things up, its a tad too long IMO.

YaGaMi
Sun, 07-29-2007, 02:28 AM
Nice find Psyke!

Now I've got some more Death Note to watch. I hope the L movie tells us about how he gained his reputation as the greatest detective in the world by solving great crimes.

Knives122
Thu, 08-02-2007, 05:37 PM
Not that anyone cares anymore(which is possibly why I'm posting it), but the final volume of DN(after the series had ended) had L's name in it, so I figured I'd put it up for anyone that doesn't already know:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3963/a0000hrf0.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a0000hrf0.jpg)

Not very surprising...

6Zabuza9
Mon, 08-13-2007, 01:21 AM
hey i just watched animanda's death note to 30 and was wondering whee to get the rest. im scared to browse this thread because of possible spoilers lol

YaGaMi
Mon, 08-13-2007, 06:18 AM
hey i just watched animanda's death note to 30 and was wondering whee to get the rest. im scared to browse this thread because of possible spoilers lol

Check your Inbox m8! :)

Shadowflame
Mon, 08-13-2007, 11:26 AM
Heh, looks like most people felt the same way as me about the ending to this anime. Once that dude gets caught up, I'll post some of my thoughts on alternatives certain people could have used.

Yukimura
Mon, 08-13-2007, 04:06 PM
Pssshh, don't wait for one guy to get caught up, it's been over for weeks now. Just post your thoughts, he won't see them anyway as he's been pm'd the links and won;t be back until he's seen it all.

complich8
Mon, 08-13-2007, 06:19 PM
zomg! noes! I'm still in the mid 20's! Don't spoil it! :p

(for real though ... when L died, the series died with it to me)

YaGaMi
Mon, 10-01-2007, 07:50 PM
I don't know if it's right to put this in this topic, but its Death Note related and all I'll say is the world is crazy!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-10-01/notes-left-near-bodies-in-belgium-linked-to-death-note

TheBladeChild
Tue, 10-02-2007, 03:36 AM
I don't know if it's right to put this in this topic, but its Death Note related and all I'll say is the world is crazy!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-10-01/notes-left-near-bodies-in-belgium-linked-to-death-note

Woah that cant be good. I really hope this doesnt start to be some psycos rehash of DN.

David75
Tue, 10-02-2007, 03:37 AM
I don't know if it's right to put this in this topic, but its Death Note related and all I'll say is the world is crazy!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-10-01/notes-left-near-bodies-in-belgium-linked-to-death-note

Crazyness uses anything for fuel...

For optimistic ones, let's hope that these limbs were not taken after a murder.
I remember a case were limbs were discovered, and they were from an already dead person (no murder) or maybe from surgical ops. This is very unlikely, but let's be
optimistics.

masamuneehs
Tue, 10-02-2007, 03:00 PM
it's just another copy cat incidence...

but, perhaps this is part of the reason why I disliked Yagami Light, and why I was shocked at how many fans he had. He's essentially just another killer; and looking up to that killer, even if it's just thinking that he's a cool anime character, is never good for people's minds or society. It's obvious this crime, if it isn't just some prank, is the fault of the idiot copycat, but it really convinces me that those who say 'Light's goals were fine' really lack something.

David75
Tue, 10-02-2007, 03:06 PM
it's just another copy cat incidence...

but, perhaps this is part of the reason why I disliked Yagami Light, and why I was shocked at how many fans he had. He's essentially just another killer; and looking up to that killer, even if it's just thinking that he's a cool anime character, is never good for people's minds or society. It's obvious this crime, if it isn't just some prank, is the fault of the idiot copycat, but it really convinces me that those who say 'Light's goals were fine' really lack something.

Reminds me of stories happening after "Natural Born Killers". I've never seen that movies though.

YaGaMi
Tue, 10-02-2007, 05:19 PM
Hopefully its an isolated incident and we don't get more body parts turning up.

MFauli
Wed, 10-03-2007, 08:48 AM
it's just another copy cat incidence...

but, perhaps this is part of the reason why I disliked Yagami Light, and why I was shocked at how many fans he had. He's essentially just another killer; and looking up to that killer, even if it's just thinking that he's a cool anime character, is never good for people's minds or society. It's obvious this crime, if it isn't just some prank, is the fault of the idiot copycat, but it really convinces me that those who say 'Light's goals were fine' really lack something.

Light is probably the greatest anime-character ever. I so agreed with his view of everything. Sorry, but discrediting Light that way is stupid.

KAX256
Mon, 10-08-2007, 01:53 PM
Death Note is set to debut on adult swim on the 20th of this month. I think i might have to watch it over again :)

Board of Command
Mon, 10-08-2007, 03:47 PM
Too bad they couldn't spell "desu" right. Makes them look really stupid.

David75
Mon, 10-08-2007, 04:15 PM
Death Note is set to debut on adult swim on the 20th of this month. I think i might have to watch it over again :)
And you are lucky enough to know you can stop right at the time when L dies and go directly to the last few important scenes of the show ;)

Yukimura
Mon, 10-08-2007, 05:06 PM
I find it better to just consider Light's little conduction scene the end of the series, there's no real reason to watch anything past that go past that as it wraps things up rather nicely.

gonzo
Mon, 10-08-2007, 05:19 PM
Wheres a good place to find this series. I would browse the topic but I don't want any spoilers. Thanks!

YaGaMi
Mon, 10-08-2007, 06:08 PM
gonzo: here you go mate. Direct Downloads :) - http://shinigami-only-eat-apples.net/site/

Thank gotwoot's spiegel!

Testarossa Autodrive
Sun, 10-21-2007, 02:23 AM
Hahaha, so did anyone catch the English premier on Adult Swim?

I was a little bit surprised at Light's VA, it wasn't as terrible as I thought it would be. HOWEVER, it's not great. I would say it's fine enough to put up with. I just want to hear more before I pass judgment.

And Ryuk? Ehhh....he sounds a little too...what's the word, refined. His voice isn't gritty enough like it was in the Japanese version. It just doesn't fit very well, but it's not horrible.

I'm pretty curious about the other character's VAs, and it was good enough that I'd bother watching until at least I get a taste of L and Misa.

Yukimura
Sun, 10-21-2007, 03:15 PM
Weill I think Light's VA sucks completely for his role. He sounds too young and immature and that will probably makeit so people won't want to take his side. If they gave L a voice that sounds really mature and refined I don't think I'll keep watching since it takes away from the story to try and make one sound lesser than the other.

Necromas
Sun, 10-21-2007, 05:36 PM
It should have ended with L and Watari revealing that they struck a deal with Rem to fake their deaths, did some crazy detective shit to prove Light is Kira, and save Nears ass because Near + Mello are still inferior to L, then Watari pwns Mikami with the sniper rifle while L and Kira fight hand to hand, with L comming out the victor. Then Kira does his crybaby thing and tries the watch stunt and gets killed by Ryuk just like what actually happened.

Also, L puts Near in his place and sends him back to the orphanage, Rem finds a way to get Ryuk in trouble for breaking some rule and Ryuk gets killed and Kiras dad gets his life span he traded for the eyes with Ryuk somehow and is brought back (but not for long since he obviously didnt have a lot of time left when he made the trade, but long enough to curse Kira, say sorry to L for doubting him, and say something consoling to his family), and Ray Penbar and his fiance get married in heaven.

Spiegel
Sun, 10-21-2007, 06:15 PM
Necromas, I have to say, that is an interesting perspective to look at for an ending. Personally I found the ending fitting except for the whole Kira crying like a little girl and loosing all of his normal reserve.

Also, as always, http://shinigami-only-eat-apples.net

Necromas
Sun, 10-21-2007, 06:26 PM
I liked how the movie had an alternate storyline, and I really can't wait to read the novel too, if the novel is about L's past, then he can't die in it!

Also, L's real name is awesome.

P.S. A complete tangent here, but does anyone else think L would make a good Gundam pilot? (with Raito as one too of course)

Shadowflame
Mon, 10-22-2007, 10:05 AM
I would have been totally okay with Light getting arrested as long as they had focused in on the fact that he was still wearing his watch. If the last shot of the anime had just been a shot of him with his hands cuffed (in front of him? Is Mogi a moron?) with the watch glinting beneath the cuffs, I would have been happy.

Where was the preparation? Where was the back-up plan? Where was the beautiful acting he used to fool Naomi? Where was the patience that kept him from discarding the Note while in captivity that one time? Heck, he could have just told Mikami, "Test it before coming, and if it doesn't work write down my name too but leave this blonde kid's name out."

But no, just "THIS IS MY VICTORIO!!11!!!1ONE1!"

UChessmaster
Mon, 10-22-2007, 07:25 PM
how do you suggest he tell that to mikami considering he had no mean of comunication when takada died?

Shadowflame
Tue, 10-23-2007, 11:29 AM
I'd have thought that it would be part of the original plan from before Takada died, just in case. Considering that their entire bait-and-switch was based on the assumption that Mikami was being followed as the fourth Kira, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that something might happen at some point, making it necessary to make sure all the pieces were in position.

Yukimura
Tue, 10-23-2007, 12:00 PM
Light rarely demonstrated planing for completely out of the blue unforseen contingencies, especially after the skip. He constantly assumed he had predicted everything and accounted for it in his plans and usually he was right. However he was always vulnerable to events that defied all logic and thus his predictions.

I tend to blame all of Lights troubles on Near's magic safety deposit box replacement fiasco. Weddy, who was L's personal choice for best person to circumvent security was stopped by HIguchi's home security system, yet that random agent guy was able to rob a safety deposit box, duplicate its contents, and put them back all in the span of an hour...in broad daylight. In the face of such a non-naturalistic ability to there really was no chance for a rational solution. Just like L's camera's had no chance of catching Light off guard because he had Ryuk to tell him where they were. Just like people had no chance of avoiding their deaths once their names were entered into the Note. Light would have had to come up with a contingency plan for the supernatural to avoid what happened.

Shadowflame
Tue, 10-23-2007, 06:14 PM
His plan to take Near down was pretty based on out-of-the-blue occurrences though. He had to assume that they would take the Death Note and try to modify it rather than arresting Mikami outright for having the Note or just taking it and writing Mikami's name in it. It's not "out-of-the-blue" to think that a person might be caught and his unstoppable super-weapon taken away or de-powered when the person is being watched like a hawk and could feasibly give himself away by accident. Like, say, if something causes him to go to the location of the hiding spot of the unstoppable super-weapon.

BTW, that was totally out of character for Mikami as well; he had been set up as a totally devoted follower of Kira, and the thought that he would just dash aside all that obedience isn't within the boundaries of his tendency to overdo things.

And honestly, Near's magic doesn't end at the safety deposit box. The nonsense with the room spinning around while Near suddenly had a byakugan made me want to knee him in the face repeatedly like my name was Tony Jaa. It just smashed the suspension of disbelief into a thousand pieces, and that (apart from the finale) was probably the moment of my highest disappointment with the series.

UChessmaster
Sat, 11-03-2007, 09:26 PM
Death Note special is subed now... but i heard its a terrible sub >_>

http://www.mininova.org/tor/949368

http://mihd.net/r50e3n mirror

i guess its better than nothing

Testarossa Autodrive
Mon, 11-05-2007, 10:00 PM
So the subs really fuckin blew it out the ass, but it was nice to see a recap and the added parts. I still have to say that Light is a fuckin' prick and I'm glad he got what was coming to him, even more so after having seen what he did at L's funeral.

RoCk
Sat, 11-10-2007, 05:25 PM
Soo...anyone want to explain the ending to me? I think I got it, just want to hear what other people think.

This is the ending of the final conclusion.

KAX256
Sat, 11-10-2007, 08:37 PM
The special was awesome. aside from the horrible subbing, of course.

i really like the way it ended right after L, the way it should have. and how light became a death god (which i figured was what Ryuk meant when he couldnt go to heaven or hell).

as for the normal ending. Light's irrational behavior, id say is normal. He pretty much went crazy after the whole thing with L, so it would be understandable that he wouldnt be as calm and collected as he was at the very beginning. The inevitable downfall of man, pretty much. But i just hated how Near was always on top of it. Making impossible guesses and not testing anything like L did. He could predict everything Light did without even thinking, and just went with it and was always right.

but I agree with most of you that the adult swim version looks really watered down. but i pretty much assumed that as any anime thats been played in the US has been watered down and ruined, usually turned into a kids show.

Spiegel
Sun, 11-11-2007, 06:51 PM
Death Note special is subed now... but i heard its a terrible sub >_>

http://www.mininova.org/tor/949368

http://mihd.net/r50e3n mirror

i guess its better than nothing

Another Mirror on the front page of my site, http://shinigami-only-eat-apples.net.

lilphatboi88
Tue, 11-13-2007, 06:27 PM
I don't know why everyone hated Light. I knew he was a bad guy, but as the main character, you can't help but feel sorry that there were circumstances as to how he became a bored 17 year old. Was it that he was too smart and couldn't hold an intelligent conversation with anyone?

I wish the ending would have been somehow L and Light ended up as friends. They had good times together.

*Yagami Light IS a cool name, isn't it?

dsh1202
Wed, 11-14-2007, 10:39 AM
I used to think light wasnt so bad, but as the anime went on, he became more into the thing he was trying to end. He became really sick and twisted by the end of it all. The way he just treated people, even in his own family. He has to be one of the evilest villains ive ever seen. I did feel sorry for him at the beginning but as the story progressed i hated him more and more.

lilphatboi88
Wed, 11-14-2007, 01:50 PM
Yeah, the turning point in his character came when he tried to kill the fake L. He had no reason to kill that guy.

Psyke
Thu, 11-15-2007, 07:48 AM
I thought the way Light first met L in the special wasn't as good as in the original anime. However, I liked the last scene at L's tombstone.

Yukimura
Wed, 01-02-2008, 02:49 PM
Death Note Special - [Kuro-hana] (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=8265)

It's still kuro-hana but the stories about the other translation were so bad I figure any alternative is better than none. Besides they took so long on it maybe they made sure it was really well done.

MFauli
Thu, 01-03-2008, 12:25 PM
I don't know why everyone hated Light.

Who did???
Light is the best anime-character ever.

KrayZ33
Thu, 01-03-2008, 06:46 PM
yup i think so too... well its maybe not really "light" i like but what he's doing

its so hard to say if it is right or wrong what .. and that's what i like about it.. the people in the anime either hate or support him.. this is just fantastic...

the hide and seek game comes second for me (which is great too)
it reminds me a bit of code geass... there again it is difficult to say..

Kraco
Fri, 01-04-2008, 03:27 AM
Hard to say if killing random people with no remorse is right or wrong?

Man, I'm glad you are not my neighbour. No offense, but still...

Carnage
Fri, 01-04-2008, 06:55 AM
Hard to say if killing random people with no remorse is right or wrong?

Man, I'm glad you are not my neighbour. No offense, but still...

Criminals aren't random people.... and the same with people trying to stop him......

Kraco
Fri, 01-04-2008, 07:17 AM
Yes they were. When you just look at a newspaper and think that man deserves to die for whatever the newspaper accused him of, then it's random people. As well as people who were just doing their job trying to arrest Light himself, the worst criminal of them all.

Or if you insist, I can admit they were arbitrary, not random...

MFauli
Fri, 01-04-2008, 07:34 AM
Im completely against killing criminal in our real world, because there´s no real justice involved.

BUT if i had an allmighty power like the Death Note, then i would use it. But only because of its almight. The fact that noone would be safe from "justice" would justify its use to me.

KrayZ33
Fri, 01-04-2008, 08:39 AM
Hard to say if killing random people with no remorse is right or wrong?

Man, I'm glad you are not my neighbour. No offense, but still...


well its because you can't see through lights actions...
its difficult for me to explain because my english sucks but i'll give it a try..

what do you think will people do when they know there is someone who punishes you in an instant if you do something like rape/murder and stuff... i believe they wouldn't do it anymore... criminalism like this would simply stop

and btw
history showed us that there have to be sacrifices to create a new and better order..
you have to kill 100 to safe 100000 sometimes... thats life.
and there is a saying which goes like "kill 1 to scare a hundred" and thats what light does... he kills a few criminals to scare everyone so that they won't become criminals anymore

so i wouldn't say "it was all wrong"... and btw did you never thought of something like "damn this bastard.. i wish he would simply die" after hearing something in the news like "person xyz raped and killed 25 12-17 years old children" and so on?
isn't it just natural to think he deserves the death sentence? we used to live with the code ( i m not sure what it is called in english) "eye to eye, tooth to tooth" which simply means

if you kill my son, i will kill your son
or
if you do something bad to me, i will do something bad to you

people used to live like that for thousands of years it was even written down in the law they used to have, so it can't be THAT wrong can it?

and btw: light didn't kill people who were innocent.. he only killed people which tried to catch him and people who were declared guilty.
the one who killed random people were the other deathnote user... this is the reason why they found out that there is more than one Kira..he even said that this senseless murder should be stopped (because it gives away a wrong image of kira)

so if kira succeeds in creating a world withought criminalism.. i wouldn't mind it.. and i believe you wouldn't mind it too... but the question is:

is it really the right way? we all know it is impossible to achieve this without the deathnote

and THATS why it is difficult to tell if light is doing the right thing or not... he was the one who recieved the deathnote and he is the only one who could achieve such a world... so can we blame him because he used the chance he was given?

Kraco
Fri, 01-04-2008, 09:48 AM
if you kill my son, i will kill your son


It would take quite a barbarian society to have an insane law like that. It would suggest the sons inherit somehow the sins of their fathers, which is an idea that clashes with all modern sense of justice. If your father kills someone, it doesn't make you guilty of that crime. The son would be a totally innocent bystander.


and btw: light didn't kill people who were innocent.. he only killed people which tried to catch him and people who were declared guilty.

So... Let me get your stance here right. If a serial killer kills the cops who try to catch him, you think that's ok? Hmm... While getting hurt is a risk in the life of any field duty police officer, it doesn't make it right or justified to kill them just in order to avoid getting caught. Even if you are falsely accused of a crime you aren't allowed to kill the officers who come to arrest you. You are supposed to clear yourself in the court of law (and possibly get compensation for being mistakenly accused). Now, that system isn't perfect but it's a whole lot more perfect than a system where some barely adult arrogant dude sits in his room and decides who gets to live and who needs to die, with no room for appeals.

Edit: Actually I didn't mind the whole plot of the series at all before Light started to kill random people he considered might be a danger to his killing spree. At that point he lost all my sympathies and I began to wait for him to get caught.

MFauli
Fri, 01-04-2008, 10:04 AM
Edit: Actually I didn't mind the whole plot of the series at all before Light started to kill random people he considered might be a danger to his killing spree. At that point he lost all my sympathies and I began to wait for him to get caught.

Light wanted to save the world, or rath human society. Those who oppose him oppose the rescue of human society, and therefore are just as criminal as murderers.

Kraco
Fri, 01-04-2008, 10:25 AM
Really, now? I think he just wanted to kill people he didn't consider worth the right to live or people who were a nuisance to him. If he could use his considerable intelligence to make those deaths puzzling he got all the better kicks out of it. He simply enjoyed the power like any arrogant megalomaniac. However, it's no good even for your own self-respect to say you kill because you enjoy killing so it's better to mask it under a pretense of making a better world and saying the victims deserved to die.

MFauli
Fri, 01-04-2008, 11:27 AM
Really, now? I think he just wanted to kill people he didn't consider worth the right to live or people who were a nuisance to him.


He never did something like that.
He killed murderers and other criminals and those who opposed him.

David75
Fri, 01-04-2008, 12:27 PM
He never did something like that.
He killed murderers and other criminals and those who opposed him.

And how does your statement oppose Kraco's.
You agree with him he killed those who oppose him, even if they were with the just cause (the guy from the FBI and her girlfrienx ex-FBI, he killed the later with a very specific mindset: pleasure/thrill in the hunt/way of attaining his goal)
At some point he became uterly psychotic.

MFauli
Fri, 01-04-2008, 12:36 PM
And how does your statement oppose Kraco's.
You agree with him he killed those who oppose him, even if they were with the just cause (the guy from the FBI and her girlfrienx ex-FBI, he killed the later with a very specific mindset: pleasure/thrill in the hunt/way of attaining his goal)
At some point he became uterly psychotic.

No.
To Light, these FBI-guys werent on the side of justice. HE tried to create a perfect world, and those opposed him.
It was never a case of pleasure/thrill

Abdula
Fri, 01-04-2008, 12:58 PM
@Mfauli and KrayZ Light was clearly insane and he did in fact kill people just because he didn't consider them worthy and he what he did was without question wrong, I don't care how you try to justify it.

He didn't just kill criminals he killed anyone who opposed and he didn't do it because of any sense of justice. I'm sure that is what he allowed himself to believe in the beginning but that is not what he was doing, he killed anyone he deemed unworthy and not only did he kill anyone who opposed him but he also killed people who just happened to be in his way whether they were good or not. Light was selfish, he was a cowardly dictator who wanted to rule the world he wasn't doing this to create a utopia he was no different from any other villain we've seen he just happened to be the "protagonist" thats all. What he wanted to do was rule the world and he only allowed those who didn't get in his way to live. The dude was bad, he was a villain plain and simple.

I don't consider myself to be a good person, nor do I consider myself to be a bad person but because I don't experience "guilt" or have a "conscience" and do things that may or may not hurt other people and don't really care whether it does or not people consider me to be bad. I unlike Light however have rules and principals I live by although I can't say I would be any different than Light was if I had that power but the power is what went to his head and made him believe that he was something more than human and could then control, manipulate and judge people and their lives because he was superior to them. Light was no different that someone like Orochimaru or Hitler because he too was trying to create a utopia I guess you think he was right too then.



well its because you can't see through lights actions...
its difficult for me to explain because my english sucks but i'll give it a try..

what do you think will people do when they know there is someone who punishes you in an instant if you do something like rape/murder and stuff... i believe they wouldn't do it anymore... criminalism like this would simply stop

It you paid attention Light's actions didn’t stop any crime nor does punishing criminals with prison sentences, torture or even death. It’s a part of human nature we are supposed to be evolved but sometimes we act just like animals. Some people just don’t care about what the punishment for their actions are , like Light he didn’t care that he couldn't go to heaven or hell and I suppose since we all know where he would end up he was better off not going. Anyway some people just don’t care whether they will be punished or not and some people will always convince themselves that they will be able to get away with what they did, again like Light.


and btw
history showed us that there have to be sacrifices to create a new and better order..
you have to kill 100 to safe 100000 sometimes... thats life.
and there is a saying which goes like "kill 1 to scare a hundred" and thats what light does... he kills a few criminals to scare everyone so that they won't become criminals anymore

Yes there have to be sacrifices to create a new order but there has yet to be a better order. With all the sacrifices and all the people who have died throughout history not much has changed. There are just as many criminals now as there ever was if not more, the weak are still being taking advantage of by the strong, the rich and powerful still operate without consequence and no one really cares what you do to others as long as it doesn’t affect them. Really nothing has changed society's ridiculous double standards are still there, people are just ignorant of them.


so i wouldn't say "it was all wrong"... and btw did you never thought of something like "damn this bastard.. i wish he would simply die" after hearing something in the news like "person xyz raped and killed 25 12-17 years old children" and so on? isn't it just natural to think he deserves the death sentence?

No I don’t wish they would die, sure I think they should be punished but I don’t view death as punishment. No one knows what happens when you die and eventually we will all die so killing them doesn’t really change anything. Someone like that should be forced to live a long life and be tortured, abused and ridiculed through out and made to suffer for the rest of their lives. Death is an escape, Death is easy, Life is what is hard.


we used to live with the code ( i m not sure what it is called in english) "eye to eye, tooth to tooth" which simply means if you kill my son, i will kill your son
or
if you do something bad to me, i will do something bad to you

people used to live like that for thousands of years it was even written down in the law they used to have, so it can't be THAT wrong can it?

Sure and eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth but then everyone would be blind, toothless and dead. You do something bad to me I do something bad to you and then it just keeps escalating and we end up doing worse and worse things to each other. At some point one of us would kill each other and then some one would exact revenge on the murderer and then someone would kill his murderer and on and on and on. The reason people stopped living like that or I should say the reason that it is no longer accepted is because it doesn’t work.


light didn't kill people who were innocent.. he only killed people which tried to catch him and people who were declared guilty.
the one who killed random people were the other deathnote user... this is the reason why they found out that there is more than one Kira..he even said that this senseless murder should be stopped (because it gives away a wrong image of kira)

Uh light did kill innocent people are you kidding me and even those criminals he killed he had no way of knowing whether they were in fact guilty or not sure they were convicted but that doesn’t prove they were guilty. Light only wanted him to stop because he wanted the power to himself, he wanted to rule the world, he wanted to be the one to choose who should live or die, him and him alone. The wrong image of Kira was also all about him, he was Kira, Kira was what he viewed his true self to be some one bringing down the image of who or what he thought himself to be was an insult to him.


so if kira succeeds in creating a world withought criminalism.. i wouldn't mind it.. and i believe you wouldn't mind it too... but the question is:

is it really the right way? we all know it is impossible to achieve this without the deathnote

and THATS why it is difficult to tell if light is doing the right thing or not... he was the one who recieved the deathnote and he is the only one who could achieve such a world... so can we blame him because he used the chance he was given?

A world without criminals will never exist atleast not in this life or this reality. Whether he had a death note or not wouldn’t change that all he would do was kill until he felt only the worthy people survived eventually someone sooner or later would commit a crime or do something he deemed unworthy and he would kill them. That would continue until he alone was left because in actuality he was the only person he felt was worthy. He thought that he was better than everyone else and if he was eliminating everyone who was not up to his standard then sooner or later it would be only him.

God that was long. All of that being said Light is still one of my favorite characters ever, he is endlessly interesting and he is a lot like me.:)

KrayZ33
Fri, 01-04-2008, 02:27 PM
It you paid attention Light's actions didn’t stop any crime


his actions did

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well this has nothing to do with kira now but i would like to know what you would do because its another ethic question..

an old man in a coma (let him be 80-85), only able to live with the help of machines and drones in his body, probably.. he will never wake up again. Person1: "okay lets cut of the machines and let him rest" Person 2: "oh nooooo you can't do that he still alive!"

the old man probably wants to die by himself (we can't know that) and leeches masses of moneys from other people because the medical treatment is very expensive.
so i ask you would you take him of the net and let him die? i would lol ~~ but well its a bad thing to do in the opinion of many people. well however i gain something positive (and other people too because they don't have to pay high taxes and stuff like that)

i think its the same with kira..he did something bad but actually many people gained from it.. and im not talking about people in a high position, no, normal citizens gained from it because it reduced the criminal rate by a great factor and many people felt save during the time of his "reign"

Abdula
Fri, 01-04-2008, 02:51 PM
80-85, yeah well at that age he has already lived a long life so. I don't really care for what is good or bad. Good bad, right or wrong its all relative. I judge whats good or bad based on intentions, actions and outcomes. If you do something that can be viewed as bad but in the end the outcome helps others then it must then be good right but lets say you do the exact same thing but this time it only helps yourself and hurts others then is it bad. Like I said its all relative, whether his actions helped others or not doesn't matter it was still bad. Good people sometimes do bad things and bad people sometimes do good things whether it was their intention or not.

Yukimura
Fri, 01-04-2008, 06:30 PM
Light's plan always had my support since I don't subscribe to "right or wrong", I subscribe to consequences and results. What messed up Light was his ego. He started out killing the worst, repeat offender, convicted career criminals, then people who had clearly done bad things but had cheated the system in some way. In my opinion a person's life is not worth the suffering that it can inflict upon another person. So killing people who have a demonstrative tendency to break laws and commit violent crimes doesn't really bother me,

Where Light fell short though was in his obsession with being known and recognized and in his inability to suppress his desire to kill anyone those who opposed him. His confrontation with L revealed that he saw what he was doing, at least partially, as a game to amuse himself instead of a pure mission to improve the world. With that he loses his any personal righteousness in my eyes, but his attempt to improve the daily lives of decent everyday people by sowing fear inot the hearts of those who would commit crimes was a good idea in my book. It's too bad that the justice Light felt he embodied was skewed primarily towards himself, and not something abstract like the reduction of suffering.

Light's method did show good results though results and lots of people ended up not committing crimes out of the fear of instant death should they be discovered. Light's idea if properly executed should have reduced crime more than any other action could have, though of course nothing could stop it all together.

MFauli
Fri, 01-11-2008, 03:44 PM
Damn, all the talk here got me...

Does anyone know where i can download Death Note now?
I already searched a bit, but the torrent i used stopped at 77% of the first episode.
DVDs are not available in my country, and i plan to buy the series once its available, but i need to watch it now ^^

I alredy saw the whole series, just want to rewatch it now.

Kraco
Fri, 01-11-2008, 03:48 PM
Boxtorrents. Well seeded, as expected.

MFauli
Fri, 01-11-2008, 04:07 PM
Hm, i can find two torrents there, one doesnt work at all, the other one stops after short time.

Thanks for the link, but im still looking for a working torrent :-(

David75
Fri, 01-11-2008, 04:32 PM
Hm, i can find two torrents there, one doesnt work at all, the other one stops after short time.

Thanks for the link, but im still looking for a working torrent :-(
With 218 seeds as I write this this torrent should work:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/863362

Yukimura
Fri, 01-11-2008, 05:24 PM
Death Note DDLs courtesy of Spiegel, If you're in to that sort of thing: http://shinigami-only-eat-apples.net/site/

David75
Fri, 01-11-2008, 06:07 PM
Death Note DDLs courtesy of Spiegel, If you're in to that sort of thing: http://shinigami-only-eat-apples.net/site/


For the Director's Cut Final conclusion (2 hours ep), I Found an alternate DL from Kuro Han and High Def too. I think you shouldn't miss that one ;)

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=8265

MFauli
Fri, 01-11-2008, 07:09 PM
THx a lot

Spiegel
Sat, 01-12-2008, 02:30 AM
THx a lot

Your Welcome

David75
Sun, 01-13-2008, 11:26 AM
It's still possible to discuss Death note here?
If not just delete...

Well I have seen the special, I guess it was to have a great audience because of all the sponsors you see at each break. Amazing.

Regarding this 2 hours ep, it a summary for all of the series, so it's a bit boring when you already have seen everything. Sometimes it would have been hard to make connections for someone who would not have seen the whole series.
However, in a way it's great because it doesn't show what happens after L's death... and it can not be considered an alternate ending in the way we do not witness Light's death.
Rather it's a kind of well thought shortcut that leaves everything open beetween L and Light's death period of time.
Watch this only if you truly loved the show, or you will just find it boring as you would think you watch everything over again.

Junior
Tue, 01-15-2008, 11:04 AM
I started watching Death Note til episode...15 or something. Then I got bored. I'm planning to continue sometime.

My favs were Misa and L. <3

Subiedubidoo
Thu, 01-17-2008, 01:37 PM
DeathNote just kicks, i just love the whole plot and the direction in which it proceeds.
how the characters are, their decisions reactions and feelings.
a must watch, im sure everyone will love this one

Psyke
Sun, 02-03-2008, 10:47 AM
L: Change the World will premiere here next week. I'm getting hyped up for it although I know it will definately be hard to top the other 2 Death Note movies. Doesn't help when you know that L will stay alive throughout the movie.

Movie Spoiler!

For the unaware, this movie takes place between the 23 days after he wrote his own name in the Death Note, before the final confrontation with Kira.

Check out the subbed trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgGwyC-kCyE).

Chiodos
Mon, 02-04-2008, 10:32 AM
Man, that's awesome although I preferd the second movie before the first one. But then again, the ending in the first movie were just....yaaay ^^! And I don't get it, there's gonna be a new movie?

Movie Spoiler!


Didn't we see L die peacefully in his chair? No ?

Psyke
Mon, 02-04-2008, 10:50 AM
Didn't we see L die peacefully in his chair? No ?

In case you've missed it:


This movie takes place between the 23 days after he wrote his own name in the Death Note, before the final confrontation with Kira.

Psyke
Sun, 02-24-2008, 02:57 AM
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4654/360x250lchangeworld5zx8.jpg

Just watched the movie L: Change the World. Although it doesn't really talks about the Death Notes since it's an original story, it was still entertaining. If you're interested to know more, click the link in my sig.

Archangel
Thu, 04-10-2008, 05:44 PM
Well... i just watched the last episode and omg i can't believe light lost to those 2 loosers! If this anime had stoped after l's death i would have to add it to my epic animes list but it's still awsome

MFauli
Thu, 04-10-2008, 07:43 PM
You know, Death Note is one of these anime where an alternate version would be great. Like the 1 million different versions of Neon Genesis Evangelion, to name an example.

Archangel
Fri, 04-11-2008, 09:41 AM
Well the director's cut ending isn't too bad, but since the begining of the anime i was prepared to see either L or Light lose so it was a kick in the balls when they both did

Anyway, i just wished the light hadn't been beaten in such a retarded way, it wasn't even his fault he got caught it was all thanks to Mikami...

Chiodos
Sat, 04-12-2008, 02:59 AM
I think Lights way to die was yay retarded in the anime.

Rhanfahl
Wed, 05-28-2008, 09:58 PM
Hmm...haven't read or watched this yet...but it sounds a lot like a book by Chuck Palahniuk called "Lullaby".

Archangel
Thu, 05-29-2008, 01:48 PM
I think Lights way to die was yay retarded in the anime.

I also preferred his death on the manga

Mizuchi
Fri, 05-30-2008, 10:02 PM
how did he die in the manga?

Archangel
Sat, 05-31-2008, 06:31 AM
Light begged for his life, even asking Ryuk to save him by writing all of his enemies names on the DeathNote but he just wrote Light's name on it.

It was really intense to see such a strong character break under the pressure like that.

Edit: Is it ok to post this is the anime section ?

Mizuchi
Sat, 05-31-2008, 10:01 AM
why did ryuk write his name in it, in both anime and manga?

Archangel
Sat, 05-31-2008, 11:00 AM
If you remember back to the first episodes Ryuk did say he would be the one who would kill Light

Besides after seeing that Light was finished Ryuk decided to put an end to his little adventure i guess.

Mizuchi
Sat, 05-31-2008, 12:28 PM
Why? I thought they were friends.. =[

Archangel
Sat, 05-31-2008, 03:31 PM
Why? I thought they were friends.. =[

Nah they weren't friends, they were just using each other.

Mizuchi
Sat, 05-31-2008, 04:12 PM
Nah they weren't friends, they were just using each other.
i thought they were friends... *cries*

Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Wed, 06-04-2008, 10:05 AM
I love this anime.... just finished it for the 2nd time, and watched the first two movies.

Movies were alright, if you can look past the way that actor portrays Light (He didn't convince me he was a genius mass murderer) Which I can since Lawliet > Light

Anyone seen the spin off move, L: Change the WorLd? I can't seem to find it.


Has it been subbed yet?

Archangel
Wed, 06-04-2008, 10:17 AM
I love this anime.... just finished it for the 2nd time, and watched the first two movies.

Movies were alright, if you can look past the way that actor portrays Light (He didn't convince me he was a genius mass murderer) Which I can since Lawliet > Light

Anyone seen the spin off move, L: Change the WorLd? I can't seem to find it.


Has it been subbed yet?

Reality will never be able to surpass anime :p

itadakimasu
Wed, 06-04-2008, 11:50 AM
I cant claim to be a fan of the death note series, I read the first couple volumes of the manga and thought it was kinda cool but didn't keep reading, and only watched a couple episodes of the anime.

They had the movie a few weeks ago here... I really didn't know it would be in english for one. There was alot of parts where it would show people on their phones or newspapers and its all in jap w\ no subs. By the end of the movie I was very disappointed... i guess I was just expecting it to be alot better.

GhostKaGe
Fri, 06-06-2008, 01:57 PM
Apparently Vertigo Entertainment the guys behind the The Departed remake have bought the rights to remake Death Note

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-06-02/vertigo-entertainment-developing-u.s-death-note-remake

Anyone know if this is true?

Animeniax
Thu, 06-26-2008, 10:36 AM
The anime in this gif looks amazing, but does anyone know what series this is? I want to see the rest of it:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3974/1179278506080wc3.gif

Tyreal
Thu, 06-26-2008, 10:40 AM
That's Death Note. It is an excellent series btw.

David75
Thu, 06-26-2008, 10:40 AM
The anime in this gif looks amazing, but does anyone know what series this is? I want to see the rest of it:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3974/1179278506080wc3.gif


I'd start maybe with the ones that did the designs for deathnote as this one seems pretty near in that department.

Guess you had this idea already

Edit:
gosh that guy was quicker:

That's Death Note. It is an excellent series btw.

So it's really death note, I wasn't able to clearly identify the scene.
He could be L, but something seems different.
And Light's paw was more athletic?

Tyreal
Thu, 06-26-2008, 10:43 AM
I'd start maybe with the ones that did the designs for deathnote as this one seems pretty near in that department.

Guess you had this idea already

I'm almost 100% positive it is Death Note. The guy making those movements is the guy Light chose to be the user of the Death Note after he was unable to use it (this is towards the end of the series), I can't remember what his name is off the top of my head atm, and I can't check because my HDD that head Death Note on it just died (it was a hardware failure so there is little chance I'll be able to get it back :( )

Edit: I just done a quick wiki search and the guys name was Teru Mikami and he was the fourth Kira.

Second Edit: Yep it's Death Note, that scene is from episode 32.

Sapphire
Thu, 06-26-2008, 11:22 AM
That really is an awesome gif. Ah, Death Note.

David75
Thu, 06-26-2008, 12:11 PM
I'm almost 100% positive it is Death Note. The guy making those movements is the guy Light chose to be the user of the Death Note after he was unable to use it (this is towards the end of the series), I can't remember what his name is off the top of my head atm, and I can't check because my HDD that head Death Note on it just died (it was a hardware failure so there is little chance I'll be able to get it back :( )

Edit: I just done a quick wiki search and the guys name was Teru Mikami and he was the fourth Kira.

Second Edit: Yep it's Death Note, that scene is from episode 32.

So that was really Light's paw... the one giving an edge, enabling Light's fall...

Kraco
Thu, 06-26-2008, 12:42 PM
Merged with the Death Note main thread so that you can wonder at the dramatic camera angles in perfect peace.

Animeniax
Thu, 06-26-2008, 02:23 PM
Oh cool, so it's Death Note after all. I've seen the entire series, but didn't recognize that scene. I didn't see the resemblance because in the gif, it looks like the guy's "spidey-sense" was tingling, then he deflects a sneak attack (the red arc) with his blade (the blue arc). So I thought it was something else.

I'm only mildly disappointed that this isn't from some new anime that I'd like to see.

Archangel
Thu, 06-26-2008, 03:54 PM
It's from a great old anime that you should review Ani :D

Animeniax
Fri, 06-27-2008, 01:37 AM
I've never been the kind of person to want to re-watch a series or movie or even re-play a video game. Especially a series like Death Note where you know the outcome and you already know all of the surprises that made it really interesting, so it's hard for me to spend time watching it again.

Sapphire
Fri, 06-27-2008, 02:16 AM
Same here. Except I can watch a movie I -really- love over and over again until I get sick of it, then never again, haha. Or maybe several years later, when I don't remember what happens anymore.

Animeniax
Fri, 06-27-2008, 03:10 AM
Yet there are some movies that I'll always watch if they air on TV, like Patriot Games and Hunt for Red October and Crimson Tide, but I don't own any of them on DVD or digital media.

I tried to re-watch Naruto from the beginning, but stopped after 20 episodes because it seemed like a waste of time. I think if it's a show that requires an emotional investment, then it's only worth doing once. Whereas shows that are just entertainment can be enjoyed at a much more shallow level multiple times. Death Note is one of those high emotion shows that I can only watch once.

ForteCross
Mon, 06-30-2008, 07:59 AM
there was a novel about death note, it was translated to english but i cant seem to find it, i dont really live in the us so it will be a problem getting it, maybe someone have a link to download it?

Archangel
Mon, 06-30-2008, 01:03 PM
Wrong thread dude, ask around on the download section.

So there's a novel about Death Note? Does it have an original story or does it revolve about the original?

ForteCross
Mon, 06-30-2008, 02:52 PM
its before the death note and all, an investigation with L and the chick that light killed (ray pembar's wife)

Buffalobiian
Tue, 07-01-2008, 12:57 AM
its before the death note and all, an investigation with L and the chick that light killed (ray pembar's wife)

So a prequel. That would be a nice addition to the story, since L's my favourite out of all the characters.

I've just finished this, and boy, it was a hell of a ride. When L died, it felt like half the enjoyment died with it, but it built up enough to get me through to the ending. Great series indeed.

Animeniax
Tue, 07-01-2008, 01:05 AM
There was a prequel movie called "L: Change the World", but it was released in Japan/Asia. I'd imagine there's a book/manga version and probably an anime version coming out.

Psyke
Tue, 07-01-2008, 04:27 AM
There was a prequel movie called "L: Change the World", but it was released in Japan/Asia. I'd imagine there's a book/manga version and probably an anime version coming out.

It's actually a sequel movie.


L: Change the World will premiere here next week. For the unaware, this movie takes place between the 23 days after he wrote his own name in the Death Note, after the final confrontation with Kira.

Check out the subbed trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgGwyC-kCyE).

Archangel
Tue, 07-01-2008, 06:35 PM
A sequel? Than that means that neither Light or L show up?

In that case screw that, Death Note without those guys isn't worth shit

XanBcoo
Tue, 07-01-2008, 06:51 PM
there was a novel about death note, it was translated to english but i cant seem to find it, i dont really live in the us so it will be a problem getting it, maybe someone have a link to download it?
http://somniamemorias.com/2008/05/death-note-spin-off/

This is what you're referring to I think. I don't know where it's available for download, though.

Edit: I watched part of the Deathnote movies on Youtube. The acting was so awful I couldn't watch more than 20 minutes.

Psyke
Thu, 07-03-2008, 08:20 AM
A sequel? Than that means that neither Light or L show up?

In that case screw that, Death Note without those guys isn't worth shit

The movie's called L: Change The World. So...... L's the main character.

Sapphire
Wed, 07-16-2008, 08:07 AM
Link for L: Change the World

http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-388556/L-Change-the-World-Movie-Part-1.html

L is freaking hot.. but the terribleness of the first Death Note movie... a hard decision to attempt this one!

Psyke
Wed, 07-16-2008, 11:26 AM
L is freaking hot.. but the terribleness of the first Death Note movie... a hard decision to attempt this one!

Trust me, the first 2 movies are better. :cool:

Necromas
Thu, 09-11-2008, 04:23 PM
Technically it's not really a sequel, it takes place just before the last scene in the second part of the first movie, so L is still alive and it's what he was doing in the time he had before he died.

Anyways, I came here to post this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fUlNEsHZTc

salmonman78
Wed, 01-07-2009, 09:39 PM
Necropost ftw!

Am up to Episode 22 and noticed there are some live action movies, they any decent?

Cant wait to watch it more tonight, just have to wait til I get to work now.

Archangel
Thu, 01-08-2009, 03:33 PM
Am up to Episode 22 and noticed there are some live action movies, they any decent?

In 1 word? No

They're just an excuse to milk some more money from the fans.

Psyke
Fri, 01-09-2009, 03:47 AM
I watched in the theaters and bought the DVDs. :o