Death Note [Archive] - Page 2

MyNindo

Sat, 01-13-2007, 07:19 PM

I dont know if you guys heard the news, but Death Note was bought by VIZ Media not too long ago, which means it'll be coming to th U.S. soon!!!! I have see up to 12 dubbed episodes though that great invention, TORRENT files. Unfortunatly, the site I was getting it from will no longer make it, but Im willing to wait.

In November, Death Note the Movie came out in Japan. Now this I Can't wait for!! I have seen the Any info on where to get it English Dubbed would be appreciated. And to the GotWoot Admin PPL out there, Everyone and there Mothers are looking for this movie. We are all waiting.....;)

What do You think.....?

NeoBear

Sat, 01-13-2007, 07:22 PM

this could have went in the other death note thread gl with the hate you are about to recive. but i didnt know anything about a death note movie?

MyNindo

Sat, 01-13-2007, 07:48 PM

Topic merged, posts merged, and Idiot warned...carry on. -MOD

Where did you get 13 at? My site stopped making them, cause Death Note was Bought by VIZ Media.....

but i didnt know anything about a death note movie?

I seen the previews on YouTube,English Subbed......check it out.

darkmetal505

Sat, 01-13-2007, 08:20 PM

@Knives

Yea, I'm to lazy to download, well, at least until I'm sure of the quality. I did watch it on crunchyroll though, and they aren't half bad. The movie is on crunchyroll if anyone wants to view it. www.crunchyroll.com

NeoBear

Sat, 01-13-2007, 10:39 PM

i didnt think the Kubu sub was bad at all but the video quality was kinda grainy but otherwise not a bad sub and i cant wait for 14 =D

Yukimura

Sat, 01-13-2007, 11:59 PM

Death Note - 13 by Animenoobs Fansubbers (They do Detective Conan) (http://anfs.fansub-torrents.com/%28anfs%29Death%20Note%2013%5BB032CEA1%5D.torrent)

Death Note - 13 by Under9000 (Never heard of these people) (http://no-sry.us/%5BUnder9000%5D_Death_Note_13.avi.torrent)

Some new groups getting in on the vacancy, the system still works, with luck one of these three new groups will manage to be prompt and decent.

Psyke

Sun, 01-14-2007, 04:25 AM

I'm downloading the version from ANFS. As for the one from Under9000, I'm not too sure about it. I saw their link from Tokyo Toshokan yesterday, but their homepage linked to one full of yaoi pictures and looked like a jap message board.... so try at your own risk.

As for the Death note movies, I've seen both and think they are great. It's complete on their own, so you do not need to read the manga to understand what's happening. As with all movie adaptations, certain arcs are cut out. I'm not sure as I've not read the manga (yet), but as far as I know the 2 movies were hits in Asia and are most probably making their way aboard.

David75

Sun, 01-14-2007, 08:17 AM

It's not easy to judge a sub... especially when you do not know the language that is translated.
Should we know the language, at a point we can be sure to judge the subing quality, then we would just watch raws...

This is for the language part.

A part where we however have more to jude about is:
Fonts used
length of sentences
Time to read the sentences
when there are multiple characters, is it easy to recognize which sentence goes to which character... and is there enough time to read everything?

Sometimes, on some subs, you see a 15 words sentence that remains for less than a second or so. Even for a native english/american, I doubt it's possible to read it.

For DN, I have to say that it's quite readable, but sometimes we have phrases that deasapear too quickly to be read.
I know, sometimes it's too difficult to translate everything and give time to read...

c u

complich8

Sun, 01-14-2007, 12:10 PM

I watched about 2 minutes from both anfs and under9000.

First thing I noticed: anfs is high-res (720p). Unter9000 is a smaller 704x400.
Second thing I noticed: I'm not quite sure I trust either translation ...

example: 6:44-6:55

<Detective>It's always the same, these things happen at the worst times...
Yeah?
<L>It's Ryuuzaki. After you get there, be sure to keep an eye on Light-kun. And good luck to you.

With the little bit of japanese I've picked up in my years of watching fansubs, I don't hear anything like "good luck" ... which is also a bit of a non-sequitur. I don't trust it.

<Detective>I just came out and the phone rings....
Yes.
<L>This is Ryuuzaki.
When you are in Aoyama and Shibuya, please cooperate with Light, but also pay attention to his every move. Make it a secret, please."
I didn't hear anything about Aoyama or Shibuya either, but that could be editorial license in play. I could make out a fast and slurred "himitsu" that makes me think they're closer to correct, but have more than is necessary in there, leading to a very long line that could really be pared down and cleaned up without losing any meaning at all.

In either case, I'd probably call for a translation check. Editing on both is pretty weak compared to the tw and l-e releases in the past. Typesets ... so-so, not compelling. Encode? Comparing them is somewhat apples-to-oranges because one's HD and the other's not... so I'll pass on that :).

I'm not going to do a whole detailed script comparison, 'cause I kinda feel like crap right now :p. But if I were to pick one over the other, I'd probably pick anfs over u9k. I'm thinking maybe animanda is a better choice though... if you're patient :).

Oakleya

Sun, 01-14-2007, 02:13 PM

In November, Death Note the Movie came out in Japan. Now this I Can't wait for!! I have seen the Any info on where to get it English Dubbed would be appreciated. And to the GotWoot Admin PPL out there, Everyone and there Mothers are looking for this movie. We are all waiting.....;)

Oh is that movie nonanime? cause i've seen the begining.. i dont like it a bit, probably cause it's pretty much the same story with a little different plot.

imanewb

Mon, 01-15-2007, 12:09 AM

http://animanda.edwardk.info/%5BAnimanda%5D%20Death%20Note%20-%2013%20%5BCC98FD27%5D.avi.torrent
ep 13 from animanda =]

Psyke

Mon, 01-15-2007, 10:42 AM

David75

Mon, 01-15-2007, 03:37 PM

Nice ep.

Misa will add some spice to the future eps, eventhough I really do not like the way she's introduced when I analyse it straight. On much complex levels however, that could be very interresting. Although Light should always lead in the end, as the hero... but no one can be so sure of that... since after all he's an anti-hero.

I'd like to know more about L too. After all, he's made very different from anyone in the anime/manga.
What made him so different, why is he that smart, why those eyes, why such a reaction to "shinigami" eps ago...?

c u

Munsu

Mon, 01-15-2007, 03:57 PM

I'm downloading the animanda version to make a comparison too. I've also found what seems to be another sub group called Death God fansubs. You might wanna take a look at what they have to offer too. Seems like we'll still be getting our Death Note anime fix after all. :)
I took a peek at DG, and it seems that they may be TW in disguise. I could be mistaken as I haven't been following the series. Though, episode 13 might've been the last one translated by AK of Troy, so if they indeed continue it be wary of their quality as they only had a good translator going for them. If they indeed find another translator I very much doubt they'll be any good. I haven't seen Animanda, but apparently they're good enough from what I have read from other posters.

darkshadow

Mon, 01-15-2007, 05:03 PM

good ep, now we have the dramatic hug, anyway, i watched anfs, dg and animanda, and animanda was definitly the best, for those who wanted to know.

High Wind

Mon, 01-15-2007, 08:20 PM

That was another great episode. With the addition of Misa's eyes, the Kira's become all the more deadly. Gotta love Death Note, dramatic writing, dramatic potato chip eating, dramatic tennis, dramatic cell phone calls, and now dramatic hugs. What more could you possible want? Did I miss anything?

Anyways, I'm eager to see how he'll utilize Misa's Death God eyes. It should be interesting to say the least.

DDBen

Tue, 01-16-2007, 05:56 AM

looks like it will be animanda for me.

Episode 13V2. I'm not positive why they released a V2 I have both but I haven't compaired. http://animanda.edwardk.info/%5BAnimanda%5D_Death_Note_-_13v2_%5BCEDDF964%5D.avi.torrent

If anyone knows of a better subber feel free to let me know. So far though for that episode they seemed to do a good job with nothing that seemed horribly out of place.

Great episode its always interesting to see how they handle the plot twists in this series and I'm definatly glad so many groups are trying to sub it.

Psyke

Tue, 01-16-2007, 10:43 AM

I've just watched the animanda and the Death God fansub versions, and I'm picking the DG one over animanda. Reason? They're using "shinigami" instead of "Death God". Just a personal preference.

David75

Tue, 01-16-2007, 01:59 PM

I've just watched the animanda and the Death God fansub versions, and I'm picking the DG one over animanda. Reason? They're using "shinigami" instead of "Death God". Just a personal preference.

It seems to be a preference among quite a lot of people.
When they hear a japanese word often, and know the translation, they prefer to read it as they hear it.

I've seen that with onii-chan, onee-chan or nee-san (AMG...), Oba-san etc...

To me the main interrest is that is facilitates the synchronisation between what we read and the action.

C u

BioAlien

Tue, 01-16-2007, 10:34 PM

I'm kinda lost here...

So which group is still subbing DeathNote? And have a good video/sub quality?
Website please :(

Munsu

Tue, 01-16-2007, 10:52 PM

I'm kinda lost here...

So which group is still subbing DeathNote? And have a good video/sub quality?
Website please :(
DeathGod-Fansubs:
http://depthstrike.com/~deathgodfansubs/torrent.php/%5BDG%5D_Death_Note_EP13_%5B9EB29013%5D.avi.torren t

And

Animanda:
http://animanda.edwardk.info/%5BAnimanda%5D_Death_Note_-_13v2_%5BCEDDF964%5D.avi.torrent

BioAlien

Wed, 01-17-2007, 12:42 AM

DeathGod-Fansubs:
http://depthstrike.com/~deathgodfansubs/torrent.php/%5BDG%5D_Death_Note_EP13_%5B9EB29013%5D.avi.torren t

And

Animanda:
http://animanda.edwardk.info/%5BAnimanda%5D_Death_Note_-_13v2_%5BCEDDF964%5D.avi.torrent

Thanks, but which one has the "best" visual quality? And are the subs any good.

darkshadow

Wed, 01-17-2007, 01:46 AM

I say animanda.

David75

Wed, 01-17-2007, 02:27 AM

When possible, please try all the versions.
It will take you no more than 22 more minutes and you'll judge for yourself.

I would not like to see a long thread of arguments for suporting one group or another.

I'd rather read comments on that ep and what may arise next in the series.

All in all, when you analyse it, at 13 eps the setting is not totally complete. Quite a slow, but very dense, start. I think I'll enjoy it, seeing this series

c u

Psyke

Wed, 01-17-2007, 07:32 AM

Episode 14 from ANFS (http://anfs.fansub-torrents.com/%28anfs%29Death%20Note%2014%28794688E8%29.torrent)

Although I've said I would prefer DG's subs, I'm still compelled to download this because I really can't wait to see what's going to happen next. :o

Shinji Ikari

Wed, 01-17-2007, 09:21 AM

Is this a spoiler free thread or can I discuss ep 14 here?

I really need someone to talk to about this ep...

hitokiriender

Wed, 01-17-2007, 09:54 AM

Wow.. this episode was soo good..

I pray to all the shinigami for forgiveness to think I can last a few weeks without Death Notes. I am officially hooked again.

Psyke

Wed, 01-17-2007, 12:03 PM

Just watched it. What can I say? Another awesome episode. Nothing much actually happened, but the story just gets better and better. Can't wait for next week.

David75

Wed, 01-17-2007, 01:27 PM

mistake erased

Munsu

Wed, 01-17-2007, 01:32 PM

Is this a spoiler free thread or can I discuss ep 14 here?

I really need someone to talk to about this ep...
If it's fansubbed, you can talk about it.

@David75: Stop making shit up. If you don't want to get spoiled, don't enter a thread until you've watched the latest fansub. And please people don't start using different colors to hide "spoilers", if it was indeed a spoiler it shouldn't have been posted here anyways. So to sumarize, if it's fansubbed you can talk about it. And that's all we'll hear of this matter on this thread.

BioAlien

Thu, 01-18-2007, 12:25 AM

I just watched episode 13 from Animanda.

I must say.. the transition from LE to Animanda was easy for me... since it is almost the same (except animanda got a better visual quality than LE and the font for the sub are different)

Episode 13 was great i guess, the fake kira meet the real one. I so didn't saw the " Please make me your girlfriend! " part coming at all, that was a suprise.
Also,
why wasn't there a preview for episode 14 at the end of 13?

seanos

Thu, 01-18-2007, 04:31 AM

Episode 14 (http://gotnull.net/white-bunny/torrents/%5BWB%5D_Death_Note_14_%5B3D9F67A2%5D.avi.torrent) by White-Bunny (the sub groups seem to be popping up every which way for this).

kenren

Thu, 01-18-2007, 05:12 AM

Anyone watched episode 14 by White-Bunny? it would be nice if someone can compare the subs/video qualities .. =D

Kraco

Thu, 01-18-2007, 07:03 AM

I've been thinking here that if there was a nameless person, then the shinigami (or death note holders) couldn't kill him. A name is pretty much valid only if the person himself recognizes it as his real name. If a baby was orphaned before getting a name from his parents, and then grew up in war zone, or otherwise very compromised environment, barely surviving but not having any real relationships, that is, not having any particular caring people take care of him, then he might reach consciousness high enough to decide he won't accept any nick as his real name as long as he, for example, doesn't know the names of his parents. Thus later on such a rare person could use whatever fake names here and there to suit his purposes, but knowing in his mind he doesn't really have a name.

Now, Shinigami eyes might even be able to decipher his family name (from mother or father's side), but still that wouldn't matter, because the person himself wouldn't blink an eye if that name was called behind him, because it wouldn't mean anything to him. And besides, just the surname wouldn't be enough for the book. And in the real world chances are he would never find out the indentities of his long lost parents, so he would never get a real name for himself. So, looking into the future would help the shinigami no more.

Such a person would be totally safe from the shinigami and Kira. He would just die of cancer one day, or something, still nameless, never getting his nonexistent name written down.

Inazuma

Thu, 01-18-2007, 09:10 AM

And Babies are safe from the Death Note used as weapon because there is a restriction in it's use, you got to way something like 6 month to be a valid target for the death note.

But Kraco, you'r thinking too much, If a baby is adopted by wolves before the required time to be a valid Death note target, then what will happen ?
The kid, if he survived and targeted by Misa, will bear a "Awwoouuuuoooou"-kind of name above his head ?

You are about to toast away you'r last neurons Kraco, you can still be saved, stop the crazy suppositions.

About Eps 14 : Just ... great.

Psyke

Thu, 01-18-2007, 09:40 AM

Such a person would be totally safe from the shinigami and Kira. He would just die of cancer one day, or something, still nameless, never getting his nonexistent name written down.

There you go. The key to immortality! All you have to do is to forsake your name. :D

As for the topic of names...... why would some one bother to kill another who doesn't have a name to hold on to?

Kraco

Thu, 01-18-2007, 10:40 AM

The reason why I was even thinking along those trails is that L could be such a fellow. He's strange enough to not actually have a name at all. Thus, he couldn't even be killed using the Death Note. Light would just need to poison his ice-cream.

Well, I suppose that won't turn out to be the case. Wouldn't be very exciting, in the end, perhaps.

Edit: A weird typo...

Munsu

Thu, 01-18-2007, 11:34 AM

Anyone watched episode 14 by White-Bunny? it would be nice if someone can compare the subs/video qualities .. =D
Heard they were horrible, that's all I can say about it.

DDBen

Thu, 01-18-2007, 03:18 PM

Anyone watched episode 14 by White-Bunny? it would be nice if someone can compare the subs/video qualities .. =D

I downloaded and watched it the quality is no worse then say a early DB sub compaired to AONE/ANBU subs of Naruto. Its a speed sub its find if you need a quick fix but nothing worth archiving.

seanos

Thu, 01-18-2007, 06:08 PM

I see c1 is catching up - they're up to Episode 10 (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=276) now, I'd consider switching if they caught up in a decent amount of time (though haven't watched animanda yet).

Yukimura

Thu, 01-18-2007, 10:59 PM

Hmm anfs don't seem to have an editor, their 14 might be worse than a Your-Mom release. However, Death Note's awesomeness is greater than anfs's crappy syntax. Light must have soiled himself when Rem said she would kill L, but something is obviously going to mess that up. I can't imagine what, but it should be very interesting.

Psyke

Fri, 01-19-2007, 01:55 AM

I don't really see how a shinigami can mess up killing a person, so the only reason I can imagine is that because L called Light a "friend", Light will hesitate killing him using this method and will instead continue to challenge him in the battle of wits.

BioAlien

Fri, 01-19-2007, 02:52 AM

just a quick question (dunno if it was already posted)

Is it Yagami Light or Yagami Raito?
(because it sound like Raito to me... and even some website about death note use Raito instead of Light)

knifecrew

Fri, 01-19-2007, 04:19 AM

Raito would be the way they pronounce it in Japanese. Light is the english translation/pronunciation. Unless prefered otherwise.

Psyke

Fri, 01-19-2007, 10:42 AM

Online Death note (http://phoenity.com/deathnote/)

This was going to happen sooner or later. I'm not too sure whether it's a good thing, promoting hate and all that. But some of the entries are pretty funny. Thinking of adding one but I'm afraid it will really happen. Yes, I'm not kidding. Light Yagami I'm not. :o

BioAlien

Fri, 01-19-2007, 07:01 PM

I wrote 1, hehe
i know i didn't wrote his name right... ( it is Stephen, not steven)

Name :Steven Harper
Cause of death :Killed by a riot composed of angry women.
Details of his death :The 24th of april, Steven Harper will make an annoncement saying " Women have no longer the rights to vote and will get lower salary while working."
The next day, an angry mob of angry women with heavy weapon will rise from nowhere and use a total of 35 120 bullets on Steven Harper.

Munsu

Fri, 01-19-2007, 07:13 PM

just a quick question (dunno if it was already posted)

Is it Yagami Light or Yagami Raito?
(because it sound like Raito to me... and even some website about death note use Raito instead of Light)
It's supposed to be Light, the mangaka said his intentions was for the character to be called that in some volume of the manga. Don't remember which.

Psyke

Sat, 01-20-2007, 02:16 AM

A more detailed explaination and breakdown of Light's name:

Japanese kanji: 夜神月
English: Yagami Light

But because the Japanese hiragana do not have sounds started with L the closest is R, thus his name is pronounced as Raito, using the hiragana らい for "Rai", and と for "to". As long as official names go, it's Yagami Light, or Light Yagami if you want the surname to go last.

And remember Misa reading his name wrongly when she first saw him? That's because the character 月 is usually pronounced as "tsuki", which means the moon. In Light's case, it is pronounced differently, and is based on the english word "Light". This is why Misa commented on how unique Light's name was.

Hope this clears up any confusion.

masamuneehs

Sat, 01-20-2007, 12:30 PM

nice explanation psyke

well, i just find it sorta funny that a week or so ago we were all worried about nobody continuing to sub Death Note. But now there's like 5 groups who started from episode 13! Under9000, White-Bunny, Death God Fansubs and Animenoobs Fansubbers are all ones I've never heard of before (and have done about a combined nothing in fansubbing before this point), so I'm extra happy that c1 is doing this awesome show as well. They did right with Mushishi, so I trust them.

complich8

Sat, 01-20-2007, 02:33 PM

well, i just find it sorta funny that a week or so ago we were all worried about nobody continuing to sub Death Note. But now there's like 5 groups who started from episode 13!

Welcome to the fansubbing world.

If people like it, it'll get subbed. Maybe not subbed _well_ ... but subbed.

Deadfire

Mon, 01-22-2007, 09:50 PM

[DG]EP 14 (http://isohunt.com/download/16551887/death+note)

I don't know why but I'm following [DG]'s releases

xDarkMaster

Mon, 01-22-2007, 10:06 PM

Ep 14 (http://animanda.fansub-torrents.com/%5BAnimanda%5D_Death_Note_-_14_%5BF4D3E64C%5D.avi.torrent) is also out by animanda.

zibo

Tue, 01-23-2007, 01:10 AM

Just watched this ep, this anime is getting better and better. Can't wait to see if L's gonna die and how will Light kill Misa.

BioAlien

Tue, 01-23-2007, 02:04 AM

Just watched this ep, this anime is getting better and better. Can't wait to see if L's gonna die and how will Light kill Misa.

I don't think L is going to be easy to kill. He is after all, a "genius" and now he is Light "friend" so maybe Light will restrain himself(and misa) from killing him. But then again... we are talking about Light here, so.. we will have to wait and see what happen.

And as for killing Misa, if Rem kill L, she will die, so Light will just have to write misa name in his Death Note. Nothing big there.

ktchris69

Tue, 01-23-2007, 02:58 AM

I don't think L is going to be easy to kill. He is after all, a "genius" and now he is Light "friend" so maybe Light will restrain himself(and misa) from killing him. But then again... we are talking about Light here, so.. we will have to wait and see what happen.

And as for killing Misa, if Rem kill L, she will die, so Light will just have to write misa name in his Death Note. Nothing big there.
u sure about the part that rem killing L will make her die?? i though if it was done while interfering with another mortals death, then the shinigami wud die....if its normal killing rem will not die, right????

BioAlien

Tue, 01-23-2007, 03:58 AM

It's not normal killing, Rem is 'going' to kill L in order to protect Misa (and Light at the same time) so she will be killed, just like Jealous did before to protect Misa, Rem is going to die to protect her from L.

ktchris69

Tue, 01-23-2007, 04:32 AM

Hmmm. I thought Jealous protected Misa from DYING thats y he died, here were not taking about protection form DEATH, but from L, thats why i dont really agree on that point. from what i understood, if someone life's is scheduled to be taken away, trying to extend this life by taking another ones makes the shinigami responsible of this extension die and not protetion from another mortal. see what i mean?????

Psyke

Tue, 01-23-2007, 07:46 AM

Yup. I too think that by killing Light, nothing's going to happen to Rem because it isn't really "saving" Misa, but rather preventing Kira from being caught.

ktchris69

Tue, 01-23-2007, 08:13 AM

Yup. I too think that by killing Light, nothing's going to happen to Rem because it isn't really "saving" Misa, but rather preventing Kira from being caught.
hmmm u made a mistake in ur post, lolz, u mean "by killing L, nothing's going to happen to Rem because it isn't really "saving" Misa, but rather preventing Kira from being caught."

Kraco

Tue, 01-23-2007, 08:17 AM

Thinking like that would certainly make them quite lowly beings: To prevent someone from dying when her death should happen would be the gravest offence, yet killing someone when his time should not be over wouldn't be an offence at all. I don't know, that just seems illogical to me. Unless there are beings other than the shinigami we haven't yet seen that would oppose them. If that was the case, then there would be a balanced dualism: One side killing, one side preventing death, and doing the opposite would be punished.

ktchris69

Tue, 01-23-2007, 08:29 AM

hah, isnt it the whole basis of Death Note???? You can kill whenever you want, its only recently that shinigamis are punished if they try to extend the lifetime of someone

Psyke

Tue, 01-23-2007, 08:47 AM

You are right about the part on balance. Shinigami who kill to protect or prolong some body's life is deemed as useless and if then destroyed or killed. However, in the case of L and Rem (and yes I did make that stupid mistake earlier... darn), this is not what's happening. To Rem, L is just another regular guy, and killing him does not make a difference at all, because he is NOT a direct threat to Misa's life.

So to summarize:

Case 1: L tries to crack Kira case. Light gets caught. Rem kills L before this happens.

Case 2: L tries to kill Misa with sacharrin overdose. Rem kills L before this happens.

Obviously, Rem is going to die in case 2. For case 1, no direct saving/prolonging one's life takes place.And of course, Misa's going to be much happier should Light be safe. And lastly, my point would be that to Rem, L is just another human being that is not a threat to Misa directly.

On a side note, the DVDs of the 2 movies have been announced and their covers released! Check out here (http://www.vap.co.jp/deathnote/m/sale.html) if you want to get a glimpse of the cool cover art. No spoilers, but you do get to see the live actors.

*edited spelling mistake

Kraco

Tue, 01-23-2007, 09:05 AM

hah, isnt it the whole basis of Death Note???? You can kill whenever you want, its only recently that shinigamis are punished if they try to extend the lifetime of someone
Indeed. I wasn't saying that like it would be some problem for me. But this series has been full of all kinds of rules right from the beginning, so it's not "only recently" that people must mind all those twists.

On a side note, the DVDs of the 2 movies have been announced and their covers released! Check out here if you want to get a glimpse of the cool cover art. No spoilers, but you do get to see the live actors.
Light and L look pretty emo on the (first) cover, but I doubt that really reflects the films themselves...

el_boss

Tue, 01-23-2007, 10:46 AM

David75

Tue, 01-23-2007, 02:09 PM

Best show ever? Possibly.

Just finished watching ep 14. Truly amazing, one of smartest shows I've ever seen.

Theory: L is undead (so he has no remaining life span) or maybe even a death note owner himself so Rem can't kill him. Also maybe there is some sort of faction called "life gods" or something and L has a life note or something. Anyway I don't think that Rem will succed in killing L.

Rem said something about increasing Light life span by killing L but that it would not effect her. So I'm guessing that she won't suffer any consequences for killing L they way the situation look now.

I found a miss in the show. In one of the commercial info thingys it said "If you misspell a name more than four times the death note will be rendered useless" or something like that. When Light killed that moped riding rapist guy he wrote his name like 20 times and it still worked.

If I remember correctly:
Four times mispelled, the death note won't follow the way the person will die, instead this person will die from a simple heart attack.

That means that any scenario won't be followed if the name is mispelled.
We can think that the scenario includes its chronology.
So that could mean that four mispells leads to immediate simple heart attack.

That's quite important, because light sometimes is very imaginative in the scenarii he uses, this rule could expose him if he's not careful enough.

c u

High Wind

Tue, 01-23-2007, 02:22 PM

Just finished 14, man that was good.

On the whole "Rem killing L will kill Rem" issue. I'm going to have to agree with the people that say Rem will be unaffected by killing L. If I recall, a Shinigami will only die if they prevent someone else from DYING, not protecting someone from possible dangers. Also another thing I thought about while watching this episode was the question "does Rem still have the eyes?" The Eye agreement hasn't really been elaborated on as far as I can remember. They simply stated that to get the Shinigami Eye's you need to trade half your remaining lifespan. They didn't say anything about whether the Shinigami involved in the trade gives that human their eyes or just creates a new pair for the user.

As always, Death Note remains to be one of the most intriguing shows I've watched.

Kraco

Tue, 01-23-2007, 02:56 PM

Four times mispelled, the death note won't follow the way the person will die, instead this person will die from a simple heart attack.

What person dies? You have to write a person's name in the book in order to kill him. If you misspell a name, it's not the person's name. It could be somebody else's name in the incorrect form, but not that person's name, so I can't see how that could kill anybody, no matter how many times you write it.

The two simplest rules of the book are writing a name and having the corresponding face in your mind. A misspelled name doesn't fulfill that simple rule.

And besides, the series even says: "The Death Note will be rendered useless if the victim's name is misspelled four times."

Edit: Maybe L's real name is some totally bizarre foreign name that nobody can spell correctly (especially using katakana)...

Psyke

Tue, 01-23-2007, 04:45 PM

I found a miss in the show. In one of the commercial info thingys it said "If you misspell a name more than four times the death note will be rendered useless" or something like that. When Light killed that moped riding rapist guy he wrote his name like 20 times and it still worked.

Light being so lucky might have gotten it correct in the first 4 tries.

David75

Tue, 01-23-2007, 04:48 PM

I quickly checked 13 and 14 and mixed two rules.
The one for the mispelling that has been perfectly reported by Kraco
And the one regarding Suicide that musn't involve the death of other people... and when it does, the person will only die of heart attack.

Sorry for that mistake

For that second rule, the strange thing is that even a heart attack could still involve the death of many, as someone said here before.

Munsu

Tue, 01-23-2007, 05:56 PM

High Wind

Tue, 01-23-2007, 06:14 PM

It's been a while since I read the manga and I haven't watched much of the anime to remember, so can anyone her post a screencap of the rules especially the one where you guys say he can't misspell a name 4 times and/or if you can just give me the episode and time where it's mentioned so I can check it out.

I actually preffer the episode and time if possible.

I can't say for the other sub versions but the Animanda sub of episode 13 displays the rule at 11:21

The DEATH NOTE will be rendered useless if the victim's name is misspelled four times. is the exact wording.

el_boss

Tue, 01-23-2007, 06:46 PM

Light being so lucky might have gotten it correct in the first 4 tries.I guess this is the best explenation, which sort of sucks since the show is so thought through in all other areas.

Munsu

Tue, 01-23-2007, 06:59 PM

el_boss

Wed, 01-24-2007, 05:14 AM

Well, the first variations of the name he wrote are probably the most probable and common spellings of the name, so it's not really that far of stretch to think he got "lucky".

The other question would be does the Death Note become useless in general or just against the victim he's trying to kill? I would like to think that it's simply the Death Note losing its powers against that victim in particular, still that would mean that Light will have 8 chances to guess L's name if he doesn't figure it out (using his and Misha's Death Note). I would think this is so because the rule specifies "the victim" instead of "a victim".

Also, I'm pretty sure that once a name is written in the Death Note (correctly) the person will die no matter what you do, so after he "luckily" wrote the bike guy's name correctly, anything written after it already becomes useless. Which ties up with what I just mentioned above about the Note Book being rendered useless only to the victim in question, not in general. How's that for "so thought through"?Since we don't know the actual mechanics of the misspelling rule we can only speculate, but from what they have shown your conclusion here should be quite spot on.

Either the guess was in the first four attempts or the last four, depending on which way the note gives priority to the guesses.

Guesses after (or before depending on priority) the right one don't count. The note doesn't acknowledge them at all.

You can write several guesses at once and the note will "choose" the right one, if it fulfills all requirements.

Kraco

Wed, 01-24-2007, 05:47 AM

You can write several guesses at once and the note will "choose" the right one, if it fulfills all requirements.

I don't think you can write several at once... A person who could write with both the left and right hands could write two names at once, but that's about it. And the rule would be meaningless if it didn't monitor the attempts from the beginning, comparing them to the face you must have in mind when writing the names. So, when you think about someone and write names, the four first ones should be the attempts. After that it shouldn't count anymore, like Bud said.

el_boss

Wed, 01-24-2007, 06:19 AM

I don't think you can write several at once... A person who could write with both the left and right hands could write two names at once, but that's about it. And the rule would be meaningless if it didn't monitor the attempts from the beginning, comparing them to the face you must have in mind when writing the names. So, when you think about someone and write names, the four first ones should be the attempts. After that it shouldn't count anymore, like Bud said.What I meant is that you don't need to say "I think this is the right one" and wait to see what happens. If you write four variations of one name at once, the note will choose the correct one of them automatically.

Kraco

Wed, 01-24-2007, 06:46 AM

What I meant is that you don't need to say "I think this is the right one" and wait to see what happens. If you write four variations of one name at once, the note will choose the correct one of them automatically.

That should be obvious, because only one would be the name. The others would be just meaningless words. And the book requires the name and the face. There's only one way a name can be written correctly (or in Japan I quess you could often say two ways: Hiragana and Kanji, but anyway).

el_boss

Wed, 01-24-2007, 06:50 AM

That should be obvious, because only one would be the name. The others would be just meaningless words. And the book requires the name and the face. There's only one way a name can be written correctly (or in Japan I quess you could often say two ways: Hiragana and Kanji, but anyway).Yes, but even though they are "meaningless words" the note does still attach some significance to them, otherwise the 4 misspells rule would not exist.

woofcat

Wed, 01-24-2007, 03:08 PM

Deathnote 15 ANFS
http://anfs.fansub-torrents.com/%28anfs%29Death%20Note%2015%2807D1C1B2%29.torrent

Munsu

Wed, 01-24-2007, 03:44 PM

Since we don't know the actual mechanics of the misspelling rule we can only speculate, but from what they have shown your conclusion here should be quite spot on.

Either the guess was in the first four attempts or the last four, depending on which way the note gives priority to the guesses.

Guesses after (or before depending on priority) the right one don't count. The note doesn't acknowledge them at all.

You can write several guesses at once and the note will "choose" the right one, if it fulfills all requirements.
Indeed, I assumed that the first correct spelling will be priotized over the others... I'm basing it on that I don't remember hearing or reading about a way to cancel the death of a name writen in the Death Note. So, it's seems logical to me that once that name is spelled correctly and it satisfies the 4 mispelling rules, everything else after it should become irrelevant. But it is as you mentioned, it all depends on what priorities the rules of the Death Note are, and assuming that our speculations on some of these rules are correct. I don't remember most of the rules, pretty much everything that has been mentioned here.

I don't think the guess could've been in the last four as you say, solely because it would make the 4 misspelling rule irrelevant, so he should've gotten lucky in the first 4 tries. Now, let's say he writes the same name correctly 4 times, now which of the 4 entries does the Death Note take priority over? The first, the second, the third, or the fourth entry? If it's not the first entry, then my previous assumptions will probably be invalidated, but if it's indeed the first entry, then I think we've pretty much proven how this Death Note works.

woofcat

Wed, 01-24-2007, 04:15 PM

in ep 15 NOT REALLY A SPOILER BUT BEWARE

It states that you can cross out a name with two lines and it won't happen if its within the allowed time frame for changes.

Munsu

Wed, 01-24-2007, 04:45 PM

in ep 15 NOT REALLY A SPOILER BUT BEWARE

It states that you can cross out a name with two lines and it won't happen if its within the allowed time frame for changes.
Humm, then I stand corrected, though Light didn't cross-out any name in the first episode, so it's pretty much irrelevant. As said in my previous post, I think the most important part will be what takes priority once a name is written correctly, the first time it's written or the second time it's written.

Edit: The episode actually said that the only things that could be changed was the time and condition of death. It didn't say anyting about cancelling the death of the person whose name is written.

Psyke

Thu, 01-25-2007, 08:48 AM

Even if you have a warning on it, I won't allow all the DN rules to be posted here yet, for more information reffer to our spoiler policy

BioAlien

Thu, 01-25-2007, 09:47 AM

Spoilers

That website already exceeded its bandwidth, well no wonder, it IS Geocities after all, shitty hosting service, sigh... I wanted to see the many rules of the Death Note.

Yukimura

Thu, 01-25-2007, 10:59 AM

Wait, so I'm guessing Psyke posted a link to some site with al the rules....is that against the rules?

Munsu

Thu, 01-25-2007, 11:12 AM

Well, have all the rules been revealed in the anime? If that's the case, then it's not against the rules, but it's my understanding that not all the rules have been mentioned yet. I may be mistaken, but to be on the safe side I removed the links. If anyone can prove to me that all the rules have been mentioned on the anime already via pm I'll post the link again.

Psyke

Thu, 01-25-2007, 11:33 AM

Nah, definately not all the rules have been shown, so it's true that there might be spoiler material in it. I'm not too sure myself as I'm not ahead in the manga, although there is an amazing numnber of rules in the link I had posted. And because the site is constantly busy, I had created a page myself and hosted it on my site. I'll post the link up at the end of the series to prevent any spoiler material. Alternatively you can PM me for the link.

el_boss

Fri, 01-26-2007, 03:39 PM

Interesting ep.

Misa is really stupid.

Seems like Light is going to discard Ryuk or something. But wouldn't he lose all his memories connected to that note? Maybe it's connected to his masterplan to clear his name.

Also I've thought of something. Can you extend your life with the death note? I mean if you write "dies peacefully in his sleep year 3000". But the death sentence probably has to be within the persons life span. Even though, Light could give him self life-insurance by writing that he will die of old age after living out all his days. That would also make Rem unable to kill him.

Inazuma

Sat, 01-27-2007, 08:10 AM

Has to be within the target's lifespan.

David75

Sat, 01-27-2007, 10:09 AM

The way shinigami die if they use the DN to prevent someone from dying indicate that the DN must be used to have people die before the time they would with their natural lifespan.

el_boss

Sat, 01-27-2007, 12:07 PM

Ok, but he can still use it as life insurance. Will die on [entire lifespan]-1. Then he can do whatever he wants for the rest of his life and theres no chance that he'll die.

Psyke

Sat, 01-27-2007, 12:17 PM

. I'm not quite sure if this was explained in the anime, but it was in the movie and in the first 4 mangas in between the chapters. I won't explain more as it might contain possible spoilers. Good thinking on this point though.

masamuneehs

Sat, 01-27-2007, 12:31 PM

Ok, but he can still use it as life insurance. Will die on [entire lifespan]-1. Then he can do whatever he wants for the rest of his life and theres no chance that he'll die.

This doesn't make sense. First, if the Death Note owner knows a lifespan, what good does entering "Will die on _lifespan end date_" do in the first place? That's already when they'd die from natural causes or whatever is supposed to kill them in the first place! It doesn't ensure that person will live longer, because naturally they'd make it that far anyway, but no further.

Second, writing "die peacefully in the year 3000" is impossible. So, like people who had elaborate deaths that were impossible to fulfill, that person will just die of a heart attack instead in the standard time as if no date had been set. At least, that's what Light's explanation and the rules so far have indicated to me.

Third, Death Note owners are a little different from regular people. Didn't Misa explain how she figured out who Light was? ...I need to catch up to the anime... not going to say anything else

and, sorry psyke, but i editted your post because there seems to be some stuff in it that hasn't been covered yet in the anime.

el_boss

Sat, 01-27-2007, 12:46 PM

This doesn't make sense. First, if the Death Note owner knows a lifespan, what good does entering "Will die on _lifespan end date_" do in the first place? That's already when they'd die from natural causes or whatever is supposed to kill them in the first place! It doesn't ensure that person will live longer, because naturally they'd make it that far anyway, but no further.

Second, writing "die peacefully in the year 3000" is impossible. So, like people who had elaborate deaths that were impossible to fulfill, that person will just die of a heart attack instead in the standard time as if no date had been set. At least, that's what Light's explanation and the rules so far have indicated to me.

Third, Death Note owners are a little different from regular people. Didn't Misa explain how she figured out who Light was? ...I need to catch up to the anime... not going to say anything else

and, sorry psyke, but i editted your post because there seems to be some stuff in it that hasn't been covered yet in the anime.
So the life span shows how much they will live even if some accident will happen? I mean does it show the absolute life span, and nothing can ever change it (except a death god).

Even though, it will still provide protection against other death gods, since you can only kill a person in one death note. So Rem wouldn't be able to kill him.

Psyke

Sat, 01-27-2007, 12:52 PM

No problem.... Do as you see fit, please. I'm getting confused too, because I'm following this series on 3 mediums. But the strange thing is that some key info are released during certain events or are emphasized more. I'm referring to the manga....

I'm catching up with the manga to the point of the anime, but nothing more as I wanna enjoy the anime better. However, there are certain important points which I picked up from the manga which weren't so obvious in the anime..... There might be some reason to this, but it's not stopping me from getting the manga in case I miss out anything. Damn I'm really getting hooked. And those manga ain't cheap.... :(

David75

Sun, 01-28-2007, 05:15 AM

1)
Regarding the DN owner lifespan:
He/she can not get is, even with the eyes.
Their Shinigami will never tell them.

2)
Other rule:
You can not postpone a death over 19 or 23 days.

With the problem in 1) combined with the rule in 2) It seems pretty obvious it's impossible
for a DN owner to increase their lifespan, provided they are not a shinigami.

The last sentence reminds me that Ryuk told Light that a Human cannot extend their lifespan with the DN. It was when he was telling Light about differences beetween shinigamis and humans having a DN.

Lifespan:
To me, Lifespan is the number of days/years someone should live provided their name isn't written on a DN.
So basically it's their ramaining lifetime, before any DN action.

c u

Kraco

Sun, 01-28-2007, 01:29 PM

David75

Sun, 01-28-2007, 02:05 PM

What I'm looking forward to is how Light thinks he will get Misa out of the holding cell. Misa didn't confess anything so far, and obviously she won't confess anything now that she has forgotten everything. So, to an outside observer nothing seems to have changed. But forgetting she killed lots of people isn't going to set her free... The evidence looked pretty good, after all. Her trial wouldn't be quite ordinary anyway, because the method of killing is a mystery.

And in any case, you would think Light's influence might have suffered some setbacks from being Misa's new boyfriend...

They've got the vids... but it's difficult to tell wether she really killed or not, for the reason that the DN is not known yet.

I guess that the most important detail of the ep, was Rem moving Misa's hair... and also part of her words that clearly showed a conversation, rather that just queries for her death.

Yukimura

Sun, 01-28-2007, 06:18 PM

I couldn't wait to watch a decent sub of ep 15 so here I am. Observations, L is an asshole, Watari is one mean mofo. I don't know how things work in Japan but it's generaly frowned upon in the US to torture people (especially teenage girls, though in the grand scheme that's not as important) even on suspicion of mass murder. This just shows that L is just as bad as Light when it comes to his respect for 'the rules'. Also his comment about using the same trick twice made me snap to a judgement that he may have a twin brother or something that would help protect him from a Kirassination.

Another observation, Light is a little bit stupid b/c of his impatience. He shouldn't have altered his behavior right after Misa left. He had nothing to do and was going to get some cake then Misa shows up and suddenly he's going to the bathroom. Now a plasible story could be concocted since it was obvious that Misa knew him and he could have just been politely lying so he could call and arrange a tryst or something, but it's still another thing Kira might have done that would raise L's suspicions.

Now we've got Rem becoming Light's Death God and he's saying bye to Ryuk which means he may be planning to give his Note to someone else, possibly as a way of creating a false secnd Kira to get Misa out.

Munsu

Sun, 01-28-2007, 06:21 PM

Kraco

Sun, 01-28-2007, 06:38 PM

Another observation, Light is a little bit stupid b/c of his impatience. He shouldn't have altered his behavior right after Misa left. He had nothing to do and was going to get some cake then Misa shows up and suddenly he's going to the bathroom. Now a plasible story could be concocted since it was obvious that Misa knew him and he could have just been politely lying so he could call and arrange a tryst or something, but it's still another thing Kira might have done that would raise L's suspicions.

I don't really see the big deal about that sudden call of the bathroom or the phone call. Misa is a celebrity and obviously quite an impulsive person. Under normal circumstances a guy like Light could have just called her to berate her for suddenly showing up there and causing such a commotion when all the people recognized her. She left so suddenly that he hardly had time to say anything. And a phone call is a private conversation that can be used to say anything. Going to the bathroom is quite a universal excuse.

Stoopider

Mon, 01-29-2007, 09:24 AM

Edit: Forget about it. Just read the last few pages.

Yukimura

Mon, 01-29-2007, 12:39 PM

@Bud Oh I love 24, and I don't mind torture usually, I think this is just the first time I remember seeing a Jack Bauer level breach of civil liberties in an anime. Maybe I should rethink my position on L, however I don't trust L's motives as much as I trust Jack Bauer's so maybe that's why I was so shocked.

seanos

Mon, 01-29-2007, 05:18 PM

I think the reason for the 'torture' was to show how desperate they were.
L realised how close he came to dying - so he was ready to do anything to save his own life - quite natural.
Though the police at the scene had shocked looks etc, there was no objection or questioning of the act.
As for torture ... I'm not all that sure it was.
Police/L know that Kira(2) can kill by only a face, they have no idea of the Death Note, for all they know Kira(2) just needs to think it, or maybe perform a hand/foot gesture (odd image building up inside my own mind now....), so it's natural they be 100% sure Kira(2) cannot see/move/interact with anything.
Now we did see a syringe being filled - it would be my impression that this was some kind of truth serum as opposed to a torture method...

I would think the reason Light is giving up his death note is so that he can forget everything; so if he is caught, he will seem innocent (and as far as he is concerned, he is innocent). The false-second Kira idea is also interesting, and probably fits with above.

el_boss

Mon, 01-29-2007, 06:37 PM

Why didn't Rem kill everyone and save Misa?

woofcat

Mon, 01-29-2007, 11:55 PM

Because then he would die.

Yukimura

Tue, 01-30-2007, 01:15 AM

That wouldn't have happened unless Misa was supposed to die there. However the fact that Rem knows Misa's life span (which should be large assuming that the death god that died for her probably had quite at least a few lifetimes that he transfered to Misa) but wants the torture to stop implies that Rem cares about her physical and emotional well being, which could come into play later. But el_boss's question raises a good point, as long as it wouldn't affect Misa's proper death Rem could have killed Watari at least for messing with her, instead she came to Light to get her out, very suspicious.

EDIT Death Note != death god

David75

Tue, 01-30-2007, 01:39 AM

That wouldn't have happened unless Misa was supposed to die there. However the fact that Rem knows Misa's life span (which should be large assuming that the Death Note that died for her probably had quite at least a few lifetimes that he transfered to Misa) but wants the torture to stop implies that Rem cares about her physical and emotional well being, which could come into play later. But el_boss's question raises a good point, as long as it wouldn't affect Misa's proper death Rem could have killed Watari at least for messing with her, instead she came to Light to get her out, very suspicious.

After all, Ryuk came on earth out of boredom.

Maybe Rem and Ryuk are just there to have plenty of fun, by playing with their puppets...

Kraco

Tue, 01-30-2007, 03:29 AM

Well, if people around Misa had suddenly started to die, I think it would have been more harmful for Misa than doing nothing and make it appear as if she isn't the second Kira after all or at least keeping some mystery surrounding the issue. And things would have been even worse if some invisible force would have released Misa from the... stand she was bound to, and broken cameras and such. At that point L & co would have contacted universities to get some multispectrum cameras, microwave radars, nuclear and magnetic resonance scanners and all that manner of jazz until they would have eventually gotten a sensor that could see the shinigami. And at that point you can bet the king of the shinigami would have punished Rem...

el_boss

Tue, 01-30-2007, 05:11 AM

masamuneehs

Tue, 01-30-2007, 08:42 AM

L breaching civil liberties? I thought everything he did was fine and dandy. Besides, he doesn't fall under any nation or official international body (not now that he's conducting the investigation on his own), so I can't imagine what 'civil' anything he'd be required to respect. At this point his is a refined (and quite upstanding) vigilante justice.

There's plenty of proof to hold Misa and 'investigate' her involvement with all these murders, at least from where I'm sitting.

Deadfire

Tue, 01-30-2007, 09:48 AM

@Yukimura: Lifespan doesn't transfer to humans.

Once a Shinigami dies, their lifespans get added to the human's life that they saved. The only way for this to be possible, however, is for the Shinigami to have feelings for the human they are saving. This was explaining during that ep (don't remember the number) with Rem telling Misa how to kill a Shinigami.

Munsu

Tue, 01-30-2007, 10:00 AM

Deadfire

Tue, 01-30-2007, 10:14 AM

A Shinigami's lifespan getting added to the human they saved? That doesn't make sense. It's been a while since I read this in the manga, but what I understood back then was simply that the human's lifespan got extended. Why? Because they've just been saved, so that simple action extended their life. Else, wouldn't the human become immortal?

Ryuk explains that in the eyes EP , they use their eyes to find the names of and kill humans to get the human's remaining lifespans added to their own.

For example, if a person's natural life span is 60 years, and a Shinigami kills them at 40, then the Shinigami receives 20 years of life. It is because Shinigami, despite being god-like, can die natural death and have a lifespan of their own that eventually runs out.

Munsu

Tue, 01-30-2007, 10:23 AM

I see, I think I remember something like that. Thanks.

el_boss

Tue, 01-30-2007, 12:53 PM

Rem knows Misa's life span (which should be large assuming that the Death Note that died for her probably had quite at least a few lifetimes that he transfered to Misa)That should say Death god, that's why I misunderstood.

Because they've just been saved, so that simple action extended their life. Else, wouldn't the human become immortal?If it was intended for the person to die, they would have had no lifespan left. So the person has to get lifespan from somewhere.

David75

Tue, 01-30-2007, 01:44 PM

Once a Shinigami dies, their lifespans get added to the human's life that they saved. The only way for this to be possible, however, is for the Shinigami to have feelings for the human they are saving. This was explaining during that ep (don't remember the number) with Rem telling Misa how to kill a Shinigami.

I'll have to rewatch that ep, but I understood that:
Extending a human's life by using the DN is what causes the Immediate Death of a Shinigami.
In no way a Shinigami would do that, except that Love is apparently what would lead a Shinigami to do this. Probably because only Love is strong enough to make shinigamis do such a "silly" thing.
Really, it's important to rewatch that ep, but to me, a shinigami that would use the DN to save someone from Death, even when they do not love that human, will die.

The last hint was the question from Light to Ryuk, when he asked if Ryuk would do this for him (ie save Light using the DN)... when it normally should be obvious Ryuk doesn't love Light, and would never love him.

c u

woofcat

Wed, 01-31-2007, 12:23 PM

Death Note 16 out by ANFS

http://www.animenoobs.com/anfs/(anfs)Death%20Note%2016(7909CD48).torrent

el_boss

Wed, 01-31-2007, 01:47 PM

Wonder what will happen to Light's grand ambitions.

He made a point of the fact that his memory did not dissapear after he discarded Rem. Maybe he can get back his memories somehow or Ryuk might come to him again and brief him.

woofcat

Wed, 01-31-2007, 02:26 PM

I am also wondering about this. I know the series doesn't end here because its 37 episodes long. So i am wondering on how he will obtain his memory. Hmm, right now i am baffled good job Death Note, few animes do this to me.

Kraco

Wed, 01-31-2007, 03:52 PM

Indeed. I guess something like this could have been expected ever since the discarding / memory loss method was for the first time mentioned, but I certainly never expected Light to discard his. Quite a risky game he's playing, for both his freedom (and life) and his ambitions, like el_boss said. Well, on the other hand, with the kind of ingenious script writing this story has, anything can happen and will have a more or less logical and believable causality.

el_boss

Wed, 01-31-2007, 04:02 PM

David75

Wed, 01-31-2007, 05:10 PM

Some random thought

Will you be immune to the Death Note if you get cosmetic surgery?

What decides what a persons name is? Let's say a person got a name at birth, but then got adopted and got a new name. Which name would be that persons real name? And what if a person legally changes his/her name.

Plausible answers:

For surgery: the last face is the one that counts. The face rule is just to be sure the right person will die.

For names:
I guess the name you see with the eyes is the name the person reacts to, the name they
truly think as theirs. Their intimate name.

cu

NeoCybercoin

Wed, 01-31-2007, 05:46 PM

Then L would die easily if that was the case. He respondes to Ryuuzaki, Ryuuga en L

Kraco

Wed, 01-31-2007, 06:32 PM

Nah. While 99.999% of people practically speaking only respond to their real name, there are also people who do smoothly use fake names. Undercover agents and other people under such circumstances. While they would respond normally when you call the fake name in a crowd, they know, themselves, that it's just a fake name. So, I doubt it would be enough for the Death Note.

In a hypothetical scenario some Soviet spy who was infiltrated into the US under false name and identity could be a gray case. When the Soviet Union collapsed - before he got caught - he, rather than returning to the chaotic Russia, decided to keep living his "fake" life in the US, continuing to use the fake identity. He could then be a case where the fake US name eventually would begin to replace the real Russian one without a conscious or official decision. And potentially could generate a period of time when he could be killed with either name with the Death Note.

el_boss

Wed, 01-31-2007, 06:40 PM

I just think it's weird that something as arbitrary as a name has such a big influence in the death note. How do the divine forces decide how that persons name us spelled anyway?

The name should just be a fail safe for the safe and something to put in the book. I mean it should be enough if you know what a person looks like and you just write what you think their name is or something that represents them.

Kraco

Wed, 01-31-2007, 06:44 PM

Well, things like "true names" have been around for a long time, especially in the fantasy literature. Often knowing someone's true name would allow some manner of power over him (or it). I guess in that respect it's not surprising to have much significance placed on a name in any story. It's also an existing tradition.

Knives122

Wed, 01-31-2007, 06:57 PM

Interesting episode. Light gave up his Kira persona so he could trick L into believing he was innocent. And I guess giving something up to actually make yourself innocent b/c you have no memory of doing it actually accomplishes that goal.

Next week something seems to be going on with Light's pops. Maybe he'll die or somethng.

David75

Thu, 02-01-2007, 01:56 AM

For names I wasn't clear engouh at explaining my view.

What I meant:
The name above your head is the name you deeply think you have. A name deeply rooted inside.
Divinity do not choose, it's what is coming from deep inside the eyes enable you to see.
Since the info come out of the person, it can not be faked easily, and probably is very reliable.

But Kraco has a point mentioning the Russian spy example. It's very probable such a person would have two equivalent names, because both are Public and very intimate, deeply rooted inside them.
So it may be possible they are killed using any of the two names, written in the DN

c u

I've finally seen the ep 16.
Light was quite a good player:
-No deaths for 2 weeks to let the tension rise.
-He discards the DN
-Deaths restart
-He's very convincing at defending himself, since he has no memory of the DN, shinigamis and begin kira.

Yet kira is still alive, rem behind, pupeted by light.

In a way, Light was right in the first eps, a Deity may arise with that DN.
The spectators, and readers thougt that light was a bit megalomaniac at wiling to be a God.
In fact, I do not think he wanted to, for himself. He wanted to create one...
And that god is Kira...
He even told is life was nothing compared to what's at stake.

It's interresting, because the only thing needed is that a DN is used with the rules, manner light did... for Kira to remain.

Will light get a DN back?, probably.

I do not know how he planed to be able to retrace the place where the DN is, and how he planed his memory recovery, so that he will fully be aware of what he will get when retrieving the DN...

cu

High Wind

Sun, 02-04-2007, 10:01 PM

Psyke

Mon, 02-05-2007, 10:27 AM

I chanced upon this picture of Death note characters done in Groening style (http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/986/theeedeaaathnoootebysparp4.jpg), done by spacecoyote (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/46279988/). Pretty good! :D

BioAlien

Mon, 02-05-2007, 10:39 AM

For those of you who have more will power than I, and have waited for Animanda's release of 16, here it is
Death Note 16 - Animanda (http://animanda.fansub-torrents.com/%5BAnimanda%5D_Death_Note_-_16_%5B41DCE3EE%5D.avi.torrent)

For some reason, the link is not working for me.

Had to get it from here. (http://animanda.edwardk.info/%5BAnimanda%5D_Death_Note_-_16_%5B41DCE3EE%5D.avi.torrent)

Luckst

Wed, 02-07-2007, 11:55 AM

Death Note 17 - Kuro-hana
http://kuro-hana.no-ip.org/(kuro-hana)Death%20Note%2017(6B16297F).torrent

Looks like anfs change their name, but word =)

Sandldan

Wed, 02-07-2007, 03:29 PM

It has taken a pretty interesting turn now, the team is complete without suspision and can finally go togheter against kira ;)
Was fun to see them interacting with the mood that much lighter and with the boost in spirit.

I'd say that light foresaw most of this and is aiming to get his hands onto the death note again by going after it with L, might seem like a long shot but if he gets L's complete trust he might be able to pull it off. But then again he has no memory of his old self so his plan could also have been just to save himself, but that doesnt seem much like him.
Not sure if this was mentioned but would you be able to regain your memory if you touched the note book again?

NeoCybercoin

Wed, 02-07-2007, 05:24 PM

Link's not working for me =\

knifecrew

Wed, 02-07-2007, 05:25 PM

I can't believe, after having finished the manga, just how exhilarating and moving the anime can be, even though I know what's going to happen! I am so glad that they're trying to stay as true as possible. But I can only wait for the next episode. :(

RoCk

Wed, 02-07-2007, 05:47 PM

The torrent isn't working for me :(

Luckst

Wed, 02-07-2007, 07:11 PM

The torrent isn't working for me :(

Yeah wasnt working in winamp for me, so I had to use VLC, worked fine there.

Link was working earlier now I just cant get onto the site.

Deadfire

Wed, 02-07-2007, 08:13 PM

Death Note 17 - Kuro-hana
http://kuro-hana.no-ip.org/(kuro-hana)Death%20Note%2017(6B16297F).torrent

Looks like anfs change their name, but word =)

The link looks like it's tied to someones own computer (the .no-ip.com) So it's possible the shut down their computer is why the link doesn't work.

Yeah wasnt working in winamp for me, so I had to use VLC, worked fine there.

Why the hell are you trying to play anime in winamp? You should always use VLC or use MPC and/or Zoomplayer that you get from CCCP. Which you should also have.

Anyways "kuro-hana" seems to still have their server down at this time.

hitokiriender

Wed, 02-07-2007, 11:40 PM

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0TYXRXFA --- Death Note Episode 17 by Kuro-hana.

Luckst

Thu, 02-08-2007, 01:15 AM

The link looks like it's tied to someones own computer (the .no-ip.com) So it's possible the shut down their computer is why the link doesn't work.

Why the hell are you trying to play anime in winamp? You should always use VLC or use MPC and/or Zoomplayer that you get from CCCP. Which you should also have.

Anyways "kuro-hana" seems to still have their server down at this time.

lol Always used winamp, works...cept for a couple thats when I switch to VLC or Zoomplayer.

Awesome episode as always, was interesting how they lighten the mood in this episode. Death Note never seizes to suprise me =)

NeoBear

Thu, 02-08-2007, 03:18 AM

...am i the only one who feels like im not watching the same show anymore?

this whole episode felt odd like i had missed a few episodes or something and the art was a little off too. is it just me?

thats not to say i did not like it it just felt wierd =/

Sandldan

Thu, 02-08-2007, 03:23 AM

The mood and feeling changed all of a sudden when Light changed, Light did change alot after he got his hands onto the death note so he just went back to before he got his hands on i. As you could see in the lightened mood between everyone, the tension with chief yagami and Light being clear of suspision gone. All the small jokes made in the second half part was completely new to the serie

Deadfire

Mon, 02-12-2007, 03:53 PM

Animanda Death note 17 (http://animanda.fansub-torrents.com/%5BAnimanda%5D_Death_Note_-_17_%5BB2FDFA2F%5D.avi.torrent)

Finally :P

Carnage

Mon, 02-12-2007, 04:57 PM

As Sandldlan stated, it not really a change in animation, but a change in person. The characters all of a sudden look much more innocent than they used to.

Anyway, I hope they make this new arc as good as the previous :)

Darknodin

Tue, 02-13-2007, 03:49 PM

soo... Light got out of it? Now they are gonna try finding the new Kira... seems Lights free for a little while at least.

Kraco

Wed, 02-14-2007, 06:06 AM

Episode 18 - kuro-hana (http://www.animenoobs.com/animereviews/%5Bkuro-hana%5DDeath%20Note%2018%5BE9593979%5D.torrent)

I don't know if I'm going to download this or just wait for Animanda. The previous kuro-hana was, frankly speaking, less than stellar, and I'm not normally one to complain about fansubs. But the font alone was an atrocity. Well, curiosity might still kill the cat before long, though...

shinta|hikari

Wed, 02-14-2007, 09:27 AM

Im actually archiving this series, but not watching it. Im going to download the better quality subs then. Im guessing that would be Animanda?

hitokiriender

Wed, 02-14-2007, 09:37 AM

Website is down for Kuro-hana.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/582945 <---- Death Note Ep 18

On another note, try not to go in their mirc channel cause people love to post spoilers in the chatroom.

shinta|hikari

Wed, 02-14-2007, 09:48 AM

I checked my archives and my death note episodes are all live evil. Did they drop this already?

hitokiriender

Wed, 02-14-2007, 10:07 AM

I checked my archives and my death note episodes are all live evil. Did they drop this already?

Yup, they dropped it when Death Note got licensed.

On another note, I think Kuro-hana changed the font of their subtitles. I remember thinking that the sub font last episode was harder to read and this episode's font was a lot cleaner... but it might be I got used to it.

phil0253

Wed, 02-14-2007, 10:10 AM

so where is it at now i have no download ability at home and i tried to read from the begining of the tread but i only got to page 10

shinta|hikari

Wed, 02-14-2007, 10:12 AM

I see, thanks for the info. I might actually start downloading from episode 1 again, since I want consistency in my collections.

Koyuki

Wed, 02-14-2007, 01:17 PM

Keep your Live-Evil and continue with Animada. Don't think there is someone that have subbed from 1-18.

Yukimura

Wed, 02-14-2007, 01:43 PM

Are we still watching the same show? Ever since Light lost his memories everything is so weird and confusing now. I'm guessing the time skips aren't helping, but the flavor of the show is just different now (possibly because we no longer as much about what the 'bad guy' is doing anymore). Also the animation style seems to have changed, but it might just be that kuro-hana is doing somethign different with the encoding.

RoCk

Wed, 02-14-2007, 07:37 PM

I agree yukimura. I cannot say I like this 'change'. The pace is terrible and the information that we get left as a cliff hanger (Aizawa crying...yay~~~~). Not to mention matsuda is realllllly getting on my nerves. Gah, things went so wrong (which I think is their plan, I really really hope Light gets his DN back and sits on his Kira throne again).

Light was a character to idolize. He was the epitome of perfection (especially at his age), smart, suave and good looking. Now, his character turned into some emo L loving fanatic. I don't like that, and I hope for my sake, and my idolization of Light, he changes...soon.

shinta|hikari

Wed, 02-14-2007, 10:01 PM

I see, ill keep the live evil ones I guess.

All I can say is that despite this change, I suggest everyone to keep watching, and endure.

Darknodin

Thu, 02-15-2007, 10:52 AM

I agree... the show is much different... i kinda see this as a "filler" arc before Light regains his death note... i hope

hitokiriender

Fri, 02-16-2007, 10:53 AM

tnynyn

Fri, 02-16-2007, 02:21 PM

cant really say if the live action will give out spoilers. heres the info on it though:

some spoilers, if you look hard enough
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0758742/

Raven

Fri, 02-16-2007, 06:30 PM

So, at this point Light has no memories of actually being Kira, right? In that case, I wonder how he'll come to get his Death Note back. We can't lose Ryuuk as a character, surely.

Psyke

Sat, 02-17-2007, 10:20 AM

Being slightly off topic, me and my girlfriend really want to watch the 1st Live Action Death Note movie but don't want to be spoiled about any future events. If we watch it now, will we be spoiled for any future events? How about if we watch the 2nd movie?

The first movie ends with the 1st meeting between Light and L. There are differences, mostly cutting short of the details because of the shorter time for a movie. As for the second movie, if you really want to avoid spoilers, watch it only after the anime ends.

Mae

Sat, 02-17-2007, 07:48 PM

I sort of like this arc because it shows just how twisted and insane Light became from using the death not by having him act how he would normally before he became corrupted. Very much a white hat kind of guy, maybe even more idealistic than L.

Sandldan

Sun, 02-18-2007, 03:45 AM

MFauli

Sun, 02-18-2007, 09:11 AM

Could anyone who read the manga already tell ONLY, if Death Note becomes more...more like the beginning, again? Or is this change of mood for the rest of the series?

David75

Sun, 02-18-2007, 11:29 AM

And i'd also say that Lights extreme boredom he had in the beginning is pretty much gone now, afterall that was one of the reasons he picked up and started to use the Death Note. Therefore we cant even recognize this new light to the old one before he got his hands on the death note. "What can be more existential shaking than being bored"

I wonder wether Light was that bored and that different from what he is now.

Afterall, we had less than half an ep to judge ho he was before he got the DN.
And as soon as he gets it, the change is very quick, so it's hard to tell what the DN
changes, and what it doesn't.

Another main difference, he's caught in a totally different story. He was a bored student, with the everyday life of a student.
And to him, from a day to the other, gets propelled to try and find kira, in a very stressfull context where he is one of the main suspects...
And now we have time to see how he is, evolves, reacts to his environment... and that we didn't have in the first part of the first ep (not enough time)

c u

BioAlien

Mon, 02-19-2007, 12:20 AM

I just finished watching Death Note Movie 1 (Live Action) subbed by Mishicorp & SARS, the quality overall was good, except they call the shinigami, Reaper. :(
For those interested in it, if you have watched the anime to where it is right now, it's fine.
Since that movie end where Misa receive the Death Note and when light join the investigation team..
You can get it by searching " Death Note ", at animesuki (http://www.animesuki.com/)

Anyone know around which day of the week Animanda release Death Note? before it was something like saturday/sunday, but now...
>.>

knifecrew

Tue, 02-20-2007, 05:23 PM

Deadfire

Tue, 02-20-2007, 08:16 PM

Animanda Death Note 18 (http://animanda.edwardk.info/%5BAnimanda%5D_Death_Note_-_18_%5B84510A3C%5D.avi.torrent)

I'm amazed we all missed it by a day as it was out yesterday (Yes I myself didn't know)

knifecrew

Wed, 02-21-2007, 01:30 AM

Is there even a set date? I don't recall.

Carnage

Wed, 02-21-2007, 08:24 PM

Kuro Hana 19:

http://kuro-hana.no-ip.org/

Yukimura

Thu, 02-22-2007, 01:39 AM

An Interesting semi-filler seeming episode. The yellowed look on Matsuda was pretty humorous. And I'm impressed he managed to do something even remotely useful, even if it was ridiculously stupid. I'm really wondering what's going on though, does one of the group members have the Death Note or is the person Rem gave it to in communication with them?

masamuneehs

Thu, 02-22-2007, 01:55 AM

ah, the first of the strangest parts of Death Note... I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed the evil company and "their Kira".

and don't diss Matsuda. he's the man

Felix

Thu, 02-22-2007, 05:18 PM

I dont think there was any filler....

I wonder who has the Deathnote, I think its the young looking guy with the slick long black hair. He seems too calm....

Spiegel

Fri, 02-23-2007, 12:18 PM

I just started watching the series, Not sure what took me so long to start. I am up to Ep. 18 now and cannot wait to start the download for 19. After reading these last few posts on top of everything, There Better not be any filler! I cannot handle another series with filler episodes! This Series has defiantly made me look around my school for any strange black notebooks. Kinda wish I had one now.

Question: Does anywhere sell Death Note notebooks? It would be sweet to be able to own one, even though it wouldn't be the real thing.

Yukimura

Fri, 02-23-2007, 03:51 PM

Spiegel

Fri, 02-23-2007, 05:06 PM

I heard somethign about Death Notes floating around in China, needless to say parents were not pleased. In America it would be around 1000 times worse than I could possibly imagine. Parents would be up in arms over it, the religious types would call them Satan worship and the government might take it as a terrorist threat. All in all I don't think anyone selling Death Notes would be able to stay in buisness for long.

DAMN YOU RELIGIOUS TYPES! I just think it would be sweet, but I see what you mean. I wouldnt mind buying it online, but whatever happens happens.

I looked up what you said about them floating around and I found this tidbit on Wikipedia.

Some schools in Shenyang, China have banned the manga after some of their students started to tease friends and teachers by altering a stationery notebook to resemble a Death Note and writing their names in them.

The newspaper Shenyang Night Report called Death Note "poison, creating wicked hearts" you might feel that the ban is an overreaction and is inappropriate.

Carnage

Fri, 02-23-2007, 05:14 PM

Me and my friends almost bought one in Chinatown almost a year ago.....but then we decided on Gundam Figurines.

Raven

Sat, 02-24-2007, 05:55 AM

I wonder if Light sent a page of his Death Note as delayed mail to himself so he receives an envelope in a month or two, only to open it, touch the page and get his memory back. He has to get his memory back somehow, obviously he will have a foolproof plan.

It's interesting seeing him trying so hard to track down Kira - little does he know. I love how there's so many possibilities with this show.

Psyke

Sat, 02-24-2007, 06:30 AM

Question: Does anywhere sell Death Note notebooks? It would be sweet to be able to own one, even though it wouldn't be the real thing.

As with all fads, you can find all sorts of Death Note merchandise here where I live. From replica Death Note books of all sizes, to rings, figures, toys, Ryuk plushes and even a miniture laptop with L's logo on it.

I would have bought Ryuk home if my wife didn't stop me. :(

Darknodin

Sat, 02-24-2007, 02:31 PM

Me, when i said "filler" i didn't mean "non-manga material". I simply meant a middle part of a story, meant to "fill" time. Like you have when superheroes lose their power and go on a quest to get it back. the quest part is not really useful in telling the story (Although it could be quite entertaining). I might be wrong though and what happens with the Yotsuba might be part of Light's plan or something.

BioAlien

Tue, 02-27-2007, 08:08 PM

Death Note 19 by animanda
http://animanda.edwardk.info/%5BAnimanda%5D_Death_Note_-_19_%5BB5E68BDC%5D.avi.torrent

seanos

Tue, 02-27-2007, 08:15 PM

And C1 have caught up nicely, they also are on Episode 19 (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=353)

Knives122

Wed, 02-28-2007, 11:21 AM

DN got a new op. it seems.....very colorful I might add.

And also very scary.. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrr_X_m8pnI)

Deadfire

Wed, 02-28-2007, 11:31 AM

DN got a new op. it seems.....very colorful I might add.

And also very scary.. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrr_X_m8pnI)

Very interesting.....I don't know why but I really liked it

knifecrew

Wed, 02-28-2007, 01:03 PM

That only added to the migraine I'm dealing with now.

...why must you SCREAM!? :confused:

RoCk

Wed, 02-28-2007, 03:06 PM

Creepy is right...but it conveys a dark feel to it...thank god because i'm tired of this new wussy light

Carnage

Wed, 02-28-2007, 05:10 PM

what....the....fuck.....

That was the weirdest op I've ever seen.I'm just....shocked.

Spiegel

Wed, 02-28-2007, 05:41 PM

Shocked, Amazed, Intrigued, I love it!

I think I found my new theme song!

Knives122

Wed, 02-28-2007, 06:54 PM

But....the drums at the end......and the screaming......THE SCREAMING!!!!

Mae

Wed, 02-28-2007, 07:37 PM

DN got a new op. it seems.....very colorful I might add.

And also very scary.. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrr_X_m8pnI)

That's an unexpected choice for a fairly popular anime series. Most go with mainstream pop songs. At first I thought it was fake.

I like it for Death Note myself.

The ED is also kind of interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVb_B5a_IQ&mode=related&search=

Deadfire

Wed, 02-28-2007, 07:43 PM

Now that I watch it again I see that there are certain things in it that feel good about where the anime is heading

Carnage

Wed, 02-28-2007, 07:57 PM

This is almost as horrible as that time when they gave that shitty song about "wings" or something as the 4th Gundam Seed Destiny op. Almost as bad!

Sandldan

Wed, 02-28-2007, 08:00 PM

When i came over the "WTF" and saw it again a while later it's actually quite good, will be interesting to see if the anime takes such a big turn as the opening did.
Didnt react as much to the ending , was close to what i expected. Fitting ending song in relation to the opening.

Knives122

Wed, 02-28-2007, 08:19 PM

Now that I watch it again I see that there are certain things in it that feel good about where the anime is heading

like the part of the song before all the drumming where's he walking past all those four people.

I've listened to it like it was going to be deleted(which it is apparently) and it's not so much a bad song but the screaming(right before L is eating the candy in a colorful rainbow manner) and the drumming(after the show the guy who's face is blackout by the sun).

Stuff like that just puts me off a song.

LobsterMagnet

Thu, 03-01-2007, 12:34 AM

Can't neccessarily say I like the song but I think aestheticallyit fits death note perfectly.

Yukimura

Thu, 03-01-2007, 01:18 AM

I personally hated the new OP, as did my friend who got into Death Note via my schools anime club, and they'll all probably hate it when the get to it too (except maybe the vp, he likes weird shit). But anyway, that's why avi's can skip forward, so when people put crazy death metal (forgive me if I'm misusing this term) at the beginning of anime you can choose not to watch it.

The new ED was less disagreeable, but I didn't particularly like it either, oh well.

Raven

Thu, 03-01-2007, 03:11 AM

The new opening/ending is the best change I've seen in anime songs in years. The old ones were complete meh. Love it now.

David75

Thu, 03-01-2007, 02:15 PM

I wonder how it is possible to have these right now.
If they prove to be the right ones, I think they're fun, true to the energy, fast pace and crazyness we have in the series.

I like them for that, eventhough this music isn't my type.

RoCk

Thu, 03-01-2007, 07:26 PM

ah, going through withdrawal. Come on kuro-hana ;)

Lucifus

Thu, 03-01-2007, 11:45 PM

Omg thats the weirdest opening ever yet I absolutly love it!:D The endings pretty damn nice too.:cool: :rolleyes:

hitokiriender

Fri, 03-02-2007, 08:37 AM

ah, going through withdrawal. Come on kuro-hana ;)
Kuro-hana isn't subbing this week's episode of Death Note. They are taking a 1 week/episode break to due to lack of translators or something.

Yukimura

Fri, 03-02-2007, 12:09 PM

If you love/need Death Note more than you need sensible english...
KubuSubs - Death Note 20 DDL from Sendspace (http://www.sendspace.com/file/08ue4c)
KubuSubs - Death Note 20 Torrent (http://www.box.net/index.php?rm=box_v2_download_shared_file&file_id=f_46619113)

Not sure about this link: Kuro-hana Death Note - Episode 20 Torrent (http://kuro-hanasubs.com/tracker/torrents/%5Bkuro-hana%20and%20uiuc%5D%20Death%20Note%20-%2020%20%5B6A4D609D%5D.torrent)

Sandldan

Fri, 03-02-2007, 01:39 PM

About the new opening, towards the end before the last rush in the song where light screams out on a rooftop. Am i the only one hearing the phrase "CRAB PEOPLE" instead of "What's up people"

animus

Mon, 03-05-2007, 11:52 PM

I'm impressed at Yamaguchi Kappei(Usopp from One Piece, and L in Deathnote)'s voice acting.

Sandldan

Wed, 03-07-2007, 11:56 AM

Death note 20 Released by Animanda
Animanda - 20 (http://animanda.edwardk.info/%5BAnimanda%5D_Death_Note_-_20_%5BF0A44B13%5D.avi.torrent)

And Kuro-hana just released 21
Kuro-Hana - 21 (http://kuro-hana.edwardk.info/%5Bkuro-hana%5D%20Death%20Note%20-%2021%20%5BF3B873BF%5D.torrent)

DDBen

Fri, 03-09-2007, 11:32 AM

I just got around to episode 20 yesterday and I must say I HATE the new op/ed its just screaming and while the visuals are fine the songs are just terrible. Also if they were really going to put in something like that shouldn't they have done so while Light was Kira and not why were watching Misa bounce around and annoy everyone with being cute and the show overall has a much lighter/less dramatic feel.

Its just completely out of place for where the anime is right now.

Anyway the episodes are fine but I read the manga when I assumed that most subbers would stop the project and as such discussing actual content would be degenerate to the discussion in general.

kenren

Fri, 03-09-2007, 08:46 PM

hey hey, ningen sucker..ningen fucker..LOL.
as usual, L and his tricks to get Light to side with him...and the 3 good friends holding hands in circle part is very..uh, cute?

Raven

Fri, 03-09-2007, 11:45 PM

21 was interesting, it gives Misa a whole new opportunity to play them all as suckers if she wants to. I love how things keep taking a turn like this. Although I'd imagine Higuchi would notice if a small piece of paper had mysteriously been torn from his Deathnote, not that he could do much to Rem if he found out it was him.

el_boss

Sat, 03-10-2007, 11:51 AM

omg I love the new intro.

Carnage

Sun, 03-11-2007, 12:14 PM

animus

Sun, 03-11-2007, 07:03 PM

Psyke

Mon, 03-12-2007, 10:38 AM

I've been reading the manga in tandem with the anime, but my curiosity got the better with me and I'm now into volume 9..... Guess I won't be posting much in this thread anymore to avoid posting spoilers :(

And yeah I just got the DVD of the first movie, and will be rewatching it soon..... :p

Spiegel

Mon, 03-12-2007, 12:51 PM

I think they revealed too much when Higuchi was in his room talking to Rem in the beginning. In the manga he was more hidden so we had to wait for Rem to reveal him to Misa. But this a great episode, and they're raping through manga chapters which makes the anime even better.

I don't read the manga, But I am truly happy that they Don't Have Fillers! I will take your word that this is all manga material. Loved the last Episode. I am still curious as to how Light set it up so he can come back to his original status as Kira though. This anime is making me want to read the manga too much, and I am not normally a Manga Person.

animus

Mon, 03-12-2007, 02:23 PM

Fillers next to never occur for a manga that's already complete.

Psyke

Tue, 03-13-2007, 08:11 AM

No fillers, but there are differences in the manga and anime.... that much I can say. Slight differences but noticeable.

gr3atfull

Tue, 03-13-2007, 09:02 PM

Started to watch this show since I just heard only good stuff about it. It's totally awesome. I am really thinking of reading the manga.

And yeah I just got the DVD of the first movie, and will be rewatching it soon..... :p

Is the movie as good as the show?

Koyuki

Wed, 03-14-2007, 08:31 AM

Finally new episode

Kuro-Hana Ep. 22
http://kuro-hana.edwardk.info/%5Bkuro-hana%5D%20Death%20Note%20-%2022%20%5BEAC8F657%5D.avi.torrent

Psyke

Wed, 03-14-2007, 09:15 AM

I would say so. Most of my friends are now fans of the anime and manga because of the movie. It's different from the original storyline, but remains faithful for the most part.

Yukimura

Wed, 03-14-2007, 05:45 PM

Kuro-hana - Death Note 22v2 (http://kuro-hanasubs.com/bt/%5Bkuro-hana%5D%20Death%20Note%20-%2022v2%20%5BB9AFE569%5D.avi.torrent)

Lol, I guess speed subbers make mistakes after all...

complich8

Wed, 03-14-2007, 10:08 PM

Animanda 21 (http://animanda.edwardk.info/%5BAnimanda%5D_Death_Note_-_21_%5BD7A5DE05%5D.avi.torrent) is out. They're still hanging in there.

Lucifus

Wed, 03-14-2007, 11:49 PM

Just caught up from ep 20. Death Notes on the move again. Fast paced and loving it. Looking forward to the next ep. Wonder whats going on with Lights shinigami...

complich8

Thu, 03-15-2007, 12:49 AM

I bet he's just hangin' out under an apple tree somewhere.

conan_ryuu

Fri, 03-16-2007, 01:30 AM

yey!!!! im currently watching this anime very good one!!!! a very dark story!!!! :p

Raven

Fri, 03-16-2007, 02:13 AM

22 was awesome, I love the plan they made. I'm really interested to see how this turns out, and also what Misa will do with her new found information.

Mr. Roboto

Mon, 03-19-2007, 03:26 PM

22 was awesome, I love the plan they made. I'm really interested to see how this turns out, and also what Misa will do with her new found information.

The next episode should be interesting to see what they plan to do to Higuchi. He's got a gun so it could get pretty ugly. I'm sure Light has a plan from before he discarded his death note that should start to come into play once Higuchi is gone. Misa looks like she is going to play along with what's going on right now. I think she mentioned something about "keeping her lies in order". Also, it is pretty hard for her to say anthing to Light since he's still handcuffed to L.

Terracosmo

Tue, 03-20-2007, 11:27 AM

For those who like the new opening by Maximum The Hormone, you MUST check this out.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FC5r7GLGeuQ

God I love this band. Search for their album "Bu ikikaesu" on tokyotosho, you won't be disappointed. "What's up people?!" (the 2nd death note opening) is far from their best song btw. They are freakin' crazy! They play everything from pop to black metal.

Sandldan

Tue, 03-20-2007, 02:21 PM

Discovered the band myself thanks to the death note intro, as pretty many other did it would seem. Going through a collection of their songs i got a hold of at the moment, only getting better.
Seems i got the youtube song you linked stuck in my head. Didnt have the album you linked so dling it now, thanks for the directions.

masamuneehs

Wed, 03-21-2007, 02:50 PM

The speed subbers strike fast as lightning!

Kuro-Hana Death Note Episode 23 (http://kuro-hana.edwardk.info/%5BKuro-Hana%5D%20Death%20Note%20-%2023%20%5BCC36CB4B%5D.avi.torrent)

hohoho, interesting to see how they end this...

edit - and some more releases...
Animanda __ Death Note__ Episode 22 (http://animanda.edwardk.info/%5BAnimanda%5D_Death_Note_-_22_%5BA00DD5EE%5D.avi.torrent)
C1Anime__ Death Note __ Episode 21 (http://tracker.anirena.com/download.php?id=410)

RoCk

Thu, 03-22-2007, 09:19 AM

RE: episode 23...wow, just wow.

Got my attention back, and it'll probably keep it until this anime is done. the preview made me wet myself in excitement, welcome back ryuk!

Mr. Roboto

Thu, 03-22-2007, 10:11 AM

episode 23 was great. the plan that L and Light came up with was laid out really well. it looks like L has figured out about the shinigami, but it appears he still hasn't put it all together about how Higuchi/Kira/Kira2 actually kill. watari is pretty good with a rifle. if higuchi really wanted to kill himself he could always write his own name in the death note and before he dies discard ownership of the death note so the police don't take possession of it.

gr3atfull

Fri, 03-23-2007, 01:17 PM

Wow..... L is a real genius. Now that Higuchi is captured, what will happen? Will he discard it too? And the death note seemed to be missing because the bag was open.....

Mae

Fri, 03-23-2007, 04:13 PM

The best part of the ep was Light being surprised that L was going to pilot the helicopter and asking him about it and L being like, "Of course, it's easy" in his completely deadpan voice. I completely forgot that from the manga.

Also Watari getting out his assault rifle. And L was going to give Light a gun? Doesn't he still suspect him?

Raven

Fri, 03-23-2007, 07:59 PM

So it seems as if next episode they'll all find out about the Deathnote? Considering the preview where we could see the note and someone was reading the rules, it certainly seems that way. But maybe it's just Light that gets to see it rather than L, I personally think it's too early for L to know exactly what's going on.

Cannot wait to see how this turns out, I'm on the edge of my seat.

Psyke

Fri, 03-23-2007, 11:08 PM

And L was going to give Light a gun? Doesn't he still suspect him?

L knows that Kira will never kill with a gun. I'll always remember this line that L said to Light:

"I want you to join us, even if you are Kira. Do you understand my thinking?"

Koyuki

Wed, 03-28-2007, 11:24 AM

Episode 24
http://kuro-hanasubs.com/bt/%5bKuro-Hana%5d%20Death%20Note%20-%2024%20%5b71B3B75D%5d.torrent

enjoy

NeoCybercoin

Wed, 03-28-2007, 01:25 PM

Sweet. Light is sexy once more. :D

David75

Wed, 03-28-2007, 03:05 PM

Sweet. Light is sexy once more. :D
You mean strait face, red eyes and so on?

Yup, light is very different when he becomes Kira...

Spiegel

Wed, 03-28-2007, 05:12 PM

I want to rip my hair out and throw it at my computer! I want more Deathnote now. Just too suspenseful.

Mr. Roboto

Wed, 03-28-2007, 08:50 PM

another great episode. light just has so much more personality when he's kira.

Yukimura

Wed, 03-28-2007, 08:55 PM

WTF!!!!!!

Wow, Light rules, non-Light people suck. Even though it's all based on the word of a Shinigami (who they shoulnd't be trusting at all) Light has managed to 'prove' that he and Misa couldn't have been the Kira's with his ploy...well done.

I feel like Light might plan to kill Misa though, and that could push Rem to aid L, or just kill Light him/herself.

masamuneehs

Thu, 03-29-2007, 07:06 AM

ugh, this part of the manga just made me sick... I get the same feeling watching it, but even worse, if you understand...

The whole part with Light's genius plan to get the Note and his memories back while clearing him and Misa of suspicion is, I'll admit, pure brilliance. They executed and explained it quite well. I like that they included the apple from the Shinigami World as well.

But, as if I didn't enough already, I hate Light even more now. He's just such an evil, manipulative bastard. The false rules... Ugh, you know L is the kind of guy who would never risk his men's life by trying to break them... But what's the worst is how he treats Misa. Yes, she is a stupid, stupid hopelessly obsessed whore. I always felt like this was one of the worst things Light did, taking advantage of her emotions like that. Yes it makes sense and is the smart move... But he's still such a bastard...

It still blows my mind that people can root for Light and want him to win... His whole "I'm God and all of you will submit to me!" is such arrogant crap. Anyone could have randomly picked up that Note... He didn't earn it, it's not divinve providence validating his horrible sense of justice and ambition... He's a delightful villain to watch, I admit that, but he's even too terrible for me to cheer for...

animus

Thu, 03-29-2007, 09:01 AM

He's still the protagonist. And as much as I like the whole "Good always triumphs over evil" deal, it's quite refreshing to have a protagonist like Light. It's pure gold to have a character that does not fit the whole goody two-shoes mold. He does have good intentions though, but his means to get there are ruthless and sadistic. And I love it.

David75

Thu, 03-29-2007, 09:16 AM

animus

Thu, 03-29-2007, 10:09 AM

Kira's only a name thats supposed to sound like Killer. Kira is not an entity. It's just a label.

Mae

Thu, 03-29-2007, 10:36 AM

A real vilain as a hero...

What is interresting though, is that Light is very different from Kira regarding evilness...
That's why getting to know him as light for several eps was important, as we only saw him like half an ep (or less) before he got the DN.

And after all, kira may well be someone feeding on light's spirit, wit, behaviour, to make their evilness more and more powerful.

Do you also think Kira is not Light? In fact Light is only one of the best "vessels" for Kira...

Nope, I think he's definitely the same person. The theme of Death Note is how power corrupts basically good people and how you can't achieve justice using unjust means. It's a little more fleshed out in the manga. Light starts out very much on the side of the law. His plan is to join the police like his father. Then he gets the note which is a very tempting shortcut. No studying in the police academy and moving up the ranks, no investigating crime and proving it in a court of law, no responsibility to anyone but himself. Just right down a name and bam, justice accomplished. Very, very easy.

Of course without due process it basically boils down to murder. But Light falls into the trap a lot of smart, well-intentioned people get into. He believes that he is one of the good guys, and that his intentions are just, so unlike the criminals it's ok if HE commits a crime. After all it is for the greater good. First he uses this excuse to execute criminals, then to kill the FBI agents, then basically anyone who disagrees with him or gets in his way, and without really intending it suddenly it's "I WILL BE GOD!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!11!!11!1" time.

Take the power, use it, justify your actions based on your intentions, create a new pure, good world and be the only evil person in it.