i thought it was mentioned in the stuff sasuke found in the clan's secret meeting spot.. that there were three who could use it. and then there was some obnoxiously long discussion about how in the original japanese the verb was either present or future tense (three who can use it vs. three who will be able to use it, mainly brought up to maybe rule out shisui)..
Thanks for the link. There it is. Wonder why I missed that or maybe I just plain forgot about it.During the flashbacks, definitely, but not necessarily in the same place; can't remember exactly where. May go and have a little check in a few minutes.
Edit: look here... (link to the manga where the 3rd user was mentioned, on the Narutochuushin site)
you know.....they still never explained the true purpose of the sharingan, or whatever it is that itachi implied at that is written in the clan's secret spot
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Thats what I was trying to say before. May have something to do with the younma.
would explain why oro wants the sharigan so bad. If it had some unknown power that hasn't been explained yet.
I am very curious to see what was written in those scrolls. what the true purpose of the uchiha clan is....err was=0)
I was just talking to someone who was suspecting the leader of the akatsuki to be the 4th hokage.....and I thought of a more plausible approach to bringing the 4th back into the series rather than via the akatsuki.........
remember when oro tried to summon the 1st, 2nd, and 4th hokages to fight sarutobi, but the 4th never made it?
well, that doesnt mean that oro failed to resurrect the 4th.....for all we know, he could be lying dormant in one of the deep cells of the sound mansion.
I expect orochimaru to unleash the 4th on naruto and co. once he becomes a bigger part of the story.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
i dont think so.
whew, good call sharingan-kakashi......Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
i dont think so.
you sure bring some valid points to the table
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I was kinda hopeing for that. For what ever reason naruto invades Orchimaro's lair and in order to escape he summons the 4th on naruto in order to get away with his life. As the 4th comes out of his coffin in a true empire strikes back fashion he can look naruto in the eyes and tell him that he is his father.
didnt the 3rd stop oro from summoning the 4th? thats y it never came out.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
Its very interesting that its translated completely differnt in the Anime then in the Manga. As he states that there have been 3 people in history who have obtained the Mangekyou Sharingan. This to me means that simply Susuke has a pure enough bloodline like Itachi in order to actually awaken it. Also I believe that the Mangekyou Sharingan is more of a way to prep your body for the possessin of a Tail demon. In the case of Itachi I speculate he has a Skunk demon of sorts (like Gaara's badger and Naruto's Fox) that possessed him. Thus if Itachi was possessed at the time and the demon wanted Sasuke to awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan in order to use his body at a later time (as Itachi clearly calls Sosuke's body a container).Originally posted by: Phoenix23
During the flashbacks, definitely, but not necessarily in the same place; can't remember exactly where. May go and have a little check in a few minutes.Originally posted by: LobsterMagnet
Will somebody please tell me where this reference to living third super sharingan user is. I can't find. I even reread the scene in the manga depicted in 131. Please tell me where the hell they mention it in the manga.
Edit: look here... (link to the manga where the 3rd user was mentioned, on the Narutochuushin site)
http://www.narutochuushin.com/main.p...=chapter225_04
Didn't the coffin that 3rd stopped go back into the ground?
If it didn't, it still doesn't work because Oro didn't bring the 4th with him. What are the odds of him lying in the basement of the sound mansion?
And the most important reason to why the theory is wrong is the following: it would SUCK. So much.
The bodies Oro used were random dead sound ninja's prepaired to have the soul of a random dead ninja sucked into them. No the 4th was not summoned because the 3rd prevented it. Of course I don't think that any of the Hokage's can be summoned anymore by that technique as all of there souls have been either used to pay for the god of Death or been eaten by it. Note the 1st through 3rd were all eaten when the 3rd battled orochimaru. The fourth on the other hand I believe payed with his soul in order to seal the 9 tails into Naruto. This to me atleast means we won't be seeing anymore ressurected Hokagies from the past.Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Didn't the coffin that 3rd stopped go back into the ground?
If it didn't, it still doesn't work because Oro didn't bring the 4th with him. What are the odds of him lying in the basement of the sound mansion?
And the most important reason to why the theory is wrong is the following: it would SUCK. So much.
aaahhh but what about the 4th we didnt see him [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]Originally posted by: DDBen
This to me atleast means we won't be seeing anymore ressurected Hokagies from the past.
Indeed we didn't as the summon failed. However its questionable if he can even be summoned period. The guess would have to be that its a temporary summon as even if you can will your control over them chances are when you sleep they would have the free will to kill you if they pleased. The 3rd was using the 4ths technique against Orochimaru so specifically to me atleast I would assume he already payed with his soul to seal the 9 tails so his coffin was more then likely either a bluff or a plot hole.Originally posted by: Itachi_y2k5
aaahhh but what about the 4th we didnt see him [img][/img]Originally posted by: DDBen
This to me atleast means we won't be seeing anymore ressurected Hokagies from the past.
I don't believe that Akatsuki is trying to distribute the 9 youmas amongst themselves for the following reasons:
1. Not all youmas are created equal i.e. some youmas are stronger than others.
a. If you were Itachi, and you were given the weakest of the nine youmas, would you put up with that insult? Especially if you were stronger than some of the other members. Don't you think you deserve a stronger one?
2. Who decides which youma they get? The leader? We're talking about elite ninjas who all have superiority complexes.
Seriously, if you had the opportunity now to kill someone weaker than you, before they take up a youma to enhance themselves; wouldn't you? Then you can take their youma and you would have two. You'd become even stronger. Then you just repeat this until you, yourself have all 9 youmas. Then you can climb the tallest peak and yell "I'm the king of the world!"
I believe they are using the youmas to resurrect their leader in some type of cult fashion; e.g. samurai deeper kyo, when they were trying to resurrect Nobunaga (something like that). Yeah, they're trying to resurrect Sarutobi Sasuke.
i havent read most of the posts in this thread, but i DO think each akatsuki member needs a youma
i DEFINATELY think kisame has his already and he will use it very soon, gai is gonna have to summon something to save his hide
there are other hints that indicate other akatsuki members have theirs , when they extract shikaku they said it was faster with orichimaru i think gaaraa/naruto and propably 1-2 more characters on the way will have youmas attached to them
i think every youma is an animal with an elemental property, i dont think nine tails would suit itachi , thats why i think itachi already has his, he is propably getting nine tails for another member, who is propably NOT the bossi dont think there is a leader , that guy who looks like the 4th hokage is propably the one who needs nine tails tho
Fire - Nine tails --------> With Naruto
Earth - Shikaku --------> Was with Gaara, now with artist dude forgot his name
Poison - ? I think its with the puppet maker or with orichimaru
Water - 2 tail Shark? -------> With Kisame ~ he has alot of power
Lightning - ?
Holy - ?
Ice - ?
Darkness - ?----------> propably with Itachi
Love - ? propably has medic powers!
now i dont think every youma is sealed inside like naruto , it is propably bound like gaara
i doubt the 4th is involved in any of this, it would absolutely make no sense
sorry for the name inconsistencies, i cant remember the names of the two akatsuki members that kidnapped gaara
another theory is, the only reason i think itachi has his already is that the akatsuki members travel in pairs, his good guy to bad guy change must have been influenced by that mission his dad gave him before anbu initiation, propably to invistigate on something and he discovered something else that possesed him yadda yadda, so kisame should have his too , it would explain his huge amount of power!
i hope i threw in some new things on the table, didnt read everyone elses will do in abit lol
what makes you think those are the elements associated with every youma?
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
what Assertn said. Also, akatsuki only has 2 demons so far. Gaara is the third. wouldn't make sense if Oro had a demon, or he woulda just used it's power to crush Konoha. The puppet maker doesn't have a demon, since he said he still needed one.
On top of what Assertn said, why doesn't Kyuubi suit Itachi? Specify a bit.
"You can never know everything, and part of what you know is always wrong. Perhaps even the most important part. A portion of wisdom lies in knowing that. A portion of courage lies in going on anyways."
so the puppet master doesnt have 1 damn i thought he had his already, thanks for correcting
i think every akatsuki member would have a youma based on their characterstics or their clan's characteristics or the climate their village is in? but thats just a wild guess but you could be absolutely right that nine tails is for itachi because uchinas use fire also in their jutsus so my thinking might be completely off!
elemental properties of each youma would explain how some of them are stronger than others or atleast i'd find it more interesthing that way
is it possible to kill someone with a youma? thats another thing that bothered me
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