A couple vs. fights.

[Jessper]

Originally posted by: basey_69
well if kimi hadnt of been sick, then both him and gaara wouldve been invading konoha, while yes naruto was able to beat gaara that time, do u really think he couldve taken both kimi and gaara
while i say that their chance of a successful invasion wouldve increased, i would still back konoha if this senario had occurred, that and also oro had to retreat anyway

I was under the impression that the only reason Kimi being healthy would have swung the tides of the war was that orochimaru would have used his body and easily beat sarutobi. If he had Kimi's body the death god sealing technique would not have worked.

[Y]

Originally posted by: Sam98034


NO SEAL. Yes, a full powered level 2 (or 3 right before he died?) Kimimaro would have swung the the balance of the Konoha attack. Yes, a full powered Kimi could probably take on 3 Jounins, maybe. But without seals, he is at a great disadvantage (the seals give you like how much more strength, 20x+). I don't think he would be able to kill any Jounin at that level.

Way to read what I was quoting, giggles. PSJ specifically said he didn't think that Curse Seal Kimimaro could defeat a Jounin, which was what I was responding to.

[Sam98034]

Originally posted by: Y The Alien

Originally posted by: Sam98034


NO SEAL. Yes, a full powered level 2 (or 3 right before he died?) Kimimaro would have swung the the balance of the Konoha attack. Yes, a full powered Kimi could probably take on 3 Jounins, maybe. But without seals, he is at a great disadvantage (the seals give you like how much more strength, 20x+). I don't think he would be able to kill any Jounin at that level.

Way to read what I was quoting, giggles. PSJ specifically said he didn't think that Curse Seal Kimimaro could defeat a Jounin, which was what I was responding to.

Ok, I'm an idiot. Oh well, who cares. arg.

[basey44]

Originally posted by: Jessper

Originally posted by: basey_69
well if kimi hadnt of been sick, then both him and gaara wouldve been invading konoha, while yes naruto was able to beat gaara that time, do u really think he couldve taken both kimi and gaara
while i say that their chance of a successful invasion wouldve increased, i would still back konoha if this senario had occurred, that and also oro had to retreat anyway

I was under the impression that the only reason Kimi being healthy would have swung the tides of the war was that orochimaru would have used his body and easily beat sarutobi. If he had Kimi's body the death god sealing technique would not have worked.

explain how it wouldnt have worked, a layer of bone isnt going to stop the removal of a soul, cos the soul isnt even made of matter

[Jessper]

Originally posted by: basey_69

Originally posted by: Jessper

Originally posted by: basey_69
well if kimi hadnt of been sick, then both him and gaara wouldve been invading konoha, while yes naruto was able to beat gaara that time, do u really think he couldve taken both kimi and gaara
while i say that their chance of a successful invasion wouldve increased, i would still back konoha if this senario had occurred, that and also oro had to retreat anyway

I was under the impression that the only reason Kimi being healthy would have swung the tides of the war was that orochimaru would have used his body and easily beat sarutobi. If he had Kimi's body the death god sealing technique would not have worked.

explain how it wouldnt have worked, a layer of bone isnt going to stop the removal of a soul, cos the soul isnt even made of matter

shooting bones out and impaling sarutobi's head might have stopped it though, eh? Close combat is extremely dangerous against someone with his bloodline limit, much less a long grappling move. And after sarutobi he could have gone and killed pretty much everyone. Thus turning the tides of war.

[Sam98034]

um...Jiraiya was still in Konoha, Oro would still have to deal with him.

[Jessper]

Originally posted by: Sam98034
um...Jiraiya was still in Konoha, Oro would still have to deal with him.

My guess would be that oro would beat Jiraiya with the use of his arms and a bloodline limit like that. Would be interesting, but it has a better chance of happening than Kimimaro beating Jiraiya somehow.

[kaigan]

kimi beat jiraiya? how can some1 even think of that, that's just stupidity. I still think jiraiya could take down Orochimaru based on the itachi comment earlier in the episodes.

[darkemage]

Originally posted by: kaigan
kimi beat jiraiya? how can some1 even think of that, that's just stupidity. I still think jiraiya could take down Orochimaru based on the itachi comment earlier in the episodes.

yea i agree... i dont think a normal person can defeat jiraya...even since itachi and the shark guy fears him...and indirectly oro says itachi would kill him easily so u see...

oro fears itachi
itachi fears jiraiya

jiraiya strongest.....


oro was lucky jiraiya was still drugged when they fought in the fields or hed be dead


and to the fight between lee and sasuke....i still think lee would win (since you say they have same speed..havent check ep yet) even so lee's taijisu is better then sasuke since thats all he trains and i dont know how helpful sharigan would be since theres nothing to copy..only playingt those mind games like itachi would work but sasuke is too much of a pansy to know how to do that...and if lee were to drink sake...then sasuke would go down even quicker since his moves would just be random at that point...rules said no gates..not no sake

[Jessper]

Originally posted by: darkemage

Originally posted by: kaigan
kimi beat jiraiya? how can some1 even think of that, that's just stupidity. I still think jiraiya could take down Orochimaru based on the itachi comment earlier in the episodes.

yea i agree... i dont think a normal person can defeat jiraya...even since itachi and the shark guy fears him...and indirectly oro says itachi would kill him easily so u see...

oro fears itachi
itachi fears jiraiya

jiraiya strongest.....

oro was lucky jiraiya was still drugged when they fought in the fields or hed be dead

saying oro fears itachi and itachi fears jiraiya to prove that jiraiya is the strongest is non-sense. With arms oro may be able to beat Jiraiya (no drugs) but not Itachi. Oro knows Jiraiya well, but not Itachi. Maybe his fears of Itachi are irrational and he might know what Jiraiya is capable of and be able to out smart him and win. We can't really tell at this point.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: darkemage
itachi fears jiraiya

Yeah... after he uses mangekyou sharingan twice before the encounter.

But you know, I guess you can ignore that... (not)