That makes no sense. From what we've seen so far, any genjutsu performed by the eyes can effect anyone who is looking into the genjutsu user's eyes. This includes regular genjutsu and Tsukuyomi. For Itachi to kill a billion people, all he has to do is get in front of everyone and use tsukuyomi once and they'll all die (given that all of them looked into his eyes).
Yeah, he was vulnerable to attacks from someone behind him or who wasn't there at the time he initiated the attack, but anyone in front of him stupid enough to look is fucked.Originally posted by: naruto-kira
Rewatch the anime Rhanfahl, the first fight, Kakashi, Asuma, Kurenai vs Itachi Kisame. He is vulnerble to other attacks when using Tsukuyomi.
Probably Itachi wasted it on Kakashi because for some reason he likes to use it on Sharingan users.
I agree mostly with OP on current strength:
1) Jiraya
2) Itachi
3) Orochimaru
4) Tsunade
Though I would think Tsuande can handle Kisame (the shark guy).
Itachi is weaker than Jiraya in that Itachi admitted that there is no way they can take on Jiraya without dieing, which assumes he means ever, not just that day when he used up some of his power.
Remember, Jiraya nearly killed two Atasuki members with just one move (the frog stomach thing).
The only other ninja more power than Jiraya (shown so far), is a young Third Hokage.
Even the Fourth Hokage wouldn't be able to beat Jiraya, unless the Fourth used the sealing move of course, but thats more of a draw.
I'm pretty sure they were scared of Jiraya.Originally posted by: vanitysp
when kisame and itachi mention that they'd be killed...or at worst a 'double-kill' they were never talking about jaraiya...its funny to me how you guys must be fanatics but can't understand sub-titles...what they did was pay the biggest respects to naruto/nine-tails...if you go back and view that conversation u'll realize that i am right...and as for their comments on naruto's companion which happened to be jaraiya...kisame said that even him and itachi's name pale in comparison to the sannin
They certainly weren't scared of Naruto, and Kisame even suggested at one point to cut off Naruto's legs. Apparently they're not worried that Naruto will use his Kyuubi strength.
So are they saying they are scared of the Nine-Tails? Could be, but why talk about that when you just got out of a fight with Jiraya?
Think about it, if they wanted Naruto so bad, and they are stronger than Jiraya, they could have gotten at least a few more Atasuki members to take out the Sannin and kidnap Naruto.
But they can't. As long as Jiraya is protecting Naruto, they admitted that they could only force a double-kill at best.
as much as i love orochi.. i would have to agree with
1) Jiraiya
2) Itachi (at full health)
3) Orochimaru
4) Tsunade *not soo sure about this one..
where do you guys think the 3rd (Saritobi) would be at his prime?
I definately hope Neji will top this list eventually, he is definately the most promising character strength wise..
that "scared of naruto" comment is pretty weak considering kisame was offering to cut him limb to limb for easy travellin', they were definately afraid of jiraiya and with good cause
Sorry, but a lot of your points are very incorrect.Originally posted by: CapsuleCorpJX
Probably Itachi wasted it on Kakashi because for some reason he likes to use it on Sharingan users.
I agree mostly with OP on current strength:
1) Jiraya
2) Itachi
3) Orochimaru
4) Tsunade
Though I would think Tsuande can handle Kisame (the shark guy).
Itachi is weaker than Jiraya in that Itachi admitted that there is no way they can take on Jiraya without dieing, which assumes he means ever, not just that day when he used up some of his power.
Remember, Jiraya nearly killed two Atasuki members with just one move (the frog stomach thing).
The only other ninja more power than Jiraya (shown so far), is a young Third Hokage.
Even the Fourth Hokage wouldn't be able to beat Jiraya, unless the Fourth used the sealing move of course, but thats more of a draw.
I think this is the most truthful and relavent post in this thread........There is a simple proof to this too......What you might ask? The Fact that someone can beat Itachi could exist in narutos world But might get beat by another character...Originally posted by: Crows_Kill
I think its been said before, but it does bear repeating- Naruto does not follow a strict "power level" arrangement when it comes to the power of the characters.
If they did start that, I think it woul really detract from the series. Alot of the coments from characters about how strong they/their oppenents are reflect their own perceptions of how strong they think they are, not strict "im lvl 3500 he's lvl 4000, theres no way i can win" type comparisons. Thats one way I enjoy naruto- the characters are more human and falable than most comic or manga characters. They tend to underestimate their own abilities and over estimate their oppenents- none of this "I'm greater and I'll hold back to make the fight interesting" bs (except for a few scenes with kakashi and oro, but they could both arguably be called the 2 most arrogant characters of the series, god love them both).
The only true test of the characters would be if kishimoto would actauly write a fight between them. Story wise, I think it would depend alot on how rested the characters are, the circumstances of the fight and who got the drop on who, alot like a real fight. Not just whos jutsu is greater.
Of course everyone has their favorites and are going to post :"insert-favorite-ninja 0wns j00 n00bs" as well, but only time and kishimot will tell.
....but If we got to import someone .... I think the best hope would be
NONE OTHER THEN LYNX-O from the THUNDERCATS! All of Itchai's Crazy Eye Braink explodin Techniques can do nothing to Lynx-O cuz he is Blind.... and you know he is powerful... Becuase he has a O at the end of his name.....And Unlike Lion-O... Lynx-O also has Age and experience on his side so I say the Revised powerlisting should be more like....
Number Extra 1 above everyone else .) LINX-O
1) Jiraya
2) Itachi
3) Orochimaru
4) Tsunade
Like what?Originally posted by: Mut@chi
Sorry, but a lot of your points are very incorrect.
I hate when people like you just say "your wrong" and show nothing to prove me wrong, or even tell me which points.
Originally posted by: Y
There is no logical way to counter Itachi's genjutsu that destroys your mind besides the anime martial artist tactic of closing your eyes and 'feeling' the enemy's position and moves with chakra. Since there's no indication that anyone in Naruto can do this reliably, Itachi would thrash ANYONE in a straight up fight just by looking at them and exploding their brain.
It's already shown that Gai can fight a sharingan user without looking into his eyes.
And a Hyuuga would have no problem using the byakugan to detect him (within range). I bet they can see through their own eyelids with it if they can see through solid objects.
Also, commenting on Tsunades fighting abilities, didn't she get totally wtfpned by Kabuto? All he had to do was dodge and run untill she was tired and then bam, he kicks her butt by cutting her muscles. Although she can use that life shortening instant healing jutsu, she still got her butt kicked.
I think Kabuto had a soldier pill.
That and Tsunade was out of practice.
Who knows, maybe Kabuto is much stronger than he lets on. He is the most mysterious figure in the anime, and a true ninja (i.e. uses deception, is a spy and cares nothing for rank).
Tsunade would explode his ass now because shes over her blood phobia
Tsunade is the strongest amoung the 3 sannin believe it or not...She has medical jutsu surpass the "Summon Death Jutsu" of Yondaime and Sandaime has...Oro went to her to cure it...meaning he can surpassing jutsu that takes soul away...With 1 pinky she can send you flying...Kabuto is no where near Tsunade...Tsunade had blood phobiea
Oh yeah....let's not forget...she's also as old as some of your grandmothers. Give the woman a fucking break, yeah she's out of shape...but...she's got years of training, experience, intelligence, AND menopause on her side. You don't fuck with that shit.
LOL menopause XD
To me its
1.Itachi(even if u dont see into his eyes Itachi can use other jutsu and the best one ~Amaterasu~
2.Tsunade(shes old and has menopause lol but seriously I do think she is the 2nd strongest)
3.Oro with arms
4.Jiraiya
5.Oro wothout arms
@ CapsuleCorpJX: I do not understand why people place Jiraiya at the number one position, when Jiraiya failed to bring Orochimaru back. They were both classified as Sannin then, and Jiraiya could not beat Orochimaru. Granted numerous years have passed, and surely Jiraiya's vastly improved, but I do not believe to the level of Orochimaru. The dude's creating Kinjutsu for fun.
And, you don't think Yondaime could have taken on Jiraiya? I think people don't associate his name with fear or intimidation only because of his kind nature and because he is dead. Why bring them up? He was surely a monster, though.
01. Itachi
02. Tsunade
03. Orochimaru
04. Jiraiya
05. Hiashi
I'm still thinking that the Akatsuki are led by the figure with the different eyes. I believe he may turn out to be the strongest character. But, with no name, he might as well not exist, and so the list above stands.
"kisame (hes more around kakashis level, not tsunades)"
said by: basey44
How can Kisame be around Kakashi's level if he's an S class and Kakashi is an A-class
I foresee a confrontation between Itachi and the Akatsuki leader (prolly in regards to killing Sasuke). I also foresee Itachi showing just how powerful he is and mopping the floor with this leader.
Where do you think Sasori and Deirdara fit in to this discussion? They seem to get little respect then again maybe it's because their both dead but still Sasori killed the third sand kazekage and single handedly destroyed an entire nation. That's got to count for something?
Originally posted by: Strider
@ CapsuleCorpJX: I do not understand why people place Jiraiya at the number one position, when Jiraiya failed to bring Orochimaru back. They were both classified as Sannin then, and Jiraiya could not beat Orochimaru. Granted numerous years have passed, and surely Jiraiya's vastly improved, but I do not believe to the level of Orochimaru. The dude's creating Kinjutsu for fun.
And, you don't think Yondaime could have taken on Jiraiya? I think people don't associate his name with fear or intimidation only because of his kind nature and because he is dead. Why bring them up? He was surely a monster, though.
01. Itachi
02. Tsunade
03. Orochimaru
04. Jiraiya
05. Hiashi
I'm still thinking that the Akatsuki are led by the figure with the different eyes. I believe he may turn out to be the strongest character. But, with no name, he might as well not exist, and so the list above stands.
yondamine had to be badass, for god sakes he was
1. taught by jiraya
2. taught kakashi
3. referred to as "the lightning flash"
4. took out an army of rock ninjas....
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
I wouldnt say single handedly. he probaly used that puppet summon jutsu and had them do the work for him. now what yondaime did w/ that rock army (thanks CK for bringing it up) was single handed and rather manly.Originally posted by: LobsterMagnet
...and single handedly destroyed an entire nation. That's got to count for something?
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