Who is really the STRONGEST

**Jman** · Sun, 07-31-2005, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by: naruto-kira
nah, i dont think jiraiya is the strongest, itachi> orochimaru>jiraiya, jiraiya did beat itachi in a way, but itachi never used mangouku sharigan against him.
i would say the strongest right now would still be naruto, i dont think mangouku sharigan will kill naruto or even work jus because inside of naruto is kyuubi there and not to forget
naruto is getting stronger as he get older, naruto body cant take to much of kyuubi chakara, and naruto vs sasuke battle naruto only used the nine tails 1/9 of the true power it has,
considering u saw only 1 tail came out of naruto....and in the manga jiraiya told naruto not to use a new jutsu, i think that jutsu is really strong. maybe strong enuff to beat itachi already..

Guess you missed the chapter where Naruto damn near choked himself to death(ch257).
Mind you that wasn't even because of the mangekyo. He couldn't handle that genjutsu,
what makes you think he wouldn't be affected by mangekyo at all. You sound like a fanboy.
You ignore the rules of logic and sensibility.
FISSION MAILED

**naruto-kira** · Mon, 08-01-2005, 11:00 PM

Im saying Naruto because he got the most potential to me, I did read ch 257, if Naruto would Spark up any of Kyuubi Chakara by jus alittle no genjutsu would take any affect, because there are 2 type of chakara running through Naruto's body, and Genjutsu takes control of only 1 of the chakara flow.

**mage** · Tue, 08-02-2005, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by: naruto-kira
Im saying Naruto because he got the most potential to me, I did read ch 257, if Naruto would Spark up any of Kyuubi Chakara by jus alittle no genjutsu would take any affect, because there are 2 type of chakara running through Naruto's body, and Genjutsu takes control of only 1 of the chakara flow.

Way to make things up.

**Jman** · Tue, 08-02-2005, 07:31 PM

@naruto-kira:
Genjutsu takes control of only 1 of thechakra flow?!
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Stop making things up.

**drcitan** · Tue, 08-02-2005, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by: animemaster
@naruto-kira:
Genjutsu takes control of only 1 of thechakra flow?!
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Stop making things up.

Its no use dude. The flow of stupidity will continue to flow no matter how right you are.

**samsonlonghair** · Wed, 08-03-2005, 12:04 AM

I hear that Genjutsu controls only one type of bullshit flow. Since naruto-kira has multiple bullshit flows, he'll just make stuff up regardless of what Jutsu anyone uses.

**folf** · Wed, 08-03-2005, 01:10 AM

do those tailed beasts get any stronger? Are they simply really strong and as the character gets stronger, the channeling of the beast improves?

**naruto-kira** · Wed, 08-03-2005, 04:39 AM

i aint bSing have u read how a genjutsu work???before u said im BSing.

Naruto got caught in genjutsu first, if he activate kyuubi chakara b4 the fight,he shouldn't get affected, of course once u caught in MS its mostly over. But there are things to prevent it from happening first.

**mage** · Wed, 08-03-2005, 04:44 AM

When was it ever said genjutus can only effect a single chakra flow?

**naruto-kira** · Wed, 08-03-2005, 05:22 AM

Jiraiya explained it... chapter 259 page 10, it didn't nessasry said Genjutsu control one source of chakara in the body, but considering each person only got 1 type of Chakara FLowing in there body.And also Genjutsu can only be target 1 person at a time, which basically meaning 1 chakara flow, In order to disrupt break genjutsu, is to disrupt the chakara flow, and Kyuubi is the perfect candidate to do that. Because genjutsu can target 1 person at a time only, but with the Kyuubi Chakara running through Naruto's body, it can easily be prevented. All the time i watch Naruto, Naruto never got caught in a genjutsu if he's on Kyuubi Mode.

There is probably no way to counter in MS once its caught, but surely there was ways to prevent it from hapening, The Akatsuki leader is not a Sharigan User, (he should be able to beat itachi)...and he's the leader, meaning MS is not like undeafeatable.

**basey44** · Wed, 08-03-2005, 05:25 AM

Originally posted by: folf
do those tailed beasts get any stronger? Are they simply really strong and as the character gets stronger, the channeling of the beast improves?

the 2nd one, the monsters can only give the host as much power as they can handle, the monsters though (especially the nine tails) have a seemingly infinate amount of chakra

Originally posted by: naruto-kira
Naruto never got caught in a genjutsu if he's on Kyuubi Mode

no ones even done a genjutsu on him in kyuubi mode, so you dont know

**basey44** · Wed, 08-03-2005, 05:28 AM

crap sorry double post

**naruto-kira** · Wed, 08-03-2005, 05:53 AM

theorically, Genjutsu shouldn't take affect if he's on Kyuubi Mode, if Jiraiya meant the thing he was saying about disrupting Chakara

**The Heretic Azazel** · Wed, 08-03-2005, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by: naruto-kira
Jiraiya explained it... chapter 259 page 10, it didn't nessasry said Genjutsu control one source of chakara in the body, but considering each person only got 1 type of Chakara FLowing in there body.And also Genjutsu can only be target 1 person at a time, which basically meaning 1 chakara flow, In order to disrupt break genjutsu, is to disrupt the chakara flow, and Kyuubi is the perfect candidate to do that. Because genjutsu can target 1 person at a time only, but with the Kyuubi Chakara running through Naruto's body, it can easily be prevented. All the time i watch Naruto, Naruto never got caught in a genjutsu if he's on Kyuubi Mode.

There is probably no way to counter in MS once its caught, but surely there was ways to prevent it from hapening, The Akatsuki leader is not a Sharigan User, (he should be able to beat itachi)...and he's the leader, meaning MS is not like undeafeatable.

You don't make any sense, ever.

**naruto-kira** · Wed, 08-03-2005, 04:08 PM

Instead of saying, im not making any sense, prove me wrong,???instead of being in denial,reread chapter 259..., I am basing what the manga said.. 1 Genjutsu can only target 1 person at a time. A genjutsu can be broken if someone touches you, placing there own chakara to disrupt yours, and Kyuubi running through naruto bodyies means the same thing....

**Hikyuu** · Wed, 08-03-2005, 04:48 PM

Umm what about that Genjutsu spell that was used during the chuunin exams? Where you are getting the rest of this stuff I do not know. In that chapter they said if you can control your chakra.. and prevent it from leaking out ,or something of the sort, you can break a genjutsu. Sometimes physical pain or a sudden burst of chakra can also break the spell.

**The Heretic Azazel** · Wed, 08-03-2005, 04:55 PM

When Itachi and Kisame met up with Kakashi, Kurenai and Asuma, Kakashi told them to cover their eyes or else they would be affected by the genjutsu AS WELL AS Kakashi. So yes, there was fear Itachi could affect all three of them at the same time.

**naruto-kira** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 01:41 AM

Tsukuyomi can only occupied 1 person at a time, Kakashi didn't know that time. i shouldn't say all genjutsu...my bad.

**Rhanfahl** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 02:04 AM

Well that was all bullshit, but one thing that could make since. Who's to think petty human genjutsu, could affect the mind of a huge fuckoff ancient demon, with nearly omnipotent abilities...

as for this

Tsukuyomi can only occupied 1 person at a time, Kakashi didn't know that time. i shouldn't say all genjutsu...my bad.

where the fuck does it say that. Heretic is right, and Kira has succeeded in opening all 8 gates of bullshit.

This has gotten so off topic...but I guess that's a good thing since the topic is shit.

**naruto-kira** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 02:44 AM

Rewatch the anime Rhanfahl, the first fight, Kakashi, Asuma, Kurenai vs Itachi Kisame. He is vulnerble to other attacks when using Tsukuyomi.

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