Who is really the STRONGEST

tommy_l337_n1nj4 · Sun, 06-26-2005, 11:15 AM

I know that this has been going on long enough but i have to point out that itachi is not necesarrily the strongest. When he said the best he could hope for against Jaraiya was a double kill, how do you know that he meant at that moment that he was tired, i think if that was what he was thinking he would have waited till the next day when he was better to ensure his victory. And then people say that Orochimaru said Itachi is better than him and Jiraiya was having trouble against him so that means he can't match Itachi, BUT let's not forget that Jiraiya was DRUGGED by Tsunade and had only a little more than half of half of his strength back during that fight, so imagine how bad he would have raped orochimaru ( i don't literally mean rape either, i just try to avoid cursing.) and the Fourth could take on an army and was able to at least stop the kyubi which an army of Konoha ninjas couldn't do so i say the real debate is between Jiraiya and the Fourth but since the fourth is dead it's Jiraiya. But the thread never said that the debate was only for the living characters, it said who is the strongest not who is the strongest amongst the living. So it's between the fourth and Jiraiya. Point made and i think that about solves that whole strong circle/triangle thing and leaves it at Jiraiya being the strongest at the moment.

**naruto-kira** · Mon, 06-27-2005, 12:21 AM

nah, i dont think jiraiya is the strongest, itachi> orochimaru>jiraiya, jiraiya did beat itachi in a way, but itachi never used mangouku sharigan against him.
i would say the strongest right now would still be naruto, i dont think mangouku sharigan will kill naruto or even work jus because inside of naruto is kyuubi there and not to forget
naruto is getting stronger as he get older, naruto body cant take to much of kyuubi chakara, and naruto vs sasuke battle naruto only used the nine tails 1/9 of the true power it has,
considering u saw only 1 tail came out of naruto....and in the manga jiraiya told naruto not to use a new jutsu, i think that jutsu is really strong. maybe strong enuff to beat itachi already..

**Rhanfahl** · Mon, 06-27-2005, 01:12 PM

sigh....this is such a pointless topic at this point...aren't there already a billion other threads just like this? Or at least ones that break off into this very discussion?

***Terracosmo*** · Mon, 06-27-2005, 01:32 PM

I'm surprised at the lack of Udon jokes in this topic.

***Assertn*** · Mon, 06-27-2005, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
I would consider all of the Sound Five as Jounin-level, especially Kidoumarou, Kimi and Sakon.

Considering that 2 worn out konoha jounins almost beat all 4 of them combined WITH level 2 curse seals, i'd have to argue that

**weakest anbu** · Mon, 06-27-2005, 05:41 PM

base on the databook stats.

kimimaro = jounin. the rest = chunnins.

Originally posted by: naruto-kira
i would say the strongest right now would still be naruto, i dont think mangouku sharigan will kill naruto or even work jus because inside of naruto is kyuubi there and not to forget
naruto is getting stronger as he get older, naruto body cant take to much of kyuubi chakara, and naruto vs sasuke battle naruto only used the nine tails 1/9 of the true power it has,
considering u saw only 1 tail came out of naruto....and in the manga jiraiya told naruto not to use a new jutsu, i think that jutsu is really strong. maybe strong enuff to beat itachi already..

Ok. I am going to try this again. WHAT THE FUCK!!!

Why would itachi waste a mangekyou on naruto... just couple of chapters ago we saw a 30% itachi completely fucked up naruto with just ONE finger. By the time naruto does his little slow ass hand seals for "that jutsu", hes already fucking dead(or sleep so they can extract kyuubi). And I dont believe that 1 tail bullshit. Naruto's body couldnt even handle that 1 tail mode... now imagine what will happen to him if theres a 9 tails level.

**naruto-ton** · Mon, 07-04-2005, 05:21 PM

if u say that, then everyone is gonna be killed by itachi before using any hand seals, i think as ninja's get older they r alot more clever, and i naruto kyuubi is alot stronger than itachi, all naruto had to do is learn how to release nine tail chakara better and his speed will increase by alot. who needs speed when they have all the power in the world...who knows naruto could even have a auto barrier protecting him if he release more nine tails...like gaara but prolly alot more stronger. considering gaara's monster is the weakest one of all. because it only got 1 tail...

**Psyke** · Wed, 07-06-2005, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by: naruto-ton
who needs speed when they have all the power in the world...

Who needs all the power in the world when no one can hit you? Sounds like an old Trunks lesson.

**Konohamaru** · Wed, 07-06-2005, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by: naruto-ton
considering gaara's monster is the weakest one of all. because it only got 1 tail...

Just because he has one tail doesn't mean he is the weakest. I won't even say who I think is the strongest cos it'll just drag this forum longer than it pointlessly should

**Rhanfahl** · Tue, 07-12-2005, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by: Konohamaru

Originally posted by: naruto-ton
considering gaara's monster is the weakest one of all. because it only got 1 tail...

Just because he has one tail doesn't mean he is the weakest. I won't even say who I think is the strongest cos it'll just drag this forum longer than it pointlessly should

Its already 6 pages too long.

vanitysp · Tue, 07-12-2005, 06:43 PM

when kisame and itachi mention that they'd be killed...or at worst a 'double-kill' they were never talking about jaraiya...its funny to me how you guys must be fanatics but can't understand sub-titles...what they did was pay the biggest respects to naruto/nine-tails...if you go back and view that conversation u'll realize that i am right...and as for their comments on naruto's companion which happened to be jaraiya...kisame said that even him and itachi's name pale in comparison to the sannin

ken-sama · Tue, 07-12-2005, 11:10 PM

correct you are, vanitysp. it's true. itachi and kisame were indeed respecting naruto, because they did not know how strong naruto was. they knew he had the kyuubi, so naturally they assumed he would automatically harness the powers of it and be at least that strong. as for who is the strongest (in the series right now)? it is no doubt ero-sennin...aka...jiraiya-sama. keep in mind strongest does not mean physically the strongest, but simply the most powerfull, skilled, complete, etc. ninja. itachi has a tonne of talent no doubt. orochimaru admits itachi is stronger. however, jiraiya has the experience, the brute force techniques, the blood contracts with the frogs, knowledge of a lot of techniques passed down to him, etc. and he's a respected "legendary sanin"...yeh legendary...itachi and kisame themselves respect him as a sanin.

**American Hero** · Wed, 07-13-2005, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by: Konohamaru

Originally posted by: naruto-ton
considering gaara's monster is the weakest one of all. because it only got 1 tail...

Just because he has one tail doesn't mean he is the weakest. I won't even say who I think is the strongest cos it'll just drag this forum longer than it pointlessly should

Geeze, guys. We wouldn't want to drag this forum on longer than it pointlessly should. That would be as ridiculous as the sentence in which it was stated.

Itachi is the strongest, by the way.

**Hakeem_21** · Wed, 07-13-2005, 01:46 AM

I cant say who is the strongest before we have seen Jiraya fight a real fight. We have seen the other people who might be the strongest fight people like Itachi,Tsunade,Oro.

**naruto-kira** · Thu, 07-14-2005, 03:10 AM

quote- Just because he has one tail doesn't mean he is the weakest. I won't even say who I think is the strongest cos it'll just drag this forum longer than it pointlessly should

Rhanfahl- u gotta read the naruto open discussion forum about kitsune and the myths, read the post the describe the 9 demons, u will know wut am i talking about. kyuubi is the king amoung the 9 demons.......

btw, i feel naruto is the strongest whats inside of him, never gonna know what will happen....if we c a berserk naruto...

quote-Who needs all the power in the world when no one can hit you? Sounds like an old Trunks lesson.

power doesn't = jus strength....or chakara/energy.....

power is everything including speed......

**Konohamaru** · Thu, 07-14-2005, 10:10 AM

power, strength and speed is also nothing with out accuracy [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

**PSJ** · Thu, 07-14-2005, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by: Terracosmo
I'm surprised at the lack of Udon jokes in this topic.

Those were banned like a month after it got invented as it annoyed the hell out of everybody.

I'm suprised this thread is still going.

**Rhanfahl** · Thu, 07-14-2005, 11:06 AM

To quote my new favorite quote/post

Mut says

"Fuck this thread"

tommy_l337_n1nj4 · Sun, 07-31-2005, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by: vanitysp
when kisame and itachi mention that they'd be killed...or at worst a 'double-kill' they were never talking about jaraiya...its funny to me how you guys must be fanatics but can't understand sub-titles...what they did was pay the biggest respects to naruto/nine-tails...if you go back and view that conversation u'll realize that i am right...and as for their comments on naruto's companion which happened to be jaraiya...kisame said that even him and itachi's name pale in comparison to the sannin

then why did they have to bother having Jiraiya out of the picture while they kidnapped naruto? seems to me you didn't interpret the subs correctly.

**PSJ** · Sun, 07-31-2005, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by: vanitysp
when kisame and itachi mention that they'd be killed...or at worst a 'double-kill' they were never talking about jaraiya...its funny to me how you guys must be fanatics but can't understand sub-titles...what they did was pay the biggest respects to naruto/nine-tails...if you go back and view that conversation u'll realize that i am right...and as for their comments on naruto's companion which happened to be jaraiya...kisame said that even him and itachi's name pale in comparison to the sannin

Ah i must have missed this post last time i looked through this thread.

This is complete bullshit. Do you really think Itachi and Kisame thought Naruto was strong enough to defeat them?

What they were talking about was that Jiraiya is to much for them to handle, that's why they went through the trouble of using genjutsu on that woman.

If you go read that chapter again you will realise that you are wrong. They just consider naruto a punk that happens to be the container of Kyuubi. If they thought they would be killed by Naruto they wouldn't turn their back at him like Itachi did when Sasuke appeared and when Naruto tried to attack all Kisame did was to draw his sword and suck out Naruto's chakra, then he turned around and talked to Itachi a bit. Now correct me if i'm wrong but that is not the way you behave when you think someone standing right next to you is strong enough to kill you and your partner at the same time.

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