The way we write

[Hikyuu]

In reference to using short forms/ Abbreviations/Acronyms... I recently started an internship at CMS ( centers for medicare & medicaid services) inside the the HIGLAS ( Healthcare Integrated General Ledger Accounting
System) department on the TCG ( Technical Configuration Group) working with UID (User Identification) entry and orginization. From my experience in my brief stay here, the IT (information technology ) industry has become detached from the real world due to overuse of Acornyms and the like. Sentences become cluttered with that jargon as you try to pronounce and decipher these terms all at the same time. I am just glad that the online world is not at this level of uselessness.. Hope no IT people on the forums take offense but it is rediculous..
Kit: Nice topic, Id enjoy someone to breakdown my horrid typing.. see what insight into my persona I could get but no rush, I can bug you later [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]...
P.S. POST 100 [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] w00t w00t >> << .>>

[XanBcoo]

I'm usually bothered by people using "AOL" shortcuts like u, 2, 4, but what really gets me is when really simple contractions are ignored ("im" instead of "I'm") for example. grrr

On the other hand, I think whole sentences in leet are impressive (albeit a little immature), hehe. I can't read that shit at all.

in regards to misspelling, has anyone else read that thing where every word is misspelled, but you can still read it? It has something to do with the fact that we can recognize a word by the first and last letters, and as long as most of the letters are correct, it doesn't matter what order they're in. Becuase we dn't reed snetences adn wrds letler for letter, adn usually only llok at the frist nd laest ltters, our braines pck up the meagnings automtcially. I think that's cool.

But people who generally ignore spelling/grammar rules and speak in "omfg-runon-sentences" piss me off.

[ChaosK]

umm xanbcoo...

Originally posted by: xanbcoo
I was afraid my compy was screwin' up

ironic no? [img]i/expressions/beer.gif[/img]

[XanBcoo]

Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
umm xanbcoo...

Originally posted by: xanbcoo
I was afraid my compy was screwin' up

ironic no? [img][/img]

Originally posted by: KitKat
Second example is one of our newer members, Chaoskiddo, who's been hassled for his grammar and spelling recently. The question that was posed to him was why would he use 'wuz' in the place of 'was' since they both have the same amount of letters and hence it's not saving him any time. I think the answer to this lies in fact that language is often used not just to convey information but also to build solidarity between people. One of the ways that this is done, is by having a certain dialect that you use with your friends, with which you relate to each other, but don't necessarily use with outsiders. In my opinion, Chaoskiddo's use of 'wuz' and such, words that he normally uses with his friends, signifies that he regards us as his peers, and is relating to us on that level.

So in response, No. Not really.
And in case you're wondering, I say "compy" in real life - it's not a shortcut.

[ChaosK]

03/21/2005 09:57 PM <---the date and time of kitkat's post. To clear it up i use "was" now. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

my question really should've been "was that sarcasm?"

[SK]

Originally posted by: KitKat
I'm not generally bothered by internet short forms, but when they are used excessively in a single post, I admit that I get annoyed trying to read it. Just on a side note, I've been playing a lot of Guild Wars lately. Internet short forms are rampant there. When I need to find some random people to do a quest with me, I look at the way they type first. I only quest with people who type in complete sentences and have good spelling and grammar. People who take the time to communicate clearly in regular conversation are more likely to communicate clearly in a mission and will show good teamwork and strategy skills. I'm sure there are lots of people who use internet short forms and are fabulous players, but it's always a gamble because I never know if they're going to be an asset or a hindrance to the team. However, I've never had a bad experience playing with someone who types well.

hmm with daoc (dark age of camelot) there was kind of a whole lingo we used there while playing, and used a lot of shortened words etc. like fotm, irl, inc, df, ding, and normal stuff like brb etc. the reason being is daoc is all about rvr, (realm vs realm, team based pvp, player vs player) and when youre fighting you dont really have time to right out everything. another point you made about using the lingo you use with friends here i thought was interesting. i noticed here i talk differently for a couple reasons mostly being so people will understand me and not ask what "this" means. anyway i suppose i write in this way, without capitilization and punctuation, because it feels more laid back to me, and im usually here to chill (relax.)

[XanBcoo]

Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
03/21/2005 09:57 PM <---the date and time of kitkat's post. To clear it up i use "was" now. [img][/img]

my question really should've been "was that sarcasm?"

Hey, I usually respond with well thought out posts (or at least I like to think so, [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]). That was a dumb topic, so I wasn't really being serious anyway. My point is still that there were no "grammatical errors" and the diction I used was reflective of how I'd usually respond to that sort of thing (using "screwin'" instead of "screwing").
If I had I meant to sound sarcastic I would have said something along the lines of: "OMFG THERE IS HAX0R ON T3H LOSE"

[Hikyuu]

Originally posted by: xanbcoo
"OMFG THERE IS HAX0R ON T3H LOSE"

0//\/\\6z!1!!1!!oneone!! WHREE [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]

P.S (Post.. something) Why is this thread not being pposted on.. it was such an interesting topic. Has it lost its flare already?

[KitKat]

Aha! I have found my thread again! Partly, I just want it to be archived and searchable in the new system. Also, I thought you guys might find this interesting:

We've been learning in my linguistics class about 'empty' or contentless words and phrases. Things that you say, but that don't really mean anything at all. I find it fascinating how accepted the practice of using these words has become in academic fields. Take, for example, the winner of the 1998 Bad Academic Writing Awards, Judith Butler, with her winning sentence:

"The move from a structuralist account in which capital is understood to structure social relations in relatively homologous ways to a view of hegemony in which power relations are subject to repetition, convergence, and rearticulation brought the question of temporality into the thinking of structure, and marked a shift from a form of Althusserian theory that takes structural totalities as theoretical objects to one in which the insights into the contingent possibility of structure inaugurate a renewed conception of hegemony as bound up with the contingent sites and strategies of the rearticulation of power."

I know that I'm often guilty of this, especially if I'm writing a late night lab report, and really have no idea what I'm talking about. I have the advantage of having TA's who don't speak English as a native language, so often I try to confuse them with my verbiage and hope they give me a good mark because they can't be bothered to look up all the words to check to see if I actually know what I'm talking about.

My favourite story though, is of Allan Sokal, a physicist who wrote a paper as a joke and submitted it to a social science academic journal. The paper had no content, but was filled with so much jargon and buzzwords that it managed to get fairly good reviews. It was entitled "Transgressing the Boundaries: Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity," and can be found here: http://www.drizzle.com/~jwalsh/sokal/

And for you comp sci kids, ever wanted to get published but didn't want to go through the trouble of actually writing a paper? Look no farther, SCIgen has come to your rescue! It will generate a random academic paper complete with references, graphs, tables, anything you could ask for in a paper. Check it out! http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/

[Kraco]

"The move from a structuralist account in which capital is understood to structure social relations in relatively homologous ways to a view of hegemony in which power relations are subject to repetition, convergence, and rearticulation brought the question of temporality into the thinking of structure, and marked a shift from a form of Althusserian theory that takes structural totalities as theoretical objects to one in which the insights into the contingent possibility of structure inaugurate a renewed conception of hegemony as bound up with the contingent sites and strategies of the rearticulation of power."

No human beings with a statistically normal brain and thought pattern would remember how that sentence began, or what was the idea of the whole thing, when they reach the end (if they manage to reach the end, that is).

It needs to be remembered, though, that only a minority of researchers actually research linguistics or anything related to that like literature and such. The rest study some other, specific subjects and it's not their highest priority to be concerned about the shape and beauty of the language they write. Ideally published articles will aid other researchers / research groups. If an article is very badly written, it fails to deliver the information, and it will be forgotten faster than its more nicely written competitors.

[ChaosK]

ah yes, the first thread revolving around me when i first joined.

[Terracosmo]

ah yes, the first thread revolving around me when i first joined.

Yeah, you were even more annoying back then.



*evil laugh*

[ChaosK]

i like to feel important. You suck terra.

[KitKat]

Hey now, let's try to stay on topic here.

If any of you felt a little overwhelmed by the academic paper generator, there are a lot of smaller variations on that theme. In particular, check out the sloganizer: http://www.sloganizer.net/en/
Just input a name, or any noun, and see how much commercial opportunity you have!
Also, I'm a big fan of Dilbert's mission statement generator: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilber...eer/bin/ms.cgi

Fun for everyone!

[xDarkMaster]

Hey now, let's try to stay on topic here.

If any of you felt a little overwhelmed by the academic paper generator, there are a lot of smaller variations on that theme. In particular, check out the sloganizer: http://www.sloganizer.net/en/

"Naughty little xDarkMaster."

LOL

[Terracosmo]

"Terracosmo - Just like heaven"

LMAO destiny

[IFHTT]

"Ifinghatetonton inside you."

WTF???? That sounds more like porn title than a slogan if you ask me.

[Deblas]

"Deblas- You see this name, you think dirty"......I like these slogans!

[ChaosK]

"for the love of chaoskiddo."

??

[Kraco]

Hey now, let's try to stay on topic here.

If any of you felt a little overwhelmed by the academic paper generator, there are a lot of smaller variations on that theme. In particular, check out the sloganizer: http://www.sloganizer.net/en/

"Kraco nonstop."

Hmm... I wonder if this refers to how I can have so many posts in so little time. Or something totally different...

But this sounds very much like the truth:
"With a name like KitKat, it has to be good."