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    Episode 126 Discussion

    Originally posted by: Jeff_from_MD
    btw, DB's version called the film of bone a "mask?" lol...
    Ya, lets be a jerk about a free service, thats the cool thing to do these days. Its not even that bad, I don't see a reason to bring up this as if the mistake was trivial and stupid.

    I understood the meaning just fine from DBs version just so you know.

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    Episode 126 Discussion

    Yay, another good episode! I agree with Mae in that little Kimi getting mad at the flower was the funniest part of the episode. We got to see little Kimi and little Haku....aw, they're both so cute. Flashbacks were definitely the best part of this episode.

    As for the weird Naruto-in-the-tunnel thing, it's gotta be some sort of genjutsu. I can't recall any time in Naruto in the past where the writers have resorted to abstract metaphorical representations of reality rather than showing what was happening.

    Oh, and I'm not really a fan of Kimi as a dinosaur. It just makes him look kinda ridiculous.

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    Episode 126 Discussion

    Originally posted by: KitKat

    Oh, and I'm not really a fan of Kimi as a dinosaur. It just makes him look kinda ridiculous.
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    who was it that said lvl 2 kimi didnt relly look the same as in the manga?


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    Originally posted by: RaZzy

    Anyway here's the thing i don't get... is kimimaru as old as haku or what?? In the flashback they seem the same age. I thought naruto and haku were sort of the same age, but now kimimaru looks like a grown up..
    I am inclined to believe that Kimi, Haku and Itachi are all about the same age, and Naruto and co a few years younger.

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    RE: Episode 126 Discussion

    Itachi is 17 when he is introduced in the manga. I believe Haku is 15. Kimimaro's age has not been revealed.
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    Episode 126 Discussion

    Originally posted by: KitKat
    As for the weird Naruto-in-the-tunnel thing, it's gotta be some sort of genjutsu. I can't recall any time in Naruto in the past where the writers have resorted to abstract metaphorical representations of reality rather than showing what was happening.
    if thats the case, then what would you call................

    1) the Naruto/Kyubi meeting that took place as Naruto was falling down the pit
    2) all the Naruto/Gaara analagies they had when Naruto discovered Gaara's past
    3) Sasuke throwing a kunai at the image of his former self shortly after the Hokage's death

    err.....those are all i can think of at the moment
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    Hmm....that's a good point Assertn. I'd forgotten about those instances. Alright, perhaps not genjutsu then, but it was still weird and confusing. This show is usually very straightforward, and I was really thrown off by this sequence. Not to say that I don't like symbolism and such, because I do, I think it adds more depth. However, I think they could have done a better job with it rather than making me think Naruto was hallucinating. Who knows, maybe Naruto WAS hallucinating. Maybe the Nine Tails has finally pushed his sanity over the edge. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] I don't really know what to think at this point.

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    if thats the case, then what would you call................

    1) the Naruto/Kyubi meeting that took place as Naruto was falling down the pit
    2) all the Naruto/Gaara analagies they had when Naruto discovered Gaara's past
    3) Sasuke throwing a kunai at the image of his former self shortly after the Hokage's death

    err.....those are all i can think of at the moment[/quote]

    1) It represented what was going on in Naruto's mind as he was plummeting to his death
    2) A flashback for our benefit
    3) An fairly clear illustration of Sasuke's thoughts, not a real event

    Kind of abstract, yeah, but not so much as what was in the last ep, and definately identified as not really happening.

    I think all of the students get at least the basics of the different skills during their training at the academy (remember Sakura countering this illusion during the attack by the Sand), so it wouldn't be all that surprising if Sasuke pulled out an illusion trap in the same way he's suddenly used fire techniques in the past. He probably wouldn't be good enough to trap an experienced ninja, but Naruto running recklessly in the dark shouldn't be a hard target.

    Edit: Ok, ok, I'm wrong... yikes...

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    RE: Episode 126 Discussion

    1) how is that any different than the stuff going on in naruto's mind in this ep?
    2) the correlations between naruto and gaara......like naruto looking in a mirror and seeing gaara's reflection, and whatever else they threw in......did not happen in naruto's past.
    3) same with #1, the intent of the cave scene was to represent naruto's thoughts
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    RE: Episode 126 Discussion

    Wait, people thought all the shit that happened in the cave was a genjutsu?

    Wow, we've hit a new low.

    assertn, just forget about them. Let them overanalyze the situation.
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    Episode 126 Discussion

    *Imagines the mega-skilled GENJUTSU user Sasuke putting up traps in the cave while simultaneously running like hell and laughing*

    Yeah, I mean, logic is sooooo overrated.

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    Episode 126 Discussion

    Wait just a second.

    *KitKat paints a giant target on herself*

    Ok, now I'm ready. You may all continue with the incredulous disbelief and sarcastic remarks. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
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    Oh come on, I think thinking that it was an illusion is a perfectly acceptable conclusion to jump to. The alternative is that Naruto is suffering a psychotic episode for no real reason at all.

    No, thats probably whats happening, but it actually makes LESS sense then "its an illusion".

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    I'll throw my lot in with the people who say it was not a genjutsu... but come on stop acting like little pricks and saying OMG U THOUGHT THAT WAS GENJUTSU ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    RE: Episode 126 Discussion

    I think "OMG U THOUGHT THAT WAS GENJUTSU ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" is a perfectly acceptable response seeing as it is so fucking evident that Sasuke didn't throw a hallucination on him. I mean WHY would he do that? CAN he even do that? Since when can he create that stuff with sharingan? And while he's running simultaneously?!?!?!! Can't you see the damn logic in that then you deserve to get prick responses. I mean, similar things has happened many times throughout the series, such as in Assertn's examples above, and back then nobody questioned it. Why now?

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    RE: Episode 126 Discussion

    ...i thought it WASNT a genjutsu but then again i wuz nevr 1 to acctually take the time to anyalze things over and over again...especially not the parts that make no sense to me...


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    I agree that it's definitely not genjutsu. But I think it's safe to assume everyone is either agreeing with this or agreeing they are wrong [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

    Can we talk about something else now, like...

    If Kimimaro has a skin of bone underneath his skin, how can he move? I mean, wouldn't the bone be rigid?

    That's just an idea.

    Gaara was KICKASS with his handseals (is this the first time we actually see him use some, as opposed to just letting the sand do his work?)

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    RE: Episode 126 Discussion

    he jus created 1 wen garra attacked him then after we saw his bones and stuff which meant his "mask" under his skin was broken, it wuz kinda lik a sheild for 1 attack.


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    he jus created 1 wen garra attacked him then after we saw his bones and stuff which meant his "mask" under his skin was broken, it wuz kinda lik a sheild for 1 attack. i like the idea of gettin off the genjutsu thing too


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