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[RasenDori]

then you may as well stop reading right now, because im pretty certain its a given that its a kyuubi power up. i dont think that jiraiya is reckless enough to teach naruto a dangerous move. if you look at the look on narutos face when jiraiya tells him not to use "that" jutsu, it looks like naruto remembers doing something awful with it. i bet he totally lost control of himself sometime during the training and completely freaked everyone out. dont worry, im sure naruto has a few new moves, but i think the thing that worries jiraiya is kyuubi related.

[Death BOO Z]

my two cents on akatsuki's goal:
I'm guessing that we're gonna see a samurai deeper kyo rip off, the akatsuki gather all the tails in order to complete the revival of the kyubi, and then we suddenly have a flashback to the last time kyubi was around, and we see the 4th talking to himself that someday naruto will have to fight against his destiney to become the kyubi... yada yada yada..

'that' jutsu better involve calling the kyubi using Sakura as the host...

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: RasenDori
then you may as well stop reading right now, because im pretty certain its a given that its a kyuubi power up. i dont think that jiraiya is reckless enough to teach naruto a dangerous move. if you look at the look on narutos face when jiraiya tells him not to use "that" jutsu, it looks like naruto remembers doing something awful with it. i bet he totally lost control of himself sometime during the training and completely freaked everyone out. dont worry, im sure naruto has a few new moves, but i think the thing that worries jiraiya is kyuubi related.

its a jutsu not a power up. it might have something to do with kyuubi's chakra but what doesnt when it comes to naruto? a simple kyuubi power up is just lame and boring and i think kishimoto got brains enough to know that.

in response to BOO Z, its simple to "revive" kyuubi, break the seal on naruto. if they need 8 demons to do that they sure are overestimating narutos power. akatsukis goals are probably something along world dominance or total control of the ninja world. they are all missing nins that supposedly dont like their respective village, they probably want to take over or destroy them.

[Hakeem_21]

I really hope that doesnt happen but in Naruto it just might happen.

[Y]

Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya


in response to BOO Z, its simple to "revive" kyuubi, break the seal on naruto. if they need 8 demons to do that they sure are overestimating narutos power. akatsukis goals are probably something along world dominance or total control of the ninja world. they are all missing nins that supposedly dont like their respective village, they probably want to take over or destroy them.

Ok, third time. What makes you think the Akatsuki would even need any of the demons to take total control of the world? Orochimaru managed to scrape together enough resources to launch an invasion of Konoha that almost succeeded. The Akatsuki has nine members who are all incredibly dangerous criminals; it might even have more members as strong as Itachi, and he murdered his whole clan. If 1 member can murder a whole clan (as a teenager) then SURELY all nine of them can murder a small hidden village's leaders and take control of its resources, and even a small village combined with the Akatsuki would allow them to dominate the world. Hell, if all 9 of them attacked Konoha during the reconstruction period (or the period where there was no Hokage) they probably would have annihilated the village.

So why go through the trouble and wait years and years to reach a goal they could have already gotten?

[Hakeem_21]

There are many hidden villages and countries in Naruto and no matter how strong akatsuki are they cant controll the world with only their skills and a small village. If there was a war then akatsuki doesnt have a chance agaianst thousand of opponents.

But if you have 9 demons who each are almost invinceble then you might controll the world.

[Y]

Originally posted by: Hakeem_21
There are many hidden villages and countries in Naruto and no matter how strong akatsuki are they cant controll the world with only their skills and a small village. If there was a war then akatsuki doesnt have a chance agaianst thousand of opponents.

Yes they do.

Konoha's Jounin were all out on missions during the reconstruction. The Akatsuki could have easily captured Konoha during that time - or during the period prior since they had no Hokage. The only real threat is Jiraiya so I guess Itachi would just have to use the Mangekyou Sharingan and kill him. Remember - we see most Konoha defense ninjas getting killed in one hit with kunai during the invasion. Most of the Akatsuki members we have seen have giant area effect attacks that could kill hundreds of ninjas in 1 strike, like the clay bombs or Sasori's giant tail swipes. The Rookie Nine are the most talented Genin there and I don't think I have to describe how badly an encounter with them vs. an Akatsuki member would go. The rest are just cannon fodder who probably wouldn't even resist an invasion by nine of the most powerful people on Earth. They're ninjas. Most of them aren't free thinkers, they'll take orders from leaders no matter who they are.

The Sand was similarly depleted at this time. After gaining control of Konoha and getting the civilian populace and remaining ninjas formed into a makeshift military, beating the Sand would be easy as hell. Gaara had to save the fuckin' village from one Akatsuki member. Nine of them plus a small Konoha army? Owned. The rest of the villages' relative fighting powers can be seen in how little they participated in the Chuunin Exam. No other country was remotely as powerful as Konoha, and Konoha's a cripple now.

The Akatsuki could gain world power without the demons. Easily.

[Mut]

To back up what Y said... Itachi wasn't even a teenager at the time. He was 12! TWELVE MUTHAFUCKA. Like I said, I have no doubt the Akatsuki can kill off an entire village and even a country by themselves.

[jing]

Claybomb akatsuki could have taken sand by himself.

[Y]

You're right Mut, I just keep putting Itachi at 13 for some reason.

jing, the real trick would be to murder enough people to get the country to submit but leave their military forces intact. Laying waste to the village is neat and all but I assume the Akatsuki would want to rule something besides smoldering piles of rubble in this scenario.

They could just start killing village leaders. Or, honestly, just show up and declare themselves the rulers of Konoha. Who the fuck is gonna challenge all nine of them?

[PSJ]

didnt itachi become anbu leader at 14? so its impossible that he killed his clan when he was 12.

other than that you're probably right about the akatsuki, if these guys are at itachis level. if all of the rest are like kisame it will be much easier for konoha to take them out, kisame had trouble with kakashi who is indeed a powerful ninja but there are more at his level. bring out tsunade, jiraiya and some high jounins and this fight isnt as easy anymore.

[Hellraiser]

Not that it matters since you're right, but I think he was ANBU captain at 13.

[Elessar]

The want the demons as sparring-partners, because they can't find suitable strong opponents any more.... *hihi*

[Assertn]

if you're gonna ask why the akatsuki want the demons, you might as well ask why orochimaru wants all the jutsus of the world

relevasius: you should've realized that naruto is going to do more and more with the kyubi power ups as the series progresses way back when he first used it on haku.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
didnt itachi become anbu leader at 14? so its impossible that he killed his clan when he was 12.

Itachi massacred his clan at 12. Trust me.

[XTCBoY2K]

Itachi became ANBU squad leader at 13.

[relevasius]

I know that naruto will use more and more of the kyubi, and I'm not really against it, It's just that I find it hard to believe that after being alone with Jiraiya for 3 years that he hasn't learned some solid jutsus, and for "that jutsu" to be a kyubi powerup would be a waste of a time-jump. What kind of character development is that? Last time we left off he was doing kyubi powerups and now three years down the line that's still his trump card. Will he use the kyubi's chakra, probably. Will it be a power up, like shooting chakra arms, I hope not. It's about time we get to see Naruto as a great ninja without relying on the kyubi cause it'll cheapen everything about Jiraiya as a teacher.

[Assertn]

if naruto was training for over 2 years, and jiraiya expects him to confront akatsukis while refraining from using "that jutsu", then im sure that means he has other great moves he can perform instead. Just that one page in the manga of naruto in the bell rematch was proof enough to me

[JusDaMan]

yea... itachi became anbu at age 13.. chapter 142 page 12.

in other news... I bet naruto's new move is a ULTRA HENGE! ability to copy not only the person/object. but the memory, powers, and weaknesses also! AHAHHAHAHA similar to that copy guy from yu yu hakusho!

[Hakeem_21]

Originally posted by: Y The Alien

Originally posted by: Hakeem_21
There are many hidden villages and countries in Naruto and no matter how strong akatsuki are they cant controll the world with only their skills and a small village. If there was a war then akatsuki doesnt have a chance agaianst thousand of opponents.

Yes they do.

Konoha's Jounin were all out on missions during the reconstruction. The Akatsuki could have easily captured Konoha during that time - or during the period prior since they had no Hokage. The only real threat is Jiraiya so I guess Itachi would just have to use the Mangekyou Sharingan and kill him. Remember - we see most Konoha defense ninjas getting killed in one hit with kunai during the invasion. Most of the Akatsuki members we have seen have giant area effect attacks that could kill hundreds of ninjas in 1 strike, like the clay bombs or Sasori's giant tail swipes. The Rookie Nine are the most talented Genin there and I don't think I have to describe how badly an encounter with them vs. an Akatsuki member would go. The rest are just cannon fodder who probably wouldn't even resist an invasion by nine of the most powerful people on Earth. They're ninjas. Most of them aren't free thinkers, they'll take orders from leaders no matter who they are.

The Sand was similarly depleted at this time. After gaining control of Konoha and getting the civilian populace and remaining ninjas formed into a makeshift military, beating the Sand would be easy as hell. Gaara had to save the fuckin' village from one Akatsuki member. Nine of them plus a small Konoha army? Owned. The rest of the villages' relative fighting powers can be seen in how little they participated in the Chuunin Exam. No other country was remotely as powerful as Konoha, and Konoha's a cripple now.

The Akatsuki could gain world power without the demons. Easily.

They cant do anything if every hidden village and country goes together and attack Akatsuki how are they gonna protect and fight against so many villages when they have had problems getting Naruto and Gaara....

Also who says that only konoha have legendary ninjas. Let say there is one jiraya in every village that would take care of the akatsuki problem.

I mean Diedra is one of them and she didnt exacly crush Gaara and there are many ninjas stronger than him.

Also there is no way that Jiraya a legendary ninja would lose just cause of the mangekeyou Sharingan, if that was the case then Itachi could grab Naruto anytime he wants. Not say to Kisame that they wouldn't be sure to survive if they fought Jiraya.


We will se soon why they want the demons and if they want them to take over the world then we know that they cant take over the world easily as you said without the demons.