Assertn, seriously, if you want to be technical I will.
I don't read manga, so technically I know of no filler, but lets say this, if all this stuff is in the manga, then I DO NOT LIKE THE SHOW ANY LONGER, CAUSE THE MANGA GOT TOO BORING BETWEEN MAIN EVENTS, AND I HAD NO INTEREST IN IN USELESS STORY THAT WAS NOT INTERESTING TO ME. SINCE THE SHOW IS BASED ON MANGA, THAT MEANS I DO NOT LIKE THE ANIME ANY LONGER.
Are we happy now?
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well if you never read the manga, then i dont know how you can judge it, but if you're gonna use that as your excuse, then you're no longer contributing to this thread whatsoever [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Niether are you, you're spewing useless stuff. I told you the reason I don't like the show no more, too bad if you don't agree or like my reason. My post above was intended to be my last, but since we that you like making useless post, ill jump the band wagon, although im lazy and this is mine. I'll just talk to you on IRC.
As for me not being able to judge the manga, make up your mind. You tell me it's not "real" filler since it's in the manga, that would imply if I find the anime boring, I find the manga boring, or you're lying, take your pick. For once quit making post on technicalities, and trying to act like Albert Einstien. I'll admit you're smarter then me, hell you're in college/university and im in high school, but for your posts above, they're twisted and stupid. You're trying to play a game of semantics. Instead of trying to catch me on everything I say, quit making your useless posts (as I am aswell), and let someone who according to you"contribute" to the thread.
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Wow, you avoid entire anime series and mangas just because they may have some vague reference to the underworld? Thats really really dumb. Honestly what are you afraid is going to happen to you? Will you be damned into hell just because you saw something that was vaguely demonic?4.) Underworld isn't vague, it when things of hell are incorperated with the anime, which ,1 I think takes away from the story, cause I personally don't like any kind "horror" or "demonic" things in a show, and 2, I am a christian so i try to steer clear when i feel things go to far (yes that means I barely watch any anime).
I'm Jewish but that dosen't mean I'm going to abstain from any form of media that involves a German or Egyption references just because of the not so pleasent history that's involved.
What's dumb is your lack of respect for Joker's beliefs. You may not agree with them but you've no right to insult them.Originally posted by: LobsterMagnet
Wow, you avoid entire anime series and mangas just because they may have some vague reference to the underworld? Thats really really dumb. Honestly what are you afraid is going to happen to you? Will you be damned into hell just because you saw something that was vaguely demonic?
arguments are the only times that the forum is fun anyways...you just want me to stop talking without defending myself from your first 2 sentences in this post. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]Originally posted by: joker-kun
As for me not being able to judge the manga, make up your mind. You tell me it's not "real" filler since it's in the manga, that would imply if I find the anime boring, I find the manga boring, or you're lying, take your pick. For once quit making post on technicalities, and trying to act like Albert Einstien. I'll admit you're smarter then me, hell you're in college/university and im in high school, but for your posts above, they're twisted and stupid. You're trying to play a game of semantics. Instead of trying to catch me on everything I say, quit making your useless posts (as I am aswell), and let someone who according to you"contribute" to the thread.
I'm not lying, because you already told all of us in IRC that you never read the manga. Also, the stuff that you consider filler is in the anime, not in the manga. The logic you're using, if put to formulas, would sound like "if A=B+C, then A=B"
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I've got nothing against Joke Kuns beliefs, I just don't like how he uses them as a scapegoat. If you can find me the verse in the bible where it specifically states that if one should see images that are vaguely satanic or demonic they shall be punished. Then I'll give him a formal apology.What's dumb is your lack of respect for Joker's beliefs. You may not agree with them but you've no right to insult them.
You've got nothing against Joker's beliefs yet you call the practice of said belief "really really dumb." If demonic imagery (real or percieved) is reason enough for Joker to avoid a series then you need to respect that rather than scoffing.Originally posted by: LobsterMagnet
I've got nothing against Joke Kuns beliefs, I just don't like how he uses them as a scapegoat. If you can find me the verse in the bible where it specifically states that if one should see images that are vaguely satanic or demonic they shall be punished. Then I'll give him a formal apology.What's dumb is your lack of respect for Joker's beliefs. You may not agree with them but you've no right to insult them.
As for somehow "validating" J-kun's beliefs with passages from the bible, I hardly think it necessary but if he wishes to do so that's entirely up to him. I'll be damned if I'm hunting for some obscure passage.
Now this thread needs to get BACK on topic.
Exactly. Although it's fun and cool to watch, is used to be much more than that. It was original, it had meaning, it was artistic and expressive. Lately it just seems it's becoming the new Dragonball Z. FIHGT FIGHT FIGHT! MOVIES EVERYWHERE! VIDEO GAMES AND MERCHANDISE!!Originally posted by: Y The Alien
The direction it has currently taken.
It's better than DBZ, but before I wasn't able to put it in the same class and compare Naruto to Dragonball Z. Now I can.
I'm sorry Captain Grammar agreeing with me is a bannable offense. See you.
It was also when it pulled a Berserk and went all "underworld".
4.) Underworld isn't vague, it when things of hell are incorperated with the anime, which ,1 I think takes away from the story, cause I personally don't like any kind "horror" or "demonic" things in a show, and 2, I am a christian so i try to steer clear when i feel things go to far (yes that means I barely watch any anime).
Things to look for there are "all underworld", and "things I feel go to far". I am not an extremist if that's the impression I gave. As for bible verse, things don't always need to be in the bible for someone to do something for themselve. For example, some people who struggle with pronography, cut themselves totally from the internet, to prevent them from going on porno sites. That is extreme to some, but as long as it helps that person do what they're trying to stop, and it doesn't affect the lives of others, then it's all good. As for the verse, there is one that could go along with what im saying, and that would be (not quoted word for word) "avoid the appearence of evil".
Now remember, I said things I feel go to far. I watched Scrapped princess, which had many things that could have been based on something of the bible, I felt for me, it didn't go too far. Now something like Berserk (and yes I know episode 1 forshadowed the later eps, and it was intended to be a "dark" anime.), that had demons, in the manga witches, and is heavily based on that for the show to be the show it is, then I feel that goes too far. I am not trying to say what's right and wrong, I am simply trying to say what I feel a cut off point is for me. I currently watch One Piece, that has the "devils fruit", now I could have cut the show off from ep 1 when i first heard that, but now that i watch it, although the devil's fruit are a huge part of the storyline, it really only means a fruit that gives supernatural power, that I don't feel is a big deal at all. Also you must keep in mind, I didn't say that was the sole reason I gave up Naruto, even though they were miniscule and stupid too many, I gave I think 4. That merely contributed to me making my final decision to stop from watching the show further. I would say I barely watch anime any more, more due to the fact that most are repetitive, not that they have some kind of link to hell. Also, no I don't feel I will damned to hell for watching a show, a murderer who kills someone isn't damned to hell for killing that person.
As for what the topic is truly about, in more ways then one, wether that be filler, the show becoming boring, it going to far in my opinion, let's just say it took far too many turns in the direction I didn't like it.
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that totally made you sound like a non-conformist wannabeOriginally posted by: Captain Grammar
Exactly. Although it's fun and cool to watch, is used to be much more than that. It was original, it had meaning, it was artistic and expressive. Lately it just seems it's becoming the new Dragonball Z. FIHGT FIGHT FIGHT! MOVIES EVERYWHERE! VIDEO GAMES AND MERCHANDISE!!Originally posted by: Y The Alien
The direction it has currently taken.
It's better than DBZ, but before I wasn't able to put it in the same class and compare Naruto to Dragonball Z. Now I can.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
that totally made you sound like a non-conformist wannabeOriginally posted by: Captain Grammar
Exactly. Although it's fun and cool to watch, is used to be much more than that. It was original, it had meaning, it was artistic and expressive. Lately it just seems it's becoming the new Dragonball Z. FIHGT FIGHT FIGHT! MOVIES EVERYWHERE! VIDEO GAMES AND MERCHANDISE!!Originally posted by: Y The Alien
The direction it has currently taken.
It's better than DBZ, but before I wasn't able to put it in the same class and compare Naruto to Dragonball Z. Now I can.
Haha! What ever you want to call it. That's just how I feel about the series. It's really cool, I get a lot of laughs watching it and I enjoy watching it. However, I also enjoy watching DBZ.
When I first started watching Naruto and up until the end of the Zabuza arc, I was amazed by the series; a very modern spin on ninjas. It was completely original and endless possibilities. Now, however, it's just a bunch of one-on-one battle with "ninjas" coming out with unbelieve techniques. But, of course, everything is explained by one word; "Chakra."
I'm not in anyway saying the series sucks. I like it. It's cool. It just used to be more.
The way the series is going now is good, but the Zabuza arc was very different compared to this. It was more "real" at points and everyone wasn't super powerfull. I think that's how everyone got sucked in to naruto. Cause we're always used to the main character controlling his fate but in the Zabuza arc he depended on Kakashi and Sasuke. Right now the show is good, but they could have stuck with the way things were going with the Zabuza arc for a little longer before Naruto had to bust out the Kyubi and save the day. IMO that should've been much later. Like.......the first time it should have been would be against Sasuke coming up in the anime. Again, they didn't have to do the Rasengan vs. Chidori on the rooftop of the hospital. AND ESPECIALLY IN THE HOMO-FILLER WTF WERE THEY THINKING? So to me Rasengan + Chidori is like Spirit gun in Yu-Yu Hakusho...or dare I say it.....KAMEHAMEHA from yea you know. But atleast in Yu-Yu they did many variations of a move, instead of Kyubi SUPER CHARGED.
Ok ok, well I got off track there but what I was originally going to say was that if they stuck with Zabuza like character/art/plot they could have gone places but they decided to aim at a younger audience causing much dissapointment in fans on the internet. But honestly the show is no longer aimed at people who do not enjoy this type of Naruto, so please just stop fucking posting on Naruto forums about how much you hate the show...rabble rabble rabble....because you are seriously ruining my enjoyment of a great show.
Meh.....hope everyone reads that long as post.
Sounds like everyone who claims to be losing interest in the seriesbecause of the current lowsy pacing of the Sasuke in barrel arc. I do agree that the wonderfully convient 1 on 1 fights cheapen the story line. I can practically see American Marketers creating commercials encouraging little kids to go and buy two separate action figures so they can renact the 1 on 1 battles.
All of this powering up and cursed seal crap is leading up to a nice climax. The Naruto vs. Sasuke round 2 fight has huge repercussions on both the character development and overall narrative. We still haven't quite seen the full consequences but rest assured it will defintly add a tremendous amount of emotional weight to later scenes in the series.
I'm also curious about why everyone praises the zambuza arc as the best in the series? It was good and worked well as an introductionary piece but does no one think that the bridge battle was a little too drawn out? I mean if your going to scrutnize the current fights with the sound 4 you could easily apply those same criticisms to the fight with Zambuza.
"Hahaha I've figured out the secret of the sharingan now it is time for me to end this."
"No you haven't, and now it is time for me to end this."
"No I am going to end this in one move."
"Now I shall end it with this next move"
First of all who the hell is "zambuza"?Originally posted by: LobsterMagnet
Sounds like everyone who claims to be losing interest in the seriesbecause of the current lowsy pacing of the Sasuke in barrel arc. I do agree that the wonderfully convient 1 on 1 fights cheapen the story line. I can practically see American Marketers creating commercials encouraging little kids to go and buy two separate action figures so they can renact the 1 on 1 battles.
All of this powering up and cursed seal crap is leading up to a nice climax. The Naruto vs. Sasuke round 2 fight has huge repercussions on both the character development and overall narrative. We still haven't quite seen the full consequences but rest assured it will defintly add a tremendous amount of emotional weight to later scenes in the series.
I'm also curious about why everyone praises the zambuza arc as the best in the series? It was good and worked well as an introductionary piece but does no one think that the bridge battle was a little too drawn out? I mean if your going to scrutnize the current fights with the sound 4 you could easily apply those same criticisms to the fight with Zambuza.
"Hahaha I've figured out the secret of the sharingan now it is time for me to end this."
"No you haven't, and now it is time for me to end this."
"No I am going to end this in one move."
"Now I shall end it with this next move"
IMO, the reason everyone liked the Zabuza arc was because:
look up
but the Zabuza arc was very different compared to this. It was more "real" at points and everyone wasn't super powerfull. I think that's how everyone got sucked in to naruto. Cause we're always used to the main character controlling his fate but in the Zabuza arc he depended on Kakashi and Sasuke.
Don't most long running anime series start out that way? With the main characters being very weak at the beginning but as the series progresses they become stronger and stronger. In some ways half the fun is seeing the characters grow and become more powerful as the series progresses just like in a console RPG.
I'm sure there is a subset of people who are entertained by powerups in shounen anime. Just like I'm sure there are people who are really entertained when they get bigger numbers in "RPGs" of that fashion.
I'm just not one of them.
So would you prefer that everyone remain weak the whole series and Naruto never become Hokage? Cause that would defeat the whole purpose of the series. Getting stronger is everyones goal almost in Naruto, isnt that how it is in most Action Animes? Everyone wants to become the strongest. So they eventually have to get stronger or just die lol.
hurrr power ups are the point hurrrOriginally posted by: Dezalanel
So would you prefer that everyone remain weak the whole series and Naruto never become Hokage? Cause that would defeat the whole purpose of the series. Getting stronger is everyones goal almost in Naruto, isnt that how it is in most Action Animes? Everyone wants to become the strongest. So they eventually have to get stronger or just die lol.
Shut up.
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