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[Crows_Kill]

My .02-

I think the debate over the length/challange of the gara/deidra fight is pointless- just like the gara smiling thing. If he's smiling, we'll find out. But i seriously doubt he is. Its a crack in his armor- go look at the chaptersfrom the chunin exam fight with lee or the fight with naruto at the end of the arc. The artist makes no attempt at being consistant in how he draws the cracks in the armor- aside from being a real pain to try to keep track of and draw, it has no bearing on the story- if the cracks were important, we would know because they would be highlighted or shown in detail.

The fight was good- it ran about how I expected it to go. I think gara actually did alot better than I expcected- his main weekness was that he was acting like a kage, not as the living weapon he was earlier in the series. At first everyone was saying "theres no way gara can/should win" to "i cant believe he lost that quick!". They have gone out of their way several times to specificaly emphasive the fact that the atsuki members are incredably strong- sanin strong, kage strong, or better. Why? no one knows, but they are the strongest guys introduced so far, unless you think jirai, kakashi, oro, itachi, and others are somewhow lying about their strength.

On the scorpion guy, aside from the name, I don't think he's very scorpion like. The "tail" he has is either a puppet like sidne said above, or my take on it is that it is a multi-sectional sword that can be used like a whip or tentacle- see the blades from tenjo tenge or bleach and you'll see what I mean (the mangas, not the animes).

Anyway, I really looking forward to the nest story arc- I'm sure we'll get to see the new team kakashi realy cut loose. I have a suspicion that kakashi has been holding back on his abilities when he was training them, and now that they are "equals" on the team, we'll see much more of what he can really do. As long as atsuki doesnt get their hands on the next "come come" chapters. .

[hiten mitsurugi]

Hahahaha, Gaara smiling was funny. LOL . . . if Gaara actually smiled it would be scary. I mean Deidara would have died from shock, instant KO. Seriously, Gaara never smiles, so like the only time he does is when he gets his ass whooped. LOL.

(hint: sarcasm)

[Kagemane_no_Jutsu]

Originally posted by: Crows_Kill
My .02-

I think the debate over the length/challange of the gara/deidra fight is pointless- just like the gara smiling thing. If he's smiling, we'll find out. But i seriously doubt he is. Its a crack in his armor- go look at the chaptersfrom the chunin exam fight with lee or the fight with naruto at the end of the arc. The artist makes no attempt at being consistant in how he draws the cracks in the armor- aside from being a real pain to try to keep track of and draw, it has no bearing on the story- if the cracks were important, we would know because they would be highlighted or shown in detail.

The fight was good- it ran about how I expected it to go. I think gara actually did alot better than I expcected- his main weekness was that he was acting like a kage, not as the living weapon he was earlier in the series. At first everyone was saying "theres no way gara can/should win" to "i cant believe he lost that quick!". They have gone out of their way several times to specificaly emphasive the fact that the atsuki members are incredably strong- sanin strong, kage strong, or better. Why? no one knows, but they are the strongest guys introduced so far, unless you think jirai, kakashi, oro, itachi, and others are somewhow lying about their strength.

On the scorpion guy, aside from the name, I don't think he's very scorpion like. The "tail" he has is either a puppet like sidne said above, or my take on it is that it is a multi-sectional sword that can be used like a whip or tentacle- see the blades from tenjo tenge or bleach and you'll see what I mean (the mangas, not the animes).

Anyway, I really looking forward to the nest story arc- I'm sure we'll get to see the new team kakashi realy cut loose. I have a suspicion that kakashi has been holding back on his abilities when he was training them, and now that they are "equals" on the team, we'll see much more of what he can really do. As long as atsuki doesnt get their hands on the next "come come" chapters. .

most intelligent post ive seen on this forum in a while.

[Terracosmo]

*looks at page 7 and laughs at the thought of Gaara smiling*

okay I know it's late, but wtf

Akatsuki: omg we got you and we almost destroyed your town and everyone you wanna protect
Gaara: LOL (smiles)

[greateachermin]

more kakashi action would be very satisfying
we havent seen jiraya full strength
or kakashi's full strength

[jing]

Originally posted by: greateachermin
more kakashi action would be very satisfying
we havent seen jiraya full strength
or kakashi's full strength

What exactly is full strength in this series.

[drcitan]

As always I liked this chapter along with all the others Kishimoto spits out. Finally gonna get to see Team 7(without Sasuke) take on another village. If Kankuro does'nt get spanked, which I think he won't because Baki is gonna come in and support him knowing he wasn't gonna follow his orders, maybe he will join Team 7. SHOW ME SASUKE ALREADY.

[Hakeem_21]

Originally posted by: jing

Originally posted by: greateachermin
more kakashi action would be very satisfying
we havent seen jiraya full strength
or kakashi's full strength

What exactly is full strength in this series.

Fighting serious?



Edit:
Yeah Kakashi have tried fighting serious but Itachi was just to good for him but Jiraya haven't since he was drugged against Oro and didn't do anything against Itachi and Kisama cause they fled.

Also Kakashi cant have given 100% agianst Zabuza cause he crushed him when he became serious.

[Raven]

Kakashi has, fighting Itachi. Although he was trying to protect people at the same time.

And I'm pretty sure he would have been giving 100% against Zabuza, although that was a while ago and he's probably progressed a fair bit since.

[Crows_Kill]

I think kakashi realy held back when he was the leader/teacher/trainer of the original team 7. Whats the point in him going out and killing off all of the enemies the group fought before the kids had a chance to learn anything? I think the whole training period reflects the ninja training method they use- give a kid a power, toss him in a fight or dozen- if he lives, he's a ninja, if he dies, next class. Its brutal, but all the villages seem to follow this method.

I think all the jounins were holding back in most of their fights when on screen- they key phrase being "when on screen" (or on oage if you want to get technical). How many fights did we see that we felt jipped on cause all we saw was the intro and resolution, like the baki/asuma (not sure of name here- the tooth pick guy) fight or the jounin sound 4 fight, where all the action takes place off the page. I think that was intentional- build up suspense for when they do decide to show the full on jounin on jounin action.

They do show us the kage/oro fight, but it is so overblown and the ending so drawn out that it detracts from the overall skill displayed by the fighters- they are awesome and throw around earth shattering abilities, but we feel disapointed cause the resolution dragged on. Again, I feel that was 100% intended to make us feel that way. Makes us crave a full on fight that much more. The sanin fight was the same- all three of them were crippled in some way, with only their subbordinates fightng to the best of their ability- and the sanins still tore up the country side like goku drunk on a full moon. I loved it, but you can't help but feel that it would have been better had they all been at full strength.

I think thats what we have to look forward to next- the main characters really being challanged, not in a semi-staged tournament or when they have a major handicape for whatever reason, but balls to the wall lay it on the line fights. I think this is where we start to see naruto really start to shake off alot of the dbz comparisons, as it will begin to show the characters fighting truly intellegently and seriously- non of this im gonna hold 3/4 of my best moves in reserve cause I want the challange crap.

At least i hope thathow it plays out. But with all the set up and forshadowing theyve set up so far, I forsee great things ahead.

One previous poster (sorry- cant recall you name and im too lazy to re-read all the previous posts) said it feels like the series is just now getting started- all the prelimenaries are out of the way and the motivations and character development locked in place. Now the real story can start. I'm looking forward to the next 250 chapters.

[Sidnne]

I think kakashi realy held back when he was the leader/teacher/trainer of the original team 7. Whats the point in him going out and killing off all of the enemies the group fought before the kids had a chance to learn anything?

Sasuke would have been killed if Haku wanted him dead. They can't learn anything if they are dead, so what's the point in holding back if your students die.

Kakashi was not holding anything back agaisnt Zabuza, he even used Chidori then and he had no chakra left to do anything other than bluff with a kage-bunshin when Gato and his goons showed up.

[dragon608608]

Originally posted by: Sidnne

I think kakashi realy held back when he was the leader/teacher/trainer of the original team 7. Whats the point in him going out and killing off all of the enemies the group fought before the kids had a chance to learn anything?

Sasuke would have been killed if Haku wanted him dead. They can't learn anything if they are dead, so what's the point in holding back if your students die.

Kakashi was not holding anything back agaisnt Zabuza, he even used Chidori then and he had no chakra left to do anything other than bluff with a kage-bunshin when Gato and his goons showed up.

I agree. They can't learn anything as they dead. However, i also think that Kakashi believe in them and let them fight Haku. He did think about get them out of the fight, but unable to. Unforturnaly, Kakashi only decide to end the battle with Zabuza when he sense the charka of the nine tail from Naruto, that is when i think he let it all out. Before that, he kinda held back a little to save the charka as much as possible because the sharingan use up lot of charka. Crows_Kill and Sidnne, I think you both half right and half wrong.

[greateachermin]

if you dont know what full strength is... then what have you been watching?
oro/third hokage... full strength
kakashi/zabuzza... not because kakashi wasnt injured or fougth desparately for his life..
naruto... all of his fight test his limit
neji/sound or naruto... full strength....
granny tsunade/oro... full stength... because jiraya said so

[nests]

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[Kagemane_no_Jutsu]

Originally posted by: nests
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[jing]

Originally posted by: greateachermin
if you dont know what full strength is... then what have you been watching?
oro/third hokage... full strength
kakashi/zabuzza... not because kakashi wasnt injured or fougth desparately for his life..
naruto... all of his fight test his limit
neji/sound or naruto... full strength....
granny tsunade/oro... full stength... because jiraya said so

It just seems like whoever can kawarimi every attack is full strength. because thats the god move isnt it?

[Franggio]

Originally posted by: drcitan
As always I liked this chapter along with all the others Kishimoto spits out. Finally gonna get to see Team 7(without Sasuke) take on another village. If Kankuro does'nt get spanked, which I think he won't because Baki is gonna come in and support him knowing he wasn't gonna follow his orders, maybe he will join Team 7. SHOW ME SASUKE ALREADY.

for reall, enough with this Sasuke crap, it would be good for the series if he died, and thats my sincere oppinion.
He was worthless to start with and will die worthless

[drcitan]

Originally posted by: Franggio

Originally posted by: drcitan
As always I liked this chapter along with all the others Kishimoto spits out. Finally gonna get to see Team 7(without Sasuke) take on another village. If Kankuro does'nt get spanked, which I think he won't because Baki is gonna come in and support him knowing he wasn't gonna follow his orders, maybe he will join Team 7. SHOW ME SASUKE ALREADY.

for reall, enough with this Sasuke crap, it would be good for the series if he died, and thats my sincere oppinion.
He was worthless to start with and will die worthless

You really mean to tell me you don't enjoy watching him fight.

[greateachermin]

i wouldnt go that far as to kill off sasuke...
he is a good anti-protagonist for naruto to fight with.... if he dies then we just have to face another season fighting with oro....
he's kinda like the Vegeta of dragonball, only vegete went from bad to good, sasuke went from good to bad... i wonder how it will play out in the end

[Insomniac]

in terms of the Oro vs 3rd fight i wouldnt say Oro was going full strength not until he was getting his body pulled out, if you watch his expressions they're pretty much 'is that all you've got old man?' for the entire fight

back onto topic about the chapter, is it just me or does Kisame seem really out of place in the Atasuki? unless hes got some transformation with his sword or something then hes the weakest we've seen, Itachi must be annoyed that hes stuck babysitting.