Nope, not happening.Originally posted by: kaigan
gaara pretends to be captured so they can fight somewhere else since he doesn't want to harm the village.
naruto will arrive in time and fight along with gaara *i hope*
Nope, not happening.Originally posted by: kaigan
gaara pretends to be captured so they can fight somewhere else since he doesn't want to harm the village.
naruto will arrive in time and fight along with gaara *i hope*
You know that.......Gaara without homefield advantage = shooting practice for akatsuki.Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
Dammit. I guess he lost. Not that it means anything at all, but I'll console myself with believing that if this fight had happened away from the village, Gaara would've won. Also, if the other so-called jounin weren't so useless, that stupid bomb would've been a non- issue. I mean come on, it should be suicide soloing an entire village of ninja, even for akatsuki memebers. Wtf was everyone else doing (yeah, watching, I know).
Like Naruto's Kyubi, Shikaku needs Gaara to live. If Gaara dies, so does he. So, let's just say if Gaara is rendered unconscious because his mind and body shut down, the demon who feeds off of his life force is likewise rendered unconscious (or disabled). When Gaara is merely sleeping, his mind and body are still fully funtional and capable of fighting, however, Gaara's will is not there to hold the demon back.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
well now actually.....JusDaMan, despite his previously nonsensical post, poses an interesting argument.Originally posted by: Eurasian
there's a difference between sleep and being unconscious.Originally posted by: JusDaMan
But if garra is asleep... wouldnt shukaku take over?
what really is a coma other than just a really long sleep?
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You know that.......Gaara without homefield advantage = shooting practice for akatsuki.[/quote]
Nah. In the fight vs. Kimimaro, he said it takes no effort at all for him to make sand from dirt, so, its kinda like he has "homefield advantage" wherever there's dirt. Desert, forest, anywhere not urban. And, at least against that particular akatsuki member, I don't think he would've lost in any situation other than one in which he was forced to sacrifice himself for others.
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Gaara would've lost anyway. That's just the way story goes.Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
Nah. In the fight vs. Kimimaro, he said it takes no effort at all for him to make sand from dirt, so, its kinda like he has "homefield advantage" wherever there's dirt. Desert, forest, anywhere not urban. And, at least against that particular akatsuki member, I don't think he would've lost in any situation other than one in which he was forced to sacrifice himself for others.
Anyway, If you bring in the "oh, he had to save those villagers" excuse, I'm gonna have to say that the Akatsuki member was at a bigger disadvantage, not Gaara. All those villagers could've attacked and distracted bird bitch and Gaara could've went in for a hit. Gaara isn't a smart fighter, he's more of the "I'm gonna go all out with my power and crush you" type. Gaara is talented but he is just an extremely poor strategist.
sounds like someone went on a trip to their local BS marketOriginally posted by: Captain Grammar
Like Naruto's Kyubi, Shikaku needs Gaara to live. If Gaara dies, so does he. So, let's just say if Gaara is rendered unconscious because his mind and body shut down, the demon who feeds off of his life force is likewise rendered unconscious (or disabled). When Gaara is merely sleeping, his mind and body are still fully funtional and capable of fighting, however, Gaara's will is not there to hold the demon back.
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Gaara would've lost anyway. That's just the way story goes.
Anyway, If you bring in the "oh, he had to save those villagers" excuse, I'm gonna have to say that the Akatsuki member was at a bigger disadvantage, not Gaara. All those villagers could've attacked and distracted bird bitch and Gaara could've went in for a hit. Gaara isn't a smart fighter, he's more of the "I'm gonna go all out with my power and crush you" type. Gaara is talented but he is just an extremely poor strategist.[/quote]
On the basis of skill and power, gaara seems to have owned that akatsuki character. There's just no doubt about it from where I stand. And he was smart enough to look out the window and realize that those "birds" didn't exist in the desert. I really can't argue about his strategic ability though, he's never had to use much of it. And yes, the story required him to lose, but, I'm gonna go ahead and say he lost in that particular way to that particular character, because given what was shown, no other way is believable. About the villagers being a bunch of useless, needy vaginas, well, you've nailed that one. The akatsuki member really should've been a disadvange. So, in actuality, I don't even find this defeat of gaara to be believable. He shouldn't have lost, at all.
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
- Inquisitor Czevak
Yeah, totally. Good one.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
sounds like someone went on a trip to their local BS marketOriginally posted by: Captain Grammar
Like Naruto's Kyubi, Shikaku needs Gaara to live. If Gaara dies, so does he. So, let's just say if Gaara is rendered unconscious because his mind and body shut down, the demon who feeds off of his life force is likewise rendered unconscious (or disabled). When Gaara is merely sleeping, his mind and body are still fully funtional and capable of fighting, however, Gaara's will is not there to hold the demon back.
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I frankly don't see this completely as Gaara's lost...
Considering that it's like going... "Yeah, I captured him... BUT he totally destroyed my arm..."
If you noticed when Gaara was falling his armor was damaged and all, but hell, not nearly as bad as Lee had damaged it in the preliminary matches... And Gaara still walk out from that like nothing had happened in that match.
Captain Grammar:
We know to a certain extent how naruto's demon was put into naruto, and we know that the nine-tails would die if naruto died, because 9-tails itself said so. What we don't know is "biological" relationship gaara has with the shukaku. I can't remember one instance where they said if gaara dies shukaku dies. Maybe its true, but its entirely possible that shukaku gets released upon gaaras death, or, just remains sealed within the body. We don't know, because no ones ever said anything about it, so you can't make that conclusion, or base any arguments on it.
Edit to Borg: Gaara lost. At this point, if bird girl wanted him dead, he'd be dead. That's complete and utter defeat.
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
- Inquisitor Czevak
Doesnt gaara have a layer of sand always protecting him?? like in the fight versus Rock way before...So im guessing Gaara is ok and has an alterior motive for getting captured.
You can tell that his sand armor is cracked to hell shit. IMO, Gaara is out for the count. The best part of this entire fight wasn't all the flashy or powerful jutsus. It was the part where Gaara went "Shi..." which is an exclamation mark on how fucked Gaara is.Originally posted by: idontnoh
Doesnt gaara have a layer of sand always protecting him?? like in the fight versus Rock way before...So im guessing Gaara is ok and has an alterior motive for getting captured.
ok, it didn't have anytihng to do with the topic, but I just didn't want to start a new shitty thread only to bad mouth youre point of wiew!
and to deem the Akutski the bad guys is WRONG! don'
t you realise that they ar the black heroes! they ar collecting to Youmas just to contain theire powers so it wont harm the world again!
I promise they don't have any bad intentions!
well...I could say that but, nah. Anyways AKutiski rules and Rock Lee rules and Neji and Shikamru are pretty reliable aswell ^^
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Most important things to realise:
1) Gaara lost but he did save the village as Kazekage
2) Gaara believes he owes Naruto for kicking sense into him
3) We are going to see new members of Akatsuki in the next chapter!
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let's drop the topic on gaara. we all know that he will loose from the beginning. no point if he wins.
but i do want him to get free though. it would suck if he was capture and that's the end of gaara. he'll be back on the picture sooner or later.
This wasn't a chapterr about who is the strongest one, or who has the fanciest tricks. This chapter was pure story telling and character development.
I wouldn't even call that a fight with winners or losers. Because gaara and akatsuki-d00d both won.
Akatsuki-d00d won, because he obviously got his work done.
Gaara won, because he fulfilled his new purpose of life. We got the flashback on the huge impact Naruto had on him, that he wanted to become kage, even though he is still feared. He wanted to become the one who inherits the will of his village, loves it, protects it and ultimately sacrifices himself for its sake.
Rather than destroying the d00d, he focused on protecting his villages, putting his personal advantage behind that.
Therefor he fulfilled his role to its best and won.
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no we havent seen plenty we have seen the uchihas, the hyuugas, haku and kimimaro. thats 4 bloodline limits and just because someone got a strange ability doesnt mean its a bloodline limit. kishimoto will explain to us when its a bloodline limit before that dont make assumptions.Originally posted by: Prof. Chaos
Im just guessing that each member has a bloodline limit. Kisame doesnt, but he has the chakra eating sword, a rare powerful item. I doubt the mouth on her hand is an item. I mean we've seen plenty of people with bloodline limits in the series so far, so why not?
I read some where that Kabuto's teammate whose technique was to suck out the opponent's chakara using his palm, was a bloodline limit. Not too sure about that, but all the other limits are already listed by PSJ...Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
no we havent seen plenty we have seen the uchihas, the hyuugas, haku and kimimaro. thats 4 bloodline limits and just because someone got a strange ability doesnt mean its a bloodline limit. kishimoto will explain to us when its a bloodline limit before that dont make assumptions.Originally posted by: Prof. Chaos
Im just guessing that each member has a bloodline limit. Kisame doesnt, but he has the chakra eating sword, a rare powerful item. I doubt the mouth on her hand is an item. I mean we've seen plenty of people with bloodline limits in the series so far, so why not?
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
Nah. In the fight vs. Kimimaro, he said it takes no effort at all for him to make sand from dirt, so, its kinda like he has "homefield advantage" wherever there's dirt. Desert, forest, anywhere not urban. And, at least against that particular akatsuki member, I don't think he would've lost in any situation other than one in which he was forced to sacrifice himself for others.[/quote]Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
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You know that.......Gaara without homefield advantage = shooting practice for akatsuki.
It's not homefield advantage, you never see Gaara use such a big wave of sand. You KNOW how big that was right...........................................
the winner of the fight is determined buy who acheived their goals. birdeyes goal: capture gaara. gaaras goal: defend himself and/or kill bird eye. breaking bird eyes arm wasnt the goal and doesnt mean jack shit unless hes dead. look ath neji versus kidoumaru. sure neji ended up with 2 huge holes in his body, but kidomaru ended up dead... who was the winner of that fight?Originally posted by: Borg-Sy
I frankly don't see this completely as Gaara's lost...
Considering that it's like going... "Yeah, I captured him... BUT he totally destroyed my arm..."
If you noticed when Gaara was falling his armor was damaged and all, but hell, not nearly as bad as Lee had damaged it in the preliminary matches... And Gaara still walk out from that like nothing had happened in that match.
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