Please don't make me wash my eyes.Originally posted by: KitKat
Assertn, although your formula is quite simplistic, it works as a fairly good model to come up with a rough estimate.
Btw, you have no idea how sexy you are when you are solving equations [img][/img]
haha, thanks babe [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
but.....but....simplistic? its about as complicated as one can get when dealing with intersections between 2 linear equations [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Yea that was pretty complicated.
Meh... too much math aint healthy.... I just skipped to the end and saw ur result... plus Kitkat seems to second your result, and being an engineer like me... I guess I'll take her judgement in a postive manner.
complicated? i only looked at it quick cos i cbf doing math at that time, but it looked like a simultaneous equation, which when using linear functions isnt really that hard. but maybe im wrong and it was something else [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
well this is turning into a little math discussion stead of a Naruto one but just for the record 3 equations with 3 variables is quite simple to solve, once you know the logic to create those equations. In any case, filler mostly suck [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img] and specially when they like dragging the show back to I IS NARUTO I WILL OWN YOU LALALAAL and then Naruto gets owned ... and then some stuff happens and Naruto is suddenly back to being strong and cool. Why cant they just make him strong and cool all the time [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]
imagine how fantastic it would be if the anime and manga did end up ending at the same time, intentionally, in such a way that for, say, the last 3 weeks both the manga and anime readers are left with cliffhangers each week, until a spectacular finish.
When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments. Here was a machine of precision and balance for the convenience of man. And (unlike subsequent inventions for man's convenience) the more he used it, the fitter his body became. Here, for once, was a product of man's brain that was entirely beneficial to those who used it, and of no harm or irritation to others. Progress should have stopped when man invented the bicycle. ~Elizabeth West, Hovel in theHills
Die in the face.Originally posted by: Aeon
I hope not, next to Sakura I like him the least out of all the genins.Originally posted by: jing
I heard rumours that there will be a mission with shino and his dad.
Well, it's not his charcther, he need to be silly and pisset off but in the end be the collest charcther around that kick ass!Originally posted by: z0diac
well this is turning into a little math discussion stead of a Naruto one but just for the record 3 equations with 3 variables is quite simple to solve, once you know the logic to create those equations. In any case, filler mostly suck [img][/img] and specially when they like dragging the show back to I IS NARUTO I WILL OWN YOU LALALAAL and then Naruto gets owned ... and then some stuff happens and Naruto is suddenly back to being strong and cool. Why cant they just make him strong and cool all the time [img][/img]
That graph doesn't make sense to me the y axis is volume # but the graph of manga volumes jumps all over the place and it would look that the 10th mark on the manga volumes graph is where the y axis says 5Originally posted by: Ithmatic
http://www.narutofan.com/index.php/c...ession%20graph
right....
it does make sense. ur counting each little manga ball seperately.Originally posted by: Jessper
That graph doesn't make sense, the y axis is volume # but the graph of manga volumes jumps all over the place and it would look that the 10th mark on the manga volumes graph is where the y axis says 5Originally posted by: Ithmatic
http://www.narutofan.com/index.php/c...ession%20graph
right....
the little black manga balls , on each step represent the dates of release of the volumes. and the time it took till the next volume.
this reminds me of my first year physics labs at uni. deadly boring and the calculated value being pretty miles off and rubbish as you havent considered numerous errors in your approximation.
quoting the expected clash date of the manga and anime to 4 significant figures is absurd, let alone to +/- 2 weeks (assuming a month to be ~ 4 weeks). saying the filler episodes are insignificant is also quite stupid as these can fill up to a months in the next year alone quite easily, so if you take assernt's value as around the correct time mark but far too precise then you should really be thinking of march next year +/- 2 months.
Looks like this graph matches AssertnFailure calculations perfectly.Originally posted by: Ithmatic
http://www.narutofan.com/index.php/c...ession%20graph
*camera zooms into face* My god... we only have till the end of this year!
ok first of all, the reason i left everything in fractions till the end is so the final value can be as detailed as i want it to be. Will you feel all warm and fuzzy in your pants if i spend 3 seconds and come up with a number more like 56.7441860465 instead? geez.....Originally posted by: r3n
quoting the expected clash date of the manga and anime to 4 significant figures is absurd, let alone to +/- 2 weeks (assuming a month to be ~ 4 weeks). saying the filler episodes are insignificant is also quite stupid as these can fill up to a months in the next year alone quite easily, so if you take assernt's value as around the correct time mark but far too precise then you should really be thinking of march next year +/- 2 months.
second of all, if you read my post more carefully, i said,
at the rate its going, the anime will catch up to the manga in march of next year.
obviously filler sagas can change this, but they would need to use filler sagas longer than what they've done so far in order to accomplish this.
I don't care how important you may think fillers are to the calculations, but all I know is that during the prelims, the total average ratio was 1.7 chapters per episode.....and guess what, 70 episodes later and the ratio BARELY changed. The series has been airing for over 2 years, and I dunno about you, but I'd say this is a pretty well established trend.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Yeah I just thought you guys may enjoy a visual representation, since some people dont like numbers.
P.S. Jessper get a brain. Maybe try to ask some questions to understand instead of assuming everyone but you is wrong.
it IS confusing though.......
i think they shouldve just gotten rid of the purple graph alltogether.....
nobody cares about the volumes anyway, just the chapters and episodes
btw Jessper, It was confusing for me too, but the purple is not manga chapters, the green is....which is why its a straight line with no outliers.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
btw, "they" = me. The only reason i put both the chapters and volumes in there is that I only have volume release data...then I just assumed that the chapters are a constant 2 volumes ahead of volume releases.
Your suggestions are good though. Maybe I'll get rid of the volume data? Or at least the linear interpolation of the volume data. Anyways, if you have other suggestions to making it more understandable let me know.
i did notice the practicality of putting vol #'s there instead of anything else, but I dont think people use the frame of mind to interpret vol #'s into anything.....
chapter #'s would probably be best for the left side in this case.
by the way, does that thing update every week? if so, then good work....I was thinking of putting some online calendar thingy that predicts where the final week is based on the constantly changing ratio
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
The only problem with calculating the ratio by using only the first and latest releases is that it puts too much weight on the last release. If the last release was a slow one (in terms of storyline progression) then the line will be estimated too shallow. The graph interpolates ALL points so that any inconsistencies are averaged out.
As for the chapters instead of volumes, i guess i could do that...its just a straight mapping right? Is that more understandable to manga readers? (I wouldn't know, I'm a manga virgin).
It doesn't update every week. The way I create it is by using release dates on narutofan.com, but the dates are only for the volumes. So, I can only add a datapoint to the anime line when it reaches the end of a certain volume. I could use a smaller granularity (i.e. chapters) but that would take waay too long. I think the anime has reached another volume so I could add one more data point in there. ANYways, the point is that at most I could only update it like every 1-2 months, when the anime reaches the end of a new volume.
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