248 INANE

[kyubisrage]

Again...... Stop saying gara is weak. He is a KAGE!!!! You should expect him to be able to beat the members. IF it was itachi or somone i would say that is it easy. But gara is in his homeland so stop underestimating him.

[Terracosmo]

He is kage because his father was it before him, and sand is a country with few outstanding shinobis and among them Gaara just happens to be the best.

[Psyke]

Originally posted by: guardiankepeer
Guys !!!!! It would not be the end of the world if the akatsuki girl got beaten by Gaara, after all he is the kazekage.That means something. Last i checked the third faired pretty well against Orochimaru, which was an ex akatsuki member. So for a Kage to beat her, would not be the end of the world. And yes, I know what your probably saying. Gaara is not exactly the Third, but he must have powered up greatly in order to have become the kazekage.

Pretty well? The third in his prime would have beaten Orochimaru. It was his old age and lack of stamina that ultimately made him gave up.

[Insomniac]

just fyi, Orochimaru was the one to kill the last Kazekage (without any damage to himself) and the 3rd was known as the strongest ninja ever

the title of Kage is very little indication of how strong someone is, and not that they're the strongest in the village either (at least in terms of the Leaf as Oro was considered to be the strongest but Yodaime was picked)
that being said, yes Kages are strong but they are not unbeatable (back to Kazekage being killed easily by Orochimaru without raising any suspicion)

i wouldnt compare Gaara to the 3rd

[Ryllharu]

Akatsuki are really not the end all of the shinobi food chain, so stop pretending they are invincible.

1) As previously stated, Orochimaru was once one, and the Third would have obliterated him in his prime (and though his arms were sealed to his credit, Tsunade kicked his ass too).

2) Itachi and Sharkface we're nearly owned by Jiraya, and they both said this. (Though it is also true that Itachi said if his eyes had gone to the 'sun' position, it would have been the other way around.)

3) Gaara was strong before and is obivously stronger than he was now (being sane and all, well, sane-er)

4) Naruto and bunch are obviously going to fight them as well when they go after Kyuubi, and do you honestly think Naruto is going to lose to them and lose Kyuubi? (The show is still called Naruto last time I checked, oh wait, maybe it isn't, I haven't checked in the last two chapters. Nope, still is.)

5) Akatsuki are just really strong clanless ninjas. Probably Sannin class abilities. Maybe I missed the thread where it was declared that the Akatsuki can never be killed because of their overwhelming badass-edness, but they are part of the story line and they're gonna be defeated sometime.

So get your nose out of their ass and realize that some of them are probably going to lose. Do I think all of them will be defeated in a few chapters? No. Some of them probably won't even be hurt. But some will, and some will be killed. Will Gaara lose his fight? Unless someone else shows up, I honestly don't think so.

Gaara almost fought evenly with Kimimaro, and though he said he would have lost, there's two things to remember from that fight. Gaara was 'strongest shield' and Kimimaro was 'strongest spear (or something like that)' They were completly unmatched (and Kishimoto made a point of it). I still think Kimimaro was the strongest character in the series, and Gaara's only grown since then.

Being a Kage has nothing to do with it, he's on home turf and much stronger than before.

[Konohamaru]

Originally posted by: Ryllharu

Gaara almost fought evenly with Kimimaro, and though he said he would have lost, there's two things to remember from that fight. Gaara was 'strongest shield' and Kimimaro was 'strongest spear (or something like that)' They were completly unmatched (and Kishimoto made a point of it). I still think Kimimaro was the strongest character in the series, and Gaara's only grown since then.

Kimimaru lost cos he was running out of time. He had a critical illness and was fueled on spirit and will power alone to even stand up. Plus near the end of the battle in the manga, he spit out blood and says "I'm running out of time" . If Kimi was fit and well, he woulda ended Gaara eventually. I do believe Kimi was a strong character but since he did no jutsu's during the battle, I would say he was the strongest close combat fighter in Naruto.

As for Gaara being Kazekage, that sure did take me by suprise in the last chapter. Plus he looks bad ass now. He's always has been my fave jutsu character even tho my forum name is Konohamaru, lol.

Fave Jutsu Character = Gaara
Fave Fighter = Neji
Overall = Shikamaru

[guardiankepeer]

Thnx for summing it up Ryllharu I was gettign tired of all those akatsuki-lovers.The only thing that i disagreed with you is the fact that Kimimaro was the strongest. I certainly think that Naruto could have taken him ,had he tapped into the fox demons powers even more, like the sasuke match.On the other hand, to give some credit to kimimaro, he was dieing after all. But I still think Uzumaki Naruto is the most badass character in the manga.

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: Konohamaru
Fave Jutsu Character = Gaara
Fave Fighter = Neji
Overall = Shikamaru

couldnt have said it better myself

[basey44]

except for neji
i hope he stopped training after a month and became a McDonalds junkie, stupid neji

[PSJ]

finally someone that dislikes neji, the whole hyuuga clan go hang themselves for all i care. gaara wounded the akatsuki guy big deal now stop crying.

EDIT: wow that sounded weird, i fixed it....

[seds]

I agree that Gaara appears to be much more in control of Shukaku, but lest we forget, if it ever came down to it, his ultimate technique is using Shukaku against his enemy. If it came to that, do you really think that he'll be able to control Shukaku then?

[Deblas]

He's been able to control it before. Why should it be any different now?

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Deblas
He's been able to control it before. Why should it be any different now?

He's never been able to control it. Gaara falls asleep when Shukaku is out.

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@

Originally posted by: Deblas
He's been able to control it before. Why should it be any different now?

He's never been able to control it. Gaara falls asleep when Shukaku is out.

no. If garaa falls asleep then he will lose control of shukaku. but they said he never sleeps, that is why his eyes are like that. and remember he forced himself to sleep using a jutsu when he was fighting naruto.

[Mut]

You're just bad at the English language. However, it's understandable seeing as you are a foreigner.

Look here:

Originally posted by: Deblas

Originally posted by: seds
I agree that Gaara appears to be much more in control of Shukaku, but lest we forget, if it ever came down to it, his ultimate technique is using Shukaku against his enemy. If it came to that, do you really think that he'll be able to control Shukaku then?

He's been able to control it before. Why should it be any different now?

seds question of "do you really think that he'll be able to control Shukakau then?" implies that he is questioning Gaara's ability to control Shukaku once Shukaku is fully out. We know this is true because seds refers using Shukaku as the ultimate technique and Shukaku only comes out completely when Gaara is deep asleep.

Now, you are responding to seds question in regards to the original question with the intended meaning as stated above. But unfortunately, your inability to comprehend such easy wording has made you think otherwise. In order for your response to be in any relevance of what seds said, he'd have to change his post and ask this question: "Would Gaara be able to keep Shukaku from coming out completely?"

Only then will your answer might be correct. Deblas, you are one step behind.

EDIT: I could be completely wrong about what seds really intended to say but probably not. Only way I'll be wrong is if seds tells me that I am incorrect, which would suck.

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
You're just bad at the English language. However, it's understandable seeing as you are a foreigner.

Look here:

Originally posted by: Deblas

Originally posted by: seds
I agree that Gaara appears to be much more in control of Shukaku, but lest we forget, if it ever came down to it, his ultimate technique is using Shukaku against his enemy. If it came to that, do you really think that he'll be able to control Shukaku then?

He's been able to control it before. Why should it be any different now?

seds question of "do you really think that he'll be able to control Shukakau then?" implies that he is questioning Gaara's ability to control Shukaku once Shukaku is fully out. We know this is true because seds refers using Shukaku as the ultimate technique and Shukaku only comes out completely when Gaara is deep asleep.

Now, you are responding to seds question in regards to the original question with the intended meaning as stated above. But unfortunately, your inability to comprehend such easy wording has made you think otherwise. In order for your response to be in any relevance of what seds said, he'd have to change his post and ask this question: "Would Gaara be able to keep Shukaku from coming out completely?"

Only then will your answer might be correct. Deblas, you are one step behind.

EDIT: I could be completely wrong about what seds really intended to say but probably not. Only way I'll be wrong is if seds tells me that I am incorrect, which would suck.

your anwer makes no sense. He is saying if he will be able to control the shukaku the obviously he can as long as he is awake. If hes not then he can't control it. period. what don't you understand? And now you have doubts of what you just said? You better start thinking before flaming someone.

[Captain Grammar]

Shukaku is a demon living inside of Gaara. He's not an attack. If Gaara is able to surpress Shukaku, he is in control. If Gaara wants Shukaku to be in control, Gaara falls asleep. Ultimately, Gaara is in control of the demon living inside of him. He uses its power and surpresses it from overcoming him.

[Mut]

Paging seds: hurry and clear this shit up please.

Oh, BTW, I'm not doubting what I said. I'm doubting people's ability to write what they really want to say and their ability to comprehend what they read.

[hiten mitsurugi]

Captain Grammar is soooooo right.!!!! What was sed thinking when he phrased the question?

[Prof. Chaos]

Remember Gaara can create any part of Shukaku, such as just maybe his arms, and stay perfectly in control.