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  1. #41

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    Drifting in real life is a plausible hobby. It is expensive as with any car hobby but there are thousands who do it in the US.

    I am not a very experienced drifter, but I bought an S14(1995 240SX) about 7 months ago and have been building skills by going to autocross events and track days at the local race track. I have started doing more drifting, but I am having a blast with the car doing grip also.

    Tires is one of the major costs in drifting, but there are many factors that determine how much money you spend on them. High HP cars with skilled drivers can tear up brand new tires very fast. New drivers with relatively lower HP cars use tires less quickly. Some people get older junker tires for cheap/free and finish toasting them off to practice.

    I would suggest to anybody wanting to get into drifting to first do autocross and track days at your closest tracks before actually drifting. I would also say that you should not try drifting on the streets or mountains, especially if you have no experience. Easy way to get yourself or others killed. Street drifting will end up costing more then track drifting too. This is because you will likely brake more parts crashing on the streets then at official drift events. Most tracks are pretty safe to drift and its almost impossible to ruin you car at a parking lot drift event.

    There are plenty of American cars that can/do drift. Sam in his new Pontiac GTO got 3rd place at D1GP during GT live. Ken Gushi will be driving his 05 Mustang at D1 on the 27th. People use older mustangs and camaros all the time. I just recently saw a video of a supercharged el camino tearing up a drift event pretty good.

    It's not just american cars that are plagued by ass-draggin-dom. Most japanese cars are FF too. There are very few new generation RWD cars, especially ones suitable for drifting out of the box.

    At D1 I saw a FF drift machine, it seemed to do well. FF drifting is different. The dynamics are different. Some people argue that its not actually drifting, but whatever. FF drifting doesn't seem to be as fluid and much more difficult to hold a very long high speed drift. AWD are some where between FWD and RWD and they seem to be more suited for high speed drifting. The problem with most FF and AWD cars seems to be that when one gets on the gas, it will tend to pull the car out of the drift, but certain setups can be more oversteer friendly.
    This being said, taking your moms FF daily driver out and trying to hit the e-brake around some turns is about as stupid as it gets.

    If you want to get into car racing, one of the best things to do is go to www.scca.com and look up your local SCCA group and go check out some autocross. Its very easy on your car, almost any car can do this, and its fairly cheap compared to track days. All you need is a somewhat sporty car in good running order and a helmet. And you can usually borrow the helmet. Driving around cones may seem silly, but to do it well and drive fast takes incredible skill.

  2. #42

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    yea yu rite!!! I Live close to Thunder Hill in Caifornia and that where i was planning to Drift!! AND the part about the FF and AWD is true too... unless yu have skillz!!! and Nice car yu got there not too bad for drifting.. anyway soo yur drifting eh? Maybe one day ill get to race yu LoL ^^

  3. #43

    Episode Release

    Yup, I drift. Or at least try. This last saturday was a track day. I was gripping all day getting faster, but the last session I got to practice drifting. I was too chicken to go in fast, so I was having a hard time holding a drift. I have a much better feel for countersteering quickly and things like that, so next time will be better. One of the biggest things holding me back, grip and drift, is not having a LSD. Thats one of my next mods. Except for the one wheel spin, I love the way my car feels now. It has Z32 brakes, TEIN tie rods, spl tension rods, and coilovers. Motor is stock, but should be boosted by the end of the year(I hope).

    I am in new mexico, so doubt you will be seeing me any time soon. I do want to make more road trips to events in AZ and CA when I have more money.

  4. #44

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    Good for you, kclo4, you bring up a very excellent point.

    Drifting is very difficult, and doing it on actual streets is incredibly stupid. Drifting courses are set up specifically to allow you to try out new techniques without a screw-up costing you your life. You try drifting on a steep mountain road and you might skid yourself right off a hundred foot cliff.

    I'm not into racing or drifting myself, but I do enjoy driving a car that has enough power and response to occasionally push when I need to. I'd certainly never go back to driving an automatic clunker like I learned on back in my teenage years!

  5. #45

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    ive seen people actually try to drift on the streets and destroy their cars. Im from newyork and we all know that there arent many tracks around here. Hey kclo4 by "one wheel spin" do you mean pegleg?? Also are you running the KA or DT motor??

  6. #46

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    pegleg, one wheel wonder, it's called many things, but the fact that open diff sucks doesnt change :-)

    Whats a DT?

    I am running a stock KA24DE, but I plan on boosting it. Don't really want to go SR20DET unles I find one for so cheap I can't pass it up. Love the torque on the KA too.

  7. #47
    se3p_supokon
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    street drifting isnt bad u just gotta find the right places like wide corners or parking lots. in cali a cop cant give u a ticket fer drifting in a parking lot unless he sees u visually with his own eyes, otherwise all he can do is tell u to leave. and street corners are really dangerous if cops are around >3 points 1000 and up fine and possible impound> otherwise as long as ur good with control its safe.
    o ya and go to la gardena area u can get sr20's fer around 2000.

  8. #48

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    i meant the det engine, sorry aobut that, brain fart i guess...boost sounds good on the KA, good luck and hope you find the money you need for all that

  9. #49

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    i can't but i wish i could [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

  10. #50

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    damn where are the subs I can't wait anymore!!!

  11. #51

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    Me iether it would be better if we never knew that the raw was out cause the waiting is killing me[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

  12. #52
    bullhead-187
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    Hereing all this about racin cracks me up. Drifting is more for show than anything else. Also still curious why the Rx-7 is able to take the evo's or even a skyline in up hill, just wouldnt work normal but i guess thats what makes it interesting to watch...

  13. #53

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    the moral of the show is that power isnt everything; it is all about your skill on how to drive to win. damn... pay attention.

  14. #54
    JD28
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  15. #55

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    intense is correct. Also you must remember it is an ANIME, like everything else on TV it is either all lies or fantasy...=)

  16. #56
    raven_dwe
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    ep 11 out on animesuki.

  17. #57

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    jd i have aproblem with ur linke idk why but i found another spot to get ur torrent it's at http://tracker.zaerc.com/torrents-details.php?id=1769

  18. #58

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    Do you know anything about FD's? They typicly have a much higher power to weight ratio then a AWD beast like a EVO or GTR.

    300-350hp 2200ishlb car(FD) has serious advantage over 300-350hp 3000ishlb car(EVO, GTR, STi), AWD or no AWD.
    The spec miata racers at the race track here can smoke the crap out of cars with 400-500hp because the drivers are fast and know how the car feels, and they are light weight. They also are lucky if they are pusing 104hp.

    Now, I wont make direct comparisons to Initial D, because it is a show. The only stuff that happens in the show are what the writers and animators tell you what happens.

    Just pointing out that that if your going to say something isnt plausable, at least compare stuff that really doesnt make sence :-)

    Originally posted by: bullhead-187
    Hereing all this about racin cracks me up. Drifting is more for show than anything else. Also still curious why the Rx-7 is able to take the evo's or even a skyline in up hill, just wouldnt work normal but i guess thats what makes it interesting to watch...

  19. #59
    bullhead-187
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    Just a thought about the rx-7 in the anime. I know the thing is about who is a faster driver and not the car because that car would never beat a evo or wrx and etc.

    Sorry kclo4 but i have to disagree with you on a miata beating a wrx or anything like that. Especially on a track or course, the evo beat the imprezza wrx sti in test because it had oversteer because the engine being in the front more than a evo. Also front wheel cars dont have a advantage off the line becaues the weight transfer is going back and not to the front wheels, also fd that have over 300hp usually end up slipping off the line in a drag. In my opinion you only show how fast your car is not how fast of a driver you are, course driving is much more difficult, but knowing how to start off the line is very efficient to.

  20. #60

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    You can disagree all you want but the spec miata drivers are fuggin fast. their cars have highly tuned racing suspension and racing tires, maybe a straight through header back exhaust and airfilter, but they are actually have to run a restrictor plate. They have proven to rip much higher HP cars on race tracks, fact not fiction. Locally they are some of the fastest drivers that go to the track there. An equally skilled driver, in a well prepped higher HP can can be faster then spec miata's, it's just not easy.

    The point remains that less experienced people in higher HP cars cannot turn faster times then experienced drivers in much lower powered cars. Some higher HP cars still arent as fast as the lower HP ones even with equal drivers.

    Not talking about drags or front wheel drive cars either.

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