Upcoming Events.... SEED Destiny Thoughts

**fox_t** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by: Curium
I've said a couple of times that I think it was Dullindal that gave Rau the plans to the Neutron Jammer Canceller to give too the EAF.

But Rau technically never gave the N-Jammer Cancellor plans to the EAF...he sort of let...well destiny decide what would become of the plans...

he let Fllay float onto the battlefield knowing that if the EAF got a whole of it they would use nukes...and also knowing that ZAFT had Genesis and he hoped that both naturals and coordinators would destroy one another...

but letting Fllay float onto the battlefield also gave the Clyne Faction a chance to recover the disk and suppress that information...so really he just let fate decide...of course he didn`t think the nukes would be destroyed and that he would be the one to get fried by Genesis.

**Chris_Xion** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 09:16 AM

Can anyone tell me the name for Cagalli insert song for Akatsuki?

**Strike Freedom** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 09:25 AM

http://img348.imageshack.us/my...?image=sfreedom5ki.jpg

Hey, above is the link with some info on SF and Kira Yamato, just posted and I wanted to know if anyone can translate it from japanese to english, since mine sucks [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

**SFreedomZGMFx20a** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 10:32 AM

I doubt Dullindal Gave Rau those plans, because it looks to me that they are in opossite sides, RAU wanted to destroy mankind and Dullindal looks like he wants to unify it, with him at the top. And i really think he never met Lacus in person, at least not the REAL Lacus, because Meer is faking the FAKE Lacus, but the REAL Lacus is the one that we know now.

Anyway i cant wait till Phase 44, i'll be having classes the Saturdays from now on so i will have to wait a few extra hours b4 watching the raws, now i know how lucky i am (luck factor=0). * me crying a lot * Really i dont want to go tomorrow, this is the PHase we all have beenn waiting for "PHASE 42" and after a recap its so frustrating.

**Curium** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by: SFreedomZGMFx20a
I doubt Dullindal Gave Rau those plans, because it looks to me that they are in opossite sides, RAU wanted to destroy mankind and Dullindal looks like he wants to unify it, with him at the top. And i really think he never met Lacus in person, at least not the REAL Lacus, because Meer is faking the FAKE Lacus, but the REAL Lacus is the one that we know now.

Anyway i cant wait till Phase 44, i'll be having classes the Saturdays from now on so i will have to wait a few extra hours b4 watching the raws, now i know how lucky i am (luck factor=0). * me crying a lot * Really i dont want to go tomorrow, this is the PHase we all have beenn waiting for "PHASE 42" and after a recap its so frustrating.

Keep in mind in the last recap before 41 (the one where it showed Dullindal talking to an imaginary Rau) Dullindal was talking about starting all over again. He may want to wipe out everyone and remake the world with only "Ultimate Coordinators" or something like that. That is just conjecture on my part though.

Originally posted by: fox_t

Originally posted by: Curium
I've said a couple of times that I think it was Dullindal that gave Rau the plans to the Neutron Jammer Canceller to give too the EAF.

But Rau technically never gave the N-Jammer Cancellor plans to the EAF...he sort of let...well destiny decide what would become of the plans...

he let Fllay float onto the battlefield knowing that if the EAF got a whole of it they would use nukes...and also knowing that ZAFT had Genesis and he hoped that both naturals and coordinators would destroy one another...

but letting Fllay float onto the battlefield also gave the Clyne Faction a chance to recover the disk and suppress that information...so really he just let fate decide...of course he didn`t think the nukes would be destroyed and that he would be the one to get fried by Genesis.

Saying Rau technically never gave the NJC plans to the EAF is like saying that Rau technically never shot Buster or Freedom. It was the DRAGOON units. It was quite obvious what Rau wanted.

**SFreedomZGMFx20a** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by: Curium

Originally posted by: fox_t

Originally posted by: Curium
I've said a couple of times that I think it was Dullindal that gave Rau the plans to the Neutron Jammer Canceller to give too the EAF.

But Rau technically never gave the N-Jammer Cancellor plans to the EAF...he sort of let...well destiny decide what would become of the plans...

he let Fllay float onto the battlefield knowing that if the EAF got a whole of it they would use nukes...and also knowing that ZAFT had Genesis and he hoped that both naturals and coordinators would destroy one another...

but letting Fllay float onto the battlefield also gave the Clyne Faction a chance to recover the disk and suppress that information...so really he just let fate decide...of course he didn`t think the nukes would be destroyed and that he would be the one to get fried by Genesis.

Saying Rau technically never gave the NJC plans to the EAF is like saying that Rau technically never shot Buster or Freedom. It was the DRAGOON units. It was quite obvious what Rau wanted.

@curium, i think @fox_t is right, in the episode i have Rau calls in all frecuencies, i think (the important part is that both Dominion and ArchAngel received the transmision), and said to ArchAngel that he was releasing a hostage in a pod, i think he mentioned the hostage was Flley. Captain Bajiru ordered to one of the EAF druggies to retrieve the pod, but Azrael didnt approve untill Flley tried to contact ArchAngel from the pod sayind that she had the KEY to end the war, so Azrael got interested and ordered the retrieval of the pod (maybe Azrael didnt ordered that, but he certainly didnt oppose like at the beginning). Now all that was left was to see who would retrieve the pod first, Kira or the EAF druggie.

so u are wrong @Curium

**Curium** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by: SFreedomZGMFx20a
@curium, i think @fox_t is right, in the episode i have Rau calls in all frecuencies, i think (the important part is that both Dominion and ArchAngel received the transmision), and said to ArchAngel that he was releasing a hostage in a pod, i think he mentioned the hostage was Flley. Captain Bajiru ordered to one of the EAF druggies to retrieve the pod, but Azrael didnt approve untill Flley tried to contact ArchAngel from the pod sayind that she had the KEY to end the war, so Azrael got interested and ordered the retrieval of the pod (maybe Azrael didnt ordered that, but he certainly didnt oppose like at the beginning). Now all that was left was to see who would retrieve the pod first, Kira or the EAF druggie.

so u are wrong @Curium

Rau didn't mention who it was. Neither side knew who it was until Flay started transmitting from inside the pod. Before that the Archangel planned to let the Dominion have the pod because they were criminals at the time and wouldn't be able to take the person in the pod anywhere. The Dominion would have been able to meet up with another ship to take the person. It wasn't until Flay started transmitting that Kira tried to interfer, at which point it was too late. Kira's interest in saving Flay was probably unknown to Rau. Beyond a shadow of a doubt it is you and fox_t that are wrong.

**NomoZ** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 09:31 PM

Curium is correct, I just rewatched the eps, Rau only broadcasted to the "EARTH ALLIANCE Archangel-class Battleship"(Dominion, they were the only ship to react to the message) and said they had a captive they wanted to hand over. No-one knew it was Flay until she started broadcasting on all channels looking for the archangel. Like SFreedom said Bajiru ordered the druggie piloting Calamity to pick her up, which he did reluctantly. During all this Kira was in a state of shock and had to be protected by Asuran. Flay then started talking about the key which entrigued Azrael. Kira then went off to try and get her but he was stopped by Raider and Forbidden.

**fox_t** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 09:47 PM

Sorry...i am corrected...

but i still don't think Dullindal gave Rau the plans...

Rau was pretty high up in ZAFT...i'm pretty sure he came upon these plans on his own...especially given the fact that Providence was a nuclear powered gundam...

**Curium** · Fri, 08-05-2005, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by: fox_t
Sorry...i am corrected...

but i still don't think Dullindal gave Rau the plans...

Rau was pretty high up in ZAFT...i'm pretty sure he came upon these plans on his own...especially given the fact that Providence was a nuclear powered gundam...

Yeah, that part is a guess. I need to check into it. IIRC Rau got the disk with the info at some bar.

**Guardian_2000** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 09:17 AM

After seeing 42 and then finding out that someone put it on 4 I had to give you guys this cap. Fricken awesome

**Anonyguy** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
After seeing 42 and then finding out that someone put it on 4 I had to give you guys this cap. Fricken awesome

You neglected to mention that Kira tosses his rifles in the air, catches Destiny's sword, disarms it and then catches his rifles as they fall back down. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

**fox_t** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 09:46 AM

That's a page right out of a chinese kung-fu movie.

**Guardian_2000** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 12:26 PM

As I said in the other thread. I haven't wanted to really spoil this episode. It was just so fucking awesome. And Mu giving the same line. After he saves the Archangel from the missiles.

**Chris_Xion** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 12:34 PM

Yea,damn it y is the SkyGrasper so plain,they didnt even equip it with the Striker Packs...they should have upgraded it to the SkyGrasper G-Flight or some new stuff,Mu is an ace fighter pilot afterall

**Strike Freedom** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by: Chris_Xion
Yea,damn it y is the SkyGrasper so plain,they didnt even equip it with the Striker Packs...they should have upgraded it to the SkyGrasper G-Flight or some new stuff,Mu is an ace fighter pilot afterall

I agree, since everyone else is getting upgraded, he should too. Maybe he'll upgrade to a better mobile suit or something as the series progresses.

Also, if you saw the preview, it looks like Kira goes Newtype because he has that same look as in 39, maybe a release of dragoons???? Also, IJ comes out to the scene and it looks like the old days, complete ownage by IJ and SF....ahhh the good old days!

Also, it appears that Orb does indeed withstand its ground and wins, afterwards you see Mwu and Murrue talking outside....hope a romance rekindles but then I feel bad for Wadfield....hmmm....so much to ponder about....

**zn|¹** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 02:45 PM

Can't release DRAGOONS unless you're in a zero gravity environment; that's why LEGEND hasn't used them yet either.

**naruto-kira** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 03:29 PM

i'll spoil it...LOL, Freedom embarass Shinn and spared his pathetic life, Kira bust a samurai move on Shinn, omg it was so freaking cool. Everyone wanted to see angry Kira, well.. episode 42 is probably the last time we see him mad. The truth is told...Shinn is no Rival to Kira.

"angry Kira" will own "angry Shinn" soo bad!!! that it's embarassing.

**Curium** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by: Chris_Xion
Yea,damn it y is the SkyGrasper so plain,they didnt even equip it with the Striker Packs...they should have upgraded it to the SkyGrasper G-Flight or some new stuff,Mu is an ace fighter pilot afterall

This is unrealistic for this episode. They weren't allowing him out to fight, they were just setting him free since they had no reason left to hold him against his will. It is exactly the same as what happened with Dearkka in SEED. They let him go and he chose to fight along side them (or at least against the same enemy).

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
After seeing 42 and then finding out that someone put it on 4 I had to give you guys this cap. Fricken awesome

Thanks for the images. If it wouldn't be too much trouble could you post the chest cannon block as well?

**fox_t** · Sun, 08-07-2005, 04:25 AM

i think they had Neo do that just to put the debate to rest...

it's now indisputable...he's obviously Mu.

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