Well he certainly has what he has been lacking since he rejoined ZAFT, motivation.Originally posted by: Millenium-Boyz
I hope asuran will be the one who kicks shin's ass because he obviously got more skill and experience than shin.
Also, Just want to note again, on page 15 of this thread I specifically called the launching the Chest flyer at Freedom.
speaking of it its "neutron jammer canceller" and i'm wondering if savior as that...savior seems kinda weak and hasnt done much has it...?
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
saviour was more powerfull than impulse
yes but, does it use nuclear power? if not then that may be why its still no match for freedom.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
nope it had the same deutorion beam energy transfer system as impulse
did anyone notice that kira relized who was the pilot of impluse since for some reason kira can supposedly " can sense things like he's a newtype " seriously
asuran is a excellent pilot but is unsure of himself like kira if you notice in his fight he's always thinking about something someone said and sucking his teeth like damn WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR opps kira sorry for keeping you away from cagalli don't reck saviour.
damit kira its gonna take forever for me to get a new ms
The reason Saviour seemed weak is, as I pointed out at the top of this page, Athrun wasn't motivated to fight. He spent nearly all of his time just screwing around and dodging. If Athrun had gotten his act together then we could have seen what Saviour was really capable of.Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
speaking of it its "neutron jammer canceller" and i'm wondering if savior as that...savior seems kinda weak and hasnt done much has it...?
EDIT: This is completely unrelated, but since no one else has posted in this thread I have to do an edit.
While rewatching episodes I noticed something in episode 7. At about the 10:50 point Dullindal is commenting on the fall of Junius 7 to Mia, he said it was just the "prelude to real troble" and then smiled his evil smile.
yes danny...he sensed mwu in ep 23 and also sensed shinn as portrayed in 34
Since Asuran seemed to be lost, he seemed to be losing his strength, meanwhile Shinn, who has a direction keeps on building his strength. I believe Shinn could be better than Asuran, regardless what MS theyre using.
i dont know about that yea shinn has improve but dont count asuran out also asuran looking weak makes shinn looks stronger but has asuran gone seed once since this series started and he's still alive
It would appear they are saving Athrun's first SEED mode in this series for something special. I bet its going to be spectacular, and I'm praying that its going to be used against Shinn.
Should be a good fight.
I think it's interesting that you brought up the point of Shinn not being the Hero of the story. When they replaced Impulse with Strike Freedom instead of Destiny in the opening, a friend and I joked around that maybe they did it because they only showcase the Hero/Good Guy's MS and Shinn would become a villain later on in the series. I can see it easily happening at the rate things are moving. Obviously Dullindal has a very powerful rallying cry in declaring Logos as the source of all the recent conflict. As stated in the later episodes several of the earth nations do flock to the Zaft banner effectively giving the Chairman an even greater fighting force. And with "righteousness" on their side them plan to eliminate Logos and anything affiliated with them.
Now Dullindal can effectively use this force to squash anything or anybody that disagrees with his values and ideals. All he has to do is say that his opponent is a Logos supporter and his horde can go and crush them. Shinn and Destiny make the perfect ace in hole for him as well. Since Shinn seems to be absolutely loyal to the Chairman I doubt that he would question any order coming directly from him, effectively functioning as Dullindal's personal gestapo/bully boy.
The theory that Shinn will slowly transform into a villain only works if Dullindal is in fact evil, though. They've certainly given enough clues and info to make viewers suspect that he has a less than savory agenda. (His seemingly peerless information about Logos, the fact that he was a good friend of Raww and probably had an inkling of what his unstable buddy had planned for humanity, looking over the schematics of Destroy before it even appeared, etc.) I think the series would be a lot more interesting if Shinn did indeed function in the role of villain instead of hero. I personally think he would make a better villain than hero and while I'm loathe to use the comparison as well but it would be very similar to Star Wars and Anakin's fall from grace.
Those are just my personal thoughts though.
Originally posted by: MeroTZ
Shinn might be the main character, but he is by no means the "Hero" of the story. He's certainly not been developed as a guy you really want to root for (unless you want the war to go on forever, with Shinn tragically murdering people who would love ot help him).
Kira on the other hand, is the "Good Guy". The fact that people root for the good guy over a jerk like Shinn should not be surprising.
This story might be comparable (I hate to make this comparison) to the fall of Anakin Skywalker... because I certainly liked Shinn more at the beginning than I do now, and I see him getting worse and worse through to the end of the series.
Thats my bit. Hopefully I'm wrong and Shinn will grow up.
MeroTZ
thats a good point MeroTZ about the opening ms changing. i think what the series is trying to show here is the fall of a main character who doesnt become your typical hero however people always wanna see the good guy come out on top so there just probbably slowly switching the focus from shinn to kira
I totally Agree. There may be two main characters like in GS. But Kira will remain the Hero while Shinn turns evil
That may be why the MS were switched and Kira and the AA squad are at the end of the ending. I hope that happends because I dislike shinn, however shinn is his own character too. You could almsot say Kira was very similar to shinn in GS, but you can see many differences in the way both were developed...so kira is the HERO. Shinn is almost like the male version of frey in this stroy, but he is a main character.
Kira better be alive...I know he is the pilot for Strike freedom, but the director may jsut be fooling us, who knows.
I hope they switch the focus to kira. It looks like that will happend after kira is found alive, but I doubt the will reveal anything about kira for at least 2 episodes.
Im just wondering who will be the GSD's main focus during episode 35 - 39(when they show you Strike freedom for the 1st time) because Minerva and Destiny won't have any strong enemy during that period. as you know minerva will think that AA and Freedom have been destroyed, so im just wonderign whether those 4 next episodes will be boring or exciting. i hope it gonna be boring coz im going back to indonesia for a 2 weeks holiday, the internet there is very slow, i dont want to regret for missing episode 36-38 LoL
You can get them when you get home, so you won't miss them, just be a little tardy.Originally posted by: Millenium-Boyz
Im just wondering who will be the GSD's main focus during episode 35 - 39(when they show you Strike freedom for the 1st time) because Minerva and Destiny won't have any strong enemy during that period. as you know minerva will think that AA and Freedom have been destroyed, so im just wonderign whether those 4 next episodes will be boring or exciting. i hope it gonna be boring coz im going back to indonesia for a 2 weeks holiday, the internet there is very slow, i dont want to regret for missing episode 36-38 LoL
Also I would assume that ZAFT would have divers checking for wreckage of the Archangel to make sure they got it, so they will know.
I got wondering before, Shinn seems poised to be the bad guy as such since he has to face Kira again, and i think we have Rey fighting Athrun, so Could it be at all possible Kira isnt the only Successful "Perfect" Coordinator. Could it be there were 2 Success's Kira and Shinn and that Rau only knew of 1 complete project. Shinn is younger that Kira Isnt he?
Yeah, I think he is. And I like that theory.
And I am beginngin to hate Kira. Always underestamiting others like Shinn. Then he got owned ^-^
I think Shinn is 16 and Kira is 18. I think the scientists wold've have stopped trying to make the "perfect" co-ordinater if they already reached success with Kira.
Shinn would be more angry if he learns what Kira learned about his countless amount of brothers/sisters who were sacrificed in the name of science so he can be born.
In other words, Shinn would be as angry as he was when fighting Kira all the time.
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