it was the cheapest ass wayOriginally posted by: kinggalaxia
lol, I just noticed this with Tekno's last post, but...
you guys are finally accepting that Shinn will beat Kira....yet you're thinking of the cheapest ass ways for Shinn to win. *sigh, sigh, sigh* I will say this....if you guys are correct about the fight, then Fukuda needs to grow a brain and learn about 'change'. It can't all be about Kira. Even Amuro & Char had to die at one point for Tomino.
edit: just read ur thing in #34....don't sound cheap to me. more like skillfull and taking charge of what we can do against a beast like Kira.Originally posted by: Deamon007
it was the cheapest ass wayOriginally posted by: kinggalaxia
lol, I just noticed this with Tekno's last post, but...
you guys are finally accepting that Shinn will beat Kira....yet you're thinking of the cheapest ass ways for Shinn to win. *sigh, sigh, sigh* I will say this....if you guys are correct about the fight, then Fukuda needs to grow a brain and learn about 'change'. It can't all be about Kira. Even Amuro & Char had to die at one point for Tomino.
you sayed "you guys are finally accepting that Shinn will beat Kira....yet you're thinking of the cheapest ass ways for Shinn to win" so I sayed "it was the cheapest ass way"Originally posted by: kinggalaxia
wow, and that reply made sense how?Originally posted by: Deamon007
it was the cheapest ass wayOriginally posted by: kinggalaxia
lol, I just noticed this with Tekno's last post, but...
you guys are finally accepting that Shinn will beat Kira....yet you're thinking of the cheapest ass ways for Shinn to win. *sigh, sigh, sigh* I will say this....if you guys are correct about the fight, then Fukuda needs to grow a brain and learn about 'change'. It can't all be about Kira. Even Amuro & Char had to die at one point for Tomino.
I saw it
y'know what, whatever. you guys won't give Shinn a fair chance for anything. Me? I will sit back and enjoy the growth of this MAIN CHARACTER, and not bitch why he's winning and moving along. I mean, the main character doing that? heaven forbid!!!
Shinn might be the main character, but he is by no means the "Hero" of the story. He's certainly not been developed as a guy you really want to root for (unless you want the war to go on forever, with Shinn tragically murdering people who would love ot help him).
Kira on the other hand, is the "Good Guy". The fact that people root for the good guy over a jerk like Shinn should not be surprising.
This story might be comparable (I hate to make this comparison) to the fall of Anakin Skywalker... because I certainly liked Shinn more at the beginning than I do now, and I see him getting worse and worse through to the end of the series.
Thats my bit. Hopefully I'm wrong and Shinn will grow up.
MeroTZ
yea your right does have the same thing as anakin going on but for his sake lets hope he comes to some sort of an understanding if this keeps up he's not gonna be alive at the end of the series
I think it's interesting that you brought up the point of Shinn not being the Hero of the story. When they replaced Impulse with Strike Freedom instead of Destiny in the opening, a friend and I joked around that maybe they did it because they only showcase the Hero/Good Guy's MS and Shinn would become a villain later on in the series. I can see it easily happening at the rate things are moving. Obviously Dullindal has a very powerful rallying cry in declaring Logos as the source of all the recent conflict. As stated in the later episodes several of the earth nations do flock to the Zaft banner effectively giving the Chairman an even greater fighting force. And with "righteousness" on their side them plan to eliminate Logos and anything affiliated with them.
Now Dullindal can effectively use this force to squash anything or anybody that disagrees with his values and ideals. All he has to do is say that his opponent is a Logos supporter and his horde can go and crush them. Shinn and Destiny make the perfect ace in hole for him as well. Since Shinn seems to be absolutely loyal to the Chairman I doubt that he would question any order coming directly from him, effectively functioning as Dullindal's personal gestapo/bully boy.
The theory that Shinn will slowly transform into a villain only works if Dullindal is in fact evil, though. They've certainly given enough clues and info to make viewers suspect that he has a less than savory agenda. (His seemingly peerless information about Logos, the fact that he was a good friend of Raww and probably had an inkling of what his unstable buddy had planned for humanity, looking over the schematics of Destroy before it even appeared, etc.) I think the series would be a lot more interesting if Shinn did indeed function in the role of villain instead of hero. I personally think he would make a better villain than hero and while I'm loathe to use the comparison as well but it would be very similar to Star Wars and Anakin's fall from grace.
Those are just my personal thoughts though.
Originally posted by: MeroTZ
Shinn might be the main character, but he is by no means the "Hero" of the story. He's certainly not been developed as a guy you really want to root for (unless you want the war to go on forever, with Shinn tragically murdering people who would love ot help him).
Kira on the other hand, is the "Good Guy". The fact that people root for the good guy over a jerk like Shinn should not be surprising.
This story might be comparable (I hate to make this comparison) to the fall of Anakin Skywalker... because I certainly liked Shinn more at the beginning than I do now, and I see him getting worse and worse through to the end of the series.
Thats my bit. Hopefully I'm wrong and Shinn will grow up.
MeroTZ
thats a good point MeroTZ about the opening ms changing. i think what the series is trying to show here is the fall of a main character who doesnt become your typical hero however people always wanna see the good guy come out on top so there just probbably slowly switching the focus from shinn to kira
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