Upcoming Events.... SEED Destiny Thoughts

**Curium** · Thu, 05-26-2005, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by: LokeXero
I actually hold the opinion that Shinn is a better pilot than Kira (yes flame Me if you Must) cause on the several occasions Freedoms been in the same battle as Impulse neither has won and Kira didnt even scratch Impulse last time and he had by far the Stronger mobile suit. Therefore if Shinn gets a suit equal to Freedom, i reckon he'll win.

I have not intention of flaming, but I will point out that Kira wasn't acctually trying very hard. They have been in the same battle twice. In the first one, Kira took one swing to take out Impulse's right forearm and moved on. In the second, Shinn went SEED and managed 1 dodge before Athrun interferred and stopped the battle. Kira hadn't even gone into SEED mode yet at that point. There has been nothing to even suggest Shinn is a better pilot (except Arthur's comment, but he's an idiot anyways).

**Madell** · Thu, 05-26-2005, 09:09 AM

Loke you wish man, only way shinn will beat kira is the destiny freedom fight (not strike freedom)

**LokeXero** · Thu, 05-26-2005, 09:24 AM

ah well see what happens in later eps. My money would still be on Shinn though cause of his immense hatred towards Freedom (Ep33). Kira Obviously kills Stellar though (Same ep i think)...
One of them will die in battle against the other though and its just a preferance who you like better as to who you reckon will win....

Unrelated topic - I havent seen much of Astray and i was wondering to those that have Is there any showing off of Gold Frame or is it Simply Red Vs Blue

**Madell** · Thu, 05-26-2005, 09:55 AM

You only say that because you'r a Shinn fanboy, but when you look at the skills Kira has better skills

**LokeXero** · Thu, 05-26-2005, 09:58 AM

Only cause hes apparantly the Top Co-ordinater. Stick Shinn in Freedom against Kira in Freedom and it would be a good battle, you cant dispute that...

**Madell** · Thu, 05-26-2005, 10:46 AM

Yeah it would be a good battle, but with Kira's experiance and his skill, kira would win against shinn

**Guardian_2000** · Thu, 05-26-2005, 11:47 AM

Well since you guys feel that Kira will pwn shinn. I refer you to this pic. I'm guessing that Most of this dmg is from the Destroy fight. And then Shinn gets beat on but with the fact that he can just change equipment and get new parts he probably switches and even recharges mid fight finally taking Freedom down. Kira is gonna give him one hell of a fight even in the handicap. Kira's definately a better pilot but with his no kill policy, having blown up Destroy and the psycho Shinn I suppose this result is possible.

ENJOY! I'll work on getting a translation but anyone more versed in japanese feel free to post one up.

**Psyke** · Thu, 05-26-2005, 11:53 AM

Cool picture! Can't wait for the 2 of them to clash head to head, and of course receive new Gundams so that they can do it all over again......

**Curium** · Thu, 05-26-2005, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by: LokeXero
Unrelated topic - I havent seen much of Astray and i was wondering to those that have Is there any showing off of Gold Frame or is it Simply Red Vs Blue

Depends. There were 2 animation shorts, 1 each for Red and Blue frame. Gold frame was included in the Manga series. Gold Frame was easily the most deadly (it was the only one with full Phase Shift armor for one, and it also had Blitz's right arm giving it the Trikeros (sp?) weapon system and Mirage Colloid (sp?).)

**chitgoks** · Thu, 05-26-2005, 08:51 PM

i want to see a scene where kira gets back at shinn for taking advantage. shin will feel mighty again after he destroys freedom. i hope theyll show another fight between them with their new gundams.. then kira will have the last laugh...

**LokeXero** · Thu, 05-26-2005, 11:29 PM

I think that Kira will sacrifice himself in the end so Shinn will win by default cause kira wont kill him.

To my Gold frame quote ...I know, im a Nicol fan first so i would like to know what happened to the parts of his suit. Maybe thats why im anti Kira to an extent...

**NomoZ** · Thu, 05-26-2005, 11:53 PM

Gundam Astray Gold Frame Amatu

**Curium** · Fri, 05-27-2005, 01:23 AM

I've been think a little after seeing the picture posted by Guardian (thanks btw). Looking at it (assuming it is at least an honost representation of the fight if not a screenshot) both obviously take a good amount of damage.

You all know that of course, so here is my comment, I don't believe that Kira has ever seen Impulse launch. He may not know that it has the Core Splendor and combines for the MS mode. From the look of that picture, it would seem like Shinn is in a good position to eject the head flyer with the beam saber in position to hit Freedom. That type of thing would catch Kira completely off guard since he has never seen an attack anything like that. If Shinn times it right, I can see that taking Kira even if Kira is in SEED mode.

**LokeXero** · Fri, 05-27-2005, 03:33 AM

Hmm Thats an interesting speculation Curium reminds me of how Heine died being cut in half by gaia. So it's decent speculation , i guess we'll just have to wait to see how that fight occurs...

Whats Athrun supposed to be doing during the fight though...

On Seed Destiny Astray though http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/seed-msv/gat-x133.htm looks sweet...

**Aramis** · Fri, 05-27-2005, 03:58 AM

Wahh, Stellar is going to die! I mean, the next episode is named after her and all.
I too think that Shinn will be the known as the one who sliced freedom into oblivion. That's badass! People are really gonna fear him then [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
After that I guess he's gonna ask for FAITH so he can do any crazy stuff he likes. He's gonna get it too because the chancellor is his bitch. =D

**k_truong** · Fri, 05-27-2005, 05:15 AM

the damage cause to freedom
could that of been done by destroyer before the shin battle?
by the looks of it... kira got it handed to him hard

**Madell** · Fri, 05-27-2005, 09:17 AM

This is what i think Kira and shinn both fought Destroy..kira destroys it (both heavenly damaged) kills stellar...then shinn is angered...kira shoots his legs and stuff like he usealy does...then thinks that it's over shinn will just regenerate with those nooby leg flyers etc. and then ows freedom because it's so damaged and impulse isn't anymore [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

**Curium** · Fri, 05-27-2005, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by: LokeXero
Hmm Thats an interesting speculation Curium reminds me of how Heine died being cut in half by gaia. So it's decent speculation , i guess we'll just have to wait to see how that fight occurs...

Whats Athrun supposed to be doing during the fight though...

On Seed Destiny Astray though http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/seed-msv/gat-x133.htm looks sweet...

Sword Calamity was also in the Astray Blue Frame anime short.

If you are inerested in the Destiny Astray, you can download a scanlated version of volume 1 here:

http://forums.zeonic-corps.net/

**Splash!** · Fri, 05-27-2005, 04:38 PM

seriously, i dont see stellar dying in the next episode. first of all episodes were named kira and athrun in seed andthat didn mean that they were gonna die in that episode. The fact that the episode has been named after her seems to suggest her importance to the series even more meaning that she will probably stay around till the end at least before she dies(if she does). Secondly, it dusn make sense to show the destiny and the strike freedom charging towards the destroy, with stellar and shinn going against each other, unless she will stick around to for shinn to fight her in the destiny

**Splash!** · Sat, 05-28-2005, 03:46 PM

damn! i take back what i said what a twist

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