well they wouldnt have to retrofit it; they are ZAFT's designs to begin with anyway. but if they are real that would be interesting heheh. its what i liked about strike---the variability, but this is quite a bit much if its true.
well they wouldnt have to retrofit it; they are ZAFT's designs to begin with anyway. but if they are real that would be interesting heheh. its what i liked about strike---the variability, but this is quite a bit much if its true.
They need to make a self-sustaining Strike-type gundam. Like where the main suit can be used by itself, completely separate from its packs (and without the core block/splendor system), then there would be just a single pack that could transform into different 'modes'. If the suit was nuclear powered then I think this would work really well.. infact now that I think about it, im sad Knight Justice's pack wasn't changed like this.
Yeah, that picture of Destroy really reminds me of Unicron smashing Cybertron in the Transformers movie. Mmm...I loved the music in that movie.
Well, if you think about it, a nuclear power mobile suit is pretty much packed with enough power to equal the 3 separate packs. Freedom had like 5+ beam weapons. Justice had the dual beam saber (2 blades in 1) and the boomerang. They both had increadible mobility. In my opinion, transforming on a nuclear powered suit would be a waste since it'd just be easier to have all the systems active all at once. Plus this isn't like Transformers where Megatron would transform from a big mecha to small pistol...Originally posted by: Barumonk
They need to make a self-sustaining Strike-type gundam. Like where the main suit can be used by itself, completely separate from its packs (and without the core block/splendor system), then there would be just a single pack that could transform into different 'modes'. If the suit was nuclear powered then I think this would work really well.. infact now that I think about it, im sad Knight Justice's pack wasn't changed like this.
It would be cool if they made a remake of Wing Zero on to GSD. Wing Zero would own all the mobile suits. It would bust out its twin buster rifle and destroy the Freedom in 1 or 2 shots.
Yea Right!! Wing Zero has nothing against the FreedomOriginally posted by: Rik
It would be cool if they made a remake of Wing Zero on to GSD. Wing Zero would own all the mobile suits. It would bust out its twin buster rifle and destroy the Freedom in 1 or 2 shots.
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Wing Zero is so much better. I don't see freedom able to destroy space colonys in one shot
Zero system > SEED mode.
umm. Thats because he doesn't want to kill anyone let alone a whole colony.Originally posted by: Rik
Wing Zero is so much better. I don't see freedom able to destroy space colonys in one shot
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Space Colonies don't move...Freedom does, very fast. Kira could out pilot Heero anyday.Originally posted by: Rik
Wing Zero is so much better. I don't see freedom able to destroy space colonys in one shot
pffft.... kira fanboys
zero would knock anyone out in terms on design and performance.
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umm. Thats because he doesn't want to kill anyone let alone a whole colony. And if the Strike was able to destroy a colony what makes you think the Freedom doesn't have the power.Originally posted by: Rik
Wing Zero is so much better. I don't see freedom able to destroy space colonys in one shot
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I was just trying to think of a way to make the pack better, especially in such a situation as with Justice. Honestly any one of Strike's original packs were more useful than Justice's pack. What I mean is something simple, like a wing design where cannons are stored inside, similar to Freedom's shoulder cannons. One form would retract them and move the wings into a position to allow more mobility, and another position would bring the cannons out to allow more firepower. Hell, even a position where the wings actually come forward and form a sword, ala Blue Frame MSV. It would provide some interesting situations if the pack was more of an extension to the suit rather than a frame for required technologies.Originally posted by: TeknoXI
Well, if you think about it, a nuclear power mobile suit is pretty much packed with enough power to equal the 3 separate packs. Freedom had like 5+ beam weapons. Justice had the dual beam saber (2 blades in 1) and the boomerang. They both had increadible mobility. In my opinion, transforming on a nuclear powered suit would be a waste since it'd just be easier to have all the systems active all at once. Plus this isn't like Transformers where Megatron would transform from a big mecha to small pistol...
Sure Justice's pack can move on its own, but then the suit loses its mobility. The whole HiMAT system for Justice is tied directly to its pack, which sacrifices a large amount of Justice's defensive/evasive abilities just for a free flying pack that can, at best, act as a distraction. If the enemy just ignores the pack then Justice is simply fucked if against a suit of near equal power. If the suit could act on its own without the pack as a requirement, and then use it as an extension to its abilities then I think it would be much more useful and make quite the badass gundam.
to be very honestly...
both wing zero and freedom suck!!
especially wing zero basically can't hit a moving target unless it self-destruct or get the beam rifles and do a 180 degress balley dance
bet you anything even a Qubeley/RX-79 GP-03D can own both of them
Okay just to make the people who brought wing into this thread and those that seem to agree with them Wing Zero vs Freedom just isn't going to work. Freedom is way more mobile than Wing Zero for one. Zero may have a stronger attack but its limited in number of shots and ROF. Freedom can keep on shooting high powered energy shots till well Freedom doesn't run out of power so till Zero is dead.
You might think the Zero system is better than Seed Mode. But thats also put under question. What are the two. Zero system was sorta created to be like a newtypes precog abilities. You'd know what they are going to do ahead of time. It showed the pilot the way to victory. That doesn't work against Seed mode since SEED mode heightens the users awareness and reaction times.
Seed pilot fires
Zero pilot dodges and is shown next attack so plans for counter
Seed pilot does as Zero system shows and Zero pilot counters
While Zero is countering Seed pilot quickly reacts and counters the counter
The Zero system cannot compete with the fast analyzing and reaction time of a Seed-Mode pilot. Plus their awareness may even supercede what the Zero system is capable of if Kira's abilities are the eventual progression of all SEED mode pilots.
As for the capabilities of Knight Justice. We don't even have a clue what it or its pack is capable of. Lets wait and see before we condemn it.
no matter how strong they are...i don't see anyway they can beat Nu Gundam tho.....Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Okay just to make the people who brought wing into this thread and those that seem to agree with them Wing Zero vs Freedom just isn't going to work. Freedom is way more mobile than Wing Zero for one. Zero may have a stronger attack but its limited in number of shots and ROF. Freedom can keep on shooting high powered energy shots till well Freedom doesn't run out of power so till Zero is dead.
You might think the Zero system is better than Seed Mode. But thats also put under question. What are the two. Zero system was sorta created to be like a newtypes precog abilities. You'd know what they are going to do ahead of time. It showed the pilot the way to victory. That doesn't work against Seed mode since SEED mode heightens the users awareness and reaction times.
Seed pilot fires
Zero pilot dodges and is shown next attack so plans for counter
Seed pilot does as Zero system shows and Zero pilot counters
While Zero is countering Seed pilot quickly reacts and counters the counter
The Zero system cannot compete with the fast analyzing and reaction time of a Seed-Mode pilot. Plus their awareness may even supercede what the Zero system is capable of if Kira's abilities are the eventual progression of all SEED mode pilots.
As for the capabilities of Knight Justice. We don't even have a clue what it or its pack is capable of. Lets wait and see before we condemn it.
THAT'S RIGHT!!!
Nothin beats the Newtype. No Zero, no Seed-thingie ><
and please, Guardian? Kira won't be THE main character of GSD. "a" main character, yes, but sorry, Shinn is the main and nothing's gonna change that.
Shinn > Kira, 100% anyway. God, Seed was so boring to me and that's probably cuz of Kira, to be honest. GSD kicks alotta ass and I'm not saying its cuz of Shinn...but he's better than Kira + GSD got an overall better cast & story.
I'll have to agree with kinggalaxia here. Shinn is better main character material. I like how Shinn is engaging enough to be seen as a main char, yet not fucking overpowered like Kira was throughout Seed. The kind of character Kira is fits a lot better as side character as he is in Destiny.
i dont agree with that kira was overpowered in seed, sure he was strong but not overpowered he got his ass handed to him by the 3 druggies, before asuran came kira couldnt do shit. while he could defend against 4 gundams piloted by coordinators, that was partly wtih mwus and the archangels help. he struggled in the desert and was alsmot beaten by a bunch of baCUE's. if ever being overpowered he is in GSD and that works bad for a side character, i mean they really need to come up with some good shit on how shinn will become equal or anything close to it to kira. super freedom will be even more powerful than freedom correct? so this means also destiny needs to be even stronger than freedom and shinn needs to become a better pilot real quick. i guess they could still have the main character being weaker than a side character but i personally dont like that scenario.
agreed...but we all know it's gonna be Destiny vs. Super Freedom eventually. We'll have to see how that turns out...or even how it begins *grin*
I really hope GSD doesn't begin to hold out the story like Seed did. I got real tired real fast when it got to episode 40somethin and they were still in ORB...and the final battle was rushed. death, death, death...argh. Plus the thing w/ Kira & Cagalli being siblings and Mwu & Rau's relationship....it was too damn rushed.
So here's hoping the sequel REALLY kicks the shit outta the first chapter, since it's already better [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
I wouldn't mind if Kira remained stronger than Shinn, I'm all for shows where the main char doesn't turn out to be all that when it comes to strength.
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