Possible proof about the leader of Akatsuki

[Hatake Kakashi]

Explain the big gap on the left in the eyes (and perhaps the big one covered by the eye lid) then?

Come one let's hear it? Artistic errors, nonsense. They wouldn't have gone to such lenghts to zoom in on the eye and have that big gap if they didn't mean to do it. If you guys can't see it at this point that it's the Sharingan, then I won't bother trying to explain it anymore.

Obito is that guy, if it isn't Obito it's another Uchicha.

As I have said before, I know that it is a greater possibility that Obito will give his eye to Kakashi, especially with all of that stuff about them giving him a gift during the first chapter.

Although I am thinking Kishimoto might be throwing a curve ball here. After all, if a bunch of people in another country figured out where he got his eye so far ahead of time, how surprising would that be? Why are we having this arc then?

[Ryllharu]

Originally posted by: Hatake Kakashi
Explain the big gap on the left in the eyes (and perhaps the big one covered by the eye lid) then?

Come one let's hear it? Artistic errors, nonsense. They wouldn't have gone to such lenghts to zoom in on the eye and have that big gap if they didn't mean to do it. If you guys can't see it at this point that it's the Sharingan, then I won't bother trying to explain it anymore.

It's not "Artistic Errors" its called perspective to provide a visual effect on the eye. The eye would not appear as round without it. And as previously stated, Kurenai's eyes look a lot like that too. It in no way indicates that its a sharingan dot. You've honestly NEVER seen a pupil drawn in anime with any holes or breaks in the iris? I'm not sure how we can get it into your head that this "definitive proof" you've provided is just you looking too deep into a drawing that has no signifigance to the sharingan in any way.

Obito is that guy, if it isn't Obito it's another Uchicha.

There's three Uchihas, Two of whom are accounted for, and the third is most likely dead. IT'S A VISUAL EFFECT ON THE IRIS TO ADD DEPTH AND SHAPE, It is not some foreshadowing plot by kishimoto to show anyone we've seen before.

off topic:

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
wrong. i was being a smartass and an arrogant jerk who didn't worry about the consequences even before i was a mod.

True. And at least you still maintain that today. If only some members had the forethought to think an idea the whole way through before creating a three page rant about shading.

[kyubisrage]

A few comments, We dont know if obito gave kakashi his left eye or his right. It is just assumed he gave kakashi his left eye. Also kakashi being the leader is really stupid. Kakashi wouldnt backstab konoha. Also kakashi played out the fight with itachi? I think not, kakashi wouldnt act it out to the verge of death. Also I dont agree or disagree with the obito theory. I think obito might be it because he might of found out the uchiha secret. But other than that i dont know why he would turn evil. Im kinda leaning on obito not being the leader or apart of it

[kaigan]

H.K, your theory on kakashi as the leader is impossible. If you think about it, the main reason that the akatsuki want naruto is for the kybui and they don't give a damn about konoha (we know this for a fact). wouldn't it be wise if he just kidnap naruto when they were on their first mission and get it over with? if kishimoto made kakashi as the leader of the akatsuki, that would be the worst decision he could've done and will loose lots of naruto fan.

As for the Obito as the leader, that's a another story. The possibilities are out there and as of now, it's really hard to tell if kakshi got the eye from him or not. If kakashi did, then Obito can't be the leader cause the guy that is hanging up side down (assuming to be the leader) has 2 eyes and to me, they don't look like the sharingan at all. but the pic is probably drawn like for a reason. So your Obito theory still got a chance but not the kakashi.

[basey44]

i know this may sound like a dumb question but is there a leader, or is it everyone acting together sort of like a democrasy as they all have a common goal, power. its just i dont recall anyone saying anything abouyt a leader

but if there is a leader it will definately be someone important the konoha characters, but i a seriously doubt it could be obito

[kaigan]

i wouldn't say leader, but probably the person that formed the akatsuki. itachi probably wouldn't like to be under someone's order.

[chidori24]

since no one is taking Hatake Kakashi's side.....i'll be on his team [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]. although his theory is a long shot, i wouldn't count it out. obito being a member or even the leader of the akatsuki would be pretty interesting. since obito did say that he'll "completely crush what the idea of a shinobi is", maybe he really meant it. how else would itachi find out how to get the MS? it has to be from a "bad guy" who knows the secrets of the clan. i dont know about kakashi being the leader though [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img] cuz that would suck. also i guess this gaiden would make more sense if obito becomes the guy from the last page of chapter 238 because not only would kakashi's past be revealed, it would reveal who they are up against now. i doubt the theory but i wont rule it out.

[Hatake Kakashi]

Originally posted by: kaigan
H.K, your theory on kakashi as the leader is impossible. If you think about it, the main reason that the akatsuki want naruto is for the kybui and they don't give a damn about konoha (we know this for a fact). wouldn't it be wise if he just kidnap naruto when they were on their first mission and get it over with? if kishimoto made kakashi as the leader of the akatsuki, that would be the worst decision he could've done and will loose lots of naruto fan.

As for the Obito as the leader, that's a another story. The possibilities are out there and as of now, it's really hard to tell if kakshi got the eye from him or not. If kakashi did, then Obito can't be the leader cause the guy that is hanging up side down (assuming to be the leader) has 2 eyes and to me, they don't look like the sharingan at all. but the pic is probably drawn like for a reason. So your Obito theory still got a chance but not the kakashi.

I know the Kakashi one isn't valid. I don't need people correcting me over it still jeez. And the guy hanging upside down and the guy talking at the end are different. I don't know why Mutt posted that upside down guy, it just confused people even more..*sigh*

I appreciate the few people giving my theory a fair shake though.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Hatake Kakashi
And the guy hanging upside down and the guy talking at the end are different. I don't know why Mutt posted that upside down guy, it just confused people even more..*sigh*

??? what the hell are you talking about. the upside down guy has same eyes as your guy. maybe you shouldn't have posted your theorpic so it doesn't confuse people. my guy has one eye which means he is closer to being obito than your guy with two.

[kaigan]

I think you both posted the picture of the same guy, but mutata's pic is just a another angle which cover one of his eyes.