well i have recently gotten word that final fantasy 12 will be coming out sometime in the first sales quarter of 2005 probably around late febuary.... this is great news to me because although iv only played 5 of the games i love the franchise.... kinda made this for yall to discuss it so please do so.... yeah 11 was a huge disapointment to head off whoevers gunna bitch about that.... and yes the main char. of ff12 looks incredibly gay to head off that one also
Umm.. they need to just up and make a FINAL Fantasy... I love the franchise but it's getting stale real quick.
Supposedly FFXII will revamp the combat system and make it almost FFXI'ish, but I'll reserve my judgement on that until I've played it.
I don't think it's going stale. FFX was a blast to play through and FFXI was apparently a success for Squaresoft.
Star Wars I and II were huge sucesses despite the fact that they were horrid.
Yeah, X was fun and XI was even better, but I doubt I'll play either again (especially since my XI character got deleted.) Classics like IV, VI and VII I can play again and again.
There might yet be room for the series to grow.. Nobuo Uematsu just left Squaresoft to work on his own, and he was the last of the original big names left in FF. There's room for growth all around, they just need to stop rehashing the same crap over and over.
X was terrible.....perhaps even worse than nine. X-2 was much better but many people couldnt look past the fact that you only played 3 women. i hape 12 will be a huge improvment, i havent seen anythign of it thus far..........but star ocean should be here in days with its FF12 thingy on.
i just hope they put the world map back in the game......
EDIT: or it could mean i actually took the time to play all the games anf form my own opinion. X was the biggest PoS RPG i have ever played. i dont want to fight seymour five odd times and hammer him all the time. i dont want to be pushed form area to are without any time to explore, i dont want no world map, i dont want uninteresting citys that are no fun to explore. IX was just very bland, i dont want my choice of characters to be restricted for 90% of the game espeshially when all most all of them had no note worthy qualitys, i like my characters to be interesting, if not interesting i like them to atleast chip in interesting dialouge from time to time. and most important of all i dont like having the rub pulled form under me to revel the final boss is a nothing entity who you have never encountered before and have no feelings for, heck even kuja was WEAK in comparison to other FF bosses.
For me it wasn't the fact that you only controlled 3 women (though I do prefer there to be loads of characters so I can choose the cool ones...especially when yuna sucks so badly! Lulu was the only really cool character from X imo though), it was the fact that it was too cheesy, the end of the game came completely out of the blue (I probably only did about 50-60% of the missions though so that might be why [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]) and the final boss was simply pathetic...whenever the story got going it got ruined by suddenly going dead cheesy again, and personally I didn't like the dress-sphere system.Originally posted by: chambers
X was terrible.....perhaps even worse than nine. X-2 was much better but many people couldnt look past the fact that you only played 3 women. i hape 12 will be a huge improvment, i havent seen anythign of it thus far..........but star ocean should be here in days with its FF12 thingy on.
i just hope they put the world map back in the game......
...thats just based on what I'm into though...
Like Lefty just said though - it was good enough for me to play all the way through (and I struggle to stay interested in a lot of games), but I agree that they should put the world map back in...sadly I think that might be gone for good...
I just hope it has a good (enough) story, I'm not liking the character design too much from what little I've seen, the main character looks especially crap, but it'll no doubt be cool enough to play...hopefully there'll be a cool bad guy along the lines of Sephiroth, Kuja or Kefka (Seymour did my head in).
Edit ^ - its definitely gonna be the last proper FF game on PS2, I would have thought they'd continue on the PS3 though (at least they better!). As for my favourite I gotta say its 7 by a mile, just because I think the story is better IMO than the others I've played (6-X plus X-2)...plus the fact it was the first one I played and also changed the way I thought about games at the time probably has something to do with it too [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
The fact that you think X-2 was good, and that IX and X were bad, pretty much seals the deal that IX and X are brilliant masterpieces and that X-2 is dogshit.
Even though ff7 is my favorite, im not sure if moving away from 4 member tems and removing the class system was a good idea. each progressive game is less and less like the original final fantasy, and not just graphically, but in game play and story as well...
the original game was sprite one tell the four sprites of light to go rescue his sprite daughter, from the sprite bad guy. from there, you just kinda guess and hope your playing right. and it was truly a difficlut game. i think the recent complexity of the series will ultimately bring it down.
btw, anyone notice that ff9 was really a direct sequel to the original? they don't say it, but its all there.
Lets get something straight. Squaresoft is dead. Its Square-Enix. Enix owns Square, there was no equal merger. Squaresoft took a 130 million dollar bullet to the temple, in the form of Final Fantasy The Movie.
The days of the old games are gone, so there is no sense in complaining or comparing them to the new games that come out.
I want to play these new games, dont get me wrong. Who knows they may actually come out with a good game someday.
"Chrono is our Religion. In the name of the Chrono, the Zeal, the Trigger and Cross, Amen."
Wow nicely put did you learn that from Trent?Originally posted by: Haku_san
Squaresoft took a 130 million dollar bullet to the temple, in the form of Final Fantasy The Movie.
I think FF12 will suck major balls.
FF7 was the greatest.
yeah theres lots of theories floating rouns with reguards to that. aprently a guy who had a hand in creating the story see is tomthing like FF--->FF7--->FF9
Good lord people. You need to stop fucking comparing FF games to one another. I remeber whne people were bitching and complaing about them making FF7 & 9 and those games were fucking awsome. 8 & 10 were needed to progress the graphics and battle systems to a better level, and in their own right were very good games. I love all the FF games. Your trying to make all of these games fit a specific mold when the whole point of the series is change if you really wnat oto nit pic you could say all the games are trite and over done. All the stories are the same Unsupecting guy meets girl in trouble, guy helps girl and finds out that a big mean bad guy is going to either A. take over the world or B. destroy it. Guy defeats bad guy after long a taxing journy. THE END. wow thye really know how to break the mold when it comes to story telling. Every new game runs the risk of sucking but has any FF game sucked so bad that you couldn't play it and enjoy it to some degree. No. They're all entertaining to play. Give 12 a chance. Give all the FF games a chance.
i dont see why a ton of people thought ff7 was the greatest. the battle system was weak, every character could summon, use magic etc. the only thing that differed them was the limit breaks.
ffX had THE best battle system, where as every character had their own unique ability.
Thank you for saying that, b/c thats exactly how I feel, I've said this before here but I'm only getting the Advent children thing b/c of the graphics, I care about the actual story as much as I care about a spec of dust. and plus ffx had a much more enjoyable atmosphereOriginally posted by: Mr.X
i dont see why a ton of people thought ff7 was the greatest. the battle system was weak, every character could summon, use magic etc. the only thing that differed them was the limit breaks.
ffX had THE best battle system, where as every character had their own unique ability.
R.I.P Captain America.
Originally posted by: Knives122
Thank you for saying that, b/c thats exactly how I feel, I've said this before here but I'm only getting the Advent children thing b/c of the graphics, I care about the actual story as much as I care about a spec of dust. and plus ffx had a much more enjoyable atmosphereOriginally posted by: Mr.X
i dont see why a ton of people thought ff7 was the greatest. the battle system was weak, every character could summon, use magic etc. the only thing that differed them was the limit breaks.
ffX had THE best battle system, where as every character had their own unique ability.
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Wow. You're an Idiot. God, dont even post if your gonna make such a dumb fuck comment.
Edit: Just to make it clear. Its your reason to watch ff7 advent children that makes me say this.
"Chrono is our Religion. In the name of the Chrono, the Zeal, the Trigger and Cross, Amen."
yeah knives122, don't say such a thing, alot of us here(including me) has been waiting for a hell long time for the movie to be released. don't say that you don't care at all for the story line. if you don't care then seriously don't bother watching. A person like you watching Advent Children=You disgracing the movie.Originally posted by: Haku_san
Originally posted by: Knives122
Thank you for saying that, b/c thats exactly how I feel, I've said this before here but I'm only getting the Advent children thing b/c of the graphics, I care about the actual story as much as I care about a spec of dust. and plus ffx had a much more enjoyable atmosphereOriginally posted by: Mr.X
i dont see why a ton of people thought ff7 was the greatest. the battle system was weak, every character could summon, use magic etc. the only thing that differed them was the limit breaks.
ffX had THE best battle system, where as every character had their own unique ability.
...
Wow. You're an Idiot. God, dont even post if your gonna make such a dumb fuck comment.
Edit: Just to make it clear. Its your reason to watch ff7 advent children that makes me say this.
i dont see why a ton of people thought ff7 was the greatest. the battle system was weak, every character could summon, use magic etc. the only thing that differed them was the limit breaks.
ffX had THE best battle system, where as every character had their own unique ability.
umm i saw this posted earlier and didnt even bother to read the rest ill get back to that in a second but ummm..... guy/girl your a dumbass your pointing out something wrong with the others and holding up the same thing in another as great.... the only differencees in 10 were the summons for yuna and the overdrives basically..... you can theoreticly if you have a lot of spare time get every godamn move in the game other then those i think..... at least my auron knows evertyhting tidus and wakka do and vice versa.... i just thought that was really really fucking dumb.... oh and yeah it might just be me because iv been known to miss the very obvious.... stepping off the soapbox now....
alright went through the rest and yes the main character in 12 looks incredibly gay the pic i saw of him was him in like a bondage outfit or some shit..... maybe if they get him some cool clothes and auron was imo the sweetest char. yes ff10 got really easy cause all my chars except that dipshit usesless kimahri who was a failure as a blue mage or maybe i just didnt make him right but i hate him.... they made it incredibly easy to max chars in the late game but early on i had trouble like with that bitch yunalesca because i was still really new to the games and had no idea what the fuck i was doing.... and for those wondering why ihad no idea what i was doing its cause i started at 10 then went to 7 then 8 then 10-2 then 11 and now im working on 1 and 2....
FFX had the WORST battle system, could they possible come up with a way to make the game any easier?! It made the battles dull, "Oh look! A flier and a slime, let's just switch in Wakka and Lulu!" Battle over 3 seconds later. Wow, talk about a dull battle system.Originally posted by: Knives122
Thank you for saying that, b/c thats exactly how I feel, I've said this before here but I'm only getting the Advent children thing b/c of the graphics, I care about the actual story as much as I care about a spec of dust. and plus ffx had a much more enjoyable atmosphereOriginally posted by: Mr.X
i dont see why a ton of people thought ff7 was the greatest. the battle system was weak, every character could summon, use magic etc. the only thing that differed them was the limit breaks.
ffX had THE best battle system, where as every character had their own unique ability.
Back on track with FFXII, I think it'll be great. Why, you ask? Yasumi Matsuno is heading the development. He's the mastermind behing FFTactics, one of the best FF games there is. I think there is a good chance it'll become my second favorite FF game (nothing will ever topple FF7 from its place in my heart).
As for the franchise in general, there is no reason to stop the FF series. The games are unrelated to each other (except for crappy X-2). They happen on different worlds, with the only reaccuring things being certain creatures or character classes. The series would go stale if it was game after game with the same characters, but we get a new, unique adventure everytime.
It wasnt horrid, imo. The battle grid system was a unique idea that had its flaws.Originally posted by: hopeknight
FFX had the WORST battle system, could they possible come up with a way to make the game any easier?! It made the battles dull, "Oh look! A flier and a slime, let's just switch in Wakka and Lulu!" Battle over 3 seconds later. Wow, talk about a dull battle system.
Tidus, Auron, and of all people, Yuna, were my strongest.
*imagines Yuna swinging staff at final boos for max damage* good times...
hasnt anybody here played a Final Fantasy game that <u>wasnt</u> on a playstation? lets go back to the good ol' days of Final Fantasy 1-3 (2 was my favorite)
i actually heard ffxii is going to be the last ff. well rumors are rumors. they'll probably make a ffxiii if ffxii did well...lol
i'm actually excited for ffxii.
I tried my best...
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