Naruto Special: 110-111 Discussion

[NM]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command

Originally posted by: Saruto
hahhaa ...ok! ..yes...your true....youy didnt even see the others technique and your saying this haha...

Don't spoil so blatantly.

That's not a spoiler. How am I supposed to spoil if I don't read the manga? It rather looks like you just spoiled it for me and everyone else...

Of course rasengan is more powerful than whatever technique the other guys might have learned. Those guys aren't capable of learning such advanced combat techniques, period.

You can't say that none of the other Genin's cant learn the Rasengan (or other advanced ninjutsu). If you say that, then thats saying that genius ninja's like Sasuke or Neji (or practically any other ninja out there) will never be able to master techniques of that level. Sure, Jiraiya did say its the second hardest technique to master but that doesnt mean its impossible for other ninja's. He chose Naruto because something about Naruto caught his eye and thats his desire to never give up. But he could have easily picked another ninja.

[Board of Command]

Neji: more of a taijutsu user, so he's natually poor at advanced chakra manipulation (not just rasengan, but all the other strong techniques)
Chouji: can't kill a fly
Shika: more of a strategist than a fighter
Kiba: again, not really a ninjutsu user

I was referring *ONLY* to Shika's group

[Aeon]

Neji: more of a taijutsu user, so he's natually poor at advanced chakra manipulation (not just rasengan, but all the other strong techniques)

If turning chakra into a rotating force field isn't maniputive then I dunno what is. And also since when does knowing strong taijutsu make you weak in other area's?

[Terracosmo]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
Neji: more of a taijutsu user, so he's natually poor at advanced chakra manipulation (not just rasengan, but all the other strong techniques)
Chouji: can't kill a fly
Shika: more of a strategist than a fighter
Kiba: again, not really a ninjutsu user

I was referring *ONLY* to Shika's group

WTF? Neji bad at chakra manipulation?
Kiba not a ninjutsu user?
So what if Shikamaru is a strategist that doesn't mean he can't learn techniques.

Speaking of bad chakra manipulation notice that Naruto has to cheat his way to rasengan by using a shadow clone simultaneously. Damn nowadays it feels like people just make stuff up for fun.

[Board of Command]

He's strong in taijutsu because he mainly focuses on training taijutsu which makes him weaker in other areas such as ninjutsu. Up to this point we haven't even seen him use a single ninjutsu technique.

[Mut]

chakra manipulation/control is what neji excels at more than ANYONE we've seen.

[miaka]

it doesn't matter what they are bad at.. didn't we learn from naruto becoming a master(well kinda) of bushin when that was the one that he just really sucked at? it's just your strong will (of course being genius on top of that helps too) that help you...

and did we forget that neji mastered something that only high branch adult from hyuuga can master?

hmm.. and uh.. kiba not being ninjutsu user?hmm.. i don't think so.. and let see what is strategy used for? fighting.. and it's not like shika don't have any attacks..

[Knives122]

After 6 billion hours of waiting(and opening a few ports) I finally got to watch this episode, not bad the whole scarry camera moving thing at the beginning and when Tsunade was thinking of Oro was cool, That toothpick deflecting the kunai was cool(but not that great). Sort of boring but not a let down at all, the next ep will certainly be better

[jing]

The took pick thing was the best thing that every happened in Naruto.

[tensai]

haha, that tooth pick thing was pretty cool, but somewhat unrealistic

his mouth muscle must be really strong to be able to blow that pick as hard as the dude throwing the kunai

each character has their own characteristics, but that doesnt mean that they suck or cant do something because they havent shown them yet

[jing]

Originally posted by: tensai
haha, that tooth pick thing was pretty cool, but somewhat unrealistic

his mouth muscle must be really strong to be able to blow that pick as hard as the dude throwing the kunai

each character has their own characteristics, but that doesnt mean that they suck or cant do something because they havent shown them yet

Um I think the tooth pick thing was more real than anything in Naruto.

[Knives122]

sorry but no it wasn't, the most realistic thing was Naruto almost stepping on that invisible wire(any one would do it if they weren't really paying attention)

[wirm]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
He's strong in taijutsu because he mainly focuses on training taijutsu which makes him weaker in other areas such as ninjutsu. Up to this point we haven't even seen him use a single ninjutsu technique.

If rasengan is ninjutsu, then so is kaiten.

According to Tenten, because of his mastery in the gentle fist technique, Neji's chakra manipulation surpasses that of most jounin.

[Cyrano]

Haha, people actually think that Jing is serious [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[Assertn]

im not sure if rasengan is considered a jutsu or not, since it doesnt actually involve hand seals, its just a ball of chakra, but if it is, then its ninjutsu

i wonder if the 64 hands of hakke and gentle fist actually fall into ninjutsu though.....it seems in the naruto world, alot of things that involve hand combat go into taijutsu regardless of the manner in which chakra is involved

[Board of Command]

My point is, there isn't much new for Neji or the other guys to learn. Neji trains solely in the Hyuuga style, so the most he can do is improve upon that. Kiba will undoubtfully make some new move based on an Akamaru combo, but there's only a limit to how effective that can be.

And there really is no argument for Shika here. He's just not the badass fighter some of you take him for. Good combat strategy has nothing to do with learning new techniques, which is the argument on hand.

[fremeer]

just a quick guess on the techniques
shika will learn that shadow thing that strangles you.(daddy used it in fight against sand)
chouji will probably learn the make myself bigger thing.(same as shika)
neji will have something to do with his byuukan and its sight...remember when he says there were like 7 birds and he only counted 6.
naruto will be useless because he wont fight till its either the strongest guy or sasuke(it is jump after all)
and kiba will butt hump his dog and use it as a rocket for all i care.

and thats my 2cents people. btw i doubt any1 will die unless its like to save some1's life. and if they do they will somehow come back to life. damn you jump for having anime with the same storyline.

[ll Ec|iPsE ll]

Originally posted by: fremeer
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and kiba will butt hump his dog and use it as a rocket for all i care.

acctualy kiba is stonrg at finding things

[Assertn]

wtf does jump have to do with any of that?

[wirm]

I don't know what jump is, so I won't comment on that.

As for there being nothing new for Neji to learn, that's a bit short sighted. There is always something more to learn. I seriously doubt that the Hyuuga clan is limited to only 2 jutsus. It would be interesting to see any byakugan related genjutsu (like Itachi's sharingan). But then again, the bloodline limits are very different, so any technique would probably be different.



Also, I said before that rasengan is ninjutsu. This is because Jiraiya specifically said it was in one of the previous episodes. I can't remember which ep it was though.