I listen to the Pillows which I would say are one of the better bands to come out of Japan. Japan X reminds too much of dilluted 80's rock but thats my opinion.
I listen to the Pillows which I would say are one of the better bands to come out of Japan. Japan X reminds too much of dilluted 80's rock but thats my opinion.
The Pillows, they did the FLCL ending, right? Yeah, they're pretty good.
NORMALLY quite soft yes. But not always.Originally posted by: Harakiri
Personally, i wouldn't find J-Rock hard. It's normally quite soft, melodic, and plus the bands live on the two uppermost guitar strings. Anything based around high pitch will have trouble being considered heavy.
Also, they wouldn't be recognised as heavy music artists in the Western world, because they're so image-based. That's not what Western rock is about, traditionally. Hell, it's the opposite.
I doubt Dir En Grey will get any moshpits - i have no problem with cross-dressers - but i won't mosh to a bunch of pretty boys dressed like chicks.
They wouldn't be considered heavy music? Dir is about as heavy, in fact, mostly heavier than X-Japan which is considered a heavy metal band in the Western world. Dir en Grey doesn't get moshpits? Download a live video. Sounds like you didn't even hear the band to me.
Finally I've been listenening to metal since I learned to walk so I think I know what I'm talking about.
I've been listening to metal starting with bands like Sepultura since I was eleven, and since then i've moved throughout metal, grindcore, power metal, etc, and I currently listen to Aborted, Machine Head, Megadeth and Alice in Chains.
An example of Dir En Grey not sounding like 'heavy metal' to me is Cage, or Yokan. Those tracks in particular are flat out pop music. Although some bands can move through being heavy and being softer - example, Alice in Chains, who mix depressed ballads with aggressive metal - Dir En Grey can't cover the two poles of extremity, those being Heavy metal and idol pop.
You're right, i haven't seen a live video, but songs like Yokan, Cage, Aoi Tsuki[sp?] just don't sound like the kinda stuff i'd mosh to. I'd mosh to Machine Head, Anal Cunt, Aborted, Deicide, and refused.
Didn't hear those songs. I'm relatively new to the world of Dir but it's a possability that they've changed their style throughout the times, Kisou is a heavy album.
The bands you like are almost all on the extreme metal side, so given that fact I can understand that you don't see Dir as a heavy band at all.
The songs i mentioned, although not heavy, are still fantastic songs. Cage and Yokan are two of my favourite songs!
But certainly, some songs are quite heavy. Mr Newsman and Umbrella were pretty heavy.
Cage is ace, mainly cos I like playing it on bass [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img].Originally posted by: Harakiri
An example of Dir En Grey not sounding like 'heavy metal' to me is Cage, or Yokan. Those tracks in particular are flat out pop music. Although some bands can move through being heavy and being softer - example, Alice in Chains, who mix depressed ballads with aggressive metal - Dir En Grey can't cover the two poles of extremity, those being Heavy metal and idol pop.
As for heavier songs (while hardly being death metal they are still pretty agressive) try:
Obscure (a screenshot of which is in my avatar) - pretty simple but cool song and a well good video
Hydra (I only discovered this recently but it fucking rules - especially the new live DVD version)
Zan
Pink Killer (cool screaming)
Saku - the video for this is amazing and its got a cool epic chorus
Child Prey - kinda punky but it also has a cool pretty heavy roaring bit
The III D Empire
Ugly
I'll leave it there...
etc
They're not really heavy metal but IMO they can definitely dish out heavier stuff on occasion...for me the wide ranges in their music was one of the biggest draw factors for me...plus Kyo's got a cool scream [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img].
Can't wait till the DVD finishes downloading...
Got tickets to see the Mad Capsule Markets live (in Sheffield cos they're not playing Manchester [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]) which is gonna be fucking well good...
My favorite is L'Arc en~ciel. They have been around for awhile. I went to the Otakon where they were playing...... I have never in my life seen some many fan-girls that ripped each others eyes out to get Hyde's waterbottle ....... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
I was hoping to get Capsules tickets for, i think it was London, where they were playing. However, i figure that's too far for one concert - I live in South West England. Furthest i went lately was Exeter, to the Lemon Grove for 36 Crazyfists.
I agree with you there Swallow Your Soul they truly play a varied range of music. Pink Killer has certain death elements in it while of course not being true death metal can mislead some people with the blast beats, there are even industrial touches in their music (not necessarily industrial metal though). If I was forced to catagorize Dir en grey I'd call them a heavy rockband with a wide array of random elements. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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im really into rock but i've never heard jrock. can somebody tell me where can i find some?
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just started to listen to X Japan i must say they got some of the most furious drumming i've ever heard the tempo is awesome and the guitars at that. i have so far only heard 2 songs, Kurenai and Silent Jealosy but man thats some great pieces of art. i call it art becuase it truely is an art to create music like this.
DIR EN GREY!!!! DIR EN GREY!!!!!
i watched an interview and i just love how they don't exactly fit. then they started to talk about their hair.
I tried my best...
oh yea finally listened through all of X Japans work and its breathtaking, i mean Art of Life 29 fucking minutes long and they pull it off like it was nothing its awesome. and the remade tracks on Rose and Blood are awesome to. they have so many great songs its crazy. i mena songs like joker, desperate angel, i'll kill you. just awesome.
i've listened to some j-rock on random internet radio stations and from anime osts. i liked a lot of the j-rock as much as i like the bands here in the u.s. i'd only wish i knew where to find out about some more bands. anyone have any good j-rock websites that are in enlgish? please post them!
anybody know of anyother bittorent site for J-Rock. I'm trying to find songs for a band call The petebest, if you know of anyplaces I would be thankful.
Okay I've renamed this thread so now we can use this as a full j-music discussion.
I'll get the ball rolling by saying that Ayumi Hamasaki's new single is out and you all NEED it. so go DL it right now!
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