Temari wouldn't have fought Naruto, Temari was scared to death of Gaara, do you honestly think she'd step into a fight with anyone that managed to beat Gaara in a fight?
Temari wouldn't have fought Naruto, Temari was scared to death of Gaara, do you honestly think she'd step into a fight with anyone that managed to beat Gaara in a fight?
She was scared of SHUKAKU, not Gaara, per se. Hell, I still have NIGHTMARES about Tanuki...
The fights went like this:
Naruto vs. Neji -> Naruto (knockout)
Sasuke vs. Gaara -> Sasuke (as pointed out, Gaara needed time to recover)
Shino vs. Kankuro -> Shino (forfeit)
Temari vs. Shikamaru -> Temari (forfeit)
From there it's all conjecture.
Naruto vs. Sasuke -> Sasuke wouldn't be able to use his Chidori without killing Naruto, and he's just used his speed boost, so he's low on stamina. On the grounds of useful techniques (Kagebunshin > Konoha flame), stamina, and willpower, winner: Naruto.
Temari vs. Shino -> Shino would have all the upper hand of knowledge. He's gotten to see Temari in action twice, one of which was a drawn out fight. Temari has only seen him once, in which he essentially stood there. While Temari may be good at thinking on her feet, Shino seems to plan the entire battle out before the first punch is thrown. Winner: Shino.
Shino vs. Naruto -> Honestly, I think this would be one of the greatest fights in the series. On the one hand, Naruto's biggest advantage going into most fights is that his opponent invariably underestimates him. Shino, however, goes all out against anyone. The big challenge would be to see whether Shino has enough bugs to eat all of Naruto and Kyubi-Naruto's chakra. That, and as pointed out, Naruto refuses to stay down. And, he's the main character. Winner: Naruto.
Regardless, though, he'd still be a genin. His willingness to take it to the last breath doesn't exhibit good leadership qualities, since they'd have to worry if he'd sacrifice a team with the same mindset. =P
shippou-sama, i think you bring too much intelligence to this forum. your in depth, well researched answers just pwn.
.... OK ... WOW. Thats interesting. Though I thought Sasuke it would be probably cool to watch Sasuke kill Naruto with chidori (not being sick or evil, just saying it would be soooooooooo cool to watch him barrying that in someone.) Other then that ... damn thats insightfull. Btw, which episode is the Garaa and Sasuke fight? besides the one running around outside in the woods. I mean the one during the exam, I never saw it I think, either that or I totally forgot about it(doubtfull... most likely accidently skipped the episode -> runs to the shadows and hides)
Sasuke wouldn't be able to hit Naruto with chidori because Naruto is too good with bunshin and replacement to get hit by a genin. Naruto would find a way to beat Sharingan, and by the time he goes on the offense, Sasuke will be all worn out from using Sharingan to detect the clones.
At the time of the tourney Sasuke might have stood a chance against Naruto, but where we are right now, Sasuke has no chance at all. Naruto's chakra control is far superior and his stamina alone owns Sasuke.
actually it is being sick and evil wanting to see sasuke killing naruto with the chidori
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Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
Sasuke wouldn't be able to hit Naruto with chidori because Naruto is too good with bunshin and replacement to get hit by a genin. Naruto would find a way to beat Sharingan, and by the time he goes on the offense, Sasuke will be all worn out from using Sharingan to detect the clones.
At the time of the tourney Sasuke might have stood a chance against Naruto, but where we are right now, Sasuke has no chance at all. Naruto's chakra control is far superior and his stamina alone owns Sasuke.
Naruto would get hit plenty. From what I've seen, the real Naruto is almost always the first one to jump in to fight anyway. Also, Naruto very rarely uses the replacement technique. I can only recall him using it once, and he wasn't even fighting real ninjas.
Let's not get into the whole "chidori is useless because Naruto can just dodge it" issue. Can you recall any time in the anime where Naruto actually dodged anything? He always takes the hits, even the ones that should have killed him. He's too slow and clumsy to dodge.
As for using sharingan to detect the clones, Sasuke knows better than that. As was stated with the Neji fight, kage bunshin equally distributes chakra among clones, so even the byakugan cannot tell which is the original. If byakugan can't do it, then sharingan sure as hell can't.
I would be pretty surprised if Sasuke used his sharingan at all against Naruto. He didn't need it until Gaara went into his shell, so he likely wouldn't need it against Naruto.
good theory.. but naruto will prob be a chuunin if others do.. cause if he doesn't.. we would have to see another long episodes of chuunin testOriginally posted by: Shippou-sama
The fights went like this:
Naruto vs. Neji -> Naruto (knockout)
Sasuke vs. Gaara -> Sasuke (as pointed out, Gaara needed time to recover)
Shino vs. Kankuro -> Shino (forfeit)
Temari vs. Shikamaru -> Temari (forfeit)
From there it's all conjecture.
Naruto vs. Sasuke -> Sasuke wouldn't be able to use his Chidori without killing Naruto, and he's just used his speed boost, so he's low on stamina. On the grounds of useful techniques (Kagebunshin > Konoha flame), stamina, and willpower, winner: Naruto.
Temari vs. Shino -> Shino would have all the upper hand of knowledge. He's gotten to see Temari in action twice, one of which was a drawn out fight. Temari has only seen him once, in which he essentially stood there. While Temari may be good at thinking on her feet, Shino seems to plan the entire battle out before the first punch is thrown. Winner: Shino.
Shino vs. Naruto -> Honestly, I think this would be one of the greatest fights in the series. On the one hand, Naruto's biggest advantage going into most fights is that his opponent invariably underestimates him. Shino, however, goes all out against anyone. The big challenge would be to see whether Shino has enough bugs to eat all of Naruto and Kyubi-Naruto's chakra. That, and as pointed out, Naruto refuses to stay down. And, he's the main character. Winner: Naruto.
Regardless, though, he'd still be a genin. His willingness to take it to the last breath doesn't exhibit good leadership qualities, since they'd have to worry if he'd sacrifice a team with the same mindset. =P
Hmm. Well, after some consideration, I think Sasuke would more than likely use his Sharingan against Naruto. As stated, he wouldn't be able to tell real from false, but he tends to use it more for awareness and reaction speed than anything. As I said, I doubt that Sasuke would be willing to use the Chidori against Naruto in the Chuunin exam. For one, if Naruto dies, then Sasuke is automatically disqualified. For another, Sasuke may not like him, but he certainly doesn't want Naruto dead.I think Sasuke would put up an impressive fight, but it would be a matter of Stamina and willpower, two areas that Naruto excells at.
This is assuming that Naruto doesn't have to draw on Kyubi. If he did, the fight is over instantly with no disputes. =P
Oh yeah, of those who made it to the finals, I think Shino and Shikamaru would be strong candidates for Chuunin. Sasuke is a possibility, but unlikely.
Question: why would Sasuke be disqualified for killing Naruto? Rules state that there are no rules, so killing counts.Originally posted by: Shippou-sama
Hmm. Well, after some consideration, I think Sasuke would more than likely use his Sharingan against Naruto. As stated, he wouldn't be able to tell real from false, but he tends to use it more for awareness and reaction speed than anything. As I said, I doubt that Sasuke would be willing to use the Chidori against Naruto in the Chuunin exam. For one, if Naruto dies, then Sasuke is automatically disqualified. For another, Sasuke may not like him, but he certainly doesn't want Naruto dead.I think Sasuke would put up an impressive fight, but it would be a matter of Stamina and willpower, two areas that Naruto excells at.
except for the fact that if shippou's speaking in a hypothetical sense in reference to the main matches taking place with no war to interrupt it, then he is forgetting that kankuro would never have forfeited his match. Forfeiting the match was directly due to the plans for their surprise attack, and therefore to view the unnoficial matchup between kankuro and shino in the woods as the actual "no holds barred" battle between the two, then the result would beOriginally posted by: KaneInferno
shippou-sama, i think you bring too much intelligence to this forum. your in depth, well researched answers just pwn.
shino vs kankuro -> neither (double KO)
of course, the loss of shino in this match complicates all of shippou's conjectures [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
thats what i wouldve thought too....but then when sakura lost in the prelims....well it sorta complicated mattersOriginally posted by: miaka
good theory.. but naruto will prob be a chuunin if others do.. cause if he doesn't.. we would have to see another long episodes of chuunin test
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it woul be cool if after an arc finishes they jump a year or so and then just be in the final tournament
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Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
Sasuke wouldn't be able to hit Naruto with chidori because Naruto is too good with bunshin and replacement to get hit by a genin. Naruto would find a way to beat Sharingan, and by the time he goes on the offense, Sasuke will be all worn out from using Sharingan to detect the clones.
At the time of the tourney Sasuke might have stood a chance against Naruto, but where we are right now, Sasuke has no chance at all. Naruto's chakra control is far superior and his stamina alone owns Sasuke.
Naruto would get hit plenty. From what I've seen, the real Naruto is almost always the first one to jump in to fight anyway. Also, Naruto very rarely uses the replacement technique. I can only recall him using it once, and he wasn't even fighting real ninjas.
Let's not get into the whole "chidori is useless because Naruto can just dodge it" issue. Can you recall any time in the anime where Naruto actually dodged anything? He always takes the hits, even the ones that should have killed him. He's too slow and clumsy to dodge.
As for using sharingan to detect the clones, Sasuke knows better than that. As was stated with the Neji fight, kage bunshin equally distributes chakra among clones, so even the byakugan cannot tell which is the original. If byakugan can't do it, then sharingan sure as hell can't.
I would be pretty surprised if Sasuke used his sharingan at all against Naruto. He didn't need it until Gaara went into his shell, so he likely wouldn't need it against Naruto.WTF are you guys on about? it's already been a given that the sharingan can detect which of them is real, because it doesnt check how much chakra is inside the body, but whether the body is made of chakra or not. Consider the second exam, where the hidden rain ninjas used clones, and the sharingan could see they were fake bodies. also consider the itachi and kisame vs kurenai, asuma and kakashi fight. kakashis sharingan could tell which of the two itachis were fake (and im quite sure it was a kagebunshin).Originally posted by: Shippou-sama
Hmm. Well, after some consideration, I think Sasuke would more than likely use his Sharingan against Naruto. As stated, he wouldn't be able to tell real from false, but he tends to use it more for awareness and reaction speed than anything. As I said, I doubt that Sasuke would be willing to use the Chidori against Naruto in the Chuunin exam. For one, if Naruto dies, then Sasuke is automatically disqualified. For another, Sasuke may not like him, but he certainly doesn't want Naruto dead.I think Sasuke would put up an impressive fight, but it would be a matter of Stamina and willpower, two areas that Naruto excells at.
This is assuming that Naruto doesn't have to draw on Kyubi. If he did, the fight is over instantly with no disputes. =P
Oh yeah, of those who made it to the finals, I think Shino and Shikamaru would be strong candidates for Chuunin. Sasuke is a possibility, but unlikely.
hmm even they never said anything yet.... . even byakugan couldn't tell which was real him.. and it is supposed to be advanced version of sharingon... so i think sasuke won't be able to tell which one is naruto
kage bunshin is different than regualr bushin btw
well one thing is to have a clone that is a fake and another thing is to do what Naruto does... if not mistaken he multiplies and divides his chakra among all the bodies... so in a sense they are all real... I could be wrong though
i think we probably will findout who becomes a chuunin the process has been slowed down though cos of filler episodes.
there is a very good reason why kage bunshin is considered jounin-level while normal bunshins are required of (almost) every academy graduate.
Kage bunshin creates real bodies, each of them equal. It also requires an ungodly amount of chakra to use it to its full potential. Even the 3rd Hokage was hesitant to use it until the very end.
And as miaka (and Kakashi) said, byakugan surpasses sharingan in insight. If byakugan can't tell which is real, you can bet your bottom dollar that sharingan can't either.
The reason Sasuke used his sharingan to detect the rain ninja clones was because they were not kage bunshin, but illusion clones. Those are not real bodies, but just illusion with no substance.
I agree that Sasuke would not be eager to kill Naruto with chidori, but since Oro keeps harping on how Sasuke will do anything to kill his brother (avenger, and whatnot), he can get over it. Though truth be told, I don't think chidori is necessary when he can run circles around Naruto and just beat him down the way Rock Lee beat him earlier. I don't remember which episode it was, but I do remember that it was a 1-hit KO.
As for using the sharingan against Naruto, that's debateable. I don't think it would be necessary, because Sasuke's already so much faster. Then again, you never know.
If Naruto busted out Kyuubi, then yes, I think he'd win. But it would still be a cool fight. Remember, with Kyuubi's chakra, he was still just even with Neji. In fact, he almost lost, and had to win through trickery.
I'm guessing that Sasuke is faster than Neji, so it would be interesting to see.
Assertn: I was actually referring to "What if the war hadn't interrupted the fight?" rather than "What if they hadn't gone to war?" If they hadn't gone to war, then Kankuro, Gaara, and Temari would likely have been Chuunin already, as there would have been no reason to wait a year. Orochimaru would never have been involved, meaning the only real competitors would be the 9 rookies, the 3 older konoha, and the hidden rain guys. In that case, we have to question who would even make it to the final 10. Since it's impossible to tell who would be matched with who, then you can't really continue.
However, if you want to be technical, you can't view the wilderness match as the "official" match either. Had Shikamaru faced Temari in the wilderness, he would have won easily, so you have to consider a match between Shino and Kankuro in the actual arena.
This is a fair bit harder, frankly. There are two basic directions it could go. Either 1) they both hide in the trees and try to out-sneak attack each other, in which case Shino would more than likely win (advantage of bug scouts), or 2) they both decide for an open battle. Since neither of them seem terribly prone to such a rash plan as running after an enemy in hiding, I feel comfortable ignoring the chance that one of them would hide and the other would search.
Since there isn't much to discuss about 1, the real question comes into option 2.
In an open battlefield, it's much harder for kankuro to avoid the bugs. Since Shino wouldn't have to find him, he could ignore the step of placing a female on him. However, Shino would also have to deal with the puppet more directly, but would have less to worry about from the poison gas (much easier to avoid in an open area). While I can admit this would be an equally interesting bout, it's difficult to say exactly who would win. IF I had to name a winner, I would say probably Shino. He's a capable fighter, thinks ahead, and is difficult to read.
As for the other comments:
Sharingan:
1) Sasuke does not have fully developed Sharingan, and since they have not told us directly, then we don't know the exact limitations of them.
2) We do not know for sure if the Sharingan can tell the difference between Kage Bunshin and normal people, but they have never told us that it can.
3) Kage Bunshin creates real bodies.
Based on these, I would say that Sasuke probably cannot tell the difference, but might.
Naruto vs. Sasuke -> I'm sorry, I was wrong, you can kill your opponent. It seems odd, but regardless, it makes no difference. Sasuke would not be willing to kill Naruto at that point in the series. The rules change nothing, sorry. Also, whether Sasuke can tell the difference or not doesn't make much difference either. He will still have to deal with them, and unlike Neji, he doesn't have a solid defense.
*EDIT* @ wirm: Sasuke can't use that speed often or for long. Even if he did use it, it would not win the fight. Sasuke was able to land many hits on Gaara (presumably without the sand armor), and even Gaara was able to withstand it. Knowing Naruto's capacity for punishment, I would consider it a safe assumption that Sasuke would not in fact be able to win purely in the time he would have that speed. After that, as I've mentioned their fairly equal. And no, he would not be willing to kill him. He's not in his crazy/depressed/rage phase yet. After the Naruto/Gaara fight in the woods, maybe, but only maybe.
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