DUDE, HINATA'S NOT EVEN WORTH ARUGING ABOUT, just forget about it jeez
START TALKING ABOUT THE BIG GUYS.
its time for the ultimate team:
kabuto, kakashi, gai sensei, sephiroth
DUDE, HINATA'S NOT EVEN WORTH ARUGING ABOUT, just forget about it jeez
START TALKING ABOUT THE BIG GUYS.
its time for the ultimate team:
kabuto, kakashi, gai sensei, sephiroth
you seem to be mistaken, jiraiya is a jounin. sannin is only a title given to him, orochimaru and tsunade. the ideal team would be jiraiya, sasuke, neji, and naruto.Originally posted by: Shippou-sama
I can argue that Jiraiya is not a Jounin. Even if he is somehow technically a Jounin for some reason that I have missed (I assume Sannin is both a rank and a title), he is still massively unbalanced, and it has been stated a number of times throughout the thread that Itachi, the 3 Sannin, and any Hokages are not included. Otherwise the team would be Itachi, Orochimaru, Tsunade, Sarutobi, and they destroy everything in their path.
and don't even talk about imbalance with jiraiya, he is a jounin and fits all the criteria to be one and in your 'perfect team.' if you exclude him out then we should exclude some of the genins who are 'massively unbalanced' like naruto and gaara.
sephiroth...lol. he should be in naruto just for the purpose of putting him on a team and watching to see if they can work well together. sephiroth would likely be a team by himself, and still do better than anyone else.Originally posted by: jing
DUDE, HINATA'S NOT EVEN WORTH ARUGING ABOUT, just forget about it jeez
START TALKING ABOUT THE BIG GUYS.
its time for the ultimate team:
kabuto, kakashi, gai sensei, sephiroth
*sigh*
Okay, this topic is worthless now. If the Sannin count as Jounin, you're right, there's no point. Can someone close the topic?
And Jing, we already agreed to stop talking, but thanks for siding with me on it. =P
edit - yea, was pretty wothless huh? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
reno, not a good way to start posting. that pic has been seen here many times. its old. bad idea.
Yeah, that was a joke Reno. You needn't actually put it up here. If I thought it was a good idea, I would have posted it myself. =\
*sigh* well it was a good topic.
Had some neat arguments, ahhhh well.
Okay i have a team to compliment my first one, you know, for the big missions that require more than one team.
Jounin: Gai
Genin: Shino, Sasuke, TenTen
some might wonder why i chose tenten. with her weapon throwing skills, shino could have his bugs form into various weapons and have tenten throw them, thus getting a two fold attack. plus with gai's mad taijutsu and sasuke's sharingan, they can handle themselves pretty well. and since i have no byakugan users, shino would be the primary scout. plus, if the genins can learn to put up with gai, they can work VERY well together.
Edit: Shino's bugs make great scouts, which is why i put that in there. and thanks for the compliment!
LMAO ... nice one KaneInferno, man you know your teams. I can't see anything wrong with it (though I can't remember ever seeing Shino do any scouting) but that would be a really cool team to compliment the other one. I think someone else said in these forums that you have to respect Gai for walking around in green spandex and being ok with that ... well I don't know if I could ever put up with him but maybe they could (in a life and death cituation lol)
Hmm. Well, I will admit that Jiraiya is clearly superior to Kakashi in every way, so he'd be the obvious choice, but there are still 3 spots to fill with Genin. Naruto and Sasuke can work well together, but they pretty much do the same basic job (taijutsu with some ninjutsu backup). Especially now that they have the chidori/rasengan, they're essentially the same, so I'd say pick one or the other.
Also, since Lee is out of commission still, he's not technically a valid team member. Also, the "perfect team" stated before did seem to rely a bit heavily on Taijutsu, as does Mutata's team.
So, let's try again, this time without any gray areas: Jiraiya counts, Tsunade doesn't. Kakashi, Gai, Ebisu, Kurenai, Anko, Ibiki, and Asuma also count. Kabuto can be a Jounin, but cannot work with Naruto. Orochimaru can be a Jounin, but cannot work with Naruto, Sasuke, or Sakura. Lee cannot fight, so he cannot be on a team. Since we haven't seen anything to the contrary (yet), we will assume that, for now, Gaara will not work with Konoha genin. Itachi is a missing-nin and has no reason to cooperate with any team, regardless of his rank.
That being said, let's try another round, shall we?
Jiraiya: Strong Ninjutsu, extremely experienced, good leader, versatile, considerable taijutsu for backup.
Sasuke: Strong taijutsu, high speed for tough opponents, Chidori, partial Sharingan, stable strength (as opposed to Naruto's "Well, when he really gets serious").
Shino: Tracking, scouting, analytical, chakra-consuming bugs, moderate taijutsu.
Eh, I'm undecided about who to add to it. I'm thinking Shikamaru, but he doesn't bring too much to the table, or Neji, but then we don't need Shino, and we're a bit heavy on Taijutsu again.
Normal Team:
Jounin: Kakashi
Genin: Naruto, Sasuke, Neji
It's tough choosing between Neji and Rock Lee.
Current Alive best team:
'Teacher': Jiraiya
Team: Itachi, Orochimaru and Tsunade.
Jiaiya could prolly get along with all these guys if he had too, so he makes a good 'teacher'... in the sense of holding the team together.
All Star Best team of all Time
Well I think there should be two:
Teacher: Jiraiya
Team: Itachi, Yondaime, Tsunade
This team would get along really well together, as long as Itachi doesn't go crazy again.
Teacher: Shodaime
Team: Sandaime, Orochimaru, Nidaime.
The Jutsu masters. Nuff said.
oh man just as i got the topic back to where it was, you guys changed the rules! now i have to think up all new teams!! (j/k)
Umm, first off, I realize I may have missed something, but who are Yondaime, Shodaime, Sandaime, and Nidaime?
Secondly, I did specify alive. It's nice that you thought to throw it in there, but I have said that only the living guys count.
Third, your "current alive" team doesn't work on a number of levels. Not only are Itachi, Orochimaru, and Tsunade far from Genins, but Jiraiya wouldn't be the "teacher," and there's no way Orochimaru or Itachi would work together with them (even if Jiraiya/Tsunade were willing, which I'm doubtful they would be).
Fourth, Naruto and Sasuke are fairly mutually exclusive (only in the respect that they do the same job), and they both do the same job as Kakashi.
Fifth, isn't the point of a singular "All star best of all time" team to make on definitive team that would crush all others? What's the point of having two?
*Edit* Haha! Sorry, but I figure it's worth trying to see if the new rules will help anything. =P
those names are the hokages.
Shodaime = First HokageOriginally posted by: Shippou-sama
Umm, first off, I realize I may have missed something, but who are Yondaime, Shodaime, Sandaime, and Nidaime?
Secondly, I did specify alive. It's nice that you thought to throw it in there, but I have said that only the living guys count.
Third, your "current alive" team doesn't work on a number of levels. Not only are Itachi, Orochimaru, and Tsunade far from Genins, but Jiraiya wouldn't be the "teacher," and there's no way Orochimaru or Itachi would work together with them (even if Jiraiya/Tsunade were willing, which I'm doubtful they would be).
Fourth, Naruto and Sasuke are fairly mutually exclusive (only in the respect that they do the same job), and they both do the same job as Kakashi.
Fifth, isn't the point of a singular "All star best of all time" team to make on definitive team that would crush all others? What's the point of having two?
*Edit* Haha! Sorry, but I figure it's worth trying to see if the new rules will help anything. =P
Nidaime = Second Hokage
Sandaime = Third Hokage
Yondaime = Fourth Hokage
Most of the other points: That's why I wrote 'Teacher'... and I tried to specify further by saying that this role would mainly be that of a leader rather than a conventional teacher.
Naruto and Sasuke being mutually exculsive... two heads are better than one then...
Two all Star teams... different styles... and tell me out of those two teams who are the best three from what we know right now in the anime?
If you mean all ninjas:
1) Tsuande
2) Jiraya
3) Itachi
Originally posted by: Shippou-sama
Basically, a few of my friends and I have debated and discussed various teams. The basic idea is to create a team that can handle all or most situations, work well together (so Naruto is generally a bad candidate), and not waste/overlap talent (using Hinata for healing, while overlooking her Byukagen, or putting too many fighters in one team). Please try to explain your choices, as well.
The teams are four member squads, so we'll stick with 1 Jounin and 3 genin.
My current "team" is Kakashi for dealing with genjutsu, Shikamaru for tactics (in case of seperation), Neiji for scouting/taijutsu, and Sasuke for general ninjutsu use.
Mind you, my team has several holes, but this is the team I'm thinking of now.
I'm sorry CC, but I fail to see how your post has any relevance to my first post since: 1) You didn't follow the rules (missing-nin does not count, 1 Jounin 3 genin), 2) You didn't explain your choices, and 3) You have overlapping talents (Jiraiya and Itachi are both Ninjutsu specialists, while they might have widely varying selections of Jutsus, they're still both strongest with ninjutsu).
Kakashi
Naruto and Gaara for obvious reasons, but these 2 dont need a third member
so
Sakura so that other teams still have a chance against them, and could be teagirl
wow, so many rules...
here's my new perfect team:
Kabuto - smart type fighter, could go head to head with Tsunade, Shizune and Naruto, and still came out the winner from the fight with them.
Neji - another smart fighter, can also scout and see through genjutsu with ease.
Sasuke - great fighter, sharingan can copy moves and help against ninjutsu.
Shikamaru - it was either him or Kiba\Shino, and i hate those two more than i sometimes dislike Shikamaru, and Shika's braingan could fit in quite good with the others.
since neither of three knows that Kabuto is evil, no one will get upset on him, Sasuke and Neji will be at eadh others throat for a while, but since both of them have to deal with an annoying guy in thier original team (Naruto and Lee), they would end their bickery with eachother pretty quick and move on with thier life. Shikamaru can shadow thier enemies, and make them open to the others to attack (the great thing here is that the chidori, gentle fist and the chackra scapel attacks are all based on chakra, so Shikamaru will take no damage from the attacks and still keep the enemy at hold) and he's smart to dechiper thier enemies plan. Kabuto is both a med nin (and seeing how he's the strongest of them, the enemy won't be able to put him out of commision fast), the inner spy (he hid himself as a leaf for about 10 years, he could probably trick anyone) and the calmness of the group.
i think that this group could seriously kick ass, there's no flaw in the formation.
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