Umm, based in the current episode (105), we haven't seen him do anything but suck in air and roll at people. Please don't use the manga to argue the skill of a character. Chouji is a much worse addition to the team than Hinata is right now.
Umm, based in the current episode (105), we haven't seen him do anything but suck in air and roll at people. Please don't use the manga to argue the skill of a character. Chouji is a much worse addition to the team than Hinata is right now.
first of all: ANIME forum. these are teams based on the current ANIME characters. currently in the ANIME, chouji is worthless. Dont even elude to anything later than the current episode. its not allowedOriginally posted by: Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Hinata isn't even in the same league as Chouji. Chouji is much more skilled with his clan's techiniques than Hinata is with her Hyuuga techinques. We still have yet to see Chouji at full power. Should be coming soon though[img][/img]
Even in the "ANIME" Chouji is far from worthless. Hinata is worthless, Chouji is not. And in the ANIME he is still able to do two powerfull techniques from his clan, where as Hinata can use Byakugan.Originally posted by: KaneInferno
first of all: ANIME forum. these are teams based on the current ANIME characters. currently in the ANIME, chouji is worthless. Dont even elude to anything later than the current episode. its not allowedOriginally posted by: Kagemane_no_Jutsu
Hinata isn't even in the same league as Chouji. Chouji is much more skilled with his clan's techiniques than Hinata is with her Hyuuga techinques. We still have yet to see Chouji at full power. Should be coming soon though
first: what other one did he do besides the meat tank?
second: both times he did it, he failed miserably.
Agreed. I have only seen Chouji himself do one move. Both times he was not only unable to hit the person, or even intimidate them, but he was completely foiled.
So far the only thing Chouji has done is eat, complain, and suck. In that order.
Hinata trains regularly (without being bribed), and is more than competent at her own clan's form. The fact that she lasted more than 2 seconds against Neji proves that she isn't just some crap ninja.
He uses the jutsu that makes him bigger, and who did he attack with it? Zaku, who was one of the most powerfull genin in that arc. When they showed Shika training for the Chunnin exam, he was sparring Chouji, and Chouji's meat-tank was too much for him.
Edit to post above: Do you seriously think Neji went 100% against her? Wow dude go watch the series over again. If Neji went 100% he would have done the 64 Tenketsu attack, he would have used Kaiten, and Hinata would have been dead.
Uh-oh, it was too much for a smart but physically weak ninja . . . wow, he must be awesome, huh?
Also, I'm not asking this as a challenge, but as a question: What episodes did he use the respective techniques in? I don't recall them, and am more than willing to admit I was wrong if he did.
He wasn't going "100%" as you say, but he was trying to kill her from the first swing.
Hahahaha.
Um go watch any episode Chouji fights in. He does the Double Weight jutsu, then the Meat Tank jutsu. And if you think Neji wasn't fucking with Hinata in the preliminaries, you really are retarted.
Edit: You have still yet to tell me why you think Hinata is better than Chouji.
trsut me buddy, no one watches the series more than shippou-sama. just trust me on this.
So let's just think about this.
I think Hinata is a better ninja, because she works hard and has a couple of useful skills (not least of which is the Byukagen, able to see great distances with no possibility of warning your target of your actions).
You think Chouji is a better ninja because you read the manga and know that he gets better. Your entire argument for him being better than Hinata is "Chouji is really strong, you'll see soon."
Yup, this is a worthwhile debate. How about contributing to the topic, and stop wasting space?
wait... are you implying that hinata stood a chance against neji during the prelims? just say yes or no and if yes, explain your reasoning. if no, then nevermind.Originally posted by: Shippou-sama
He wasn't going "100%" as you say, but he was trying to kill her from the first swing.
No, I don't think she stood a chance. I do think she was better than simple fodder.
1) They started the fight going blow for blow.
2) She was not only able to create, but attack an opening in Neji's defense (see: the first episode of their fight, somewhere towards the end, I'm not sure, sorry). He dodged, but they acknowledge that it still hurt him.
3) If Neji hadn't cut the chakra flow on her last hit, he would have suffered just as bad.
Now, don't get me wrong, I know she couldn't have beaten him, but she did fare better than so many people seem to think.
*Edit* But we really should be staying closer to the topic. If you want, create a thread about this. It's straying too far.
Neji just fought on the same lvl that she was on to drag the pain (fun) out and to really humiliate a main family-member.. He was enjoying it..
It was probably a mistake from his part that he probably though she was so worthless that he got careless..
Well its so obvius that Neji took that hit because he new it would not have any effect and he gave her the exakt same blow back and showed Hinata the diffrence that he was talking about before they started the match.. And he did state that the match was useless from the start since she was not even able to do anything..
When they was fighting in the begining Neji just hit 1 Tenketsu after another he he wanted he could just have seen to get in a hit from the start the finnished it.. but he wanted the fight to be draged out.. To really show her that he a branch-member would pawn her, and also to satisfy his own need to give the main family hell..
Okay, now your starting to piss me off. It was said that Neji is much more skilled than Hinata with all Hyuuga techniques. Hell, it was said that the little Hyuuga 8 year old is better than her. What makes you think she could be better than Chouji? Her scouting abilities are okay, not as good as Shino's, or Kiba's or Neji's. She has no ninjutsu. The only thing that is unique about her is her Taijutsu, which is hand to hand combat. Ninjutsu is more important then Taijutsu overall.Originally posted by: Shippou-sama
So let's just think about this.
I think Hinata is a better ninja, because she works hard and has a couple of useful skills (not least of which is the Byukagen, able to see great distances with no possibility of warning your target of your actions).
You think Chouji is a better ninja because you read the manga and know that he gets better. Your entire argument for him being better than Hinata is "Chouji is really strong, you'll see soon."
Yup, this is a worthwhile debate. How about contributing to the topic, and stop wasting space?
Ninjutsu- Chouji > Hinata
Tai- Hinata > Chou
Strength- Chou > Hinata
Stamina- Chou > Hinata
Speed- Chou > Hinata (during meat tank, otherwise prob hinata)
I feel like there's no point in continuing this because your such a stubborn moron. I wish narutoinfo.com was still up so I could show you the official stats. Hinata has all 1/5's and Chou is 2/5's 3/5's.
I'm sorry if I'm pissing you off, but you're also leaving the entire point of the topic. As mentioned, if you want to keep this debate going, start another thread. I'll be happy to join you when it's on-topic.
Are you a moderator? No. Just because you started this thread doesn't mean you can tell everyone what to do. Threads go off topic all the time. Atleast we're still talking about naruto. And I don't even see how I really went off topic by discussing which character is better in a team. Your just an idiot, if you don't have a reply to my post on Chouji and Hinata then shutup. I'm not going to create a stupid thread that will be nothing but me repeating myself.
*sigh*
I'm not trying to be a moderator, but you're arguing which team is worse, not better. It's now a debate about "Who is a worse ninja, Hinata or Chouji?" in a thread about the perfect team. Neither of them belong on an "ideal" team of 3 genin and 1 Jounin, so I don't know why you want to press the issue. I'm also not trying to piss you off.
In the meantime, since Chouji has, up until now in the anime, demonstrated 0% effectiveness as a ninja, he is considered useless. I'm not saying he doesn't have potential, I'm not saying he doesn't get better, I'm saying he isn't useful right now.
Hinata, while not as great a fighter as Neji, at least has the Byukagen. Now, while I concede that Neji is clearly a better scout than Hinata, because he's better with the Byukagen, but how can you say that Shino and Kiba are better scouts, when they both defer to her as a scout in the Chuunin exam.
Like I said, I'm not trying to piss you off, I'm not trying to attack you or your knowledge of the show, there's no reason to resort to calling me retarded, nor an idiot.
Edit @ kagemane: Eh, I didn't take personal offense (it's actually fairly hard to offend me), but I don't see what kind of place it has in a discussion or a debate. And yeah, Chouji sucks. =P
I'm DISCUSSING which one would be better for a team. I'm sorry if you take offense to me calling you an idiot. I didn't mean for you to take it seriously. I was just having a debate with you, I wasn't trying to insult you. But yeah, Hinata sucks.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
hmm well ill just say this its useless to discuss which of those to his the strongest since both of them are weak compared to the others.
so heres the best team.
Jiraiya, Naruto, Gaara, Shikamaru. you cant argue with that cuase thats the best possible combination you got.
I can argue that Jiraiya is not a Jounin. Even if he is somehow technically a Jounin for some reason that I have missed (I assume Sannin is both a rank and a title), he is still massively unbalanced, and it has been stated a number of times throughout the thread that Itachi, the 3 Sannin, and any Hokages are not included. Otherwise the team would be Itachi, Orochimaru, Tsunade, Sarutobi, and they destroy everything in their path.
I do appreciate your attempts, but when I say Jounin, I mean someone who is used as one (IE: doesn't leave the village for years on end because he can). Try to stick to Kakashi, Asuma, Kurenai, Gai, Ibiki, Anko, Ebisu, and any others that I missed.
Admittedly, Gaara at this point does seem both unreliable, and fairly useless (sure he can't be touched, but how does that help his team?). I imagine he would also offer resistance were he asked to walk a dog, or pick trash out of a river. =P
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