Hehe, tie.
I know, what a gay guy. Who uses an umbrella for a weapon? Especially when it's not raining.
The rule of jounin strength doesn't apply to Aoi because he's just a filler character put in to buy some time for the directors.
I'd like to think of the anime as a final cut, but I know it's a lost cause because Aoi will get whipped anyway despite his rank.
yep, its kinda predictable...somehow sasuke and naruto will end up kicking his ass.
as for the whole genin can beat a jounin thing....wtf?!? like several ppl have said, if tehre IS a genin strong enuff to beat a jounin, then he wouldn't BE a genin anymore, he'd be considered a jounin. just look at kakashi....he was strong even when he was little, and im sure at teh age of 6 he could beat a chuunin, and so he BECAME a chuunin at the age of 6.
oh ya, i rememebred something else that pissed me off about this ep....Aoi is a missing nin who stole the villages treasure.....now maybe its just me, but doesn't that sort of thing get the hunter nins on ur ass?? i mean, thats what they're for aren't they?
and how could he just take the sword and prance into the rain village and just become a rain nin...1. he still has the "present" he stole, and 2. a village wouldn't provide refuge for a missing nin willingly or else it'd be an act of war wouldn't it? and considering the relative sizes and difference in power of konoha and the rain village, i dont think the hidden rain could take that chance.
yet anotehr stupid mistake those idiot producers have made....god how i hate thier guts!
Just b/c you're ranked #1 in a league doesn't mean the #1 team will win. Just b/c a special ops. person has been trained for years doesn't mean he can't be shot by a 13 yr old kid. You may have more skill and experience, but that doesn't necessarily give you a default win.
Not true.. Team 7 did an A rank mission, did that bump them up to Jounin since only Jounin can do those? No. Gaara's team did atleast an A rank and several B ranks, did he get promoted for them? Nope. Titles and strength do not always coincide with eachother.as for the whole genin can beat a jounin thing....wtf?!? like several ppl have said, if tehre IS a genin strong enuff to beat a jounin, then he wouldn't BE a genin anymore, he'd be considered a jounin. just look at kakashi....he was strong even when he was little, and im sure at teh age of 6 he could beat a chuunin, and so he BECAME a chuunin at the age of 6.
Naruto is a genin but most likely the most powerful character in the series right now (Chakra wise, doesn't mean he knows what the hell to do with it). But he can't be a Jounin, since he hasn't done whatever test it is they have to do to get that rank. I believe those ranks are only to hold the hierarchy, not to actually state a person's power.. Though they can give you a general idea for the most part.
dude, are u high? doing *one* A rank mission doesn't mean shit....hell it was an accident they did it anyway. if they had been GIVEN an A rank mission then u could say that yes, they're possibly higher then genin level. besides, just because they lucked out and didn't get slaughtered doesn't mean they're strong as jounins. a jounin would be able to beat zabuza and do A rank missions ALL the time.Originally posted by: ZakuHan
Not true.. Team 7 did an A rank mission, did that bump them up to Jounin since only Jounin can do those? No. Gaara's team did atleast an A rank and several B ranks, did he get promoted for them? Nope. Titles and strength do not always coincide with eachother.
Naruto is a genin but most likely the most powerful character in the series right now (Chakra wise, doesn't mean he knows what the hell to do with it). But he can't be a Jounin, since he hasn't done whatever test it is they have to do to get that rank. I believe those ranks are only to hold the hierarchy, not to actually state a person's power.. Though they can give you a general idea for the most part.
no he can't be a jounin cuz hes not strong enuff to be a jounin. hes only the strongest GENIN in the series..and maybe a mid level chuunin at this point. lets look at all the fights naruto had with jounin level characters:But he can't be a Jounin, since he hasn't done whatever test it is they have to do to get that rank
1. Kakashi (during the training): he gets trapped several times and gets a finger up his ass.
2. Zabuza: he gets kicked around alot and is only able to fool zabuza with the help of sasuke for an instant.
3. Orochimaru (during chuunin exam): even with kyuubi chakra he can't do shit except stab a snake with a tiny kunai and get his ass sealed.
4. Itachi/Kisame (at the hotel): hes too scared to even put up a fight, and when he tries to mold chakra, hes nullified by kisame.
5. Tsunade (when they make the bet): he can't even lay a finger on her and she flicks him away.
6. Kabuto: even after he's been knocked around my tsunade, naruto still can't do shit to him. he manages to surprise kabuto and pull off a renengan, but also gets badly hurt himself. if it wasn't for the fact that hes the main character, he would have died rite there, where as kabuto would survive.
the record speaks for itself...no matter how strong naruto is, he can't beat any jounin no matter who it is
Don't think Naruto can ever beat a jounin alone (at least now) - not because he does not posses the chakra levels or powers as other jounins, but because he simply lacks the experiance in battle...
Other Jounins can anticipate what Naruto is going to do a mile away, while he will not see it coming until its too late.
From time to time he does manage to think of a cool trick (being the surprise ninja that he is) - and that may change the tide of the battle; but will never win him a 1 on 1 fight with a jounin imo.
How is it that a stupid lil gennin kid is able to steal the top secret scroll, and sacred items, i dont GET IT.
but it will probably say something about Ibiki being a hunternin getting retrieving the things back next ep..
aoi's only a jonin because he betrayed konoha for the rank. he was like on iruka sensei's level and wasn't going to make it as a konoha jonin. so if they beat him up, it will only be like beating up a chuunin. Even konoha's geinins are better
Is everyone else missing this point?Originally posted by: jedros
aoi's only a jonin because he betrayed konoha for the rank. he was like on iruka sensei's level and wasn't going to make it as a konoha jonin. so if they beat him up, it will only be like beating up a chuunin. Even konoha's geinins are better
Aoi is only a Chunnin in konoha, allowing naruto and sasuke to beat his ass... This will reiterate itself again later on when Aoi losses to "Genins" and claims "but i'm a Jounin!" and we have ibuki's flash back (again) talking about there are things more important then rank
Village of rain totally seems like a traitorious village to me where anything goes. Also as for the rain nin using water clones, that doesnt really surprise me. If your selected to enter the Chuunin exam you're more then likely have the skill set to be a chuunin (you just might not have the combat experience / strategy) Since those rain nins are specialists with illusionary techniques / clones in what we've seen and come from a water based village... natural that they'd learn water clones (also are water clones considered Jounin level technique? dont think its ever actually been said...)
Lastly, I think people like to whine and moan over nothing. So far I'm actually enjoying this filler arc, but unfortunetly its being too predictable.. I hope for Naruto and Co to win the race but have Idate die at the end... that would make things interesting imo... he sacrified himself for what he believed in or something... similar to Haku's story. The tortoise vs the hare thing thats being developed is stupid imo if they win by that measure... so far so good, dont make stupid ending to arc is all i'm hoping...
"Just b/c you're ranked #1 in a league doesn't mean the #1 team will win. Just b/c a special ops. person has been trained for years doesn't mean he can't be shot by a 13 yr old kid. You may have more skill and experience, but that doesn't necessarily give you a default win."
Bad examples. When it comes to league, positions are pending back and forth. It's more like a rank while the ninja hierarcy is like classes which are permanent. And remove that gun thing too, this is a freakin' anime. People don't die by gunshots here.
@ZakuHan: This is filler. Naruto isn't supposed to be able to do A rank missions. I don't know what crack the producers smoked, but you can't include it as a fact. And Gaara's team only did B missions at most. He did ONE. And wasn't hurt during it, hence Kabuto's surprised reaction back during the early chuunin arc. And seriously wtf "they are just there to hold the hierarchy" have you even watched the series? The void between genins & jounins are infinite!
All of you guys have the same problem. You keep seeing genin fight each other with cool moves and you fall under the false spell that the genin are mega mega powerful and can beat everything that moves. Sure, pit Naruto VS Chouji and you'll probably see Naruto whip him so easily that you'll think he's high rank. But pit Naruto VS a jounin and we can all laugh, because he will lose in an instant.
I can't believe you guys keep going at this.
I think you misunderstood me there, on atleast one account. The A rank mission I'm talking about was Zabuza's arc. He didn't defeat Zabuza, obviously, but the mission was STILL an A rank (Paid as a C rank due to the drunk old man), and I'm sure Kakashi filled in the Hokage on that upon return during the mission report.@ZakuHan: This is filler. Naruto isn't supposed to be able to do A rank missions. I don't know what crack the producers smoked, but you can't include it as a fact. And Gaara's team only did B missions at most. He did ONE. And wasn't hurt during it, hence Kabuto's surprised reaction back during the early chuunin arc. And seriously wtf "they are just there to hold the hierarchy" have you even watched the series? The void between genins & jounins are infinite!
@ Assassin: I think he stole the sword to give it to the rain that is why they accepted him maybe
btw............
did anyone catch that "lee vs gaara" remix song they were playing when aoi was messin with the kids?
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
No I'm not too keen on the music. The only theme I know is the Naruto-success theme, you know? The one with the drums and stuff.
ZakuHan: Oh. Well, they would all be dead meat without Kakashi there... so I wouldn't use that as an argument either though.
Assertn: Yeah, I was going to say that a few posts back but I forgot it for some reason. It was a neat touch.
So it seems as though Naruto and Sasuke are gonna duke it out... I wish they hadn't given that away in the intro... it does look neat though, Sasuke's Sharingan and Naruto's Kyuubi eyes...
Since there is already six pages i will most likely say alot of what has already been sead. Ok. I for one liked the eps. naruto Getting his Shadow Clones to Create the whearl pool was Just too damn cool. And Sakura dosnt only need to learn medical Techniqs but Human shild jutsu's since thats what she mainly acts as, It would give her a Purpose and It wount be Too imbarrasing. A good Defence is a good thing in escort Missons. Now for the Songs. The Opening song and ending song were not the best ones IMO but they are not bad ether. The Opening animation was Really Nice. The Ending. I have to agree with someone on the first page. Made me think of the Beatles. and thats a good thing. I hope they dont speed thought this comeing ark like i know they could. Alot of you will odds are be complaning about run on eps but Trust me. thats not a bad thing. I hope i dint say too much about the next ark. Oh yah, Forgot about this. But did aoi Really earn his Rank? sure he is a pure Konoha ninja gone to train under another Hidden Village. but dint he get his current Rank by Buying it with the scroll and sword?
Damn the naruto series is getting boring as hell
Dont ya guys think so ???
O_O is there something that I should say ?????
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