Right, but anyways, i think you should believe that sasuke can't own shikamaru.
at least consider the fact that you are abit wrong.
Right, but anyways, i think you should believe that sasuke can't own shikamaru.
at least consider the fact that you are abit wrong.
lmae out of field? WTF are you talking about. it applies to litrally ALL fights. if you get terrain that suits you and works to your advantage then you will win barring any incredible leap in power. it deals with warfare, and not JUST medieveil or ancient or whatever. if you can name one single type of fight that it doesnt apply to than ill agree it was wrong to pull it into the argument. but i know you cant.
also @ jing iam guessin you ment that i should beleive that shika cant own sasuke. and i agree, i doubt VERY much shika could own sasuke. but i think shika could win. of course its not a final point of view, i can certainly see how people can think that sasuke coudl beat shika, but to suggest that sasuke CANNOT be beaten by shika is BS
Ok, I will - HAND TO HAND COMBAT BETWEEN NINJAS WITH SUPERSPEED.
Idiot. How can you hold a fucking terrain advantage when you can both evacuate a particular area in milliseconds?
Sun's treatise on TROOP MOVEMENTS in ANCIENT CHINA is not fucking applicable.
of course it is. the very fact they they can both flee in seconds proves that theory. to suggest that a fleeing ninja can defend from the onslaught of an attacing ninja IN an advantageous enviroment is complete bullshit. also dont forget these guys arnt quite THAT fast. and they are only going to move somewhere else......and where the FUCK do you think they are going to move to??? somewhere they get an advantage from you fuckin moron.
Apparently you have no idea why terrain gave armies an advantage in ancient China. What, is Shikamaru going to shoot Sasuke with a crossbow from the trees or cliff face, or arrange his pikemen in a row across a mountain path chokepoint? Arrange his troops so Sasuke can't move through a bog on his left?
Oh wait, those are the movements Sun talks about in the Tao of War, not personal combat techniques. "HE WILL USE TERRAIN!" is just a vague bullshit argument that you can use to support any ninja defeating anyone - as long as you don't have to give an example of how it HELPS Shikamaru out - and you tried to feebly support it by tying it to an intellectual philosophical treatise on war you've probably never read.
Nice try.
terrain is important if you're trying to track someone down though, or if say.....you're in a desert instead of a forest and you happen to be gaara
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Well that second one isn't quite as applicable, since Gaara can control sand even in non-deserts.
But yes, "terrain helps" is a good point. However, "terrain lets any ninja beat any other ninja" isn't, and it certainly isn't supported by the Art of War.
oh here ya go you FUCKING MORON, i didnt think i woudl have to go as far as to explain this becuase is pretty obvious really. shika in a stadium has little shadow and so waits for the sun to create more for him. in the forest temaris attacks are lessend due to the fatc that there are HUNDREDS of fucking trees in the path of her wind. now, i dont know if your going to debate this ias its only proven to happen in the real world and not a fictional anime/manga (<_< >_>[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] but a forest floor is COVERED IN SHADOW YOU FUCKING MORON. just like the chances that gaara would win in a desert (assuming he can control all sand (at least more if there IS more) because he can control the very ground the enemy stands on. what about zabuze? notice how he was buy a fucking lake and a river/sea/ocean when he fought kakshi? coincidence? no. kisame fought on a fucking river also. coincidence? no. now what the fuck is so hard for your tiny little brain to grasp, that diffrent terrain will be advantages to diffrent ninjas? do you think tenten would prefere to fight in an open field or a forest? do you think shika woudl like to fight at night or the middle of the day?
and i never said it lets any ninja beat any other ninja. of course common sense dictates that shika placed in a dark room could (edit: NOT) beat oro. if there is a clear gap in skills then obvioulsy terrain will only help a tiny, tiny, tiny amount. but with roughtly the same level its a HUGE factor. and your only saying gaara isnt applicable beacuse its the most obvious person that supports the idea, as i said above is he fought in a desert he could easily be at a much greater benefit than in a forest.
See above post.
I can't tell you more because it would be a spoiler - and ruin your world.
WTF cmon i know the mods are readin this, this shit shouldnt be allowed.
lmfaoof course common sense dictates that shika placed in a dark room could beat oro
chambers and y the alien, stop with the name calling. if you can't have a discussion without calling someone a fucking moron or an idiot, try talking somewhere else.
btw, the only way shikamaru can beat sasuke is if the sun was completely blocked out by death cloud from a nuclear war.
does shikamaru have a chance to beat sasuke in fight? yes, but it's slim to none.
Even then, it would fail Mut.
I can't give an example, of course - because it's a spoiler.
awwwww WTF. come onnnnnnnnnnnnn. THIS IS BULLSHIT. this guy is sitting here telling me that sasuke is gonna fight shikamaru and that sasuke will win. EVEN IF THIS DOES NOT happen in the manga he should alter his posts and stop being a troll (thats if it doesnt happen). c'mon mods i dont like people ruining the show for me at all. this is unfair.
mere mention of spoilers shouldnt be allowed FFS. you cant say hey i coudl give you an exmple of naruto beating kakshi but then i woudl be spoiling. you shouldnt even be allowed to say i could give you an exmple of someone in an advantageous position and then getting beat but hey its a spoiler.
cmon MODS theres two of you at least reading this.
I said nothing of the kind.Originally posted by: chambers
this guy is sitting here telling me that sasuke is gonna fight shikamaru and that sasuke will win.
where does it say and who said that sasuke is gonna fight shikamaru? i seriously don't see it. i'll edit out if you point it to me.Originally posted by: chambers
awwwww WTF. come onnnnnnnnnnnnn. THIS IS BULLSHIT. this guy is sitting here telling me that sasuke is gonna fight shikamaru and that sasuke will win. EVEN IF THIS DOES NOT happen in the manga he should alter his posts and stop being a troll (thats if it doesnt happen). c'mon mods i dont like people ruining the show for me at all. this is unfair.
mere mention of spoilers shouldnt be allowed FFS. you cant say hey i coudl give you an exmple of naruto beating kakshi but then i woudl be spoiling. you shouldnt even be allowed to say i could give you an exmple of someone in an advantageous position and then getting beat but hey its a spoiler.
cmon MODS theres two of you at least reading this.
EDIT: below:
HAHAHAHHAHAA TERRA IS THE MAN!
This post improved insanely.
the only way shikamaru can beat sasuke is if the sun was completely blocked out by death cloud from a nuclear war.
y the alien said in response
Even then, it would fail Mut.I can't give an example, of course - because it's a spoiler.
through logic and the natural flow of conversation THAT indicates that he is either spoiling OR makning stupid claims to win an argument cliaming they are spoilers. either way it shoudlnt be allowed.
You cannot determine what I was talking about from my remarks.through logic and the natural flow of conversation THAT indicates that he is either spoiling
That is all.
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