How powerful is Haku?

**Uchiha Kakure** · Sat, 10-02-2004, 12:25 PM

I constantly here how Haku is jounin levekl, how he's stronger than Zabuza, but I dont think so. He had blazing speed in his mirrors, has intellegent, and he can use one handed seals. No only that but he has a nearly unbeatable jutsu, unless you have a supreme ninjutsu or taijutsu.

However, just those things alone doesnt mean you can compete with a jounin, especially one as strong as Zabuza. Sasuke and Neji fall into the same category as Haku, genius ninjas with powerful bloodline limits. But I seriously, SERIOUSLY doubt they could take on their respective masters.

Opinions?

**DeadalouS** · Sat, 10-02-2004, 12:47 PM

Actually i feel the same, haku isnt that high a level ninja.

His only extreme trick is to make some mirrors in which he has to trap the enemy before they are totally denied any chance in combat, if trapped in the mirrors... yes its game over if haku wants to kill someone.
yet a jounin level fighting 1 on 1 with haku wouldnt charge him head on and run into his jutsu, AND WOULD NOT STAND AND LOOK WHILE A JUTSU IS FORMING.... an experienced jounin (even chuunin) would retreat untill he had decided what the jutsu did, and still even if he couldnt he would not enter its perimeter... so haku could come to a deadlock with any jounin and chuunin by using his supreme technique... yet he cannot decide the match with it.

Haku is pretty much ordinary when he is fighting normally... he was beat by early genin sasuke and had to retreat to his ice mirrors... and naruto only unleashed as much power as he did with neji... so i would consider haku = neji like uchiha kakure here does.....

last remark and summary of it all "Haku is overestimated."

**Stoopider** · Sat, 10-02-2004, 01:45 PM

Yep. Jounnin wouldn't be that stupid to stop and look at those pretty mirrors.

Plus, the Jounnin would strike as he's summoning them. Only way I see it for Haku to win, is to hide, then summon it on the Jounnin's trapping the Jounnin as he's taking a nap under the tree.

**Gods_Son** · Sat, 10-02-2004, 02:47 PM

Who cares, he's dead now.

**Mr.X** · Sat, 10-02-2004, 02:47 PM

one handed hand seals is badass.

**XwingRob** · Sun, 10-03-2004, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by: Gods_Son
Who cares, he's dead now.

**kaigan** · Sun, 10-03-2004, 05:05 PM

haku's mirror seal is probably very fast but it has to be shown slow so it would be cool and interesting.

**PSJ** · Sun, 10-10-2004, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by: Gods_Son
Who cares, he's dead now.

what i was going to say.

**Deblas** · Sun, 10-17-2004, 06:57 PM

amen

**tri-sapphire** · Sat, 10-02-2004, 06:58 PM

Yep. Jounnin wouldn't be that stupid to stop and look at those pretty mirrors.

Actually, as long as there's water around Haku can make really good use of those mirrors. He doesn't have to make a circle around his opponent, and those mirrors give him speed about equal to instant transportation. After all, he popped up in front of Kakashi after he started to perform chidori (and Haku was kinda far away), meaning that Kakashi was going full speed (it's a requirement of the skill).

**chidori24** · Sat, 10-02-2004, 09:33 PM

I agree with Mr. X [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Doing seals with just one hand is cool considering that he is the only one so far who demonstrated this skill [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img] So, if anyone else could do one handed seals, I wonder if they can do two seals at a time [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

**Lenas** · Sat, 10-02-2004, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by: tri-sapphire
Yep. Jounnin wouldn't be that stupid to stop and look at those pretty mirrors.

Actually, as long as there's water around Haku can make really good use of those mirrors. He doesn't have to make a circle around his opponent, and those mirrors give him speed about equal to instant transportation. After all, he popped up in front of Kakashi after he started to perform chidori (and Haku was kinda far away), meaning that Kakashi was going full speed (it's a requirement of the skill).

Yeah, too bad Haku wasn't using a mirror of any kind when he ran in front of Kakashi. That was his speed alone, not some trick. Perhaps he got a bit faster to protect someone important? *Never* seen that before.

**jing** · Sat, 10-02-2004, 11:35 PM

I'd say if he were to join the chunnin exam. He would be chunnin.

**Hotsuma** · Sun, 10-03-2004, 12:48 AM

Haku is good enough to beat the crap out of Naruto at this point.

**Stoopider** · Sun, 10-03-2004, 04:29 AM

Everybody can beat the crap out of Naruto. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

**basey44** · Sun, 10-03-2004, 07:28 AM

lol yea, even that shitcunt sasuke beat him AND naruto was like super kyuubi

Y · Sun, 10-03-2004, 09:23 AM

Haku is stronger than Zabuza.

**Elite Hentai** · Sun, 10-03-2004, 03:47 PM

Have you guys forgotten Haku has beaten at least 1 ANBU? How else did he get that mask?

**Uchiha Kakure** · Sun, 10-03-2004, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by: Elite Hentai
Have you guys forgotten Haku has beaten at least 1 ANBU? How else did he get that mask?

I'm sure that mask isnt that hard to make. If he can create mirrors and jump using reflections, I'm sure he can make a mask.

**Hotsuma** · Mon, 10-04-2004, 12:12 AM

Uh, no. The Mirrors were merely a jutsu of his, that utilized water and ice, forming a circle of mirrors around his victims.

The mask is part of no jutsu.

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