Will Kakashi Get There In Time?

[tuggumkee]

If you look back at the zabuza fight, when kakashi got serious, he owned zabuza. He owned zabuza the first time, and when he saw naruto letting kyubi go, he owned zabuza in 2 moves, getting slashed and summon no jutsu.

In the Itachi fight, kakashi only got hurt trying to save kurenai. Yeah i agree kakashi would have gotten owned and did get owned by itachi, but i think if he was going one on one against itachi he'd be able to last alittle longer than portrayed in the water fight.(also note that kakashi was the first person itachi faught, and kakashi had used a kage bunshin to repel the water strike of kisame).

Really, kakashi is on such a higher level than sasuke or naruto at this point. Really just ask this, do u think sasuke would be able to stand up to itachi even for the length of time kakashi did? the answer is NO.

Sasuke has never shown anywhere near the amount of forsight kakashi uses in a fight, and his greatest thing at the moment is using a fully developed sharingan.

I'm sorry folks, but kakashi's been using that for a while now. Plus all the different jutsus and summons he has, Theres no way kakashi can lose to sasuke.

[Hennyo]

i think that most everyone here has missed a big point in the plot here either that or forgoten it. First off naruto was sent off on a mission to retrive sasuke. That would mean that kakashi would be trying to do the same and also he would be worried and try to prevent them from killing each other. With that said the most natural thing to expect would that naruto would welcome kakashi showing up and would probally try to get him to hep him. I dont see naruto attacking kakashi at all and at most kakashi will try to interfer with the fight until he can establish the fact of his presense at which point i would expect him to work with naruto in trying to get sasuke back. But even at that i think there will be interfercene on sasuke's behalf as well and that is where i believe that kakashi will come in.

[onemoregook]

Originally posted by: Ryllharu
Could Sasuke kill Kakashi, more than likely he could. Will he? That remains to be seen.

Remember the Itachi/Kakashi fight? Itachi was more than capable of defeating Kakashi without the Mangekyo Sharingan. Now, I'm not saying Sasuke is on par with Itachi with his now activated lvl 2 seal, but he could be close to his brother's strength. We really have no idea how strong Sasuke is right now because we've only seen it for 2 panels.

If Kishimoto decides to kill off kakashi, I won't be happy with it, but it will certainly end the comparison between DBZ and Naruto. In the naruto world, once someone is really dead, they're really dead. It will serve to bring all the nonsense that went on in this arc into something a little greater. If Kishimoto isn't going to make Naruto funny again, he might as well make it serious.

If you don't think Kishimoto is willing to kill off someone with Kakashi's status in the story, try to remember the Third.

the third was an old fart with no fan base. there are plenty of kakashi fanboys and girls so his untimely death will spell financial hurting for kishimoto and jump. so kakashis death is highly unlikely.

[basey44]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
100 level 1 kyubi narutos also wasnt a match for kimimaro, which would suggest a similiar scenario.

yea but u gotta remember that the chakra is divided evenly among the clones so wouldnt each clone be 100 times weaker that the orginal before the jutsu

[Inazuma Kami]

Kakashi die ? He is the super Famous copy ninja , he won't die so easily ...

Zabuza vs Kakashi ? : Kakashi went easy on Zabuza
(Kakashi : It seems we are both short on time I'll end this now ) A few sec later Zabuza was having fun with Kakashi's Dogs

Sasuke can't die, Naruto won't accept this fact so easily he'll turn beserk and release Kyuubi.
Kakashi knows that and won't make the situation even worse by fighting.

(See Haku when he put Sasuke and "Near-Death" Stage ...)
(Kakashi :This chakra ...? This degusting chakra belong to..*Glups* there no time, the seal is breaking apart.)


**Quotes maybe wrongs**

I Think this is the moment to introduce a new Caracters (People who can easily argue with Orochimaru/Itachi/Tsunade and may be teach something to Sakura (Miracles do happend))

[kAi]

yeah my opinions go with kakashi could knock around sasuke and naruto...
i dont think there at that level...
coz if they make sasuke and naruto able to defeat kakashi...
that would make them elite jounin level ninjas (fighting strength/abilitiy)...

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: Eurasian

Originally posted by: Berserk Ayato
I hope that Kakashi gets killed trying to save the two. I mean Kakashi seems moe a of a friend to Sasuke, then Naruto to Sasuke, so maybe if Kakashi gets killed Sasuke can evolve his eyes. But yeah that wont happen, He's gonna break it up with ease probly.

if kakashi did die, i'm going to buy a plane ticket and kick the fucking shit outta kishimoto. but i think i would be only able to write a tiny letter of complaint and send it to japan.

uhm...god, i don't even know what to think. this story can go so many ways and i can see everyone's prediction as being plausible...except kakashi dying.

we can start collecting money if that happens ill come with you. ill hold him down and you kick him.

kakashi wont die. but i think that kabuto overestimated the powers of kimimaro a little i mean if he is at jounin level than gaara has already reached jounin level and probably naruto and sasuke to. thats just plain boring.

[Winged Dancer]

Kabuto said that Kimimaro was on par with Sasuke... I don't doubt Sasuke would kill Kakashi if that gave him his mangekyou sharingan, but I don't think Kakashi would lay down and let Sasuke kill him just like that.

Besides, really!! The Third Hokage wasn't that important for the Naruto world. As much as I liked him, he was only a valuable character once Orochimaru started openly attacking the Leaf... other than that, he was basically a background character.

Kakashi, instead, has been Naruto's teacher for a while... and he's gotten #1 in two official "Who's your favorite?" polls. So I don't think they'll be killing him off this soon in the manga. Besides, we haven't heard his angsty backstory yet!! And this arc already had its share of flashbacks.

Therefore, whatever happens, Kakashi lives through.

(Truth to be told, I can even believe you guys are thinking he'll be killed so soon...)

[Ryllharu]

Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
Kabuto said that Kimimaro was on par with Sasuke... I don't doubt Sasuke would kill Kakashi if that gave him his mangekyou sharingan, but I don't think Kakashi would lay down and let Sasuke kill him just like that.

Besides, really!! The Third Hokage wasn't that important for the Naruto world. As much as I liked him, he was only a valuable character once Orochimaru started openly attacking the Leaf... other than that, he was basically a background character.

Kakashi, instead, has been Naruto's teacher for a while... and he's gotten #1 in two official "Who's your favorite?" polls. So I don't think they'll be killing him off this soon in the manga. Besides, we haven't heard his angsty backstory yet!! And this arc already had its share of flashbacks.

Therefore, whatever happens, Kakashi lives through.

(Truth to be told, I can even believe you guys are thinking he'll be killed so soon...)

**SPOILERS ABOUT A DIFFERENT SERIES**














No one thought that Hughes in FMA (a rather popular and at least moderately important character) would be killed off, but it happened. He wasn't as popular as Kakashi, but it remains a valid point












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I'm still not saying that he will be killed, but he could be killed. We have absolutely no idea how powerful Sasuke has gotten at this point. If Gaara (who was, and is even stronger now) had trouble fighting Kimimaro, who died from disease, and Sasuke is supposedly on par with Kimimaro, and is healthy, Sasuke probably could kill Kakashi.

Again, I'm not saying he will, just making the point that we have no idea what will happen because we know nothing about Sasuke's 2nd level seal.

I doubt we'll learn a lot of the backstory to many characters, even one's as important as Kakashi. The manga (last time i checked) is still called Naruto, and the focus seems to be on the ninjas of that generation.


Sorry about the spoilers and the really long post.

[Danik]

I agree with the fact that it doesn't matter the level of anyone in the story, if Kishimoto wants to kill someone for the good of the plot he'll do it.

But since most of you think that neither Naruto nor Sasuke are match for Kakashi, assuming that he does get there on time, what good will it bring to the story to just make him spank them both and take them back to Konoha?? None, infact most (not all) of this arc would have been useless in that sence.
Finishing the arc like that would be bad, going back to konoha and wait to get attacked again by the same guy, same plot, same story over and over again.
If Sasuke goes to Orochimaru on the other hand, it will give continuation and things would get far more interesting if he does, so the tought of getting Kakashi at least beaten by Sasuke, is not that crazy.

[jing]

So then Zabuza catching Kakashi with the water prison no jutsu is just a figment of our imaginations?

[Lucian5000]

He captured him, yes. But he can't hold it indefinitely, the moment he let it go, kakashi would be on him like white on rice.

[jing]

Originally posted by: Lucian5000
He captured him, yes. But he can't hold it indefinitely, the moment he let it go, kakashi would be on him like white on rice.

What if Zabuza takes a knife and stabs him while he is inside the water prison?
HUH? HUH ???? HUH!????

Kakashi can't move in the prison. Zabuza can summon a clone to do it.

[PossiblE]

I would assume that the water prison is at least some sort of unpenetrable (sp?) water. It you were able to put a knife through it, why wouldn't Kakashi just be able to escape.

[Sidnne]

What may happen, given all the people that've showed up lately, is that Kabuto arrives to see what happened - they surely would have expected Kimimaro to be quicker, and if Kabuto does appear, maybe things'll continue Naruto vs. Sasuke, Kakashi vs. Kimimaro.

Well, if Kabuto DOES show up, it won't be to see what is taking Kimimaro so long. Kabuto and Oro already know that Kimi is dead. That candle in Oro's chambers that they kept watching was symbolic of Kimi's life. Once that candle burnt out, they knew he was dead. If you remember, as soon as it burnt out Oro said something like "What has happened to Kimimaro doesn't concern me, I'm only interested in Sasuke. He can get here by himself."

I would love to see Kakashi vs Kabuto, and to have them both show up on the scene right now would be an ideal situation. However, I feel that if the two of them did fight right now, it would be a very long and epic battle that would drag this arc out another 3-4 months. At this point I would really like to see the current arc wrap up with the conclusion of the Naruto vs Sasuke fight, and move the storyline along. But this entire arc has been full of surprises and I don't think Kishi is done yet.

[jing]

Actually now that i think about it, zabuza wasn't that strong afterall. He was just lucky that he captured kakashi. If i do recall, that each of his clones have 1/10 his strength AND we've seen sasuke POWNED those clones in less than 5 seconds...

[Winged Dancer]

Well, there's some true there, regarding the BIG SPOILER THING UP THERE. I still don't think Kakashi will be killed, though - sure, Kishimoto might not have a (sorry for the comparision) DBZ-like scale of power in which you can say exactly who is more powerful than who and why.

However, it stays the same for me - four sound ninja, level two, stronger than Sasuke (Sakon defeated Sasuke very, very easily with Sasuke lvl. 1, Sakon might or might had not activated the seal) had trouble defeating two Leaf jounin, and had to rest afterwards. So that means the seal gives you basically strength, speed (possibly) and powers that would be out of your reach, not skill and battle-strategy abilities.

Not only that, it seems that being at lvl. 2 seal uses a lot of energy - Sasuke could just activate lvl. 1 and immediately went to level two, there's no knowing how long he'll really last...

So anyway, I stand by what I said way before... sure, the seal may give Sasuke more strength and some new moves, but Kakashi is the one with experience, and he knows the way Sasuke fights.

'Sides, who better to fight a sharingan user than another sharingan user? And since Sasuke doesn't have the mangekyou yet, its not really dangerous.

[realtortato]

I think I recall Kabuto telling Kimimaro that the curse seal that Orochimaru gave Sasuke(Heaven) was on par with the one he had(Earth), not that he was as strong as Kimimaro[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[Baranthal]

Couple of things...

In the Haku fight.. Kakashi admitted that there would have been nothing he could have done if he had been trapped by the Ice mirrors jutsu. Naruto just pounded his way out of it with Kyuubi chakra. From a overwhelming power level, I think Naruto at least and most likely Sasuke may have more raw power available to them then Kakashi.

However, that being said, skill in using his powers, Kakashi far out strips them. So he could easily beat either of them in a fight, due to his skill. But, I think the only way the fight could be stopped at this point is by someone on the level of Jiraiya.

[Lucian5000]

Or if he allowed himself to get caught in inexcapable jutsu's, like ..*quickly looks at which forum this is* Ah, good, Manga. Like Gaara's new sand trap *too lazy to get the name*, The ice mirror or the water prison. And Mangekyou Sharingan, obviously.