Un less they got good ones of course
Un less they got good ones of course
R.I.P Captain America.
yeah but the probability of them getting good ones is pretty slim, I think. -.-
People fail to realize that there ARE good voice actors in america. I've heard a few dub voices that I've liked. Crispin Freeman would make a good Kakashi.
yeah there might be some but compare "good american voice actors" to how many "good dubbed anime" there are -.- . Either way there is no guaruntee that the good voice actors would get signed on for naruto and even if they are good voice actors themselves that dosent' mean they would fit all the characters in Naruto.
No if naruto ends up on adultswim i will give up on japanese anime, sooner or later they should relise american companies and tv channels are ruining anime <.<; fansub = better,
I have to go with the majority on the fan subs, I know sometimes its a pain in the ass when the subs suddenly come at you wayy to fast and the only way to understand what there talking about is pausing it (ie three lines of translation is hard to read in like a two seconds, damn Samurai Champloo for that) but American television has alot of censor ship that would ruin the quality of this anime.
I'm not saying all American channels are like this, hell I remember when Spawn the cartoon came out, it had blood and guts and everything disturbing you could think about, but then again it was aired at like midnight when it first came out (or atleast it was here in Canada) the only problem I see is the Americans changing it and making it like Pokemon, or that other card show I could careless about. I guess what I am saying is Naruto though can be seen as a kid-teen-adult show, the American media would sort of censor and strip the hell out of the show and make it a practicle joke.
If someone in Tokyo licenses it in a way where it can be distrabuted but must not have any censorship of anykind unless authorized by them, and have a voice over again authorized by them then I would be ok, becuase really they would try I hope and keep it true to there public mainstream aswell.
.... oh and if this makes absolutely no sense, I am writing this post at like 3 am because I can't fall back to sleep because of this stupid head cold I just got.
*sigh*
It doesn't matter if TV censors it or not. Chances are, with great likelyhood, there will be uncut DVDs. If you truly want to support this great anime, buy the DVDs. Simple as that. Downloading fansubs is NOT supportive of the series in any tangible way.
i dont really care about dubs and censored crap. the thing i dont want happening is naruto coming to america and me seeing kids everywhere running around with head protectors on. then stupid companies will create bootleg naruto merchandise and thats just really going to piss me off. soon im going to see loser high school kids running around at the mall doing seals or yelling out jutsus trying to be cool. i like downloading naruto right now, i dont want to have to watch it on tv. i download naruto, i get to keep the episodes and i can watch them anytime i want. i dont want to wait every freakin week to watch old eps i've already seen before. if naruto comes to america its just going to be another dbz disaster. seeing naruto on adult swim is no better than watching it on fox. both channels suck in my opinion.
Soooo... you don't want Naruto to be popular? You think that if everyone likes the series it will instantly stop being good?
And again, you don't have to watch it on TV. Buy the DVDs; you get the japanese language tracks, AND the money you spend supports the companies that make anime, helping them make more high quality series.
Edit: And if you're really concerned about fansubbers, there will ALWAYS be someone subbing Naruto. After all, the series is a testament to the power of bittorrent.
I agree with you HimizujinEternia with the respect that I could go out and buy a DVD with the Japenese language on it, and just place on the subtitles (maybe one day I will learn Japanese by watching Naruto like people learn English from Sessimi Street(sp ... to early)) but again, is there one out yet? I mean in stores in North America, if yes then god damn I better get a copy, thats my way of supporting it.
I just don't want to see the show ruined, its good as it is, and I am damn sure the Americans will screw it up like they do 90% of the time with anime (ok, Gundam Wing was decent for its time).
the majority of animes that come to america are considered much worst than its original version from japan. almost everyone has that opinion and they do not want more animes to be ruined this way. there are a number of factors that make the anime lose its "touch" by changing lots of the elements of the anime that american companies do.
there are more ways to support companies than just buying dvds. they have so much merchandise available i dont want to have to waste my money on a dvd. second of all, without downloading the eps i would not be able to obtain screenshots of naruto because i do not have a dvd burner. once again, thats because of a financial issue.
last thing is, dont talk to me like im stupid. im sick and tired of the immature users at gotwoot that think they're always right. this forum is made for people to share their ideas, not to freakin flame on people. dont give me that b.s. about how you're not talking that way or saying "lol...dumbasss". the way you type is the only way of expressing yourself, i cant see your physical emotions because its the freakin internet. next time try not typing like a jackass. "Soooo... you don't want Naruto to be popular? You think that if everyone likes the series it will instantly stop being good?" thats just another way of saying, "soo, you're a dumbass? you think everyone has the same opinion?" THATS HOW IT FREAKIN SOUNDS LIKE SO NEXT TIME THINK BEFORE YOU POST.
My apologies. It was not my intention to offend, but I can see how that might have come about.
naruto WILL eventually be licensed, it WILL be butchered, it WILL be the next DBZ so some people should just stop whinning the fact that they left out some bloody parts in the Anime is prove that its meant for kids so once it gets licensed it will most likely be even more cut up and even more kiddyl like it can't be stopped just enjoy naruto the way you like it I for one hope it gets licensed so i can get the uncut dvd's with japanese audio, i'm not afraid at all of licensing because there will always be a fansub group doing it fuck them kiddies if they run around yelling Shadow Doppelganger Technique i'll be laughing my ass of so hard as long as they bring out an uncut dvd version i don't care at all who licenses it even if it's 4kids
well.. we don't even know it would be on adult swim.. i mean they should at least do that ... but you know how they are... and the prob with american voice actors... they have no emotions... and usually does not fit the character...!!!! i think pioneer/Geneon is does the best dub... but it's still nothing compared to the japanese voice actors
Miaka is right that there is no guarantee that it would go on adult swim (i.e. One Piece on Fox or whatever v.v) and I also agree that a lot of the times american voice actors lack convincing emotions compared to the Japanese voice actors and that the characters and voices hardly fit but is true that Geneon has some decent dubs.
While I agree that many good series have been butchered by bad dubbing and/or editing, I consider every series that gets rights purchased and is released in America a victory for all American Anime fans.
I have many friends that enjoy Anime, but just don't like to read subtitles. A large majority of the public shares this sentiment. Even though listening to bad dubs makes my ears bleed, especially on series that I have watched in the original Japanese dialogue, I appreciate that the series has now opened up to my friends and that I have more people to enjoy the experience with. DVD's has been a saving grace for Anime fans everywhere, as we now almost always recieve the dubbed and the subtitled in one package.
My second point is to point to a reason for the dropping prices that someone else pointed out in this thread. The more Anime gains popularity in the US, the more people will purchase said Anime. This growth of the market is responsible for the drastic drop in prices. When I first began watching anime, a subtitled tape of 2-3 episodes would cost $30-35. Now I can pick up a DVD, with both the subtitled and dubbed versions, with 5 episodes, for $20-25. You can also regularly find deals on boxed sets of entire series.
Adult Swim does not dub Anime, nor does it purchase the rights to do so. They purchase the rights to show Anime that has already been dubbed from companies such as Bandai and ADV. Adult Swim has come to a point where they can show Anime mostly uncut from what the distributors have been released, case in point is the new Ghost in the Shell series. It would be great if they showed Naruto, it would allow people to see the series without a large amount of editing.
Finally, from what I understand fansubbing original purpose was to create a large following of Anime fans in the other countries, and in doing so to encourage companies to purchase the rights to these Anime shows so that they can be enjoyed in these countries. Also, companies generally purchase the rights by seasons, so new episodes that were just released in Japan would not have rights purchased in the US and so fansubbing of these episodes would still be entirely legal. Case in point being the DB GT series, the rights for that series were not purchased until Bandai was well into the Cell saga portion of DBZ.
So in my opinion, Naruto being optioned in the US is a win/win situation and can only help validate the popularity, among fans and businesses, of Anime in the US.
its cool, i over reacted...i wasnt feeling too good so i was a bit grumpy. no hard feelings ^^;Originally posted by: HimizujinEternia
My apologies. It was not my intention to offend, but I can see how that might have come about.
tis alright, Kakfosha, happens to the best of us.
Very good points, Kolat; I had forgotten that there were anime fans who don't like subs. ^^;;
How about you not make a big fuss about it, so no would want to liscence Naruto, and I will keep continue downloading the episodes like a happy otaku.
edit: to the person above, i really don't care if naruto becomes popular, and i really hope i dont see little kids with head protectors shouting kage bunshin no jutsu down the street.
Jing, methinks that's impossible. Naruto is already kinda big here in america. I'm quite certain companies are already interested in it, too. In any case, though, I still think it will be at least a year before Naruto will be picked up, as most channels already have their big show for the fall/spring.
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